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teenager while police say they are keeping an eye on a man who was with her the night she vanished. we'll have a live report on that. america news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. the wife of a british aid worker is pleading with isis to spare his life after executing three western hostages. the islamic state has said that allan henning is next. this as clashes break out on the border of syria and turkey as refugees run from an isis advance there. >> reporter: allan henning was working as a british taxi driver when he decided along with another group of volunteers to try to help refugees in syria by bringing relief supplies across the border and humanitarian aid. that's when he was taken by isis

militan militants. now as you mentioned, isis is threatening to kill henning like another british aid worker, and then of course those two american journalists, despite flees fr pleas from henning's wife calls him a peaceful man. a man with jihadist ties is calling for his relief. this as the situation along the turkish and syrian border is becoming increasingly tense as more now than 70,000 syrian kurds have flooded into turkey in the last 24 hours. and today, turk irk police clashed with apparently both refugees trying to push their way across the border and kurdish fighters who have been battling isis and are trying to get back into turkey. doug, turkey has been helping with humanitarian aid but so

far, turkish officials have not been involved in the fight against isis if any military engagement or action. we're waiting to see if that changes, this as the situation becomes increasingly more tense along the turkey an syria border. >> thank you from our jerusalem bureau. mark dempsey says arab countries need to take a more direct role in the fight against isis. his comments come as the president tries to build an international coalition to fight the islamic state. this week congress backed the plez's plan to back syrian rebels. will that strategy work? mark kirk from illinois voted to approve the president's request. senator, good to see you. will this strategy work in your opinion? >> i hope it will work. i think if we use the kurdish army and the iraqi army as the board air controllers for u.s. air power, we have a chance of really succeeding here.

increasing a very rapid cycle of destruction of having them identify between friend and foe and having us pick our targets pretty quickly. >> you have said in the past that an effective strategy would use our intelligence community to identify the moderate syrian rebels that we can work with. but oftentimes the flow of fighters in that region -- and history has told us that -- is that moderates tend to migrate to the extreel. extreme. in fact, i recall interviewing dennis kucinich on this program not too long ago. he said the only moderates in that part of the world are those who don't have weapons. your thoughts. >> i would say for $80 billion a year, which is what the intelligence community costs us, they ought to be able to distinguish between friend and foe in the syrian opposition. >> what do you say as to the apparent conflict that seems to be very, very apparent between our leading generals, both retired and active duty, and the president of the united states? >> right now i have a lot of

confidence in jowith john being president obama. john was a top deputy, david petraeus who also beat this same isis team in the same field in the same game. with john alan, top lieutenant of david petraeus, president obama has, by far, the best advisor at his hand, somebody who can rely on that petraeus philosophy to win and beat an insurgency just how we did in iraq. >> you have also said that you recommend not going in to syria. why not? >> for syria, i've been very worried about the very heavy air defense environment they have. if you send nato air crews over syria, you should expect to take losses. >> so it seems to me that you're projecting a containment policy. because if you can't go into

syria, you can't defeat isis, can you? >> the strategy should be to train some iraqis an some kurds to be what the army would call forward air controllers to designate targets for our air force where we act as the air force for the iraqis and the kurds. the u.s. air force is so good at destroying things and very quickly, that gives a very powerful edge to the kurds and iraqis. as long as we have trained forward air controllers, someone who can identify the targets and we call down destruction on the right targets very quickly. >> there's been so much talk recently about the threat of isis not only in that part of the world and to europe, but here to the homeland. do you think it is an imminent threat here to the united states? >> i do. we saw a ragtag bunch of rebels under osama bin laden at tarnak farms in southern afghanistan be able to plot and effectively kill 3,000 americans on september 11th.

when we see organized groups who demonstrate a will to attack the united states, we should hit them first and make sure that we never see another 9/11 again. >> i want to ask you one more question before we let you go. some apparent breaking news coming to us from our middle east expert who will be here momentarily. he's reporting that pro-iranian forces have entered yemen's capital of sanaa and have seized many government buildings. what do you make of that? >> that's a pretty big development which also could help a danger to saudi arabia. that means you have iranian operatives right on the rairani peninsula taking a key center of gravity there in the context. if sanaa has fallen to the iranians, that represents a real clear and present danger to saudi arabia. >> and the broader picture? >> the broader picture is iran is really on a rot here especially with this announcement the administration may sign an iranian deal that

allows the iranians to simply disconnect their cascades, a deal which we should not sign, which doesn't really pass the laugh test in the senate. >> right. right. senator mark kirk, always appreciate your perspective. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> i am very concerned. we still have al qaeda in the iranian peninsula. we have this new group you mention mentioned. >> we can't take our eye off the ball because al qaeda, the al nusra franchise in syria poses more of a threat to our homeland than isis at the present. >> representatives peter king and adam schiff speaking out on fox news sunday today about the multiple number of extremist groups that are determined to strike the west, including right here in america. this past week, we saw major terror roundup in australia leading to the arrest of at least 15 people who allegedly were planning to behead

australian citizens in public. right to our southern border, there are fears of islamic extremists could be crossing into our country. foxnews.com obtained a bulletin from the texas department of public safety warning that isis social media messaging was expressing increased interest in using holes in our border to enter the u.s. joining me to talk about all of this, fox news terrorism expert phares. i want to get into this bit of news you have broken to us that pro-iranian forces have entered yemen's capital of sanaa and seized many government buildings. are you confirming that for us? >> yeah. this is already on arab networks over the past eight, nine hours. these are mostly shia militias in northern yemen which were battling the yemeni government suddenly have entered actually the capital, have seized the radio station building, the prime minister's office and now battle are around the ministry of defense. so this is a very serious development. >> what does it portend for the

bigger picture? >> the southern flank of saudi arabia now is exposed to iranian military action or iranian terrorism. these pro-iranian militias have a badr with saudi arabia. very close to mecca and medina. this is very serious. for us in the united states, this means iran would have an influence on the red sea and that would put a lot of jeopardy of our activities in the region. the northern tip you have suez canal, the southern tip is where all the world entire economy flows from that part. >> this coming at a time when secretary of state kerry has suggested we work with iran to help defeat isis. >> there is something happening that washington that we are wishing that iran is going to help us against the terrorists. what iran is doing is taking advantage of us being busy with isis, then scoring points advancing the region. >> what do you make of kerry's suggestion we work with iran? >> it would be very wrong to

suggest that we could be associates with iranian forces coming in to iraq operating in sunni areas. this would inflame the sectarian divide if the middle east much deeper than what it is right now. >> so iran is the bigger picture. it has been suggested by many that isis is really just a side show, as much as all of our attention is on it. that the bigger problem here is iran and its nuclear ambition. >> we need to look at it as bidimensional. we are dealing with two growing networks against us. one is isis and al qaeda and home grown jihadists all connected, in a sense, against us. on the other hand, a growing threat on the ground which is iran and hezbollah and assad and their allies in the region. we need to see from both perspectives. >> of all those scenarios and components which you just mentioned, which is the greatest threat? >> i think immediately we have to contain isis. this strategy is not going to roll back isis but in the medium and long run, iran would be the greatest danger, because if they have the nukes and have all these platforms conquered in iraq, syria, in lebanon and now

in yemen, that would be very, very serious. >> i want to quote from "federalist" recently. "our inward looking bipartisan ruling class refuses to deal with reality. war consists of massive killing that diss spirits the survivors. yet our ruling class refuses to consider how many of what categories of people will have to be killed in order to end this war with the peace that we want." >> that's very rough statement but not that far from geopolitical realities. if we don't stop isis, it will actually get to lebanon, it will get to saudi arabia. if we don't stop iran, it will also get to the gulf and all our interests and interests of our allies in the region will be jeopardized. >> it seems to me when i read a quote like that and look back through u.s. military history since the end of world war ii, since korea, vietnam, first and second gulf wars, there is this

r reticence to defeat the economy. which defeats the picture in the long run. >> one problem of the united states, we always come late to all conflicts. now we are late in engaging both isis and iran as we saw in syria, as we see today. >> always appreciate your perspective, thank. tonight, greta van susteren investigates isis. new details about the proper group's leader, the american connections and their unusual rise to power. "greta investigates" tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern. today marks one year since the westgate mall attack in nairobi. the al shabab-led shooting left 67 peep dead. many people the city is still wide open to a similar attack for too little resources for protection. today friends, relatives and victims gathered outside the malle to remember their loved ones. >> we have been completely shattered. our life is not as it used to be. >> i've had a long journey.

but it's made me more positive and for focused on the fact that we need world peace. and eye for an eye is going to leave the world a blind peace. >> the east african nation is on high alert today against another terror strike. al shabab has vowed vengeance for the death of the alleged mastermind. he was killed by a u.s. air strike in southern somali at the beginning of this month. afghanistan's two presidential candidates have signed a deal to share power. it is a major victory for stek jo secretary of state john kerry who got the political rivals to enter into the agreement. under the agreement the two men will have a near-equal say in government appointees. it also leaves the door up for up to 10 t,000 troops to stay i afghanistan to the end of the year. police have now questioned a pen of interest in the hanna

graham case. investigators pieced together her last movements leading up to her disappearance last proofrid downtown mall area in virginia. leland, what's the latest? >> reporter: right now we are awaiting a press conference from police that was scheduled very quickly for jurt about an hour and 45 minutes from now where we are thinking they are going to talk about this search and what they have gleaned over the past 48 hours as this case has developed very, very quickly. i'm standing in the same area that hannah graham was last seen on surveillance tape. 18 years old, university of virginia student. she was here about 1:00 in the morning walking down the street when police say she ran into this man, also caught on surveillance tape. 6'2", 270 pounds with dreadlocks. he put his around her and police say he led her off to a restaurant. that's where the trail runs cold about 1:30 in the morning. today and yesterday there were

hundreds of searchers out. a number of students, other residents of charlottesville all of whom say this has really touched them and their community to have this missing girl. they have been looking everywhere, train tracks, ravines, thickets, under houses that are raised off the ground, under out buildings, people's backyards, those kinds of things. the other thing police have done, they've brought out search dogs, bloodhounds out here to try to follow accidescents in t kind of things. so far police are very tight lipped from what they gathered from this person of interest's home. they impounded his car. on friday they said they did not have enough information to make an arrest in this case. whether the past 48 hours has allowed that evidence to develop or they found something new, we hope to find out at just about 3:00. >> we'll be watching for that, leland, from shcharlottesville, virginia. after two security incidents at the white house, the

president says he still has confidence in the secret service but others accuse the agency of falling down on the job. this is the most basic, the most simple type of procedure. and how anyone, especially in these days of isis and with concern about terrorist attacks, someone could actually get into the white house without being stopped is inexcusable. >> ron kessler, the author who's written a book on the secret service, coming up. and a sinking freighter with six people, including a baby, stuck on board. we'll tell you what happened next. and the search for a self-described survivalist that police suspect in an ambush on pennsylvania state troopers. >> reporter: doug, nine days into this manhunt, heavily armed police, helicopters, planes and killer eric freen is still on the loose. latest from his neighborhood next.

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including a 1 1/2-year-old baby. three crew members stay on-board the ship as rescuers got it to safer waters. ultimately nobody was injured. in the pocono mountains community of pennsylvania, police have lifted a shelter in place order but are telling residents to stay out of the woods as the search continues for self-described survivalist accused of shooting two state troopers. >> reporter: that shelter in place order urged residents to stay indoors and away from their windows. it was put into effect here friday night after shorts were reportedly fired here in freen's neighborhood. as of last night people have been able to come and go as they please, but police are still searching in and around freen's home which is about a mile up the road looking for the suspected cop killer.

search continues in and around this area that has state parks and gaming land surrounding it. this photo was tweeted by the atf. it shows one of many agencies involved in the search. men are in complete camouflage searching for an armed and dangerous man here in the woodlands. now police believe freen -- we also, by the way, i'm sorry. we saw a little over an hour ago in freen's home, bloodhounds were seen coming out of his home. they had clothes that freen wore. they want the dogs to obviously continue to pick up his scent. we saw that earlier today. this is still a very active search scene. freen is a local. he's been firing a rifle since high school. his father said he has unmatched shot. he "doesn't miss. "he is a self-dubbed survivalist. he's accused of shaying instay wood woods. the fbi has his on the top ten wanted list. we expect a press conference today at 3:00 p.m. for updates.

all we know right now is at some point on friday night police were in this area and the thought was that they perhaps had him cornered. but we just don't know what these shots were fired or where they came from. we hope to get more answers at 3:00 p.m. as the search continues in the wood and around where freen's parents lived about a mile up the road. >> thank you very much. two security incidents at the white house in as many days. but first the agency is investigating friday's alarming breach after an intruder made his way across the fence and through the front doors of the white house. in a statement the secret service is defending its reaction, "the challenge of securing the white house complex from security threats is ever present. although the officers showed tremendous restraint and discipline in dealing with this subject. the location of golznzalez's arrest is not acceptable."

"the first family detail." i want to start off by reading a quote from your book that says, "much like a car that never gets regular maintenance and oil changes, the 7,000 employees of the secret service lurching along until a tragedy like the kennedy assassination forces it to rectify deficiencies." what are the deficiencies we are talking about? >> they range from corner cutting by letting people in to events without magnetometer or metal detection screening. >> we saw that a few years ago. >> to not keeping up with the latest firearms, to not insisting on physical fitness and firearms requalification standards. in my book i reveal that bradley cooper was allowed by the secret service to go in his suv into a secure area at the white house correspondents dinner where obama was speaking where even secret service vehicles have to be screened for explosives.

the order was don't screen him, it was just a favor. this just is an indication. the statement by the secret service i can tell you the fbi is horrified at this and laughing at the cover-up the secret service is perpetuating here, because to say that it wassed a admirable that they showed restraint, that's wonderful. can you imagine if this guy had a bomb and detonated it in the white house and the president was there? obama is clueless about the threat to his own life. there's scandal after scandal. i have many of them in my book. new scandals, old scandals. the agents hiring prostitutes, a story which i broke, on and on. and yet obama says i have confidence in the secret service. he's not going to have confidence in his family is taken out. >> there is an element of absurdity to this all when you consider the complexity and the massive security apparatus that

this country has erected in the aftermath of 9/11, $80 billion from cyber security and cyber surveillance to tsa to all these blockades in front of all these federal buildings that we all see every day. yet a guy is able to hop over this fence, run and get inside the oval office. >> first of all, morale is very bad. they don't have enough agents, uniformed officers. there's tremendous turnover. they're making them work overtime. obviously these officers were either asleep or not paying attention. but beyond that the orders are to take out someone if a dog doesn't take him out, if he's about to threaten the president. >> seems to me you send a very strong message by doing that. if this man were shot, that would -- >> the secret service has done that routinely over the years, shot and killed people on the white house lawn way before they ever got to the white house. but to allow someone to get into the white house which has never happened before is unforgivable. and the fact that the front door

was unlock tells you something as well. we all have common sense. we lock our doors. yet the secret service because of its arrogance does not even lock the front door. >> on the other hand, you do have to balance security against a democracy -- >> sure. but nobody's saying that people should just walk in and be able to see the president. you have to go through security. you have to go through background check and you certainly don't want to have crazy people running into the white house. i know for a fact that in addition to all this the secret selves has rejected calls by experts to upgrade their motion detectors, their wmd detectors, to more sophisticated devices that are now available and the secret service refuses. their attitude is we're the great secret service, we know what we're doing, we've always done it this way, we make do with less and that's why we have one scandal after another and i'm telling you, there's going to be an assassination.

that's what the agents tell me. i'm very sorry to predict that but that's the only way that this is going to be changed. because obama constantly defends this broken agency. >> ron kessler, author of "the first family detail." secret service agents reveal details of the president's lives. another sprint car driver is killed. are known terrorists trying to sneak into the u.s. through our poreous southern boarder? our political panel is next. i have a reason to believe that on september 10th there were actually four individuals trying to cross through the texas border who were apprehended at two different stations that do have ties to mill titary organizations in th middle east. are you not aware of that? >> i've heard reports to that effect.

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one congressman says that according to an internal dhs document, illegal immigrants from middle eastern countries have entered the u.s. through our southern border. but dhs secretary jay johnson says it is unclear if any known terrorists have gotten through. our political panel will get into that deeper in just a few minutes. but first, elizabeth has a check of the other headlines. 47-year-old sprint car driver was killed during a practice session at beaver dam raceway in wisconsin yesterday. his car hit the side wall after coming in contact with another car and flipping three times. one escaped inmate remains on the run but four others are back in custody. the prisoners escaped yesterday from a central jail in california. authorities say the men were being held on various charges including attempted murder, armed robbery. it is unclear exactly how they escaped. those areal some your headlines making stories, doug. now back to you. >> elizabeth, thanks very much for that. the department of homeland security secretary jay johnson

says there's no intelligence suggesting that suspected or known isis terrorists have illegally entered the united states through our southern border. but during a house homeland security hearing just last week, congress may jason chavitz from utah referred to security breaches. he says of those illegal aliens, 13 are syrian, six are iraqi an four are iranian. here's johnson response to that now. >> i have reason to believe that on september 10th there were actually four individuals trying to krs through tcross through t border who were apprehended at two different stations that do have ties to known terrorist organizations in the middle east.%só are you not aware of that? >> i've heard reports to that

effect. i don't know the accuracy of the reports. >> well, our political panel is here now to weigh in on this. angela mcgowan, and richard fowler. is isis already here and is there any credible evidence to back up what you think? start with you, richard. >> listen, there is no question that we have issues on our border that we have to deal with as a country. i think we have to have some work in washington to get that done. i'm not sure if isis is here. the president has spoken on isis, very clear it is an imminent threat and it is not hamg right now. >> each time he's spoken. the first time he said they were like the junior varsity team. >> no, there's no question that isis is a threat but i don't see them posing an attack on america tomorrow. >> your question was are they already here. we have people with u.s. pa

passports that have left our borders, joined isis and come back into our country that are terrorists. you heard secretary johnson testify before, he said he's heard of stories. the bottom line is the more that we delay legislation to secure the borders we're going to end with more death and destruction. >> are you troubled that secretary jay johnson did not give a direct yes or no answer to that question? it would seem if there were potential terrorists crossing our southern border illegally, he'd be the first person that would be warned about it and would have the facts on the table to enlighten us. >> nobody's getting the briefings he's getting. that being said, even though there is a possibility of terrorists on our borders, we have to find a way to secure or borders but that's not mutually exclusive with also making sure we pass comprehensive immigration reform. that's how we soflt border crisis, one, close down the badr and two create a pact for citizenship -- >> if we don't secure our

borders we won't have a homeland for people to emigrate to. >> i hear that, angela. >> i listened to the vast majority of that hearing where that exchange happened. issing else jay johnson said in the hearing which troubled some people. that if there was a pathway to citizenship opened up to illegal aliens, we much better be able to track these people. it drew a response from another congressman who i believe said, are you serious that if we open a pathway to citizenship that terrorists are going to come forward and declare themselves terrorists? >> they're not doing it now and the bottom line is we're not even enacting laws that are already on the books. how can we ensure if we relax those laws and recreate those laws they're going to abide those laws when they didn't respect our laws anywhere because we're the infidels. they don't respect our country. from this is a resource question. you have i.c.e. agents who operate in new york and chicago

and topeka, kansas. if you create a pathway to citizenship, you can move those i.c.e. agents to the border. sadly, whether it is border security or pathway to citizenship, nothing is going to get through the united states congress where the problem lies. >> something else jay johnson said in the hearing the other day. "i expect to be in a position to announce some things in the month of october concerning the southern campaign plan and it is an effort to more strategically bring to bear all of the resources of my department on border security in a way that's not stove pipe, in a way that's strategic in how we all use a different resources within the department." >> i can't make anything of that except gibberish. >> he's prepared to athouns somethi announce something in october. >> i think what the department of homeland security is trying to figure out how to use the fine night amount of the resources we have to fix the

problem on the border. whether it was a democratic administration or republican administration, they've got to figure out how they use their budget and their human capital to resource this correctly. the only way we fix that is by finding those who are here illegally can come out of the shadows and have a pathway to citizenship, we can redirect those resources to the border. there's problem in richmond, virginia. there's problem in topeka, kansas, and in anchorage, alaska. >> i don't think federally we can solve it. they more know what goes on in their state than the federal government. >> our constitution is regulated by the federal government. >> we solved that world problem. panelists stay with us. mid-term elections are right around the corner. could democrats lose control of the senate? we'll continue with the panel right after the break. really?

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