>> heather and i will be back in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is a fox news alert. we're waiting the white house daily press briefing, the first one since a major security breach on friday. get this, a fence jumper getting inside the white house before he stops. right now there are reports that the secret service is thinking of screening people blocks from the white house and furious lawmakers demanding an investigation into how this breach could have happened. some saying the intruder easily could have explosives strapped to his body. we expect the white house press secretary to field questions on this and we'll let you know more as the press briefing gets underway. and turning to another fox news

alert, isis terrorists releasing a chilling message threatening the u.s. in a speech released over social media. islamic extremists urging members of the muslim faith to take violent action against disbelievers by any means necessary. this is "outnumbered." here with us today, hashtag one lucky guy, he's back, pete and he's outnumbered. very busy show. we're great to have your military expertise here today. i think we get right to it. >> let's do it. >> let's jump in here. the u.s. drumming up support for the battle against the terrorists to a horrific campaign of torture, genocide and rape. some now questioning whether the president's heart is really in this fight. senior political analyst brit hume. >> the united states is undisputably capable of conquering isis but he's not

putting the full effort into that at all which is why i think the majority who doubt the et c ethicacy see it. >> pete, let's go to you first on this. president obama over the weekend saw this warning clearly from isis terrorists but he's hearing criticism even from some in his own party. the general saying he still hasn't even approved this plan for military action so is brit hume right? is the president's heart really committed to defeating isis? >> i don't think it is. his campaign speech from the very beginning is i'm going to end the war in iraq and i think that clouds every single aspect of how he sees it. libya, different. syria, different. other countries. but iraq for him is the place to lead, not where we're going to be sending people. i don't think that he sits back and says that isis isn't worth trying to destroy. but i think his political blinders are on so heavily that

getting around the word "iraq" is so difficult for him to do, you see the indecision, the deathering, why it's not really a war. he doesn't want to require what it is because it would require decisive action which we're not seeing. >> this is a stop and go type of nature. dempsey saying the president hasn't approved the plan he's saying. do you think the president is really committed to this fight or do you think it was only those beheading videos that got the attention of the elect orate and drove the polling into a place that made president obama feel like he had to do something? >> i think it's interesting. brit hume is saying that because he's not getting the help from allies as, you know, bargaining for and hunting for that that's leading to the lack of heart in this fight against isis. congressman duffy of wisconsin actually said that it's the president's lack of heart to fight isis causing the international community not to jump on board. >> that's exactly right. it's the cycle that feeds

itself. we dither. that's right. it's a psych they'll will continue circulating until we decide to leave. >> joe lieberman saying the same thing. when asked why the president's poll numbers are so low on this issue, he makes the case, take a listen, that the president hasn't gone out there and reassured the american people he is committed. >> i think the public began to lose confidence in the president on foreign policy because they didn't feel he was leading and for awhile, they were happy with us because they wanted to stay out of problems but then russia, isis, iraq, the whole combination has scared people. >> what do you think? >> you know what i think is interesting, i mean, you've got that going on and who is watching and listening to the president. some words, though, that the president has said that are realisticing today, have the terrorists now in their new messaging online talking about no boots on the ground so as the president is reaching out and

saying what he don't do, you have a whole new group of actors saying -- and pointing it out in their message now, isis has their spokesperson saying that no boots on the ground? here is what we have waiting for you and calls him by name, obama. >> i'm confused. why can't this president build a coalition which i think is important and be a leader at the same time? it seems as though to him these things are exclusive. he can't too much of a leadership role because he has to build a coalition. no. if america takes a leadership role and at the same time expresses a desire to build a coalition, other countries say this is a leader of the free world. they're in it to win it. let's jump on board and be their partner in that. >> that's a great people. the president needs to call george h. bush who built a coalition and got the job done, the same leadership would be required here. >> he's going to try to build up the coalition by giving a speech at the u.n. later this week. can he do it? we'll tackle that later in the

hour. first which it comes to fighting isis, robert gates isn't backing down on previous remarks that american boots are needed on the ground. listen to what he said in an interview yesterday z. what i believe and what i suspect most military people believe is that given the mission, the president has assigned, which is degrade and destroy, to be able to do that, some small american of american advisers, trainers, special forces and forward spotters, forward air controllers are going to have to be in harm's way. >> okay. so this back and forth over boots on the ground i don't think it helping the united states of america. and the president has been criticized for advertising what he won't do and i wouldn't want american boots on the ground, either, but it doesn't sound like we're getting anyone else's boots so how are we going to defeat isis? >> the term destroy comes with the implications of what you need to do in order to do that. military professionals are just

pointing out the fact that you can't destroy an enemy like isis purely from the air. and right now there doesn't exist a boots on the ground component strong enough to destroy isis. therefore, a, plus b has to equal some level of c which is u.s. leadership and boots on the ground. everyone is divorcing that analysis from advocating for it. i'll i'm -- they're saying if you want to destroy, you need to be willing to do that and you can't tell the enemy where you won't go. that's the worst way to start a conflict. >> interesting nuance. >> harris, do you think he'll buckle on this? >> the terrorists are already responding to the words, you know. no boots on the ground, we do have people in iraq and they're in special forces uniforms. they're out there in that role and those officially are boots on the ground but what the president said not in a combat role and now you have the enemy chiming back. my question is those people you say you're going to train, to get in there and do the

destruction that would be needed from the inside out on the ground, are those 5,000 or so syrian rebels we gididn't want arm but now we're going to. we're going to take them off their land, take them to saudi arabia and train them. it will take a year. i'm wondering, where is the conviction for isis terrorists where they're going to hang out for a year, drinking coffee, talking about whatever? >> i've been trying to rationalize like what benefit is there or was there for the president to sort of put himself in the corner as one military general put it last week, for the president to even lay out his plan of no boots on the ground? it's one thing we're discussing whether or not boots are needed on the ground. but why would a president not knowing the full scope of the situation yet, and at one time saying we don't even fully have a strategy to combat isis, why commit to no boots on the ground? politics, right? has to be politics.

>> it's absolutely politics. if he's saying americans want action but no boots on the ground, i'm going to give them exactly what they want. i'm going to make it look like we're going to act and talk tough about it. >> does the military community -- >> they're outraged. people know we can't do what we're saying we're going to do. it will not happen. they're a terrorist army. as soon as troops arrive, they'll turn into a guerrilla force, melt into the city examine try to prolong is. >> whatever it takes. >> destroying isis is not going to be efficient. it's not going to be clean. war is messy. and so it's not going to be a quick thing. it's something that is going to be ongoing which will require presidential leadership to articulate the scope. >> we have nor more boots on the ground fighting ebola now. >> pinetta appearing to put some blame for the rice of isis on the commander in chief. he said that he and several other members of the administration urged mr. bam wam

to arm moderate syrian rebels two years ago. but the president decidedit. >> i think the president's concern and i understand it, was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where the weapons would wind up. my view was, you have to begin somewhere. >> was not arming the rebels at that time a mistake? >> i think that would have helped. and i think in part, we paid a price for not doing that in what we see happening with isis. >> there's the message there and then the motive of why pan et a was saying these things. let's start with the message first. i tend to agree with president obama for resisting arming the syrian rebels. even though they might not have been jihadys at the time, their goal was to defeat asad in the day. arming them now, arming moderates who are going to have our equipment and weapons in

potentially a future army. >> i want someone to tell me who they are. i have yet for someone to be able to define for me what a moderate syrian rebel is. >> it's a butcher, baker, candlestick maker. >> and you can guarantee me those weapons won't be used against us, against our allies in the future. i think president obama was right. i think the latter point with respect to residual forces in iraq and leaving those forces in iraq i think was probably correct. i think we probably should have done that. i think that would have prevented a lot of issues. talking about syria and arming people we don't know what they are on what they're capable are, that's tricky. >> we're echoing panetta's comments are hillary clinton. we recently saw in that interview with the atlantic may go -- magazine, she also put in her book that not arming them early on led to isis. i wonder if these comments could

play into hillary's hand. >> and she has a new book out. let's go on record and say i was right and hillary was right and harris, we were in the room and we tried to tell president obama -- look. arming the rebels early to me sounds like democracy building. so i actually agree with pan -- i don't agree with panetta and hillary on that one. i agreed initially with president obama and now i don't. >> apparently i spent too much time this weekend trying to read the words of the enemy. as i said all along, they seem to be winning the propaganda war. here is part of what they said with regard to rebels we say now we want to be aligned with. make no doubt about it, by the way, their goal is still to fight asad. no matter what we tell them we want to do. so this guy, he's a spokesperson for isis now. he said that the west looked the other way when barrel bombs were dropped and chemical weapons were used against muslim civilians insides syria. so what he's saying is, wait a minute. he's checking the guys on the

ground in syria. wait before you help the americans. remember, they weren't interested in helping you when you were in trouble. >> motives are all over the map on this. this is a clinton machine at work. president obama's foreign policy is a disaster. her -- she was a part that far disaster very early on. she's using surrogates to go out to make the case she really did want to arm the syrian rebels. she wanted a residual force so later on she can divorce herself from the failed obama foreign policy. this is definitely part of that. but i think panetta is right. the residual force was a terrible idea not to leave behind and if you were ever going to act, you were going to act decisively when you declared asad had to go. it's like exactly what we've seen in libya and elsewhere. >> that hasn't worked, though. >> no, no, no. it's the same failure. we said we were going to do something. we broke it and we never brought something behind it to fill the vacuum: >> arming them may have been a bad idea then and -- >> it's a worse idea now.

>> they're using the president's own words against him. >> right. and do we partner with asad? i'm wondering, do we cut a deal with asad? >> what kind of deal could you cut? >> the enemy of my enemies. >> my point. >> the white house is like fort knox. you know that. one of the most protected places on earth but security may need to get tighter after an alarming breach. we'll tell you what the secret service is considering plus do democrats believe in miracles? they might have to if they want to retain control of the senate in the midterms, what one leading democratic strategist is saying about their chances. and right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. join us for "outnumbered" overtime by logging on to fox news.com/outnumbered. tell us what topics you want to hear us talk more about. we'll be right back. when fixed income experts

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home you're looking at. that's where the press corps is gathered. there are reports the secret service is thinking of screening people blocks way from the white house. here is why. on saturday, a man drove up to the white house gates, refused to leave, sparking bomb technicians to go there in full gear to go through his car. even more alarming, though, there was another incident. after an iraq war veteran jumped over the white house fence friday night, ran across the north lawn, he made it all the way inside before athsz stopped in. police say he had a knife on him but republican congressman king of new york said it could have been a lot worse. >> he could have had a bomb on, a vest on. he did have a knife so this demands a full investigation. there can be a lot of conspiracies against the president, a lot of very complex assassination plots. this is the most basic, the most simple type of procedure and how anyone, especially in the days of isis, and we're concerned

about terrorist attacks, someone could get into the white house is inexcusable. >> who needs isis? you have protected assets and so my curiosity lies in this. 42-year-old omar gonzales, this ex-war vet, may have done us a favor. >> maybe, yeah. in that we recognize -- you know who else is doing us a favor is the propaganda from isis declaring their true intentions. a lot of people want to be taken over by a state of islamics. take a non believer and get them. non believer in what they believe in. >> we believe in what we believe in. they want to kill us for it. >> peter king is right. he could have had a vest on. i just always get more concerned, this is my civil libertarian streak. we're going to have zones and zones of more screening and more

checking. there's a way to secure this without turning into a fortress around the white house. >> i couldn't help but let my mind just flow to something else. another asset that we didn't protect, the u.s. outpost in benghazi, libya. i don't want to say this is a trend but smells like it. >> i think you bring up a good point about it being a lesson learned, like when the young boy took the world trade center and took the picture, they were able to secure that area after it happened. don't you think it's odd during this administration, the secret service has been showing up in the press a little more than the most elite law enforcement officer should. they have the prostitution scandal in colombia and then we saw -- remember when the translator was vetted? he was too close to president obama. >> what about the people at the party at the white house? >> they're in the newspapers and news more than we should be and another guy on the white house lawn got attacked by a dog two weeks ago so i think the secret

service needs to get the act together a little better. >> we just had this discussion about this white house and isis and how perhaps arming the syrian rebels early on as pete was suggesting could have prevented the rise of isis and here we have a white house that's clearly showing that they're going to be reactive and possibly build a fortress around the white house. listen. there are ways to prevent this from happening. they're not doing their audits, their checks, test runs to make sure people are up to the right standard. this is a rare situation. the secret service pulled their weapons and ran everybody out of the west wing. journalists and everybody. this is the real breach of security that they need to be concerned about. >> and honestly, i don't need to know too much detail about how they're going to deal with this. i just want them to deal with it so i'm not really a fan of finding out all the details about what they're doing two blocks from the white house. just do it. >> i wouldn't be bothered. i have a strong libertarian

streak. if they wanted to do security checks around the white house, i wouldn't have a problem with that. >> would love them to be random. >> secret service, maybe stay awake. this guy jumped the fence, ran across the lawn. he could have done a little dance or something. what are they doing? was no one even alert enough to see that -- i mean, he's running across -- that takes a little time. wake up. come on. >> still a sophisticated plot. he ran across the lawn. it's about vigilance. >> a guy hopped the fence two weeks ago and the dog attacked him. you would think their act together but two more incidents two weeks later. >> if anybody wanted to poke at us to see what they could set up -- >> it doesn't look good. >> they know what it takes to evacuate the white house. my big question to the white house is mr. president, why not come down harder on the people who are protecting you? there would be some people fired right now z. he's not known for coming down on people that work

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>> this is a fox news alert. okay, that press briefing we told you we were waiting for at the white house has begun with josh taking the first question. remember, we were just talking about this before the commercial break, the two incidents at the white house where on one of

them, one man made his way into the white house. this is what josh asked about and what he said. watch. >> let me say a couple of things. the secret service has indicated that they are conducting a review of the incident that occurred on friday night. that review will include a wide variety of things and for a comprehensive list, i would refer you to the secret service but it will include a variety of things, including the positioning of tactical and non tactical assets inside and outside of the fence line, it will include a review of technical or physical security enhancements that may be necessary to improve security at the white house. it will also include a question about ongoing staffing and an assessment about whether or not additional staffing is needed. there will be a review of policy and procedures related to the assessment of threats and also it will include a review of

previous interactions with the subject. let me also say that the -- providing security at the white house is complicated business. the white house is, as many people know, one of the more popular tourist destinations in our nation's capital. thousands of tourists on a typical day will tour the white house. that means that thousands of tourists, members of the public, will walk out that front door at the conclusion of their tour. the white house is, of course, a place of business. it's essentially a large office building. it is where members of the white house staff and white house journalists show up every day to do their work. and facilitating your entry and exit to this complex with the minimal amount of inconvenience while also providing security is a priority. right outside the front gate of the white house is lafayette park which is mun the more prominent first amendment zones in the country.

that individuals will gather in that area to make their first amendment views known and this means that the secret service has the challenging task of balancing the need to ensure the safety and security of the first family while also ensuring that the white house continues to be the people's house and bouncing those equities is challenging work but clear in this case a review of that work is warranted and that review will be conducted. >> what's the president's personal reaction to this? does he express concern about whether he and his family are truly safe here? >> i had the opportunity to speak briefly with the president about it earlier today. he did indicate, as you would expect, his family lives in the white house and so he is obviously concerned by the incident that occurred on friday evening. at the same time, the president continues to have complete confidence in the professionals at the secret service to do the

very challenging work that i described earlier. the president is also confident that this review that is underway is one that will be conducted with the highest amount of professionalism and he's confident that the reforms that are determined to be necessary will be implemented in the proper way. >> you talked about the need to strike the right balance between security and -- >> we're going to pull away from that. that was moments ago. josh at the press core briefing we told you about at the top of the hour that we're waiting for is underway now and we have pulled a little bit of it so you could see. and the headline there, part of the headline is protecting the white house is complicated business. thousands of tourists a week go in and out of the front door, trying to have the challenge and the task of the secret service balancing the need of safety and security along with the access to the people's house. you are shaking your head. >> if we can't protect the white house, americans looking at this are saying how are we supposed to protect the rest of the

country? we're having serious discussions about terrorism and they're making it out like this is a tough job. we have to balance privacy and security. what i would like to see, i would like to see cameras on the secret service guys while this guy was hopping the expense and running across the lawn to show us what they were doing and how about president obama call for some people to be fired. stop saying the secret service is doing a great job. no, they're not. they have repeatedly not done a great job. we're all watching it. we want you protected and the country protected. >> that's right. get you fired up. >> sandra, you were, too. >> you don't want to know what i said. >> we do. >> when josh was speaking, i think i turned to all of you and said translation, they don't have enough money or people to actually sukt security properly. that's what he was telling us. they didn't say we messed up, we dropped the ball. we may need more people. they're asking for more money. this is exemplary of the white

house never saying that we didn't do something right. >> take a mulligan on a small one and say we missed it. i would only take away from the remarks as well that it is a difficult balance. i'll give it to josh and the white house a little bit. having fortified before, to both make sure they're accessible to the population and there we're talking about suicide bombers, we're not talking about that thankfully at the white house right now, although as peter king pointed out, who knows what that guy over the fence could have. to make it accessible but also foort -- fortified is a nuanced deal. >> i was falling asleep. you thought he would talk about the changes to the daily menu. sandra hit the nail on the head. there's never any accountability, never any fire in the belly. this is the president of the united states. he actually mentioned the president and his family buried in the remarks. >> it was a reaction. not a question from a reporter.

it's still going on. if it makes news in that briefing, we'll bring it to you. >> president obama leading a first of its kind meeting at the united nations on wednesday. the u.s. is proposing a resolution establishing international standards to stop recruiting by terrorist organizations. a big problem right now. adopting the resolution can slow the stream of new recruits to areas like iraq. will all countries get on board? "new york times" reporting, quote, one western ally told american diplomats last week it would be exceedingly difficult for them to prosecute their citizens for attending fund raisers but with the resolution, there will be a legal basis to act, said a senior european official. it will also force countries to upgrade their legal underpinnings to prosecute violators. i want to go to you on this first. this could be labelled as a pretty high stakes test for the president to really recruit these countries to join in. >> so he's trying to recruit these countries to put boots on

the ground and join him in the international coalition and to try to stop terrorism. that's a pretty heavy lift. there's an excellent expose in the telegraph about how some countries the president is seeking to appeal to are funding jihadism. so we look at these countries as well. turkry are covering for the terrorists. they're letting them travel throughout their country. they're enabling the recruitment. the people the president is going to appeal to, saudi arabia with its history of promoting anti-west philosophy, we don't have any friends in the region. i got news for the president. this coalition he's talking about, it isn't there. >> and that's why they're not naming names or talking about what they'll be doing. everyone is there in concept. coalitions don't work as a concept. they've to be boots, money, real laws. in this case, this would be measures taken by individual countries to prevent their citizens from supporting isis. if there's a low bar to meet,

how about not sending your people to syria or iraq? what else are we going to get? >> chuck hagel recently said more than 100 u.s. citizens with passports are fighting along the terrorist organization in the middle east. thousands more are suspected joining isis from other european countries. >> all right. so also what we're seeing is we're seeing some southeast asians turn up in some of the people who have been killed among isis inside syria and iraq and what that says is the recruiting base has now gone global. i wouldn't call them a world power. i would call them a wordily power in the making because they're able to, through social media and their propaganda is strong. look at what they've done to our journalist. they've raised their number of fighters and we estimate between 30,000 and 35,000 now according to the c.i.a. but those could best of your knowledgeon in a day if we wanted them to. when you look at who is being killed on the battlefield, they're all over but southeast asia is particularly troubling

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>> a miracle. that's what one democratic strategist says it would take for democrats to hold on to the senate in the current political environment. republicans need to pick up six seats on election day to gain troll. listen to joe trippe. >> it should a miracle for democrats to hold on to the

senate but right now, i would gauge this as republicans are likely to pick up between five and eight seats. if democrats hold it to five seats, it will be because what carl is talking about, a money advantage and also being able to use the obama get out the vote methods that were perfected in 2012. >> pete, what do you think? is joe trippe right? would it be a miracle? >> i wouldn't say a miracle but they'll need a lot of help. i've said this before. incumbents are difficult to beat. they have an inherent advantage. when you look at the map, montana and west virginia and georgia are already going to go into the republican camp. they're not going to beat mitch mc connell in kentucky. then arkansas, north carolina, iowa, new hampshire now with scott brown and alaska, sullivan. across the board, republicans are running good, strong tickets, good, strong candidates and democrats have had some missteps. bruce brailly in ohio, some

other folks that made comments they want to take back. across the board, national numbers for democrats are for the president is pulling them all down. >> is this about money or is this about policy right now? do you think that money will save democrats this time around? >> i think one also contributes to the other, right? intensity is very high on the republican side and a new "wall street journal" poll shows that republicans have the propensity so why is that intensity so low? >> what you mentioned, polling, unfavorable ratings with the president. they'll have to spend money. that's a big problem. and as pete mentioned, republicans are forcing democrats to spend money in places they didn't think they would have to. so pete mentioned oregon, minnesota, new hampshire, virginia, places they didn't think they would have to use dollars for. that means every dollar they're spending in a place they didn't anticipate is a place they can't use it somewhere else. >> that will play out in colorado right now. we talk about people who had a

misstep. look at the senator who useded word isis and took it in some kind of weird way into account what's happened to the two journalists and used that as a political example of something or other and then had to walk that back. they're spending a ton of cash because that race in colorado has tightened up so much, it could down in history to be the most amount spent and n that state. >> more that i see and do continue to see, democratic candidates campaigning away from the president, the more i think they're in trouble. >> that's what we saw in 2010. democrats were sort of running away from obamacare. they couldn't get far enough away from it. is that the key here, the fact that the president is highly unpopular? people aren't satisfied with foreign policy. economy always being a key issue. >> that's a big part of it. democrats have to run on artificial things which induce missteps. they're trying to draw characters of republicans. i think republicans have also learned a lot of tactics that took them awhile to get out. there's different groups out there now digging out those

videos and showing democrats what they are in some of these races. it's been effective. you can't just run on bad, natural numbers. you have to have the operation. >> let's hope they learn it for this and 2016. could it be the end of homework? why some schools are banning after school assignments and whether it's a good idea up next. listen up... i'm reworking the menu. veggies you're cool... mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals. 9 grams of protein... with 30% less sugars than before. ensure, your #1 dr. recommended brand now introduces ensure active. muscle health. clear protein drink and high protein. targeted nutrition to feed your active life. ensure. take life in.

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>> nor outnumbered in a moment. first let's get to so the so the and what's coming up on "happening now." >> police believe they're closing in on a man that ambushed two state troopers, killing one. search is intensifying where police found weapons they believe he hid in the woods. that's where they're searching. rick is on that story for us. police have issued an arrest warrant for a person of interest in the disappearance of hannah graham. she's the u.v.a. student who vanished september 13. and several fires continue to rage out west. the 80,000 acre king fire near lake tahoe has burned at least 10 homes. a new fire near portland, oregon

forced several folks out of their homes as well. william will have a live report. it's all ahead "happening now." sandra? >> thank you. >> thanks. >> well, i may be outnumbered but now it's my turn with this story. could homework soon become something of history? several schools nationwide are banning after school assignments to help students live more stress-free lives. some educators are saying homework is too time consuming, getting in the way of old fashioned family time. while some parents support less homework, others are concerned it might hurt kids in theed long run. >> you think? >> i have to go to our resident spanish teacher. what do you think as our educator? >> reinforcement is important. the problem is since common core, a lot of homework sent home is ridiculous. parents don't understand it, they're going to schools, complaining, feel it's a waste of time. some teachers give homework just

to give it. give you 50 problems because it makes me feel like a good teacher, that i'm doing something wrong. give variety that makes kids think but it doesn't need to take all night. get 10 good problems that kids spend a half hour on, that's enough time. >> the common core homework is too complex. therefore, no more homework? >> it's not too complex. it's ridiculous and absurd. >> so she said 57 plus three equals 50, right? no. i did the diagram. you can't see this because the lighting is funky here. sandra said i think you missed an eight derivative in the 40. you know, look. i mean, i'm all for that reinforcement that you're talking about, quality is important. i mean, why not combine them? do homework with your child. but this could take hours. mama has got to cook. >> that's frustrating time. >> there's a lot of people in

favor of it and saying it causes critical thinking. >> if the homework is too hard, you have few parents that can help them. success academy in new york are intense with these kids so a lot of schools have decided we're not going to give them a lot of homework. we drill the kids for six hours a day. >> i was going to say -- >> let's give them a break. i think it depends on the school the kids are going to of the i just wish it was my school. i worked in my parents' restaurant after school. i never had time to do homework. i was always doing it on bus in the morning. >> but you were brilliant so you didn't need it. >> that's true. >> we just put up a graphic that showed the average honor student is spending 6.8 hours a week on homework. to me that sends a message to me that these kids aren't learning what they have to learn in school. the point is to reinforce what they learned during the day with some homework in the evening. >> the other problem is that a lot of times, parents do the kids' homework for them so the kids aren't even doing it. you'll get a kid in class that

can't do -- has clearly no idea what's going on. >> why would the parent do that? >> they want their kid to get good grades. it's a burden to them. parents don't want to do the homework. that is who is complaining about this. >> that number seems low. >> seven hours a week? >> that's one hour a night. i would spend hours and hours of homework. >> seven hours a week. >> you guys are nuts. >> simply put. >> you wait. you'll see. >> democratic senator in the re-election fight of her political life supporting her alama mater. sandra smith's, too. football game tailgate party and helping a constituent take a stand, a keg stand, that is. was she having a little fun or just going way too far? that's an elected policy. can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one.

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♪ >> it was a lot of the fun. >> oh, boy, a democrat senator locked in a election fight taking a different approach. senator mary landrieu. going with the activist.

it probably helps heroine. and it is a tail gating party and it was not the thing to do. and makes her look fun and cool and i like it. >> i agree. it is sad. and only doing it because she thinks it does help her. >> no, no. >> i told you as an lsu grad. you spend time in baton rouge. you never know what is happens. >> i am outnumbered and i am not saying i didn't have fun in college. >> you never did a cake stand. >> you had to tell me what beer pong was? >> beer is not my beverage of choice. >> you can have whatever you want. >> but my thing is. our elected leaders would be at a different standard.

i guess that is boring. >> we have to talk on outnumbered over time. >> i am ready for sure. >> we are staying out here for outnumbers on the web. click the overtime tab. and we be back tomorrow. "happening now". new threats from ivis against the u.s. and allies. >> this is as the phase of stopping the terrorist begins in iraq. this is "happening now". >> the reason the tenor has a voice. >> a family clinging to hope. >> however insignificant you can be. call the tip line. anything just might help to bring hannah home. >> now the search for missing search for