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>> that's right. we love being with you. dawn wells, thank you so much. >> what a treat. love this book. >> she's staying for the after the show show. >> we're going to find out what >> have a good weekend. bill: thank you. want to start with a fox news alert. there is a new report claiming intel officials are tracking plots from al qaeda-linked groups inside syria. is the focus on isis leaving the u.s. open to other potential threats? more in a matter of the moment here. the country of france is the first country to officially join the u.s. and launch operations inside of iraq. the french president ordering
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strikes against isis as they release yet another hostage video. i'm bill hemmer, welcome to america's newsroom. martha: this video shows a british journalist alive and being held against his will. he makes a statement in this video against the west but obviously under duress. bill: what do we know about the airstrikes on behalf of the french? >> reporter: president obama said it will be a broad-based coalition to battle iraq and syria. that changed as french airplanes' began striking targets in iraq that gives isis. french governments said they tracked isis in syria and iraq.
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there are 30 countries involved nens is very but few have committed their own resources like the u.s. and france. turkey has backed islamic extremists in syria though publicly these countries say they don't back isis. while this coalition is growing it is far from being unified. bill: what do we know about this video? >> this is a defarture from the previous is very video. the three-minute long video of the british journalist john cantler. at first he introduces himself* calmly. he admits he's doing this as a desperate gamble to save his own
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life. it's the first of several short films where he's going to show the media is dragging people back to the abyss of the middle east. he's trying to blunt the u.s. and public and world opinion against bombing isis. it's shot indoors and not outside and no grusome beat headings, and no threats. just a warning that just like the previous wars in iraq * and afghanistan, this will be a long war and a difficult war and it won't end well for the american and international public. it's not so much a threat against the united states as a warning say doug want to get involved in another war in the middle east. it seems on a softening of their image obviously the threat of isis is growing across the world and more and more governments are taking it serious.
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>> conor powell in jerusalem leading in the our coverage on that. martha: lawmakers approved a plan for the united states to arm and train the moderate syrian rebels. the president plot that vote. it could put more what he nons the hands of dangerous people. how exactly can we know who we'll be arming in syria? >> a legitimate question. we heard lawmakers say arming and equipping syrian rebels is the best of bad options. >> a ma joaferlt democrats and republicans in the house and senate have voted to train and equip the opposition in syria he they can help push bark these terrorists. d push back these terrorists.
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>> reporter: hagel noted isis has global a -- aspirations. some lawmakers expressed concern to kerry that the rebels could afak tack civilians or carry out violence elsewhere. >> i think we have had a bad track record of vetting people in the past. >> reporter: several prominent republicans are warning this could be a long struggle. some are warning it could last 6-10 years. martha. bill: the tally is in and scotland has spoken.
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the vote was a no. that camp winning out by nearly 10%age points. scotland will stay as part of the united kingdom. host of varney and company. surprised by this or not? >> reporter: surprised by the margin of victory. there is a sigh of financial relief. check your 401k, you are going like this no vote. it was a clear victory. that's what david cameron said. he says it's a clear result. it's an independence question for scotland has been settled. there is no currency disruption. europe is less likely to be vulcanized. this no vote is a big financial
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deal. the dow jones will open around 17,300. that's another record high and it's due in part to the settlement of the independence question. if it had gone another way you and i would be talking about a didn't financial story this morning. bill: on fox business, stuart varney. martha: volunteers in africa killed in cold blood for trying to spread ebola awareness in guinea. the bodies were discovered add they were kidnapped by people armed with rocks and knives. the news comes as sierra leone gets ready for a lockdown of their country. the u.s. is sending military in to help. a heartbreaking story in florida. authorities say a man shot and killed his daughter and her 6
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children before turning the weapon on himself. steve harrigan follows this story live for us. any word on what the motivation could possibly have been here? >> the police are baffled by this shooting. it happened outside of gainsville in the tiny town of bell, florida. don spear called police just after 4:00 p.m. he said he had done harm to people and was about to do harm to himself. he shot and killed himself when the deputies arrived. the tiny town is stunned. >> the community will be devastated by this. being a small county we are all devastated. there are some things you can explain and this isn't something i can explain. >> reporter: police say the
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bodies were found all over the property, including that of the youngest victim, alana. he once shot and killed his 8-year-old son in a hunting accident. the two were deer hunting when his rifle went off. bill: there are new warnings isis is not the only terror group plotting attacks against the u.s. and against the west. former cia director james woolsey and who they are watching and who they are hieghtd. could your information be at risk. >> a person of interest in the disappearance of a university of virginia student. what happened to hannah graham. >> you make things good, hannah graham. where are you? we want you back where you belong. we love you more than you know, and he cannot wait to see you
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this has caused. we want to reassure them we'll not be liable for fraudulent charges. >> we hot to be aware the same kind of threat exists. the same idea of a lone wolf or somebody with direct contact to see yotoisis. the administration needs to understand isis is a direct threat to our allies. as a new report in today's wall street journal' claims the u.s. intelligence is tracking multiple threats against western targets inside syria. and it's not isis. joining me is james woolsey. u.s. tracks threats against the wet by an al qaeda affiliate
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inside syria. that's the headline from the "wall street journal." >> someone said president obama remind him of a constitutional school tar trapped in a crowd of thugs. these are the thugs in syria. but other places as well. australia, the possibility austrailians would have seen a number of their citizens beneatd streets. one cannot be satisfied we are following whom we need to follow if we are focusing only on isis. they are one terrible organization. but this is a movement. a worldwide movement of extreme islam, violent jihadis. and we have to focus on that and
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not just on the group of the moment. bill: who wins between the scholar and the thugs? >> we need a lot of of tough scholars if we are going to take on the thugs. when need to, we have to. >> if the issue of syria had not festers for 2 1/2, 3 years, would we still be seeing this threat as it is today? >> it could have gone better and iran is one part of the reason it did not go better because they have been helping the syrians. they have been doing everything they can to extend radical shiia groups and support for them into all parts of the middle east. and i think that president obama in one of his moves did not scare the thugs at all when he decided not to punish assad for
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crossing the red line and using chemical weapons against his own people. that helped move along the syrian and islamist position in the middle east, a very great deal. bill: james clapper was speaking. he mentioned now two new groups to keep an eye on. one is called the neusr sarks front. he has significant concerns about this group. there is another group known as korisan. they believe they have a homeland in northern afghanistan and the eastern part of iran. what clapper talked about is this group has shown an affinity for bomb plots and it's the
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first time anyone of high-ranging intelligence has admitted this group exists. and that on its face should scare a lot of people. it should rally us to realize that just because the president doesn't want to talk about a war doesn't known we are not in one. we are in one, a worldwide one. the administration goes to strength lengths not to say that and not to have the narrative get out of contractual. to hell with the narrative. we have to level with one another about what's going on and we are in a war. pap worldwide war and it's going get worse. we need to rally for it. spend to be able to feet up it effectively. train friends and allies. can give people hop deserve it and are trying to help us weapons and not just night vision goggles. we have got a lot of things we need to do. >> reporter: these groups are
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competing for attention. that's what isis is doing with these beheading. final question, based on what congress has passed with regard to syria, what does the language of that bill mean that the u.s. will do inside of syria to confront the groups that we just mentioned here? >> it's step in the right direction but it's a small one. it on lasts as long as the continuing resolution. it was a good vote and i'm glad congress passed it. but this is a bare, bare beginning. >> sir, thank you for your time and we'll speak again. james woolsey, former cia director in washington. martha: intense moment high in the sky after smoke filled the cabin on a jetblue flight. we'll tell you what happened, plus this.
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no one else was on the bus at the time. the deliveries okay. martha: investigators in virginia are looking for a person of interest in the case of missing 18-year-old uva student hannah graham. police have released a new surveillance video that shows hannah walking through a shopping mall the night that she disappeared. >> it appeared as though she was being followed by a male subject. interestingly enough that subject came into the police station last night and said yes, i was. and i saw her meet up with an african-american male. it appeared as though they knew each other and they began to talk and i didn't pay any attention anymore and i went about my way. martha: what do police know about her whereabouts that night? >> reporter: the time line is important. we'll pick it up at midnight a
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mile and a half from here when hannah graham left an apartment complex. she made her way through the area. part of it is well lit. part of it had parties and part of it is dimly lit. then she ends up on this pedestrian mall, the main street in charlottesville, virginia. the last time she was seen was near a julie store walk at 1 time. it was a tape in that mall area who said there was a black male who came up to hannah. a black male with a goatee, in his late 20s or early 30s wearing a white t-shirt. there are reports he put his arm around hannah and they made their way off. police are trying to canvas
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other businesses to see if there are cameras that caught these two after that 1:00 a.m. time stamp. the last time stamp was 1:20 in the morning when she sent a text message to a friend and said "i am lost." at that point she vanishes. martha: awful. her parents must be beside herself. we heard there was a vigil last night for lana. >> reporter: this is a close-knit community. the town of charlottesville, she was a sophomore at the university of virginia and obviously knew a lot of people. last night was scene overflow crowd for that vigil for her in trying to bring her home. there is some history here with women missing in this area. five women in the past five years are what they call the
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highway 29 corridor near charlottesville. only one of those women have been found. she was found dead. her murder is unsolved and for the hannah graham search the police have been canvassing some areas. we saw bloodhounds and helicopters out. then tomorrow there will be a massive community search. they are signing up everyone and anyone who can walk through dense virginia countryside and farm told see if they can find any more clues in her disappearance. bill: the best to the family. the anxiety must be enormous. make way for alibaba. we'll tell you what that's all about. is there an arab contingent' in
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the night against isis? >> i will let the individual members of the coalition announce. >> there will be no commitment from that country. i'll better penny. it's not going to happen and the whole world knows it. ows a realy for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.
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today when it begins trading it might be the unbless dented amount of buzz around it. just the growth of this stock the past year has been phenomenal in asia. they are bringing that to the united states to raise even more money and alibaba is all the talk of wall street now open for trading. martha: president obama signs off on a mission to train and arm the rebels in syria. a growing coalition including the arab state is something shepard smith bet the white house would never happen. no one from saudi arabia, no one from turkey. to suggest these people with great respect from syria who are not organized and the pentagon says will take hah year to
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train. and the iraqi army who has already fold and given away the weapons is going to join us to fight isis seems a fantasy. >> these people are fighting for their own country. the president decided it's not best for american siewrlt to have combat forces on the ground in iraq and syria. martha: retired general jack keane is a fox news analyst. you made it clear over the past 24-48 hours, that as you see things shaping up, you are very concerned this cannot work. >> we got to real challenges here. clearly we plan a strong handle with the use of air power. the fact of the matter is we use precision-guide munitions. we have great' pilots and great
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skill and we'll have great impact as long as the targets are available for us. but our ground offensive campaign is a weak target. but more robustly than the president's plan playing weak handle in iraq as shepard smith identified with. the u.s. military wants to strengthen that handle with controllers and advisers. special-ops taking down isis leadership and a backup plan if that fails with u.s. combat brigades. so we have got to strengthen that weak handle on the ground which is the essence of this problem. martha: the president declared a goal to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. the pentagon says this is what we need to do that. if you want to do that. if you want to accomplish that goal, we say this is what we need. so they give this to the
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president and the president says no. sorry, that's not going to work. i'm only gisk you airstrikes and training of forces on the ground. it may take one to two to three or four years to train. >> that's pattern we have had with this president since 2009. he has rejected every force-level plan. he's never ever accepted a single one. every time he's limited our military options to be able to accomplish the mission. the other spot there talking about the coalition partners. one of the elephants in the room. i don't want to make excuses for the arab muslim world not getting into this fight. but one of the problems they do have. they all have radical islamic movements in their country trying to push them out of power. nothing on the scale of isis but nonetheless a movement.
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if they are going to commit to this they know they will an tag niets the movement and detroit. they want us to be serious about it. er in not certain to this day despite the president's speech and the followup comments by secretary kerry and secretary hagel. they are not convinced the president is serious about seeing this through to the end. so what is one of the problems we have with them? i think this will take the president's personal leadership despite secretary kerry and general allen and all the skills and reputation they have. the president has to get in this case with coalition partners if we are going get them in this fight in any realistic way. >> reporter: the administration looks at the pentagon's plan and says that's nice. that's what you need. weep believe this can be don't way we planned it with these airstrikes and training these forces on the ground. not to mention the fact they previously said these forces
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were untrainable and it wouldn't work. it does lead to the inescapable conclusion that the will to win may not be there. >> i think that's true. we said that the night the president made his comments. one of the concerns we have always had is his decisiveness and commit to the see the mission through to the end. and that means not just providing the leadership which we desperately need. but also it means giving the military and others the resources they need to do the job. you have got to give them the resources. in this case he's not doing that. martha: let's throints former ci tax directo director woolsey. >> this is a worldwide movement of extreme muslim jihadis.
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we have to focus on that and not just the group of the moment. martha: he says we are in what he sees as a worldwide war and we need to accept that. now i understand that's of the countries we would like to get on board have a lot of conflicted interests within them. and it makes it difficult for them to be very open about their backing of us. so is there anyway around that for them? >> first of all, director woolsey knows what he's talking about here, and you and i had discussions on this as well. this is radical islam. it's a worldwide movement focused primarily in the middle east. we have never had a comprehensive strategy to deal with it. president obama doesn't have one and this president doesn't have one. he won't even define it as a radical islamic movement. he walks away as relationship being part of their core belief system. we have a model how to deal with
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this. the fact of the mother is we were successful dealing with communist ideology. we were successful because we formed alineses with countries who had vested interests in nato. we can do the same thing here. but it takes leadership to do that and put that military alliance together. share training and telling, work towards common objectives. this can be done. if we don't do something like that we'll eventually get the ground plan right, we'll eventually defeat them but somebody else is going to pop up. so we have to have a much larger strategy to cope with this reality with we have radical islam. martha: big decisions to be made and leadership needed. general jack keane. always good to see you. >> good talking to you, martha, as always.
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bill: now this versus dpaiption after allegations of voter registration fraud by georgia democrats linked to senate candidate michelle nunn. >> we know the scandal continues to expand as of this morning 14 counties in georgia now voicing complaints about potential voter registration fraud ahead of the mid-term elections. georgia's secretary of state held a hearing at which his office laid out what the investigation found so far. 28 confirmed cases of proud including foreigned signatures on voter registration applications and three canvassing sheets. those are felonies under georgia law. 26 other cases are suspicious. in the cross-hairs the new georgia prong led by state representative stacy abrams, a close confidante of michelle
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nun. the goal is to register 100,000 minority voters. they call this investigation a witch hunt to silence people who will by and large vote democrat. >> you don't have to wear a hood or be a member of the klu klux klan to be engaged in voter suppression. reporter: he says he's not engaged in voter suppression, simply doing his job to unhold the integrity of the voter process. >> anybody that knows me knows i'm not a racist and some of the thing they said and accused me of are flat wrong. reporter: kemp sent and subpoena to the georgia project requesting all communications related to the registration drive.
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democrats hold the lead. you are at 53 democrats. plus two independents. republicans to get that 51-seat majority need to pick up a seat. if you put the real clear politicsage for all the polls it's still too close to call in colorado. but something is moving. what do you think it is? >> i think a lot of it is cory gardner is a good candidate. that's where you will see the difference in a lot of these races that are contests. i think those two candidates you will see break away more than others. republicans on the ground in colorado are doing good work in the governor's race as well. he's seen a big swing, too.
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there is a lot of good work on the ground and those candidates are solid. >> what do you see, juan? >> the pole would indicate it's an outliar. as you point out. you "the dallas buyer.it would s too close to call. it depends if you are going door to door, all of that is at place. i agree cory gardner is a good candidate. but it boils down to turnout. i believe a, registered voters.
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then you get a situation where the democrat mark pryor is up. if it's likely voters. republicans are far more energetic about this mid-term election. if they are likely voters tom cotten is up. bill: a couple months ago colorado was in the this category. was was not there a couple months ago. in iowa it's neck and neck. you saw what the "new york times" did two days ago. on this poll, terrorism, the economy, and foreign policy. look at the edge that voters give republicans on all three topics. isn't that what's moving now, mk? >> that's the thing.
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a couple weeks ago you saw the state polls. republicans getting worried they weren't moving with snagsal sent i am and again you will see that split with north carolina where the candidates on the opposing side don't shine as much. but those guys are perfectly fine candidates. if things are going well in purple iowa they will go well for the gop as well. >> i think one of the keys is when you look at these numbers remember in iowa joni ernst is coming back to ground. when i talk to democrats about that. thee made the pawk faux pas.
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as the congress goes back to the campaign trail what were you see is more of an emphasis on things like the minimum wage which is what the senate democrats have been pushing, a pair chance. and issues like whether you would support an increase in minimum wage. but go about investing in america. this is what the democrats want. this is where you can paint a joni ernst as being more extreme. bill: keep an eye on this national security question and what we are watching. >> i think that's the october surprise. >> i think how we deal with the war. >> cory gardner be jt general dper gap is points. that's a the mark of a good candidate closing that gap. martha: this is a big question where this war or battle or terrorism offensive is
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showing you all week in northern california after the flames doubled in size overnight. 3,000 people to have to leave their homes. meanwhile the police arrested 37-year-old wayne huntsman. he is due in court on arson charges. adam housley is live from california. what's the latest on these fires? it's unbelievable. >> reporter: there is a glimmer of food news. it's just over 76,000 acres that are burned here. 10% containment. that's better than the two previous nights when the fire doubled both nights in size. no one knows what the winds may or may not do this evening and afternoon. some of those homes are here in california to stop off highway 50. right now up in this area for
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fire crews one of the big thing everyone is having to deal with is the smoke. thick smoke these firefighters are fighting it makes it even more difficult. because this fire is burning in such difficult terrain, the resilience and alliance is on air attacks. they are talking about going after this fire from above. >> we dropped over 450,000 gallons of retardant on this fire. it's large fire burning extremely in rough terrain. reporter: we have been told the suspect, wayne allen huntsman will be arraigned today. he will be charged with arson and he's being held on $10 million bail. martha: adam, thank you very much. bill: the french launched airstrikes today taking on isis targets in iraq. is the white house's effort to
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>> french warplanes launching airstrikes joining american fighter jets for the first time in the battle against isis. welcome, everybody, a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." bill: friends become in the first nation to join the american air campaign. it is in northern iraq overnight killing dozens of militants there. a region of iraqi and kurdish forces are in a fierce battle for control with isis. chief white house correspondent ed henry. is the white house having success lining up allies or is this a struggle this morning? >> it is very much a mixed bag. the last time the president came
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out, rare to do that late in the evening. wanted some progress starting with how france's joining these airstrikes inside iraq. when you look at the fine print, iraq will not do the airstrikes in syria. which is where they say two-thirds of the militants are there in syria. maybe not where we need it most. there are now more than 40 nations that have joined the international coalition to defeat and destroy isis but a lot of those allies not giving direct military aid like france is. he will be meeting with allies in the united nations meeting. a lot of pressure to get this. bill: he was touting late last night the senate vote. the white house pretty much got what they wanted.
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in reality, how close are those rebels taking the fight to isis? >> a long time. this morning mike rogers said he suspects it could be four to five months from now because of what congress did last night. they do get some credit for that, but under best case can get the first unit of syrian rebels going and general martin dempsey will say it will take up to a year to get the syrian rebels going to be a fighting force. a year from now. even under the best case, 5000 moderate rebels and ground troops in syria. according to the cia, 31,000 or so isis militants, do the math. bill: thank you. martha: as a white house gathers support to fight isis, growing concerns from political leaders
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they could be missing the point and overlooking the threat of attacks here on the homeland. fox news politics editor joins us now. this is a big issue and there is definitely a test on the part of the administration to downplay any threats we face from this group here at home. >> i would even suggest it is the issue. this is especially true as the united states begins or has gotten play further point of extracting his own national resources to fuel their own energy needs the number one people think about is how do we keep the problems of that region from visiting us here and killing americans? that is what americans tards the east and what the discussion in washington has been about has been terribly far removed from those concerns, a discussion that relates to which rebels to arm, how to arm them, what are
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the rules of engagement, how will this work, how will that work. what voters want to know is are you willing to do anything to protect the homeland and make sure americans are safe where we are? martha: you think of david cameron, his focus was primarily on the homeland. these are the steps you have to take, poland peoples passports but this is a statement that was made shortly by josh earnest. take a listen to this. >> we are concerned about the threat posed by isil, but by the intelligence community there currently is not an active plot underway to attack on the u.s. homeland. martha: that is a fine line. you can say we do not know of any active plots to attack the homeland but at the same time people here the attempt made in australia and it sends chills up their spine.
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why not? why not some upstart here at home, do something like this. >> how long did it take them to find out a plan as blunt or stupid as what they are accused of. not very long. how long did it take people in boston to strike terror into the hearts of every american with the bombing at the marathon? not very long. the problem is in a free society we are vulnerable and we live with that and when we hear about what has gone on and continues to go on in minnesota, in the minneapolis metro area with people who have gone to fight with isis and who have gone over and come back and concerns of the border and americans are thinking you have to protect us. one thing they did very well was explain why it was important to fight overseas to protect americans at home. he made that part of the
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discussion. take the fight to them. trainees as two concerns. martha: what we have heard from law-enforcement officials is the discussion continues to be abysmal. that is what you need to break down these kind of plots, no? >> not only that, but a three-year plan to degrade and ultimately destroy isys, five year plan for region, what about syria. who knows what is happening in libya now where the president first took a long-term intervention and strategy that the united states eventually mandated, who knows what is going on over there. as republicans tell the line between libertarianism and try to figure out what they're doing ahead of election season, that doesn't matter to voters at
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home. are we safe and can we keep it that way? martha: if you see something, say something. it has become fairly successful but is not getting a lot of attention in a whole lot of places. thank you very much. bill: breaking news on scotland, it has voted and the verdict is no, it will not break away from the uk after 35-45% margin after historic referendum. saying the scots made the right decision. decision. >> scotland voted for a stronger scottish parliament backed by the strength and security of the united kingdom, and i want to congratulate the no caps and for that for some people our nations really are better together. and i want to pay tribute to yes scotland for a well fought campaign and to say to all those
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who did vote for independence, we hear you. bill: amy kellogg in scotland again this morning for us. what are people saying today, amy? >> bill, think it is fair to say there is something of a consensus between the ayes and the nos, and that it energized and engaged the electorate. it was a tough decision for many people to make. the prospect of independence for a very proud nation, a rich history and culture was incredibly seductive but people understood it was a fantastic risk, and risk can often be great. no pain, no gain. often what is clear is the scots felt they were better off having britain behind them. the vote was open to 16 and 17-year-olds. they were among the most enthusiastic voters.
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here is what they had to say about the chance to get to vote and the outcome. >> maybe we will start more general elections in the future, get a lot more younger people. >> although it sets a point we know we got the democracies we wanted and we only hope westminster will deliver the promises they delivered in the campaign. >> just as part of a union and makes us stronger. >> 85% voter turnout was unprecedented and it goes to show people feel there is something really at stake and worth voting for, they will get himself out to the ballot box. bill: a lot of folks are holding their breath over that one. live in scotland. martha: as the nfl deals with more allegations of violence, and from its players, a new poll shows whether any of them will
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stop anybody from watching football on sunday. bill: and a volcano on the fly an island its top and now even more homes are threatened. >> president obama saying troops on the ground in iraq are not on the table. they say that is what may be necessary. the pentagon fighting this with one arm tied behind its back? >> i don't think we could reassure the enemy in advance. i'm not saying we have to commit them, but don't pull it off the table. guys! you're not gonna believe this!
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bill: double dose of tropical weather hitting texas with severe weather. gliding with providence from hurricane odile producing heavy downpour in areas that were already drenched. traffic accidents weaving people stranded in houston causing widespread outages in boston, texas. >> military leaders, mr. chairman, are incomplete agreement with every component of the president's strategy and we strongly believe it offers the best opportunity to degrade and destroy isil p at martha: that was chuck hagel testified white house and pentagon all on the same page when it comes to
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fighting isis terrace after officials claim the president may need american troops to actually defeat isis including his own chairman of joint chief of staff beating preserve the request for them. he says he might have to request them. chairman of the house foreign affairs committee joint be now. welcome, good to have you here today. so, one day chuck hagel was questioning certain aspects of how all of this was going to go, the next day make it very clear the administration will ease everybody on the same page. do you believe that? >> imagine if you think about the fact there is 190,000 kurds you want to be arming and have yet to do so because the president wants to play baghdad's game or military have asked for seven months, the
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embassy asked for this, asked for airstrikes against isil and the president vetoed the operation. we had 116,000 airstrikes against saddam hussein when he invaded kuwait in the first goal for and only 176 airstrikes to date that have been approved or you push the idea two years ago to arm the free syrian army as a general put it only to be told by the president know. the pentagon has to be tremendously frustrated right now, and it is going to depend now on congress saying you are not going to do it, there are 100,000 men and women fighting isil without adequate equipment. we will have to go around the president on this and directly arm them. martha: how are you going to do that and can you do that? >> legislatively. and these airstrikes that we
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have had when we lost the opportunity to take them out on the open desert going from town to town to town seizing arms, seizing money in the central bank, it has been an absolute series of mishaps with the president himself stopping the steps necessary. we had kurds and arabs on the ground but the foreign minister sat in my office not three or four weeks ago and told me again listen, we cannot wait for baghdad to allow us to have the artillery, the long-range mortars, antitank missiles we need to defeat them on the ground. that's us do our job. the president needs to get out of the way in terms of a loan the types of decisive actions that need to be taken in terms of the air campaign and in terms
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of arming those kurds and arabs that want to do the fighting. bill: the president has done this in the opposite way the previous president bush did, and a lot of people didn't agree with the way he ran the iraq war but he said he would be dictated on with the general told them they needed to win, presenting the goal of what needed to happen and tell them what he needed to carry out. we are seeing a reverse sort of situation here, but you have said you would not put any boots on the ground and we heard the chairman say he would need to request that at some point. do you stand by that? >> if you do not allow the kurds to do the fighting, what is our military going to say? if you don't give them the equipment to defeat isil or veto the robust efforts, what options do you leave? so my point is if we want to do
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this right, the right way to do it is with kind of air power we used in the first gulf war that destroyed 42 divisions, 3200 tanks and 85% of their armored personnel carriers. with that kind of an air campaign and the kind of campaign on the ground that unleashes the kurdish and arab forces fighting isil. martha: who does the president agree with in terms of his own military campaign and if he wants to deal with airstrikes, why not unleash the kind of a volume that you are talking about? >> this is the great question because we know to a half years ago to go back to his entire defense staff including the cia director, including centur centf defense, secretary of state at the time all came to him and said look, you've got those will
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do the fighting, arm them now, they are fighting not just groups like al qaeda, but carrying out the battle against assad. the president turned down his own national security team. what i do know is when we press about keeping isis from the air when they were easy targets before they took all of these assets and before they took the oil well and before they grabbed a hold of the cash from all of these banks city by city, that was the time to show the world what we could do to turn them back. now we have a second opportunity, but only if we actually listened to those in the region like the kurds who were experienced at fighting terrorists, jihadist like this isil group. if the president doesn't listen to them and doesn't allow direct
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the armaments, we can only imagine the frustration over the pentagon. martha: it sounds like he got a lot of frustration on the hill. thank you very much. bill: the fbi still in a manhunt for the trooper in pennsylvania. why this suspect is so hard to catch. martha: these lines are stretching from blocks outside of apple stores to get their hands on the latest must-have gadget. >> we have been here since the first of september. it was crazy, for sure. so many people were nice to us, so many people were mean to us, just a crazy run.
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bill: the man police say kill the penciling estate trooper still remains on the run today. the fbi is adding the elusive fugitive to the top 10 most wanted list as a manhunt intensifies by day. rick leventhal, good morning. the seventh day of this manhunt, why is this suspect so hard to catch? >> he's a survivalist and picked a remote area for the outing. they are closing in on suspected killer, but you look at this area there searching miles and miles of thick woods and rugged terrain, a challenging environment. we are on white deer lake. investigators have been scouring the woods for six days using search dogs and aerial assets searching for survivalist added to the fbi top 10 most wanted
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list for $75,000 bounty on his head. >> systematically taking away any opportunities for him for cover, concealment in terms of cabins, campsites, those kind of things. i do believe probably desperate, cold at night. trying to survive out there, and so that creates difficult circumstances for them to live in. >> this is one of hundreds of homes and hunting cabins that have to be searched very carefully because they are considered heavily armed and very, very dangerous. the other reason why two school districts shut down again today, bill. bill: what are the folks in the area saying about that? >> a lot of folks are on high alert and very concerned, we saw evidence of that last night for the heightened state of alert in this area with dozens of police cars heading toward town very close to us after reports of shots fired fair.
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roads were blocked, and some other house got to a temporary shelter set up, but it turned out to be a false alarm. little comfort to be slain trooper who was laid to rest in scranton yesterday after thousands of officers and others. investors believe he is hiding somewhere in these woods and they are confident they will find him perhaps sooner rather than later. >> thank you, rick leventhal. martha: so are we making the same mistake in iraq that we made in vietnam? what the director of national intelligence now has to say about underestimating the enemies. bill: at a pickup truck smash into a store window, why police believe that is no accident. >> for something like this to happen so close to home, they
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bill: the director of national intelligence comparing the battle against isis to the mistakes we have made decades ago in vietnam. we underestimated the vietcong and vietnamese and overestimate did the will of south vietnamese. in this case we underestimated isil and overestimated the fighting capability of the iraqi army. i didn't see the collapse of the security force in the north coming. mike baker, former cia covert operations officer, global intelligence and security firm. good morning to you, welcome back here. i don't think you would take exception to the comments. the question is what to do about it now. what did you think of his remarks? >> i don't necessarily disagree
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that some people, certainly i think the white house either underestimates or failed to focus on because it wasn't part of their top priority list failed to focus on the islamic state. it is navelgazing. i think in a sense he is trying to put all this into context at this point. we were getting warnings on the rise, the motivations of the islamic state for quite some time for military intelligence elements, so that shouldn't have been a surprise. as far as assessment of the iraqi army, there was always a happy talk anytime the cameras turned on people in the military or government would talk about how capable the iraq he army is good when they turned off, i know for a fact the conversations over the years people were always concerned
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about the capabilities long-term of the iraqi army like we are with afghanistan. bill: let's get to the intelligence now and i want to circle back to the military on this. former cia director last hour essentially telling the administration to wake up and smell the coffee. is now the time? >> just because the president doesn't want to talk about a war doesn't mean we are not in war. we are in one. the administration goes to great lengths not to say that and not to have the narrative get out of control. the hell with narrative, we have to level with one another about what is going on, and we're in a worldwide war. and it is going to get worse. bill: do you think that is now or not? >> it is a shame the former director has to state the obvious. he is absolutely correct.
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it was just a few days ago john kerry made that od comment about how the tortured debate over the terminology of this whole thing. no, it's not. they understand we are in a war, the white house has a terminology. this has been going on for years, and i think part of the problem is now with the headlines of the islamic state as they have been gaining territory, that has focused us again from a period of time where we have just become fatigued and weary about the whole thing, so now it is almost like we have had our heads snapped back to reality because of what has happened with the islamic state but all of these threats, it is all coming from extremism, jihadist. we have to be pragmatic about it.
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bill: and that is his intention, trying to figure out a way to find out how you go after them and do it effectively. at the same time from a military standpoint we had four significant military leaders in one week, maybe over 48 hours, saying you can't take your options off the table. here is the man known as mad dog on that. >> once you go into it, you have to tell your adversary in advance what you are not going to do. we have the most skillful, the fiercest and certainly the most ethical ground forces in the world and i don't think we should reassure the enemy in advance. bill: why are they speaking in lockstep? from a strategic standpoint that is what you want, all these options on the table which include the possibility of maybe
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a fighting force on the ground, but they all come out at the same time and these guys probably tell you some of them have been given the back of the hand the last couple of years and their advice has been ignored and not taken up. is it possible this is their way to say should have listened? >> trying to walk the dog back from the white house spending a great deal of time saying what they won't do. when you are engaged in the conflict or beginning a war against islamic state or however you want to refer to it, there is no tactical advantage to say what you are not going to do. we will not do the following. just say look, we have a serious threat, national security, we will take whatever measures are necessary and just get on with it. trying to say if nobody else is going to put boots on the ground, somebody has to put boots on the ground, if that is
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not going to happen from our partners, what they're trying to do is set the table to say we may have to do do it because airstrikes alone in concert with army and trading some mess the syrian opposition, we still don't have clarity, that is a containment exercise, that is not defeating islamic state. somebody has to commit boots on the ground to accomplish the objective. bill: that is a great point. that is where the rubber hits the road. you can get him on the run but at some point they will stop and big in. thank you for your time. >> appreciate it. martha: the democrats focusing on women's issues as republicans gained ground with female voters in key races. president obama hitting the list at the dnc women's leadership forum.
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james rosen live in washington. despite president joe biden offered a strong defensively and battle the democratic party chair, the congresswoman. >> good morning. no one better to defend president obama in soundbite form. likening him to his little sister adding as indicated a little sister listens. this conference of some backstage maneuvering against the dissatisfaction ultimately to the obama white house and the clinton camp, the party chair for her part defended the democratic party. >> and republicans in congress failed to act, president obama has signed an executive order raising the minimum wage for workers to issue a presidential memorandum to encourage executive departments and agencies to improve workplace flexibly and worklife program.
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>> hillary clinton will be speaking out, a form she cofounded with tipper gore and little after noon eastern time. >> when president obama won his reelection, but how are women trending now? >> in some surprising ways it bears remembering women went republican in 2010 since the first time the exit polling began and in key races we see some interesting trends. for example in republican senator mitch mcconnell battle for reelection in kentucky we find he has a female opponent, yet a poll conducted late last month by two newspapers and tv news stations show women voters evenly split between the candidates. in the iowa senate race, a survey conducted within just the last week finds women voters
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just outside the margin of error opting for the democrat, but male voters favoring ernst by double digits. in fact women voters have outnumbered male voters in presidential elections for a few decades now, martha. martha: thank you very much. >> with scandals rocking nfl, five players on the microscope for various criminal allegations, but new polling numbers show what the fans think about the game and all of this. and then there is this. >> just normal. >> all right. martha: the first person in one major city to get their hands on the iphone and left speechless. went from intense joy to intense sadness in one moment.
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bill: video capturing smash and grab robbery. back snapped to the robbery of an xm gas station houston knocking over shelves and leaving a giant mess. nobody was injured but listen to how they saw it. >> i was very concerned about the clerk when i saw the story only thing i could say was wow. >> unfortunately more and more criminals are becoming more and more desperate. bill: the suspect did not take a thing. police believe they were going after the atm which is still in the store and still intact. martha: brand new polls show football fans are not really
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phased by all of these nfl scandals. 86% of fans say these scandals have not stop them from watching the game with a small number, 11%, say they are now less likely to watch. a political editor and syndicated talkshow host, both fox news contributors. is this surprising to you? >> not really, martha. i did a little bit on my couch last night sitting there thinking all right, it is thursday night, espn has college games, and is up watching the college game because it was a better matchup and i am more of a college fan personally but i had a moment of wondering where my choic choices be impacted bye ugliness the last few weeks and if i have to be honest with my myself, answer is no. i disapprove of the way the league has handled this stuff,
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but that does not impact or alter my consumption choices watching the games at least not yet. martha: take a look at the national paul of adults, not specifically football fans, the numbers are surprisingly the same. it hasn't changed, 85% say none of this impacts their feeling of affection or interest in the nfl at all. what do you think of it? >> it is sad these numbers show this, although i am not surprised but i am very saddened by this. this is a problem not just in the nfl, we look at the statistics with domestic violence, every nine seconds somebody is a victim of brutality, of abuse. the problem is deep-rooted, we are enabling this behavior and saying we give you a passing
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these numbers don't come down. and charge of what they're watching and buying with respect to the behavior of individuals. not just a man who slapped his now wife, punched her in the face, a man indicted for abusing a child, where is our moral compass? >> i just have to say i don't think it is fair, of course i don't condone domestic violence, i don't think there is a straight line to say i dislike nfl violence and stuff happening in people's homes and saying if you still watch the games you are somehow supporting crimes. i don't think that is fair and i think most americans, vast majority of americans disagree with that sort of assertion that you just made. martha: i am cynical but look at this, see what the advertisers have done, some made it big fuss but haven't gone anywhere. they want the nfl to be more responsible about this, this
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herky-jerky motion on the part of the nfl. you will be out for this many games and i think people look at it and realize, leslie, they are testing what they see, will it or will it not make a difference in our bottom line? $25 billion by 2027 and as the numbers go, they want to see if this will impact it. >> i agree with you 100%. there is outrage and then it goes more and they raise the bar or they change the bar to the level of tolerance with regard to this based on public reaction but when they don't see ticket sales go down or sponsors pull out or the dollar stop flowing in, they will not do a darn thing about it and they know it will lead the front page regarding the news.
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and it is not like the guys i am picking on. i'm more surprised at the women supporting rice jerseys. martha: i'm not saying you or anybody out there is supporting or condoning violence. martha: i don't understand that, don't understand any woman wearing a rice jersey. did they not watch what he did to his wife in the elevator? i worry this 85% number reflects many americans for safe this stuff happens. i am okay with it. >> what is interesting is men are more likely to disapprove of the nfl handling of this than women. martha: thank you. bill: he will be interested to see how the leadership goes. the question for you, america,
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have been lined up since wednesday afternoon. we talked to the first guy in line at 6:00 and says he has been lined up since wednesday at 2:00 p.m., he says he is willing to do it all over again when they release the watch. the line isn't getting any shorter because people keep getting in line without any sort of a guarantee as to whether or not they're actually going to get a phone. apple has not told us how many phones they have and they have not told us how many phones have left so no guarantee if any of these people left in line will be getting a phone. people who have been way far back are just making their way up front they want their phone so there is no die down of excitement. the line has actually been really cool, no fight, no problems. we will send it back to you in
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new york. things are going well in chicago. bill: thank you. >> you cannot buy anything in the store. i hope to have it. possibly one of the first people in the world to get their hands on the new iphone, you are so nervous. watch. >> just the normal iphone 6. martha: did it break for real? possibly one of the first people to handle the smart phone is the first one to drop it. it delivered the promise of added durability. bill: they said the class had improved.
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martha: and over the weekend as well. have a great one, everybody. "happening now" starts right now. we'll see you back here monday. ♪ ♪ jon: the war with isis ramping up from syria to france. even as congress approves money for a new part of the president's plan to fight the terrorists. good morning on this friday, welcome to "happening now," i'm jon scott. heather: and i'm heather childers in for jenna lee, nice to be here. jon: good to have you here. heather: isis taking control of more than a dozen kurdish villages in northern syria as we await word that president obama has signed that legislation to arm moderate syrian rebels against isis. and now france in the battle, launching its first airstrikes in iraq. jon: plus isis posts yet another video of what appears to be another hostage, a british journalist the terror is are using as a propaganda mouthpiece. copp nor powell has the latest -- conor powell has the latest for us. >> this
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