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>> i think we're in for a long, hard fight over a long period of time against this radical slammism and we need a strategy that puts everything together to defeat it. >> meanwhile, the president talks one hour from right now. see you tomorrow. bill: breaking news on the fight to take on isis. we are waiting for a statement from the president after the u.s. launches its first round of airstrikes overnight. dozen of tomahawk missiles hitting terrorists in two parts of that country has america has entered new phase on the war on terror. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. martha: the predent is expected to address these expanded airstrikes before leaving for the u.n. general
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assembly in new york. five key allies joining the coalition targeting two different militant groups in two different cities. bill: what do we know about the timing of these strikes? why now? >> congress supports this one. this has been debate and talked about. congress didn't want to' touch this one. we had individual lawmakers saying maybe we should debate it. but it's clear politically they didn't want to deal with it. the president said he believed he had authorization or legal authority to do that. more important than all of that is what the administration is calling an imminent threat from khorasan, a tear yoorp group made up of long-time al qaeda members. this group beyond isis, but core and and other terror groups were
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gaining strength. there could be an attack. but overnight the administration said they had gotten words they were finalizing plans, getting closer to the possibility of an imminent terror attack. the administration moving quickly to go not just isis but targeted airstrikes against this terror group khorasan. we are along way away from what the president said a few months ago that al qaeda and its affiliates were the jv squad. bill: this is a nasty brew of groups. five sunni nations publicly support the united states. in is more work to be done to get more nations on board. >> reporter: progress made in the short term pore.
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saudi arabia, bahrain, qatar, united arab emirates joining the u.s. the "wall street journal" has an interview with the egyptian president who says he's on board with president obama going after the militants but goes on to say the administration can't watch its hands of the mideast. that's concern that the president didn't pay enough attention in the middle east. but the point is egypt and other allies are saying is this just airstrikes or is the u.s. in it for the long haul? you can bet that's something the president will have to address an hour from now. martha: this intense round much airstrikes come from bahrain, qatar, saudi arabia, jordan and the united arab emirates coming
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together to quote dismantle as the president said the threat of isis. this coalition of nations is significant. it's a largely sunni group. will they pave the way for other countries to get on board here? >> reporter: that's a great question and something and and bill were just talking about. egypt's president says this has to go beyond military action and he talked about a comprehensive strategy to attack all militants in the region. it could be a long process trying to get other nations and u.s. allies on board with the fight. wall bahrain, jordan, saudi arabia and the uae, there is one
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country that is absent. turkey. over the weekend it was flooded with an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 syrian refugees pouring across the border fleeing isis militants. so while helping with humanitarian aid, turkey has been on the fence at this point staying out of the fight. martha: a lot of questions about turkey and some of these fighters who moved through the border into syria. israel a player in all of this. where do they stand at this point? >> reporter: israel supports the united states * action. there was concern in the beginning possibly the u.s. would be making a deal with the devil with iran. but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore in terms of the fight and just the overtall
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conflict. israel's greatest threat has been iran. so israel supports this. one not not -- one footnote, ist down a syrian fighter jet that strayed into its air space. israel's government has been fighting anti-syrian forces along its border for a while now. this doesn't look look it has anything to do with the u.s. airstrikes. israel shot down a syrian drone. just to make that point clear. martha: it's an extremely sensitive area right now. john huddy in jerusalem. bill: here is syria in the map behind us. we shaded a number of different colors. there are didn't factions at
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play. in the south near the capital city of damascus. all the dark green is operated and controlled by assad and the government forces. the lighter shade of green are sunni faters who opposed --' sunni fighters who opposed assad. and there are groups al-nusra and the khorasan. the yellow group including isis that includes syria and iraq. 22airstrikes in total. 14 hit the town of raqqa. the temporary capital for isis. another 8 went after aleppo, that's where the group khorasan is located.
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that's where the u.s. believes they were plotting against targets here at home. we have ambassador bolton. overnight 22 strikes carried out. i don't know if it's the end or the beginning. what do you think what we have done right now? >> i think the strikes are very late. i think isis has had a long time to prepare and defend against airstrikes like this. is this a one-off. or will it be sustained. i have a feeling it had more to do for the president's politic than for national security. we are sks weeks away from the election. his performance on national security issues has gone into the taken and i think it's very convenient he's come together up n. today. >> reporter: are you making the case this would not have
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happened if he hadn't -- >> now that he started better late than never. but will it be sustained? i don't think we have a sense of what his plan will be. bill: your specialty is difficult moment i. >> let's leave' qatar aside. the other countries have been pulling their hair out about america's unwillingness to don't about isis. from looking from a coalition perspective it's not news that we are on board. it's news that we are on board. bill: where is turkey and egypt. >> the military government in egypt has no love for the obama administration. i think we'll get egypt on board. bill: i mentioned the al-nusra
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front, an outshoot of al qaeda which has been syria for years now and the khorasan fighting and planning and training in syria as an outpost. >> they represent the continued growth of the terrorist threat around the world. the argument -- remember core al qaeda, that it was confined to waziristan along the afghan-pakistan bored. we are seeing rad alice lamb me asee -- we are seeingradical is. pill * what do yospreading.
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bill: what do we need to do to be successful. >> i hope the air attacks will continue based on our ability to find isis targets. martha: so many questions. now that the airstrikes have begun what happen to the leadership of isis. do they go underground? do they move into pop haig centers? will the airstrikes be able to dismantle isis or khorasan, the other group that will be targeted. is more necessary? sent us a tweet @marthamaccallum or @billhemmer. some people see the timing as political. the administration's commit to the bearing -- to tear yig this
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out will bear some commitment. martha: american military plus the rains down on isis in syria. we'll speak to captain chuck mark and rudy giuliani. bill: the wait for president obama. that happens in 48 minutes. we'll get live reports and analysis from bret baier, jennifer dprifin and chris stirewalt and a terrific panel to debate all of this as the pentagon confirms today we are at war. >> the president is come together u.n. general assembly, and what a jump-start he will have as a result of this action to get other coalition partners to participate in this war against isis.
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group linked to that country. retired navy captain, fox news limit analyst chuck nash is with us. good morning. you have been reaching out to folks overnight. what did you find out we need to know. >> we need to scale back our participation. the initial reports normally overtight or under state a situation. one of the perceptions was all of these air forces from these arab countries joined up and we went in and took it to the bad guys. i don't think that's the way it will play out in the final analysis. i think most of the countries aloud their air space to be used but i think we'll find out that's smaller than may have been initially connecticut perceived. >> we can con flirm is no other participation for the targets in
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aleppo and the northwestern part of syria. but with with regard to the isis targets we are told some of these countries flew alongside u.s. planes. can you confirm that? how significant would that be if at all. >> that wham they are saying, whether they flew alongside or whether they were a separate package. but there were a total of 14 strikes against isis targets and 8 against the khorasan grew up near aleppo. of the 14 strike there may have been packages from countries like the uae or jordan, but the other countries would be very stressed to put air up and do that in a coordinated manner with the united states. i think it's a very complex thing to organize. bill: what is your best assess to the what happens next. is there another round of bombing later tonight or is this 22 strike now and wait until the
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dust settles and see what happens next? >> what they will be analyzing is the bomb damage assessment and the bda. they will take a look at the targets that were hit. those targets that were hit last night weren't moving targets. they were b abdbarracks and training. now they will snuggle up close to civilians so it will be difficult to do this from the air. if they try to move heavy equipment and resupply that which was blown out then you can take it out on a selective basis but we'll have to shift from planned fixed targets to move more into what you call armed
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reconnaissance. and that is a completely different role of engagement than for what happened last night. bill: there were casualties and a lot of casualties happened at checkpoints based on the assessment we get from central command. bret baier had some good information on how they adapt. perhaps they go into these urban centers and they are much more difficult to find. israeli military said they shot down a syrian aircraft that was said to be trying to infiltrate israeli air space around the golan heights. how significant, what do we know about that? >> well, the town where that bombing took place where the syrian aircraft was bombing is about a mile from the border of the golan heights. so if that guy rolled in from the east to drop his bomb and pulled off to the west there is no way he could have avoided
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flying into israeli air space. so you have got to be careful when you are planning things. for his part he learned a lesson the hard way. when you have got this much activitying if on in an air -- when you have this much activity going on you can't help but have it bleed off borders. the turks are catching leakers. all this stuff about where was turkey, turkey will have to be in this because this war will move north. bill: the geography is intimate and we'll keep that in mind. captain chuck nash, appreciate you coming on. bill: president obama prepares to address the nation that witnessed these airstrikes overnight. what will he have to say? that happens 39 minutes from now as he heads off to new york for
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'. martha: we are about 35 minutes away from the president's address to the nation after the u.s. launched its first wave of airstrikes in syria. for more let's go to byron york. byron, good morning. we got word the president wanted to address the nation. not surprising give what we have seen took place overnight. what do you expect him to say? >> he will be talking to the american people trying to build support for what's going on. in latest fox news poll approval
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of the president's handling of syria was 27%. his handling of iraq was 34%. the president needs to build public supporte for what he's doing. the more specific audience will be congress. the president maintains he doesn't need congressional support to carry out these strikes. and a lot of senators and congressmen disagree with him. there was a narrow authorization only to train and equip some of the syrian rebels and only that lasts until december 11. we are going have a war debate in washington in december. martha: the timing is interesting. the airstrikes happened just after congress left. the time can is such they won't be back and debating this until after the mid-term elections,
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correct? >> exactly. this makes the warp a fait accompli. they will be debating something that's ongoing. do you want to tell the president to stop using american forces overseas? that will be a stuff decision for members of congress who wortherwise would oppose something like this. martha: politically do you think this will see a pit after rebound in the -- a bit of a rebound in the polls. you see the missiles coming off these two aircraft carriers. will the president's leadership numbers go up? >> there is excitement when something like this first starts and these are the first strikes in syria. but it will depend on the effectiveness of this. we have been bombing isis in iraq and eight has not exactly decimated isis there. in the clear light of day, after a few days or weeks of this we'll get an idea how effective
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it is and public approval will go up or down depending on that. martha: no doubt the president's critics will be reminding people that it's ever more clear al qaeda is not december made it and not on the run. >> that is the group that's going to want to support stronger u.s. military action perhaps even u.s. combat troops on the ground. we have a lot of members of congress, republicans who want to see that. there is a large segment of the public who that does not want to see ground troops and great u.s. involvement in iraq. so the president is trying to walk a line between those two groups. martha: we'll see what happens next. >> these strikes not just targeting is very but there is another group the white house says was planning an attack at home. we'll tell you about the khorasan group. and does it pose a bigger threat
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bill: the first images we are seeing. this is the damage in northwestern syria near the town of aleppo. there are two different images. the first wave of airstrikes that hit there overnight. this would have been airstrikes targeted dense the group khorasan, strong links to al qaeda. that the u.s. government tells us was in imminent planning for an attack on a u.s. target here at home. the piles of rubble there, the building destroyed. picture near aleppo. wh that we'll share that with you. martha: the u.s. targets terrorists from two different islamic groups.
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these are the pictures from the u.s.s. philippine as it was firing missiles. also the u.s.s.arleigh burke. they say they were facing an i am nanlt threa -- werefacing anm the khorasan group. military officials say they had to move fast. >> this is a very dangerous group of al qaeda and we had good information they were actively plotting and close to the end of that plotting and planning an attack in europe or the u.s. homeland. martha: former new york city mayor rudy giuliani joins me now. you hear stories about this group khorasan. they are vying for for attention
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as well. >> these calls for initiated attacks, self-propelled, jihadist attacks, they don't follow a pattern. they are not using interest national telephone calls being monitored. this is the kind of nightmare for the police department and the fbi and the homeland security people. that somebody makes a big statement like this, you don't know who you are affecting. you could be affecting a crazy person with this kind of thing. this something we have to take very, very seriously. martha: the administration for a while said we are not too concern about the homeland threat issue. what we are more concerned about is isis that wants to build an is tammic state.
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most people have not heard of khorasan. >> that's the result of not having 100,000 troops in iraq and 30,000 troops in afghanistan. when we had 100,000 troops in iraq and 30,000 troops in afghanistan we got a lot more information. no americans are hang around that country, we don't get have much information. that's why i have never supported the withdrawal of the troops. i thought the time line for withdrawing troops is one of the worst ideas i ever heard and i thought the president's' precipitous withdrawal of troops was exceedingly dangerous and one of the things causing this problem. we should have a military presence in the middle east, we should have a military presence in the places where people want to come here and kill us and withdraw the military presence not on a political time line. we should withdraw it when the threat is gone. that's when you end a war. when you win the war.
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martha: not when you want it to be over. >> if the polls determined the civil war we would have left it in 1863 and we never would have entered the second world war because roosevelt didn't have the support for it. martha: there are reports that a lot of people keep leaving dhs and there is low morale in the ranges. >> in this particular case i think president obama has the right guy, jeh johnson. he is an exceptional prosecutor. he's a friend of mine but this is somebody who really knows what he's doing. what he's trying to do is take the defense department discipline and trying to super impose it on dhs and i would give him time to do it. martha: in terms of the
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coalition, where is england, where is egypt? where is turkey? >> they should be there with all of us. this is probably more of a threat to england than the united states. you would think they would be right there with us. and cameron's strong words suggested he would be. maybe this week while the president is in new york he can put together some of these forces. i have also been one that's not big on these international coalitions. we are the strongest military in the world we can do it ourselves if we have to do it and there has to be boots on the dwrownltd. it's ridiculous to say no boots on the ground going and take that threat away. we have boots on the front, just not enough. to do good targeting you need military. you need good information. i think eventually general dempsey will win this fight. martha: name from the past.
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mor.noriega. he'>> he's minor character portrayed as a dictator in fictional circumstances. this would be like bin laden suing for "zero dark thirty." he was convicted in the u.s., france and panama and he wants millions of dollars because he's depicted for 1% of the game. the case should be thrown out of court. it's an offense to free speech and american justice. i'm back to being a lawyer again and i love it. >> martha: thank you, it's always good to see you. bill: we are awaiting the president to speak at the white house. you will see it at the top of the hour. his critics want hipped to take
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bill: we expect the president in a matter of moments. representative peter king, republican very often a critic of the white house calling on the country to come together and support the president. >> i think it's a major step by the president. i think it's importan it's impol the americans to support the president. i have been calling for this for a number of weeks. it is being done. and obviously there are arab nations involved. this is a very, very positive step. i think it's important for all
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of us to come together. watch happened in the past is behind us. it's important that americans as we go forward. support the president and urge them to continue this to make sure these attacks continue and go on so isis has been devastated. bill: rich law lowery, props to the president? he took action. people wanted him to and he did to a degree. >> it's good that he's acting and it's good that he has arab allies. my worry is these limited bombing raids are entirely consistent with a strategy to degrade and not to destroy. to destroy you need forces on the ground. you look at where we are hitting in raqqa and syria, there aren't any good forces on the ground. they are islamic radicals or forces of bashar al-assad. bill: it's a nasty brew that's
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been bubbling for three years. do you support your commander in chief? >> no, i don't. this is a tremendous mistake. peter king probably wouldn't have liked it if obama declared war in a tan suit. he went after him for wearing the wrong suit. we don't live in a country where we have to support what our government does. weaponry, american weapons will get into the wrong hands like they have in iraq. isis is using united states weapons now to go after refugees in turkey. we support the free syrian army. we have the mujahadeen, we have nusra. bill: there are a lot of bad options and what option do you take. you just said the war in syria
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will end in disaster? >> yes. i don't think it's our fight. i don't believe it's a place we should be. the sunnis and shiites have been going off each other for centuries. we got into this for the wrong reasons and we shouldn't go. >> we'll see how ineffectual these strikes are in terms of destroying and rolling back isis. the president will in tech kick the can count road to a successor or he will realize we need boots on the ground to work with sunni h sunni element to rk isis. this is sunni territory and you won't take back that territory with the kurds, or the iraqi army which is a peshmerga force.
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>> you don't say ground troops. we already have advisors on the ground. how do you define a troop? they won't even say the word "war." they have to go to congress and it could be unconstitutional. >> when you say shiia and sunni have been fighting forever that's true. but you haven't had a radical terrorist group occupying a huge swath of territory. what we are saying is we are okay with the islamic state becoming a de facto nation and dismembering syria and iraq. >> that's exact hi what would happen. they are a bunch of neighboring countries. countries whose job it is to do that. around allies saudi arabia and
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thunited arab emirates. >> i think the politics have turned so radically he had to show he was serious and tough. bill: the "new york times" cbs poll a week ago showed how far that drop had occurred and how quickly it happened after the bir --after the first beheadings posted online. >> getting out in front of the public and saying we are bombing these s.o.b.s is probably good politics. >> the president of iran just said it's illegal because we don't have the thorg the authorn from syria to use their air space. bill: what he talked to captain
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nash about how intimate the geography is in this part of the world. you continue to argue whether you should put troops on the ground. i don't know, but i believe the president. his strategy can have a measure of success from the air in terms of getting these isis terrorists on the run. the question then becomes once they hunger down who takes them out. the iraqi army is in tatters. the shiia any la shah is supported by iran. they are not going into these sunni territories. who ultimately will go in there and do that. >> it has to be sunni tribes. they won't rise up and do it on theirer on. they are vetting them, advising them. spotting for them. bill: then you need a conversion on behalf of the sunni tribes.
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>> it happened at the time of the surge. but they probably don't trust us have much anymore because we retreated. >> with the surge we paid them and bought them off. >> pay them some more. martha: president obama is set to speak from the white house just moment from now about the new u.s.-led air campaign against isis in syria. what can what he expect from our commander in chief? more moment away. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today.
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nation general assembly in new york. what do you expect the president to say? >> think mor for a moment aboutt the president is going to go do. he's going to new york to engage in what he said would be a foreign policy priority of his second term which would be global warming. he was going to unite the world against global warming. but before he goes he's obliged to make comments about doing something no one would have imagined him doing, escalating an air war in yet another middle eastern country. striking targets in syria, a country that had once been seen by this president and many in his party as a bridge to overall peace accord in the region. it's striking how he finds himself totally reversed on so
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many things and this moment is a great encapsulation of that. martha: president obama wanted to focus on domestic issues. as we know the world events dictate what a path -- any president has to deal with and that's what's on the plate now for president obama. i also expect he will talk about the others that joined in these airstrikes and hopefully we'll get details of the extent of their commitment. as we all know this is not an overnight mission. it will go on for a long time. i think part of the president's job today will be to ease the minds. other democrats, other liberals who are concerned about what's happening here. they are seeing this and there was a palpable anxiety as you read -- and social media as you watched other networks and heard people talking. there is a lot of allege sight about the president being dragged into a broadening
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conflict he was not prepared to do. he find himself there. part of what he will do is talk about the partners he had but also reemphasize that point that he says yes there will be troops on the ground and more troops on the front but they will not be in a combat role and that role will be fulfilled by somebody else. >> we head to the u.n., discussions with all these world leaders. egypt as well. great britain. where these countries stand, it will be anything how successful this mission is or is not. bill: more details about what we are learning about the airstrikes in syria. the president is about to make this first comments live from the south lawn. and what ultimate hi will happe] next. 9 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, we're not just insuring our lives...
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martha: president obama is about the deliver a statement after a new u.s. coalition has delivered the first wave airstrikes in syria. he will address the u.n. general assembly in new york. you can watch that live with us as well. we'll see what he says when he gets there. bill: the opening salvo coming up in syria as the president promises a lengthy campaign to degrade and destroy the isis army. airstrikes pounded two places in syria overnight. in total 22 strikes carried out.
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tomahawk cruise missiles launched fruvment slawn --launce persian gulf striking the stronghold of isis in syria. bombers and drones all involved in that operation. martha: . separate attacks were launched against khorasan who were reportedly plotting an attack against the united states. >> we are still assessinghe effectiveness of the strikes. martha: special report anchor bret baier in washington. general jack keane and national security course yenlt jennifer griffin joining us. explain what you were learning about the scope and the breadth and the possible success of this
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military operation. >> the most important thing to realize this is not shock and you a. the operation began at 8:30 eastern. the first wave of strikes lasted 90 minutes. the first missiles came from the u.s.s.arleigh burke. and the targets of those airstrikes centered around raqqa and involved isis training camps and hardened targets. the participation of jordan and bahrain and saudi arabia and united arab emirates cannot be understated. the targets included fighters, training compound, headquarters and storage a tilts, a finance center, supply trucks and armed vehicles. the pentagon is carrying out bomb damage assessment. but initial results suggest they
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may have killed an al qaeda liaison who was wanted according to the u.s. rewards for justice. martha: the khorasan attacks is an al qaeda offshoot separate from isis. >> reporter: mention of the 8 separate airstrikes that targeted fighters from the khorasan group, a rival to isis. what is significant here is that the arab coalition members did not take part in this part of the mission. centcom went out of its way to make that point. the pentagon said it was done to disrupt an imminent attack on the u.s. homeland but until now has provided no evidence to support those claims. just last week officials
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testified to congress there was no imminent threat to the homeland. that's not what the white house and pentagon began saying yesterday, martha. bill: for more on this i want to bring in our colleague bret baier. you have been in touch with your sources overseas. what are they telling you what's important, what happened overnight and how they assess this mission so far. >> a couple of things. one jennifer points out the fact that these arab allies are part of the strike is significant. but as far as assessing the damage, talking to a senior u.s. official who knows this and is intimately involved in this assessment. he said that it's accurate too say the strikes resulted in infrastructure being taken out for the group isis. but the challenge there is that obviously they can go from building to building. they did take out training
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facilities. he said it's a little too early to exactly say who all was killed as jennifer pointed out. there was one person hat has been identified. they believe they killed in this group. and the tough part is that once you have one of these rounds of strikes, the enemy adapts and goes to ground. and the leadership will then go into urban centers and that's where the real next challenge comes. this first night was a lot of hard targets. stuff they could see that intelligence surveil yngs and -- surveillance and reconnaissance flights could pinpoint. but you have to have people on the ground that are able to get you more targets. the biggest challenge we'll have long term is finding targets. bill: what information do you have, bret, as to whether this is a one-off deal or is this
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something that we can expect to continue tonight? >> reporter: they said they may have several days of these hard targets and even targets that develop based on the strikes last night. so i think you could see this day after day for at least a few days. but as far as targets beyond that, that requires some more intelligence on the ground and that's the challenge. right now we are to believe that we do not have any u.s. forces in any way, shape or form on the ground. i don't know, you know, there may be some on the ground that we don't know about. but as far as the free syrian army, they are not trained to be our eyes and ears. bill: you speak with people directly in washington who deal with u.s. intelligence. how do they character size. -- how do they characterize how good our intelligence is in syria today?
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>> reporter: that's a tough one to answer. they don't have a lot of eyes and ears from what we understand. but it's not a place that is so closed off that they can't get some intelligence out of there. that's the biggest challenge is to be able to get in to figure out where these guys are and where their hideouts are. as for the president. he's probably going to couch his arab sane-on and that's a significant thing for this administration considering all the places we have been about coalition building. it's only five countries, but they are five arab countries and that sends a signal that's significant. bill: in a political sense what's the potential for backlash here? is he going to hear it from the left in his party? or is he going to get -- are you going get this sense of unity saying we have to be behind our
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commander in chief. he made the call. >> reporter: i think there will and hotter-term unity as hard as that is to believe in a place like washington this close to mid-term elections. how long that unity lasts we'll see. as jennifer pointed out, a great point about this thing that isis and these terrorist threats were not imminent. now suddenly last week we hear about the khorasan group and suddenly now it's imminent and we had to take them out last night. this after we heard ad nauseam there was no threat from isis or the groups over there. i think that's one people will ask a lot of questions about today. bill where we are watching the south lawn, martha. martha: lots to think about and great points brought up. we are waiting for the montana. we are joined by retired general
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jack keane. good to have you here. i know you feel there is great significance in the country's that flew with us last night. now that we have a little bit more information what is your take on how it all went? >> i think given the precision-guided munitions. we have a 98% chance of hitting within 30 meeters of the target. i think the information from bomb damage assessment will be very good. it's very significant and also historic because we have clearly sunni countries attacking a sunni-based terrorist organization with the united states. that's never happened before. they have clearly stepped up here. they all have radical islamist movements inside their countries that have always pen a concern of theirs. but the fact of the matter is here they are and they made the commitment and they should be
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applaud for it. >> martha: what do you think turned the tide to alloy that tt to happen. >> the menacing threat isis poses. they tried to get our attention about that. when they saw the iraq military collapse as quickly as they did which they had to regard for. these countries that are participating are very close to isis right now. they know isis is sincere in its regional goals of establishing a large caliphate that goes beyond syria and iraq. and they know it's a threat to them and that's why they are here. martha: are the airstrikes going to get a lot of people's attention and it may help this coalition to bond if there is sort of groabl positive feel being this coalition. they can get together and do the work that needs to be done. but what do you do to follow up? they will scatter underground fan go into population centers.
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>> it's not going to be that easy. they have done that since the president made his speech to protect and conceal. i think al-baghdadi miscalculated. when we didn't do airstrikes as a result of the chemical red line. i think he assumed he could establish a large sanctuary and put the majority of support infrastructure in there and we would not come after him. after the president's speech 11 days ago he recognized he had a problem. and here we are, he has a big problem. a lot of this infrastructure can't be hit. some of it can. you can always hide people. but we'll continue to have targets. and i think it's significant -- the scale of this offensive air operation does not compare to previous ones in iraq or afghanistan or kosovo. we were attacking a country's infrastructure.
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that's not the case here. but the fact is we conducted more air strikes last night than we did on any single day since the air campaign dan in iraq. we'll continue to attack as long as there are targets. march already we see the president walking out. general jack keane. well speak with you later. the president is going to board the helicopter later we are told. not directly after this statement. but clearly he has something to share with the american people about the airstrikes he authorized last night that took place in two major sections of syria. west of aleppo hitting the khorasan group and the isis group as well. >> america's armed forces began strikes against isil targets in syria. today the american people give thanks for the extraordinary service of our men and women in uniform including the pilots who flew these missions with the courage and professionalism we
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have come to expect from the finest military the world has ever known. earlier this month i outlined for the american people our strategy to confront the threat posed by the terrorist group known as isil. i made clear as part of this campaign the united states would take action dense targets in iraq and syria. these terrorists can't find safe haven anywhere. i also made clear america would act as part after broad coalition and that what's we have done. we were joined by our friends and partners, saudi arabia, united arab emirates jordan, bahrain and qatar. america is proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with these nations for our common security. this is not america's fight alone. above all the people in governments and people in the middle east are rejecting isil and standing up information the peace and security that the people of the region and the world deserve.
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meanwhile, we'll move forward with our plans supported by bipartisan that joarts? congress to equip and train the syrian opposition and more broadly off 40 nations have offered to help in this comprehensive effort to confront this terrorist threat, to take out terrorist targets, to train and equip iraqi and syrian opposition fighters who are going up against is i will * on the ground, to cut off isil financing, to counter its hateful ideology and to stop the fighters in and out of the region. we also took strikes to stop plotting against the united states by the khorasan group in syria. it must be clear to anyone who what plot dense america and try to do americans harm that we'll not tolerate safe havens for
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terrorists who threaten our people. i have spoken to leaders in congress and i'm pleased there is bipartisan support for the actions we are taking. mayor case always stronger when we stand united and we'll do what's necessary to defend our country. over the next several days while have the opportunity to meet with prim prime minister badi in rawrk. the overall effort will take time. there will be challenges ahead but we'll do what's necessary to take the fight to this terrorist group. for the security of the country and the region and for the entire world. thanks, good bless our troops. god bless america. martha: an effort to shout a question as the president walks away. we were told he would go back
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into the white house before heading on to marine one. he addressed the broad coalition. 22 of them all together. 14 going after isis in the raqqa area of northern syria and 8 that went against the khorasan group. he says no threat against the united states will go unanswered and any terrorist group that threatened the homeland should understand they will be met with the same kind of fate as the strikes that happened last night. bret baier is standing by having listened to all of this with us. he also spoke wit spoke -- spoke support he has gotten in congress. >> he has with the training and equipping of the syrian army. i thought it was striking how brief the statement was. how really kit wasn't that detailed. the president set we are always stronger when we stand united. he obviously singled out the
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arab allies who helped. and said the overall effort will take time. but it was not an impassioned speech to rally anyone. it's cut and dry. this is what i said we are going to do and this is what we are doing. interesting in its delivery and its timing. we were told it would be 10 minutes. i don't think it was five. martha: it was very brief and the president headed back in. we know he will be heading to the u.n. later this afternoon. there were not a lot of details about what's to come either. i guess perhaps there is a good reason for that because when don't want to telegraph our actions anymore than we already have. but we did see these strikes last night. we wonder whether we will see them tonight and what's to follow. perhaps the president believes saying lessen saying more at this point. he will have other opportunities to address this in the broad scope of things.
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and at the united nations security council and with allies in new york city, clearly this is a broader fight. he touched on that about going after the funding and the backing of isil as he calls them or isis. and it's interesting he mentioned the khorasan group. this is the group their's believed was work on none metallic explosives possibly for airliners to get u.s. passport holders or european passport holders on mules to carry these exploressives and conduct an a -- carry these explosives and conduct attacks. it was cut and dried. i'm sure we'll hear more about the broader plan in new york. martha: the administration has been vehement about the fact they didn't believeth was an
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imminent threat from the homeland, then suddenly we heard there was. and the strikes happened quite quickly last night. bill: we want to go back to the map and show you what we believe happened in central command out of tampa. the capital city of damascus down here and the dark green. the dark green represents assad and the government forces as in fighting the opposition for the past three years. this light green section here represents a lot of the opposition against assad. it also represents some of these al qaeda fighters in groups like khorasan. also the al-nusra front operating in aleppo in the northwest. the yellow shade is where isis is operating out of. they declared the town of raqqa as their temporary capital for now in eastern syria. they share this long bored with iraq to th --they share this loh
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iraq to the east. the air strikes in aleppo were going after core southern. the hard fighters the government tells us were planning attacks on the united states. we mention this nasty brew. and there are a lot of bad options, frankly. the question is when know what option do you take to make the least worst of those bad options. the second question is what happens tonight? does this continue or does it not? martha: as we have seen with al qaeda before, hitting the areas they hit west of aleppo may or may not disable this group. so obviously our intelligence folks at home have a lot on their plate as well. the pentagon releasing stunning video of these airstrikes that happened overnight inside syria.
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these pictures look like the trailer from a movie but they are very real and they are what happened off the coast of syria overnight launched from u.s. ships. reminiscent from the first gulf war that was watched playing out live on cable television. be the first go-pro war. how will these pictures and the social media showing all these actions influence public opinion here at home. great panel coming up here on that next. >> it many the right thing to take action against isis and you will have to hit them in syria because that's where they headquartered themselves and they came from syria into iraq. you have to take action against them there.
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>> earlier this month i outlined for the american people our strategy to confront the threat posed by the terroist group known as isil. i made clear as part of this campaign the united states would take action against targets in both iraq and syria. so that these terrorists can't find safe haven anywhere. i also made clear that america would act as part of a broad coalition and that is exactly what we've done. bill: that was the statement from the south lawn moments ago. ed henry here in new york. you're here for the u.n. we will see a lot of you this week, good for us. good morning to you. short and sweet. some thought it would go ten minutes. perhaps it clocked in at 3 1/2 or four. does that suggest anything to you about a desire or a willingness or what? >> reporter: you know, he was reluctant to get involved here. he has been reluctant to get involved in syria for three
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years. that is just a fact of the it is not a criticism. think about last night couple hours before the announcement of airstrikes. the white house making a big announcement from white house, tax inversions, big democratic campaign issue. today what is the president doing in new york, talking about climate change, another big priority. he would rather much talk about the big legacy items for him, immigration reform, you name it, it is being crowded out because national security crises is running out of ideas. he is running out of time to work on issues he wants to work on because the world forced him to deal wit. bill: you look at that "new york times" poll from seven or 10 days ago, that shows where the american people are on this. >> he has got to act. bill: not just that, they don't know what the group is all about and frankly they're concerned. could he not afford to act? >> he had to act. i think he has been saying in private, you saw the other "new york times" piece a couple weeks ago, what he was telling people, columnist and otherred
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off the record, the beheadings really rallied american public opinion to say you have got to do something. i find it also fascinating the president mentioned a threat from khorasan. most americans don't know what the group is about. as jennifer griffin pointed out last week u.s. officials were downplaying threat from the terror group and now use adjustification for war. president was talking about, al qaeda on the run. after shoots and affiliates are jv squad. we have to worry about them. they could be a threat. they're a jv squad, trying to be kobe bryant with a laker uniform. now they're being used for justification for war, big deal. bill: why has that changed do you think. >> i think these groups turned out to be a lot more violent or dangerous than the administration ever expected. look in the mirror. not like we've been covering torah sawn. he is the commander. in chief -- khorasan. maybe he downplayed them for a while. now it is real. bill: how did we miss that then?
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>> there will be fingers pointed at intelligence community. bill: do you believe that? >> there is no doubt about it. the intelligence community might say back, we were raising concerns out here and the white house didn't pay attention. that will be a fight in the days ahead. right now we've got to worry about airstrikes and what comes next. were people raising that flag or not. bill: part b in your answer was whether or not the administration was listening. >> we don't know the answer to that yet. there have been suggestions from catherine herridge and others in their excellent reporting look, a year ago, in the president's daily intelligence brief there were questions about isis. watch this group. now we didn't see that intelligence brief. was it saying hey, this out there or was it saying red light, red light blinking let's do something? there is a big difference there in fairness. bill: the other thing you said we don't know what is next. >> the of the said himself, when tom friedman interviewed him a few weeks ago, he said his biggest failure in foreign policy he mentioned libya. we helped liberate the libyan
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people. stop massacres and all of this you about the next day, we didn't really have a plan. he said, he and our british allies and others. what is next here? have they learned the lesson? bill: i'm out of time, based on what you have learned from the white house so far, is this something we can expect to happen again tonight or not? >> bret was suggesting it is likely to go on for some time but not a week or two, but at least a couple of days, because they want to decimate and defeat isis, right? we don't have ground troops to follow up on airstrikes to get the gains. you have to do as much bombing as you can. syrian rebels are not ready to do job on the ground. bill: very i will intel on the ground as well. ed, thank you. martha? martha: lots of questions raised on that. five arab nations joining the united states sending warplanes to help conduct the battle against isis. pentagon scheduling a news conference we're learning b. we'll bring you there live.
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>> we all recognize isil can not be defeated if it is not defeated regionally by nations in the region, everybody chipping in and participating. again i want to give great credit to general austin in central command for putting together this terrific coalition operation yesterday. having five arab nations join us in this effort is not insignificant and i think something to be commended.
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launching our first airstrikes against isis targets inside of syria and that happened overnight. extraordinary pictures from the uss burke. u.s. says five arab nations provided support in this mission. president will try to forge worldwide support as he goes to the u.n. general assembly over the course of this week. we find eric shawn outside midtown manhattan. what is the reaction on the airstrikes. >> we're getting reaction, iranian president met with reporters at his hotel right across the street from the united nations. he is now inside of the u.n. at meetings and rouhani reportedly calling these airstrikes illegal, not authorized and violation of international law. we expect some other reaction to come in later today. what is significant is half an
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hour from now secretary of state john kerry will be meeting with the foreign minister from turkey. turkey of course part of the coalition but did not, we're told participate in the airstrikes last night. turkey critics claim has help the support isis, encouraged it by the financing, illegal oil sales and now faces that humanitarian crisis of 100,000 refugees pouring across the syrian border into turkey. we'll see what comes out of that meeting with mr. kerry in about half an hour from now. we're also waiting for arrival of russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. lavrov previous to these airstrikes also said they would be illegal if the assad government was not involved or notified or a part of this but there are some conciliatory words from the ambassador. in an interview he said, quote, for us the threat of terrorism was a major concern which we will need to face together. this is what we need to handle, in order to handle it we need to work together. in order to work together we need to take into account our
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interests. that reference to moscow's support of assad's government. we're told that the assad government was told prior to these airstrikes. the u.s. government, the administration notifying the syrian u.n. ambassador here that those airstrikes were about to happen. last night we'll see when love love -- lavrov comes if that satisfies the russian concerns. >> very interesting point. president obama will speak at the u.n. tomorrow. what do we expect, eric? >> he will be there later today for the climate change session, the summit addressing that issue. all eyes are on the security council meeting tomorrow. unusual step where the president of the united states will chair the security council meeting. the rotation of the presidency of security council by 15 members countries every month. september happens to be the month that the u.s. is the president of the security council. expect that resolution to be voted on and passed. that will basically go after
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jihadist international terrorism by trying to choke off financing for isis, deal with the travel bans for all those foreign fighters, estimated 15,000 that flooded into irsyria or iraq trying to help the islamic state and deal with radicalization. global leaders are trying to deal, martha, with the threat of radical islamic jihad that is really the crisis and basic issue now of our time. back to you. martha: unavoidable. indeed it is. thank you very much. bill: stephen hayes, "weekly standard" writer and fox news contributor. good morning to you. wow, a pick up on eric shawn's last point, what does he say tomorrow? what is his address about? how does he explain where we are and where we're heading? >> i certainly think the president will emphasize this is a common enemy. one of the things he will want to do particularly in front of the u.n. general assembly emphasize that this is not the united states fight alone as we
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heard him say a few moments ago but a broader fight for many nations. that will be the emphasis of his speech tomorrow. how this was a coalition, we had five arab partners with the united states. maybe not all dropping bombs but at least participating in the strikes one way or another. then he will ask for further support i think from not only the arab coal significance but others around the world in, fighting what he will call a common enemy. bill: so many involved in this too. jennifer griffin said make sure you don't think this is shock and awe last night because it was far from that. maybe a bit of a shock but not a whole lot of awe. we don't know what happens tonight or in the coming week. having said that you tweeted an houring a this group, khorasan, is more important in terms of targeting than isis. now why would that be, steve? >> well, khorasan group is composed of leaders that have come from the afghanistan-pakistan area and the reason that i think those
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strikes were more important an than the hit on fixed targets in raqqa where isis was headquartered, they may have taken out some leaders. these were surprise strikes against the khorasan group. i think it is fair to say they probably didn't know they were coming whereas isis sort of had advanced notice we would likely targeting them. the president has been talking about it publicly for weeks. just in terms of leadership, that is probably going to be the more important of the two attacks that took place last night. bill: a lot of this is tied together, as you know. i want to bou of iran because a lot of people are concerned behind closed doors we're doing a deal with iranian leadership. in exchange for that we're cutting a deal on nuclear program yet again that would delay accountability of tehran and what its true ambitions are. are you concerned about that? as you answer that, why do we need help from iran on isis in the first place? that is shia.
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that is not sunni. so why would we even do a horse trade there, if at all? >> i'm not sure we need help from iran and i certainly wouldn't do a horse trade. i'm very concerned what we might be giving iran or what we might not be doing, what we might not be insisting on from iran with respect to nuclear negotiations because of their, you know, whether, whether acknowledged or even tacit support or refusal to interfere with what the united states is doing with respect to isis. it has long been a priority of this administration to strike a nuclear deal. we know that the deal is important to barack obama and that we've been willing to, we as a country, we as an administration willing to concede, make concessions, almost preemptively with iran, so that we can get to this deal. so i have a great deal of concern that in the context of this, with iran coming to the united states and saying in effect, we'll help you with isis or at least we'll not interfear with isis for some goodwill,
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maybe looking the other way in the context of the nuclear negotiations. that that might be a deal that the administration would jump on and i think we saw maybe a hint of that with another adversary, a recent adversary with comments you read from the russians where the russians are making some conciliatory gestures with respect to the united states on this specific question of assad and isis, because of course we know that russia has got things that they're pursuing in the ukraine. so, i think we're likely to see pressure from both iran and from russia on the administration for their immediate priorities in exchange for really not meddling with the united states on behalf of their client in syria. bill: three-way chess, isn't it? >> it sure is. bill: we'll work that point. i don't know how you get iran that supports these iraqi militias to go after sunni terrorists. i still don't see how that happens if it comes to that but,
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steve, thank you. steven hayes out of washington. a lot more to talk about in the very near future. thank you, steve. >> thanks, bill. martha: all this makes the upcoming update from the pentagon very much worth watching today as the u.s. launch as blazing air campaign against isis in syria, all of this coming to us in full hd. could we be seeing first, call it gopro youtube war? we'll talk about that with a great panel and what the implications of that might be coming up.
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martha: all right. we are now late waiting for a live briefing at the pentagon we'll take you to live of course, as the united states expands its airstrikes against isis, this time going across the border into syria overnight for the first time. think about this for a moment. as our technology becomes more advanced, the video images that the world will see of this whole thing become starkly more dramatic. watch some of this.
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martha: wow, that is pretty incredible, is it not? stunning images as the u.s. fires tomahawk missiles into syria overnight. major change which we all watched iraq war. look at images from 1991. we remember how grainy they were and how hard to see. we thought it was extraordinary we could watch war playing out live on our cable television screens. remember that? i'm joined by david webb, host
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of david webb radio show on siriusxm patriot. columnist for "the hill." leslie marshall. radio talk show host. both fox news contributors. i was struck by this, good to have you both here this morning. it struck me that this will be the first war to watch played played out on youtube. the cameras were placed all over the ship. the angles are cinematic and it will have impact what the world sees, will it not? david, let me start with you. >> yes, it will, martha. i saw the first gulf war play out as you saw on tv. not so much imagery, but hd brings a whole new clarity from visual point of view but also what it can be used for. it can be used to demonstrate both to our enemies and our allies what we're doing. on the other side we should be concerned about what isis, who are very skilled at social media, very skilled at using their versions of say gta 5,
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"grand theft auto" to push recruitment effort. what they do, to counter of them frankly images of them being destroyed. look at might we demonstrate coming off the arleigh burke or george w. bush or uss philippine sea. we're showing command position from the bridge which demonstrates what we're capable of doing. martha: you're so right about that. and, leslie, as david rightly points out, this reaction we're seeing it is possible it might not have happened at this point had it not been for awful videos we saw of beheadings of american and british citizens. that element of this has been extremely powerful for this enemy as well. >> oh, definitely. david, one cocktail together and now we're in agreement 100%? >> you finally come over to the right side. >> no, no. i think this is what we're, seeing here, this morning we have a united states of america on this issue and we have united world against this enemy.
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and i think, when you have isis tweeting with people and 20-somethings worldwide perceiving these murderers being cool, if you will, it is essential that this imagery is out. not only showing that the united states does what it says, regardless who our leader is, quite frankly. look at the might of our military. don't mess with us. but, this is the bad of isis. this is good of the united states and its allies worldwide. we're united in the world, fighting this enemy of isis and terrorism. i think that is a good thing. although there are some bad things. if isis does, edit, that they have done very well, quite frankly, they should be going into that business, people in some of these countries, we have to be very, very careful, people of syria and iraq do not perceive the war to be on them, their religion, culture, or even their country, but rather terrorist activities and groups, al qaeda veterans, khorasan group, isis, rather than them the people. martha: absolutely. social media is so powerful
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right now. we saw what it did in the april spring, sweeping across the middle east. almost as if, david, you need to have an arm of this effort be focused on all of that as well, as well as military part. as well as political part. extremely powerful force in the world now. >> yes, it is, martha. there is broader context when it comes to fighting a cyber war. we effectively advanced our cyber capabilities. we need to combine that with social media. we need to suppress their ability to broadcast and transmit, lock down as many services as possible. need to fight the wars and ones and zeros behind the scenes. we need to use the public war to go out and show the decimation of them. this is not local problem in the middle east. this is no global problem. whether al qaeda or boko haram, this is how it is playing out. we heard from the nigel faraj
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who may be the next prime minister in england or look what happened in australia recently where dozens of muslim radicals were rounded up because they were planning a public beheadings of we have to engage in a war militarily and socially, to crush them. war is about wing. not about what other people think we're doing. martha: leslie, a quick thought from you before we go, about your reaction to all of this. i know you have been against us starting another war in this area or engaging in one i should say. >> well, quite frankly, you can not ignore, i mean it is the commander chief's job to protect this country and its people here and abroad. i don't think the president had a choice. not just with the beheadings. isis, very quickly went from being local, then regional. with global aspirations. now they're global. and they also went very quickly, from, you know, quite frankly, in size they have grown, having
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bill: we are minutes away from a pentagon briefing live. we'll bring that now a moment here. want to tell you what jennifer griffin is reporting from the pentagon. give me a moment here, guys. she is saying of five sunni countries that participated in this raid last night in two different locations in syria, only five took place, qatar was the one that did not drop any ordnance or bops on the ground. that means the u.a.e. did, saudi arabia, jordan and bahrain. genevieve woods, contributor for the daily signal and heritage foundation contributor. thanks for being patient in
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washington. national defense is a big topic for you in your life. time to give props for the commander-in-chief taking action right now? >> everybody is behind the president and the country on this we've all known from the get-go, this is place it would not just be about iraq but there would be problems in syria. bill, i think we do have to be cautious. we see the video coming out. the last segment get very impressed by war power the country has, nothing wrong with that, but let's not forget syria is not even the main target now, dealing with getting isis out of iraq and getting rid of isis period. we have to keep our eye on the ball what the larger picture is. as impressive what we saw last night, the reality is it is likely going to take much more than airstrikes. eventually will take more than just five coalition partners the president announced this morning that were part of these airstrikes in syria. it will take a larger front and it is not going to be something done in all could have weeks.
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this is a long battle, a long war. the president still hasn't laid out as much i would like to see what happened last night. maybe we'll see more. he is probably waiting for more details to come in. very, it is about time we took action. would i have liked to have seen it a little sooner. glad to see what i saw last night. bill: in 10 seconds or less, will he not stop until isis is defeated? >> the president doesn't have any choice, bill. he has got to defeat this enemy, whether on his watch or others. this is an ongoing, long battle. we've got to stamp them out no matter how long it takes and no matter what military action it takes. bill: genevieve wood, out of washington across the river from you. that should begin any moment now. martha: getting mics ready to go for a live briefing in the moment the pentagon. that will be the first assessment of last night's airstrikes. we'll find out how effective they were. get you more information coming back here in "america's newsroom" on busy, busy tuesday.
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