>> i certainly picked a full day of news to join you. >> we're glad to have you here. we'll be back. >> in an hour, right. >> thanks for joining us. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> we begin with the u.s. military releasing video of the intense air strike campaign inside syria and we just heard from the pentagon. that brefing wrapping up just a few minutes ago on live fox news and also in the past hour or so, the president addressed the nation. what's happened overnight is important for us to know is the first u.s. air strike, began raining bombs on islamic extremists in syria. we hit their base of operations and not just isis but another terror group, one that many intelligence officials say could be a bigger direct threat to americans here at home. this is "outnumbered."

kennedy and today's hashtag one lucky guy making the rest of us lucky, actor, producer, author and hercules, kevin. >> keep going. >> i remind you, you're outnumbered. >> i am. i like that. >> can you lift the couch with your biceps? >> i can. >> what with about one hand? >> yeah. >> there's a lot going on. let's get right to it. after weeks of speculation and anticipation, the u.s. is joined by five arab nations launching overnight the first air strikes as i mentioned against islamic extremists inside syria. it could be, we understand, a long mission at this point. we hit targets from sea and air, including missiles and precision guided bombs from stealth bombers, drones and war ships. we're going off the isis terrorist safe havens in eastern syria and then this. we're targeting another ter or

group, a rival of isis made up of elite inner circle of veterans. pentagon is plotting imminent attacks on america right here at home. speaking from the pentagon, just a few minutes ago, lieutenant general, joint staff director of operations in syria. he was asked during the briefing if these air strikes were just the beginning of a prolonged campaign. here is what he said. >> as far as what targets and future operations, i would like to not comment on what our anythings page is other than to say you're seeing the beginnings of a sustained campaign and strikes like this in the future can be expected. >> chief security correspondent is live with the news from the pentagon. jen? >> we just came out of that first auon the record briefing since u.s. officials. lieutenant mayville is the director of operations at the pentagon. >> we're still assessing the

effects of our strikes but we've been watching this group closely for some time. we believe the grup was nearly the execution phase of the attack either in europe or the homeland. we know that the group has attempted to recruit westerners to serve as operatives or infiltrate back into their homelands. >> again val mayville just finished speaking. the majority of the wave of strikes at 8:30 eastern last night were unilateral american tomaha tomahawks. in terms of arab involvement, the united arab emirates flew four m 16 fighter jets, saudi arabia four f-16 fighter jets, bahrain two f-16s, qatar flew

french mirage 2,000s but did not drop bombs. arab coalition members were involved in the third phase of the air strikes. we're told that the syrian air defenses remained passive. general mayville reiterated there were no plans right now to put u.s. ground troops on the ground. he ruled out from the podium here at the pentagon today any u.s. ground troops. in terms of what we should expect from now, he said that this is not an operation to think of in terms of days and weeks. it's an operation that will go on for years. >> you know, i'm just wondering as you talk about again this language about how we're not going to put combat boots on the ground, if you will, my curiosity lies in this. i understand now that we've hit them, they're running and getting cozy with the civilians, right? they're taking cover. that's going to make them harder to hit.

>> that's absolutely typical. while we've been talking about isis in terms of it being an army, in fact, what happens is as soon as the first air strikes were launched, they go back to being a terrorist group and they will do what every terrorist insurgency does and that's blend in with the local civilian operation and that makes targeting extremely difficult and it also makes air strikes limited in terms of their value and in terms of how much more the u.s. will be able to do or the arab allies. without boots on the ground, without being able to track them in the urban areas, separate them from civilians, they'll be hiding behind civilians. those civilians essentially will serve as human showeds and protect the isis fighters. that's the question i asked at the briefing moments ago. i asked general mayville what makes this difference from wham a mole, if you're going to carry out air strikes and since the free syrian army you're supposed to work with is going to take a

year to train the free syrian army which is only going to be 5,000 strong once it's trained anyway. >> perhaps the biggest surprise in all of this -- this is sandra, by the way -- for the u.s. to get the arab nations on board. will turkey be on board or get on board knowing that isis is holding about 50 turks hostage? >> what's interesting, sandra, is those turks were released over the weekend. it's not clear why they were released. the turkish president who is in new york for the general assembly, u.n. general assembly, he indicated no money had changed hands but he did not rule out the fact that a prisoner exchange had occurred. so the turks clearly were not involved in the beginning because of those hostages, some of them were children of diplomats who were taken inside iraq. they were released this weekend. now the question is, are the turks going to step up their nato member? the president was under a lot of pressure in new york at the council on foreign relations last night.

>> and turkey also is being really overridden, if you will, by people who are taking refuge as hundreds or up to 100,000 have come across the border there, too. it complicates matters there, too. we'll bring you back as news is made. we appreciate it. thank you very much. the big question today, are we, in fact, at war? the administration, as you know, has been sending mixed messages about that regarding defeating isis and just two weeks ago, the president and secretary of state john kerry repeatedly insisted our mission against the islamic militants was not war but a counterterrorism operation. when pressed on the sunday shows, a few days later, we saw secretary kerry walk that back saying we are at war with isis. earlier today on fox news, this from pentagon spokesman admiral john kirby. >> we've been saying that for quite some time. i said that a week or so ago. we're at war with isil the same way we are with al qaeda. >> we're all on the same page,

andrea. >> have you told the white house that? have they gotten the memo? we've always been at war. we've been at war with radical islam for hundreds of years. the disconnect is the department of defense that's known about this threat for a long time staying consistent. the c.i.a. has known we're at war. the white house has resisted, we know, for political reasons. i'm delighted to see the air strikes today. it is a bit of a surprise but that's okay. they don't have to tell us everything they're doing. but the question of boots on the ground, this could be a devastating air campaign. if we can get the syrian army, not the free syrian army, asad's army and the kurds to move and eradicate isis and force them out, that's the big question. people talk about the free syrian army which is different. forget them. it's useless. we're not going to get them stood up and ready to go in a year. it's not going to happen. so we really have to start thinking about whether or not we consult with asad. i keep saying that over and

over. >> you ever been saying that. >> however, we have a shared goal and that is -- >> a common enemy. >> common enemy, shared goal in defeating isis and asad is not friend of the united states. >> i would say this, too, real quickly along with what andrea is saying. we saw isis through their propaganda is reaching out and saying look to the free syrian rebels, that army in syria, look. america turned its back on you. do you want to fight with these guys? i want to get your thoughts. >> you're right. it's politics as usual. for so long now, how long has our president said the war is over, the war is over, the war is over. i took all our troops out of iraq. everybody knew, even low citizens like myself, that these guys are still out there and still coming together to come and get us. there is a common enemy. they talked about all the different branches of it. to me it's all the same. there's one ultimate goal for these guys and that's to kill us. >> they're enemies of each other. >> i want to connect you.

the enemy of the enemy is not my friend. asad is not our friend. turkey is not our friend. they seem to not only be enhancing, they're supporting isis. they're allowing fighters to go through that turkey-syria border into syria. that's how journalists have gotten into syria and that's how westerners have gotten into syria. however, whether it's kurds or turks, people who want to unite and fight isis, turkey is not allowing them to do that and they're a nato partner. qatar, you ever someone changes the name but of our allies in the region, turkey should be our most. >> where is europe helping this? >> we should not expect turkey to come to our side. turkey has an islamic government. they have links to terror organizations. >> and asad, i would say is our frenemy. >> the sunni nations we've been able to bring on board, you'll

notice that qatar didn't drop any bombs. they flew some french planes. >> they gave us hot towels and appetizers. >> i want to ask you real quickly, because to get your libertarian view on this, because i've kind of heard you talk almost in opposition of what we're doing over there at first. do you feel better now that we kind of have a plan? >> do we have a plan? i don't know that we do have a plan. i don't feel better because i don't think we have a plan. if you have the state department, the pentagon and the white house that can't agree on the term war, do we have a plan? i think that's putting warriors in danger. >> the effectiveness of these air strikes are diminished. isis is going to learn, they're going to adapt. >> they're already doing it. >> they're going to be very limited in their effectiveness short-term so strategy, meantime, is air strikes but what then? >> that's a great question. what then? >> it's been operating under the radar. >> they're jealous of isis. >> we talked ground troops and

really big question mark, would they reconsider after again doubling down from the pentagon today saying no ground troops? we'll continue to follow this and as the news happens, of course, we'll bring it to you. a frightening warning in all of this for americans. senior administration official confirming some u.s. citizens who witness overseas to fight with isis, those savages, have now come back to american soil. how that happened and what will be done about those guys. plus the baltimore ravens owner insisting nobody from his team will be fired over the handling of the ray rice scandal. where is the accountability? we'll take a look. and right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. join us by logging on to outnumbered. tell us what you want to talk about. we are here for you. and we'll bring you into the conversation. stay close. (vo) rush hour around here

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official says the f.b.i. is on their tail. here is former new york city mayor rudy giuliani blasting the white house. >> unfortunately, this is a situation isis that we were quite really with our hands down not knowing enough about them, not having enough intonation about them. since we have no troops or maybe the 1600 we just put in, you know, for a couple of years now we've been getting much less information than when we had a major military presence in the area of the world where people plan to come and kill us. >> so i don't agree with a major military presence in the middle east but that aside, kennedy, mayor rudy giuliani saying our pants were down. are our pants up? how did we not know our pants were down the whole time? we've been getting warnings of radicals. we saw the boston bombing happen. why have they been telling us this is not a threat? why the mixed messages?

do you feel better they're acknowledging it, the white house? >> they're acknowledging that the fighters are back here? >> yes. >> i don't want them anywhere near here. go over there, fight, die, i'm totally good with that. if you're going to be a traitor, take responsibility for your actions and put yourself in the line of fire. totally good with that. don't come back here, don't go to malls, don't do things here. the question is, are they more dangerous once they become more radical sized overseas? i don't necessarily think so. i don't want them here. >> are you confident that they can hunt them down and find them? i think there's a lot of people who are dedicated to it but if you look in new york city, we were spying on a lot of these mosques here, destroying terror cells. now with the mayor, we've stopped doing a lot of that stuff. rudy giuliani isn't mayor any more. >> my pants are not caught down. they're up. >> at least people on this program. >> but i've always known they're here in our country. if they're talking about -- i read somewhere they know 100 of

these guys are back in country. if they know the number, do they know who they are? >> they know who they are. >> then we don't go after them until they behead somebody? it's amazing to me we're not doing what we should be doing. >> does it trouble you a little bit? because we've heard and talked about this on the show, some folks in the administration saying isis is a threat to the homeland and others saying no. >> you know, andrea, you and i have talked about this one specific case in new jersey that just breaks our hearts. that young man who was taken out at an intersection not too long ago by the suspect now that we know is on a jihad mission. and had trained with some of these guys over there and come back and i argue they do become more radicalized because it's kind of like being in, if you will, home room with the terrorists where everybody is focused in on one thing and you come back here and carry out the mission. it's very interesting. we have known for awhile that these guys were masking it.

did we have our pants down? i question how good is our intel these days? >> great point. it was about this time during the show last week when the president was speaking and he specifically told the american people that our intelligence community does not have specific evidence of specific plots against the united states by any terrorists. he was specifically referencing isis. don't say that. there are plots and you're ak no, ma'amminging that you don't know of them, that only empowers them. i find that very conflicting. >> he changed his verbiage this morning and now they're saying there were imminent threats. that's why they hit the al qaeda cell of veteran jelly beans. >> this is headed up by a guy who had full knowledge because he was in such the tight inner circle with osama bin laden of 9/11 before it happened. i just want to put that out there. so you can understand the type of mentality this other group

has. isis is a threat but the reason they think this is an imminent one, their leader came from that kind of fabric. >> when you look at the way they're using social media and the internet to radicalize, al qaeda and isis doesn't work like a team. the team means you wear a jersey and train in the old fashioned way. you don't have to wear the jersey s jersey anymore. >> our defense budget that be so cut down over the decades. it's really unfortunate. >> that's not true. >> that's not true? >> that's not true. no. defense spending has gone up. that's a total misnomer. >> really? what are we doing with that? >> we don't spend money smartly on defense. that's the problem. >> maybe they're playing angry birds. they think they're bombing something. >> there are people who want to change it to g.d.p. i don't think that's necessary. >> andrea, to your point about this not being a team, the general said there's no question this is going to go on for

years. remember, we're fighting terrorists. we're fighting terrorist organizations. we're not fighting an organized army. this is not your typical war. >> that's right. >> isis is an organized army and that's why it's so confusing. he has a cabinet and considers himself to be the general and they kind of do operate like an army and that's why it's such a non traditional terror group. >> the air strikes will move that all over the place. we pray for that. >> united states and several arab countries raining down bombs on terror targets in syria. president obama delivering a statement on those air strikes earlier. what he said and whether he's going to be able to shore up more support to defeat that terror group. when fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens.

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but we're going to do what's necessary to take the fight to this terrorist group for the security of the country and the region and for the entire world. >> that was president obama just a short time ago talking about the first wave of air strikes against isis targets in syria. right now mr. obama is at the nations here in new york where he's getting set to speak about climate change. but one of the president's biggest priorities while he's here in new york is shoring up support for his strategy to take out isis. ed henry is live in the new york city news room. >> you're right. a lot of pressure on the president to really ramp up support, get more members of this coalition. he's certainly, in fact, knew this afternoon we're hearing that the president will meet with members of this coalition against isis here in new york is we expect some representatives from jordan, et cetera, to sit down with the president, something the white hous trying heard from the president earlier this morning where he was talking about how he now has

five arab nations joining the air strikes over syria. listen. >> i also made clear that america would end as part of a broad coalition and that's exactly what we've done. we're joined by our friends and partners, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, jordan, bahrain and qatar. the strength of this coalition makes it clear to the world that this is not america's fight alone. >> they want to show as the president said it's not the u.s.' fight alone but you have critics like republican speaker john boehner saying, well, why are there not others on board? why isn't the u.k., for example, joined on the air strikes? are they in for a long fight? boehner saying i support the air strikes launch by the president, understanding this is just one step in what must be a larger effort to destroy and defeat the terror organization but democrats saying not so fast, a

key member of the president's own party from maryland tweeting out to boehner, you should bring members back to debate vote on the authorization of use of military force that supports the current mission but ensures no ground troops, no iraq war 2.0. you see the pressure there from the left against the president. no mission creep but also pressure we've seen in both parties saying why did congress go home without voting to actually authorize this military force? >> then they're going to be held accountable with the votes. ed, it's kennedy and thanks so much for being here. as we mentioned the president is going to take his magical, electric helicopter to new york city to talk about climate change. now, it seems like his entire agenda has been hijacked. will he talk about the climate at all? >> sure. he's going to make remarks this afternoon on climate as i mentioned and he's also meeting with members of the coalition against isis. i suspect the media will probably pay more attention about the coalition since you've got bombs dropping from the sky

and you've got missiles being launched from u.s. ships in the mideast. the fact of the matter is, climate change will be overshadowed. also remember last night, right before the bombs started, what did the white house announce? these changes on tax inversions. supposed to be a big democratic campaign issues and the word hijack might be the right word. the president's agenda is being overshadowed almost completely. legacy items he wants, whether it's tax numbers, immigration reform, being overshadowed by the national security crisis. >> thank you very much. by the way, kennedy wanted to ask you originally why you're so dreamy but we'll have to save that for another show. >> i had no idea >> thanks, ed. meantime, as the u.s. unleashes the military might from the air on isis targets in syria, the big question remains, will weeks of sustained air strikes help our allies on the ground defeat the islamic militants? well, if u.s. air strikes in iraq are any lessened, that may be a tall order.

weeks of similar strikes in iraq have so far failed to dislodge the terror group there. the paper reporting after six weeks of american air strikes, iraqi government forces have barely smudged the extremists from the hold. in part, because many critical sunni tribes remain on the sidelines and harris, i want to go to you on this. a lot of sunni tribes were the same tribe that helped us in the original iraq war. i should say the george w. bush iraq war. >> they were. part of the problem complication for why the air strikes haven't been as effect jich, they've had an overturn of government there. a lot has been going on. now that the terrorists have done the one thing we cannot afford them to do, they have just folded themselves into the civilian population waiting for whatever is going to happen to happen. we swooped down, we were part of the coalition that helped poor people, those religious minorities and christians trapped in the area of northern iraq. and that gave the enemy time to kind of run around and hide its tools that, by the way, are

equipment we left behind. but also just fold itself in and get cozy with the civilian population. we want to hit in syria before that happens effectively. sandra mentioned that earlier. you have to move in quickly. once they do that, the civilian casualty number goes up to really, we know we can't stomach the numbers because everything is televised now. >> the majority of i sis fighters are in syria. i would say 2/3 of them. charles was on fox and friends this morning and he thinks that this is going to be a half victory, these air strikes and he also believes that the real victory could come in iraq and not syria. take a listen. >> i think we can achieve a half victory, very consistent and determined in iraq because in iraq we have the kurds on the ground, there are some iraqi troops who can fight and we do have the sunni tribes who, during the surge in 2007 and 2008, joined us against al qaeda and we won.

if we can succeed in enlisting them on the ground, we win. so i see it as quite possible we can expel isis from iraq. but in syria, there's nobody on the ground. >> so that is the question. who is going to help us on the ground in both countries? can we make headway? >> do you think we'll put troops on the ground? >> i don't think we should at all. >> we're not surprised at civilians. they've been doing that forever and that's what they do from getting things to happen from them. how are we going to fight a war? my brother was 23 years in the army he said any time they got attacked, they had to call back here to say they're shooting at us. can we shoot back? are there civilians around? there are. you can't do that. >> rules of engagement prevent some of our forces from merely defending themselves. >> would we have won world war ii if we fought that way? i don't think so. >> we question the effectiveness of airstrikes in syria and iraq.

i guess we should also be questioning the other side of this and the question is politically, the timing of the air strikes, shortly before the midterm election, right? so as far as anybody is concerned, the president here has stuck to his plan. they're going to fight this from the air, they're not putting boots on the ground. he's already been very adamant about that, kevin. he's doubled down on that fact. and sticking to his plan may be a winning campaign move. >> and i'm glad you brought that up. we don't have time for the john bolton sound but he was on and he said if you look at what the administration is doing and ed reported on that, in versions last night, climate change at the u.n. today, this is almost a box checking, base election type of thing. i don't think the president would be in this position today if those two beheading videos wouldn't have come out and it seemed like today do something so this is a great opportunity to do it and say, look. i have sinking poll numbers on foreign policy but i'm acting

against isis. >> after global warming, they'll do the war on women once again. >> you have to. that is your -- at least we have an end game there. if only they had one with this military campaign. does it have a name? >> it doesn't and that speaks a lot to our dedication to the mission. that's an excellent point. having grown up military, if you don't name it, a lot of times, it keeps you from adhering to it in the long term. >> the search for a missing college student seems to be narrowing. hannah graham was last seen with one man and as they put out a warrant for his arrest, the latest on this investigation. plus the ray rice scandal getting even messier. ravens owner denying allegations of a coverup and refusing to fire anybody from his team. so where is the accountability? you know what my business philosophy is, reynolds?

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domestic abuse scandal rocking the nfl. owner of his former team, ravens, strongly denying at a news conference the scathing allegations in an espn report claiming members of his organization knew about rice's knockout punch of his then fiance from the very beginning. ravens owner insisting that team officials never saw that disturbing elevator video before it became public, that everyone on the team did what they should have done and that no one will be losing their job. but while denying any ko coverup, he appears to have one big regret. >> i'm sorry that we didn't push harder to get that tape. it seems to me in hindsight that we certainly had the leverage to say to ray and his lawyer that we can't have him play on our team until we see that last bit of evidence. >> kennedy, something just doesn't smell right here.

>> it doesn't smell right to the ravens coach and he wanted to release rice after seeing the first he wielevator video. obviously she was badly hurt and disabled in the elevator and it doesn't take a genius to assume after the two of them admitted that it was a domestic violence dispute, it doesn't take a lot to assume that's pretty intense force to bring a woman like that down. >> but still, the ravens owner says nobody is going to lose their job over this. >> what? >> there's no accountability. >> you've been saying, sandra, they hope this blows over and that's what's happening. >> i'm predicting that it will, in fact. but what a crock. does he really think we're stupid? by the way, ray rice said that we told them what happened, number one. so that's contradicty. number two, do we really think they didn't read the police report? let's take him at his word he

didn't try to get the video. there's a detailed police report on what happened. and am i to really believe that an organization as powerful as the baltimore ravens that spends almost every waking moment reviewing tape of the other team, reviewing tapes, reviewing plays and tapes doesn't want to get this tape? it is such a bunch of bull and i just am sick of them lying. really, at this point, just ridiculous. >> we got the ladies' perspective on the couch. >> i'm not going to disagree with you. there's no accountsability at the white house. how do we expect to have accountability with a football team? when i first heard about the story, he beat her up and horrible as it is, they kicked him off a couple of games. they saw the tape. we're going to kick him off the team. >> everyone else saw the tape. >> that's just the thing. this is like the paterno case. they knew they had a pedophile working, nobody did anything. this is really sad and it's

pathetic. >> coverup could make this situation worst, though, harris. >> my estimation of all of this is how long this existed before this one case. this isn't the first domestic violence case. very sadly this one was caught on tape so now it's getting all this attention as it is. when you talk about firing people and again, these owners, just like roger goodell, they have to do the dance between the players and the players union and there's so much money on the line. that's a dirty dance to do. >> i was watching my chicago bears last night. you know, the attendance is there. people are watching the games. you're not getting an overwhelming sense from the nfl fan community that there's any sort of boycott going on here, the sponsors are hanging in there. jay cutler isn't in the headlines and, you know, if he is it's for -- but a lot of times also, you have that allegiance to your team. not necessarily to players. you know, just because joe montana left the 49ers didn't

mean my stepdad stopped watching the 49ers. >> we saw the women still wearing ray rice jerseys. and we had a two game suspension. >> this is the third incident for the ravens in the domestic violence so clearly this team owner doesn't really care about it. >> what about ray lewis? he tried to come out and defend ray rice. i know you can't spell ravens without ray. >> everybody is also riled up about this and i can tell people here by the twittersphere. does god have a place in politics? what a growing number of americans think that may surprise you. plus disturbing new details about the man accused of jumping the fence and running into the white house. the white house. his previous arrests could have been a warning sign of things to come. it makes me happy to go on the computer.

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>> more "outnumbered" in a moment. first let's get to jon scott for what's coming up on the second hour of "happening now." >> hi, harris. incredible money machine that feeds isis, wealth of oil smuggled over decades. how they're using it and how much more dangerous it makes them. he's spent most of his presidency getting america out of war. now president obama facing a new one head on. will the commander in chief make his mark in this new effort?

and police in virginia launching a new search of a u.v.a. employee's apartment to find clues what might have happened to missing student hanna graham. what they found that's described as extremely productive. it's all ahead in the next hour of "happening now." >> we'll see you then, jon. thank you. >> more americans think religion is losing influence in american life. 72% of religious influence is on the decline in the u.s. 22% think it's increasing. meanwhile, more people think churches and other houses of worship should express their views on politics. it's up six points since the 2010 midterms. >> your take first, kevikevin. >> i had a movie called "god is not dead." it's the number one hollywood movie. made $65 million. >> congratulations. >> made another $30 million overseas. number two on video in demand. there's an audience out there.

son of god did very well. heaven is for really did well. should church be included more in what's going on? certainly in our government? i think so. our constitution was founded on religion. and i don't think -- you know, it's unfortunate it's gone away. i think the mainstream media has a lot to do with that and making people involved in church. i look at atheists and i said so confused about why they get so angry over something they don't believe in. i think it defends 92% of the people in the country it's taken down. >> i think i must have missed the headline it cost $2 million and you made $65 million. is hollywood not proud of that? >> nobody from hollywood picked it up. it's a production company out of scottsdale, arizona. they're the number one producer of faith basted and family friendly movies. nobody in hollywood was interested in putting it out there. >> it's getting high stars on vios. i was flipping into the d.v.r. the other night and people are

ordering it. watching it. >> wal-mart, targets, it's going off the shelves and another one came out now called "let the lion roar." it deals with the bible and the changes that went through the bible. >> you see what happens when they have mark burnett mini series on the bible, how widely successful they are, the passion of the christ. >> blessed by an angel. >> people are hungry for it. this study he don't find too surprising. and you see what the pope is doing. the pope is actually doing exactly what people say they want him to do in this study which is injecting his opinion on politics and people seem to like it. >> here's why i disagree with you about the pope. i think pope francis, i'm not catholic but i'm intrigued what he has to say in his message of love and i agree that people are searching for meaning in their lives. and you know, i don't know if a lot of people are concentrated in cities or technology disconnects us but they're looking for something greater than themselves and i think when human beings do that, that is the most worthy pursuit. i truly do.

i don't necessarily want to hear what the pope has to say about capitalism because he's a bit of a socialist. i really disagree with that. >> you say more americans are searching for meaning of life and meaning of themselves but yet they're turning from the church. they're not going to church. >> and perhaps that's why they're searching, because as human beings, we have a mechanism for worship and i think, you know, atheists have turned atheism into a religion. i've written about this for a reason and i made a lot of atheists upset by it. there's something in us that searchs for something greater. if you're not going to church, you're going to search for meaning elsewhere naturally. >> why do you think that is? you do a lot of this on your show. why do you think people are hungry for politics in their religion? is it because they're scared of what's happening in the world? >> yes. >> because people are pet re fieed. they are petrified financially, petrified with what's happening overseas. is that why they're searching

for something? >> can i jump in there and let you finish? >> go ahead. >> this survey revealed more and more americans see this current administration, obama administration, as not friendly towards religion. it was a significant drop in americans so perhaps there's this idea that a lot of americans feel like their religious beliefs have been attacked by the current administration. >> and they want their churches to fight back or weigh in or -- >> i think they want churches to fight back. i think there is a culmination of a lot of passages that aren't teaching the bible the way it should have taught. i think there's a political correctness even going on in the churches and i think they need to go back to help bring people back to the church and give them hope. >> it's a big job. >> it is a big job. yeah. >> all right. thank you very much. excellent discussion, ladies. >> ever feel like your husband can't remember anything? like when to drive you to church? new research shows you might be right. why scientists say we have better memories. ugh. heartburn.

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>> who has a better memory? men or women? researchers are finding new evidence that women do and could be related to the way parents talk to their kids in preschool. past studies she that daughters are asked about their feelings and sons are focused on what

they should do with the feelings. i heard you chiming n. >> did we really need a study to tell us that? it was a bunch of men who taught us this idea. it is not a surprise. women and men are wired differently. we love to talk about our feelings. this is not just the way we are born. this is the way our parents nurtured us as we were toddlers. >> my mom was far more open in the conversation with all five of us kids. my dad was the strong silent type. did you find you relate to women well? >> sure, of course i do. >> you know, i think it is interesting, researchers show that touch deliver so much information. and we touch people more often than men. and as a child my mother would grab me and impart that important information and i was far more likely to remember it

because mommy showed me love. >> i am very huge with my kids. >> you are an evolved male. >> and the nice thing it is. there are so many dads out there that are like that. and they get into children's lives and get on their level. most of the things i love about my husband is when he picks them up and smooches them and it is a daily constant. >> you think it would be different if they are boys? >> i think he suffers from memory loss constantly and thank god. he can do everything. >> it is a memory loss or selective. >> and you guys made better memory. and kiss them on the check. >> i remember everything. >> and she does. >> and we are staying over here and fox news.com/outnumbered.

and we are back here on tv tomorrow. "happening now" starts right now. >> fox news alert and a test for obama administration. >> the president set to speak on climate change and works to build a international coalition to stop isis. >> the fight takes a dramatic new turn as u.s. military operations expand inside of syria. >> on my order ares, america's armed forces began strikes against syria >> isis is not the only american terror group. >> intelligence reports reported that the final plans to the western targets and