ago. attorney general eric holder announcing he will be stepping down. that press conference coming 4:30 later today. a lot of news going on. jon: update on the search for hannah graham. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. a new report that iraq's prime minister says his country has uncovered an imminent terror plot to attack subways right here in the u.s. and in paris. we're also learning the u.s. was alerted but that plot has reportedly not been stopped. i'm sandra smith. here today, andrea tantaros, host of "the independents" on fox business channel, kennedy, kirsten powers with us, today's #oneluckyguy, from "o'reilly factor," jessie waters on a big news day. >> they said our chemistry was electric. so i'm very excited. >> this is the first time we've been together. >> you two haven't been on

together either. >> we haven't. do we have a generator incase all the power goes down from the energy? >> put your two brains together and discuss this terror plot. they're piling on now. by the way, when the iraqi prime minister was asked if this had been thwarted he said no. so on the take, an imminent terror plot. on the u.s. as well as paris. >> incredibly scary. feels like how it felt after 9/11 right now. you kind of feel like you're in middle of the storm. i don't like this feeling personally. we need to do something about it. what i don't understand, the president first said iraq was stable. then he said isis was just jv. and then he said that it was manageable problem. and then he said there was no imminent threat to the homeland. and now just in the last 24 hours we've seen two supposed imminent threats to the homeland. i don't know what's going on. >> kirsten, the other threat he is talking about coming from the khorasan group about a toothpaste bomb plot on airliners.

>> i think we have to be skeptical sometimes. if they're saying there is a threat we have to take it at face value. the time something is interesting. it seems to come at a time they're trying to build up a support for war, right? and so you're right, how will we were so safe before and now suddenly out of the blue it seems that we have these terror attacks against the nights united states. >> isn't that troubling? we're waiting for can confirmation from our fox news reporters. what is troubling, sandra, exactly what jesse said, the administration has been on different pages on whether or not we could be attacked at home. we're hearing from the white house, no, no, not a big deal. hearing from the department of defense, yes, it could be imminent. it has been uncovered but not thwarted. i know iraqi government, not the most trustworthy bunch in the world why would they say something like this? makes me think, kirsten, to your

point, they're trying to garner support. there is a big vote tomorrow in british parliament. at the same time there is british hostage could be beheaded. part of the british community saying let's not bomb them. we don't want our hostage to be beheaded. terror plots are happening all over. we're vulnerable like our neighbors in france. we have to do something. >> i thought point going after isis make sure we went after the bad guys, we went after the terrorists. all of sudden going after isis in syria, more terror plots are emerging. you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. i said it before, said it again i question whether we have an endgame and immediate strategy. all david cameron and president said this will take long time. we'll not have any ground troops. it will not be sufficient force, show of force against isis. and you're creating all of these other tangents. >> kirsten, i know you're trying to jump in here, everybody is saying we haven't heard from

homeland security on all of this. president said last week. there was no known terror plot. >> they talked about lone wolves. they didn't talk about the terror groups. >> they said actually was a regular response to any known terror plots being reported. go ahead, kirsten. >> i really am concerned. i would love to have information about how they decide to go public with a terror plot. had there always been terror plots that they were sort of concerned about and they just didn't decide to be public about them? now it is just this convenient for them to do it? or are these actually more series and -- >> france and united states. two countries that are doing the airstrikes. >> the theory here seems to be from what i'm hearing, someone is using this as leverage to either galvanize western opinion and force us to come in harder against isis. is it baghdad putting pressure on france and great britain and united states to realize this threat is serious and we need ground troops? or is it administration? is it france? is it great britain?

who knows. we don't know. >> or iraq helping administration out. we'll give you cover from the war powers threat, if you have an imminent threat you have a blank check. >> baghdad all of sudden fly off the handle, by the way there is unthwarted plot in the united states? >> one thing that i think is strategic and should be, i mean applauded we're going after their oil fields. last night, big story, taking out their oil. they're garnering what, two million dollars a day in oil. >> i have a different opinion. i don't know we're taking out oil fields. we're talking about temporary structures. overseas, the u.s. hitting isis where it is supposed to hurt the most in the wallet. this is pentagon video of us air strikes on isis's key command centers and headquarters. u.s. and arab allies also pounding from the air at least a dozen oil refineries in syria that are terrorist cash cow, funding their mission. as turkey announces it will now

join the coalition to defeat extremist. we have few details what their role will be. u.k. prime minister david cameron says great britain will join airstrikes in iraq as soon as parliament approves it. meantime the despite increased military action in syria. isis continues to advance into other areas of the country, laying siege to several towns home to thousands of syrian kurds near the border with turkey. andrea, continue please. >> this is a big story. i think this matter, sandra, as you point out, follow the money. they're hitting them exactly in the wallet. $2 million a day they're making from the oil. that is small dent. they raided 9 bank in mosul they were able to garner a billion dollars. this can temporarily hamstring them if they continue the airstrikes. at least some targets are going after the money which we've been talking about for weeks. >> i say it's a step in the right direction. we were talking with ambassador

john bolton. they're modular refineries. easy to build and easy to assemble. you can call them prefab. >> disassemble and move. funny you don't hear environmental its say the earth is crying. president is saying global climate change is as bad as ebola and isis and we'll bomb the living crap out of oil refineries and spill the stuff and create a giant new carbon footprint. >> this is the war on oil he was talking about. >> why is this administration bending over, thanking turkey when turkey has supplied shipments, fighters, and they have been getting some of isis's oil and basically money laundering it and selling it for them? turkey has been complicit. erdogan's government says they didn't know anything about this they certainly didn't stop it. that is pretty important border to guard. i don't trust turkey and i don't

think they're our most important ally. >> what about is it necessary to blow up oil fields? eric bolling, said, can you just blow up road that lead to them? do you need to create environmental havoc. >> if you need to win the peace afterwards, and no oil, and everyone is impoverished. how will you win the peace. we like to build and taxpayers will pay for it. >> not nation-building, mr. waters. >> i don't know if mr. obama is in for that. we're doing all this stuff, isis rebels are apparently advancing. i don't know if it is having an effect. after the bush administration went into afghanistan, after few days it was quack mire, remember? now the rebels are advancing. where is the m during the bush administration. casualty tallies. >> i don't remember it that way. >> exit strategy? how much is this going to cost.

wondering is fair and balanced reporting. >> more than afghanistan than iraq. liberals and conservatives with gallonnized in afghanistan. iraq was a different matter. that's why you're seeing still so much opposition. >> very troubling, very quickly. the syrian rebels, moderates we're arming, they're denouncing airstrikes. hello? maybe should have thought of that. former vice president dick cheney slamming the president over his military strategy in syria. here he is last night on "hannity." >> when we did desert storm, we gave them whole load first night of the war. when you have pinprick attacks as they were doing initially with the respect to the arab campaign, that's what you get. you given my time to adjust. go underground. to take care of protecting themselves from those attacks and they're less effective when you telegraph what you're pogue to do. barack obama has obama

consistently refused to accept good military advice how he uses the force. >> earlier today press secretary john kirby defending us air strikes. >> our main function inside, bill, get at strategic targets, targets they use to sustain themselves, command-and-control and lead forces and finance themselves. couple nights ago we hit the finance center. yesterday as you rightly reported we hit oil refineries in the eastern part of the country we know is steady stream of revenue for these guys. we're going after ways inside of syria using to sustain themselves. >> so is the president listening to the military and taking their advice? >> no he ignored the military brass on number of occasions. he ignored them about leaving troops in iraq and ignored them in afghanistan. doesn't have a great commander-in-chief in libya. squandered peace in iraq. i hear he is picking targets himself from the white house.

he lost his campaign, he launched this campaign at nighttime when no one was around. then he is warning them when it is coming. they have scurried around. better, civilian population. >> picking targets in the drone war. doing exact same thing. so, look i have a hard time listening to dick cheney lecture people how to run a war. that, i'm sorry, they didn't do a good job. i'm not going back everything at the beginning could have been done differently except for the fact we shouldn't have gone into iraq first place. that doesn't mean president obama is doing a great job. i think it is right. he is not listening to the advice. i don't know that he is getting any food advice. this whole syria -- >> getting good advice from the men and women he put in these positions? >> i have not yet heard a coherent strategy from anybody who is saying we should be in syria. i hear people saying we should be in syria. if there is no coherent strategy, to your point, what is the plan here? what is the plan? >> i agree with you, kirsten.

>> that is not a plan. >> it is a horrible plan. many of us said that from the beginning. >> these are not friends. i don't care what your vetting process. if you're not fighting assad, you are against us. we will fight with al-nusra front and fight assad together. you know what? isis offering more money to the moderates than we are. only a the mare of time before they flip. >> sandra? >> i think the point is timing. if we took all of our capabilities and implement them at one time, and came in hard and fast, that that would be more effective than this -- >> you mean american boots on the ground in syria. >> no. i don't mean boots on the ground at all. instead of pin trick pricks. that is cheney's only point. i don't think that is his knowledge. he is using history. >> shock and awe, baby. shock and awe. >> that is war. >> it is. more breaking news. attorney general eric holder is expected to announce this

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♪ >> well there's a shake-up at the heightette level in the obama administration. attorney general eric holder is resigning of the nation's top cop has been part of the white house from the very beginning of president obama's first term and has been caught up in a slew of controversial cases, including "fast & furious," the gun running operation that led to the death of a border agent and handling of events in ferguson, missouri, after a police officer killed an unarmed teenager. congratulations jesse, you brought down eric holder. >> i will take credit for it. >> this is great day. choudry is arrested and holder resigns. >> i will not spike the football. this track record has been incredibly divisive. he has been a radical attorney general. he said we were nation of cowards because we didn't talk about race. he said opposition to president

obama is based on racial animus. he led black panthers off the hook when they were intimidating voters. he sued almost every southern state. the guy tried to try ksm and masterminds in manhattan. >> don't forget "fast & furious." >> he was censured by the house. a lot of people are happy to see him go. i don't know where we go from here without holder. everyone will miss him. >> not enough time for exaggerations. >> which one did i exaggerate? >> black panthers case -- >> he was awful. >> black panthers case, there was no case. >> really, why not? there was no case there? you mean when they had billy clubs. >> give me a break. >> let them off with nothing. >> there wasn't a single voter who complained. >> wait a second no one complained? how did we know about the video. the guy holding videotape. >> i can tell you, you really don't know? a gop operative was trained to go there to do things like that.

poll watchers trained by republicans. >> you think it is okay with that? >> poll watchers with nightsticks? >> he did the video. >> you're okay with it then? you're okay with black panthers holding up billy clubs. >> who were they harassing? they were in all black neighborhood basically. >> if you're okay with it. we'll have them hold up billy clubs all over. >> move on from the black panthers. >> getting caught up -- >> what will his legacy be? >> i don't know exactly what his legacy. first african-american attorney general who is incredibly close to the president. i think he was one of his key advisors. i think he, a lot of this stuff you're complaining about he did, a lot of people on the left like in terms of voting rights issues and so i think he is probably his legacy is very progressive attorney general. >> very progressive. >> he was obama's cover-up guy. one of the most divisive,

polarizing -- up. >> ethical. >> dangerous men in america. didn't enforce laws on obamacare. droning terrorists without a trial and giving them trials in downtown manhattan. ran the doj much like the black panthers would. that is a fact. >> i don't think so. >> completely. >> spied on james rosen, remember that? your colleague. >> timing though. i want to talk about the timing, kennedy. don't you find it a bit fascinating? having him resign now to get their next candidate confirmed before the senate possibly flips into republican hand. i'm interested to hear what you think about how it will affect the midterm elections. while it may gin up the base and raise money, will it be too polarizing for independent and swing voters? >> i think people have so much choose. absolutely why they released it today. same as releasing on 6:00 on friday. if he stood up, pete's out, thanks for coming. he might stick around until december they say. but he, holder is, i think he is

just, he is slimyier than salamander covered in bath oil. >> that is really slimy. >> it is. try picking that up. >> possible successors have been mentioned. massachusetts governor deval patrick. senator richard blumenthal in the mix. senator sheldon whitehouse, kirsten and senator claire mccaskill. >> claire mccaskill that would be a giant middle finger to hillary clinton if she is. >> whoever it is will end up being most horrible person in the world. >> they have to bring back janet reno. >> treat the nominee fairly? and with integrity. >> we have to -- move along. ding-dong. notable lawmakers including two dozen democrats up for re-election and questioning rightly so, constitutionality of launching airstrikes in syria without a congressional vote. one of the president's former

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♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." president obama is used to getting backlash from republicans for going around congress to get things done. two dozen lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, majority from democrats are pushing for congressional approval on airstrikes on isis. former advisor david axelrod is saying this, quote, i suspect president obama would be one pressing for debate and vote on this it is interesting when a guy becomes president of the united states he is vested with the responsibility of being commander-in-chief. you have to make different judgments because politics can get very difficult.

kirsten, let you take this first. >> i do think that the president sh authority. techally doesn't need it right now, to be doing what he is doing if we have imminent threat. under war powers act he has 60 to 90 days, but even with the authority he should go to congress. this is decision need to be made by congress and whole country needs to be invested in this. >> what do you think, sandra. >> what did you think about differentiation and president obama and senator obama making different decisions into i think axelrod is clearly mad at president because it makes the president look bad. it says that the president is wholly politicized making rational decision and. i've been a constitutional scholar for ten years. we have to return constitutionality to executive branch. too much power is concentrated in the executive brand. he is absolutely right, and fallen prey to the siren song.

axelrod asked if he could run the presidential library. obama shut him down. now he is getting revenge. >> i think he is mad about the latte salute. my surprised that politician changes their position when they became inconvenient? of course not. senator obama changed a lot of positions when he blame president. gay marriage. he evolved on gay marriage. >> is that okay. >> of course it is okay. but when it happens for crass political reasons, i mean it is so on russ. he -- obvious. changed on surveillance and individual mandate. campaign finance. >> wasn't for gay marriage when he ran for president originally. >> this guy is and was a constitutional law professor he gets mack the smacked around by the courts. he has been blowing off the balance of powers for a while. >> i can't believe david axelrod would bring raw politics into his -- politics into his comments. >> i don't know what david

axelrod is up to. i voted for obama and i didn't expect him to do a lot things that he did. >> if you were to right now, in 2009 say, the president of the united states of america, barack obama, was going to unilaterally launch airstrikes into a muslim country with no u.n. or congressional approval, people would say you have to be crazy. >> historically though, many on the left, i agree with you, kirsten. he should have gone to congress. republicans that don't think he should are hypocrites. they're the same ones saying he should have gone to congress on obamacare. >> they're cowardly. we live in a post-constitutional america. the constitution is dead letter. of the why all the democracy promotion righties are disillusioned. we don't have democracy here at home, how can we promote it overseas? he should have gone to congress. he doesn't. >> he didn't in libya either. i can't was never approved.

>> it turned out great. >> many on the left have disdain for the constitution. >> i don't know about that. many on the left are concerned about the fact they ignored the constitution. >> they do. tell people to abide by the constitution an who value it, highly, highest document in the land, they call them fetishers. >> who is they. >> i don't know who we're talking about. >> a lot of tea party supporters is uphold the document in the land are smeared as radical nut johns because they believe the bill of rights should be honored. >> i don't think that is right but i don't think they're being smeared because they believe in the constitution. i think there are a lot of liberals -- >> call them constitutional -- >> they are very upset with obama. ignoring the constitution. >> new study could shed light on what apappears to be dwindling popularity of marriage. we reported census revealing marriage rates are plummeted to near century low. a new pugh survey find money is one of the main reason the

always about the benjamins. 30% of young singles say they haven't found the right person but 27% say it is financial instability that is stopping them from tying the knot. 22% are not just red did he to settle down. the study asks what millenials are looking for in a spouse. 70% of women say similar ideas on child racing are important and whopping 78% want a husband with a job. so smart, girls. with some young americans especially, men out of work, is the economy hurting the institution of marriage? what do you think, kirsten? >> i don't know because i feel like this has been a trend going on for a while. i don't know it is necessarily, i hear people are saying it is because of, they want them to have a job. but don't you feel like people are less interested in marriage than they used to be? >> women are in their careers. and the right marriage time and child bearing years, they're,

working very hard. i think it is that. andrea the economy is to blame for a lot of this as well. it is not beneficial for people to jump into a marriage if both are not financially secure. i know a lot of people wait to get married until one or both in the marriage -- >> that time never comes. i blame sort of princess culture. so many women have this fantasy of a wedding that costs of tens of thousands of dollars. bank accounts together. now there's this expectation you both have to be at the top of your game -- >> yeah. >> wait a second -- >> if you're waiting for total financial stability, ask any rich person -- >> you guys saying you don't see 25-year-old men living in their basement with no income, you don't find that attractive? [laughter] i'm shocked. the point is i don't know if this poll, does that mean women

are golddiggers? no, i don't think so, but they want someone with something. when i got married, i was working here at fox from, i think, noon until midnight -- >> oh, my gosh. you must be exhausted. >> no health insurance, making minimum wage, and my wife found me, and she plucked me out of on security, and i had to borrow must be to get the ring -- money to get the ring -- >> your saying you were a -- you're saying you were a growth stock more her. >> i was a penny stock. [laughter] >> you're doing wonderful. >> that's right. but it was a long time coming. >> i think it's more to find a man who's got create it and ambition and, you know, you help cultivate that. >> so is lack of religion as well. people don't have the emphasis on marriage they once did. >> yeah. >> you kind of don't have to get married the way you used to have to get married, you can move in and delay it. >> we're talking about a generation of people whose parents were doored, and they

don't want to repeat those -- were divorced, and they don't want to repeat those mistakes. it is much harder to do that in a bad economy. >> i agree with you on women making more and being more successful. money is important. >> there's also the old wisdom, you know, why buy the cow -- [laughter] that's for another day. new york city on alert as new details emerge about a, quote, imminent attack on the united states. and a high school band's national guard t-shirts unpatriotic, or are they protecting young, impressionable minds? and after the show go to foxnews.com/outnumbered, click the overtime tab, send us your questions, comments, what you want us to talk about it. you feel our energy, now give it back, america. give it back. ♪

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"outnumbered." a high school in upstate new york has banned national guard t-shirts because of what they call an inappropriate image on the front. on-campus recruiters can no longer hand out the promotional shirts because they show the silhouette of an american soldier holding a rifle. parents are calling the decision unpatriotic, but the interim superintendent says, quote, this has nothing to do with patriotism or anything to do with anybody disliking the military, it just has to do with the fact that there was a weapon on the shirt, and that just doesn't have a place in high school. >> is this a british high school? [laughter] >> this is a very proper, this is -- [laughter] >> it's a ritzy, upstate boarding school. >> i believe it was dump l door. no, this is ridiculous, waters. next they're going to call it an assault weapon. >> i don't know. i don't have a problem with the shirt. i think you draw the line when it becomes disruptive to the learning experience. if you have a shirt with a naked

chick on it or a shirt that said -- >> which you do. >> or a shirt that says f the principal, then you get rid of that t-shirt. the national guard, this is a taxpayer-funded, volunteer, patriotic organization. i don't see a problem with it at all. >> what do they do in their history books, not show any pictures of war? >> right. >> probably not. >> you can learn about it, you can't wear it. >> i'm not kidding you, are they air brushing muskets? >> because it's one thing if they're just not allowed to wear graphic t-shirts or something like that. >> yeah. >> but the principal said our code of conduct says no t-shirts depicting violence or weapons. okay. that makes me think like a bloody knife that's being held up by a questionable character of a shirt. how about the fact that this is depicting defending our rights as a country, and this is how we -- >> right. >> -- and this is how we are the united states that we are today. i think this is disgraceful. i think this principal should be having a little talking to.

>> and, sandra, there was another case like this where they wouldn't let a father who was in the military guard go into a school. there is some sort of hostility. i'm not buying it. i think it's an anti-military bias. >> i do too. >> and it seems like the hysteria, it so much takes away from the high school experience, and it is so impossible to interface with a school when they're making these rash decisions that -- >> and blanket decisions. >> yeah. >> that's the problem. that's it right there. >> it's just black or white with with them. it's a blanket ruling, and they should be able to make it on individual instances, which they're not doing. what do you think about this, the t-shirt where the girl -- it said i'm a virgin or i'm a -- >> virginity rocks. >> and i said i think that is distracting because what if you have -- >> i'm very distracted by that shirt just thinking about it. >> see in moves my point. is that different? >> the girls wear miniskirts,

the guys' pants are sagging by their ankles. they can get away with that, but they can't wear a shirt with the national guard on it? it's crazy. heaven forbid there's actually a school shooting, who are they going to call first? they're going to call the national guard in to help protect -- in they're going to blame that student. >> of course they will. you can't even go like this in a school anymore. it's crazy. >> by the time they get in high school, if they're interested in the national guard, good for them. >> yeah. we need guys like that. >> i just think they don't want the kids going into the national guard. they don't want them in any way recruiting them. i mean -- >> kirsten, if i were to take the other side though, i would say -- maybe this principal doesn't have an anti-military sentiment, perhaps this is an oversensitivity that has been ingrained in this country. >> yeah. >> because of all the recent school shootings, that he's afraid he's going to somehow be in trouble or get attacked. >> yeah. the pendulum has swung the other way. and do you know what they should

be focusing on? the students' scores. we're not even testing well compared to other countries. forget what they're wearing, let's teach them how to read and right. >> you've got mandatory testing, it would drive you crazy. [inaudible conversations] >> and the enemy, as you point out, it's been cupcakes in the schools. >> right. >> banning bake sales, what they're wearing, guns on their t-shirts. >> does that mean you can't wear a guns and roses shirt to school anymore? i hope not. >> where is america? >> where is the aclu? come on, aren't they going to defend this guy's -- >> acl i heart you. thank you, jesse waters. >> a journalist is under fire for an article he wrote about frats and drinking on college campuses. he says drunk girls may be the biggest threat to the future of fraternities, and he's standing by every word he wrote. ♪ ♪ [music]♪

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and find the aarp medicare supplement plan to go the distance with you. go long. >> more "outnumbered" in just a mo, but first to jon scott with what's coming up on the second hour of "happening now." jon: more airstrikes overnight that hit isis in a very different place, the wallet. oil installations that bring in about $2 million day for that terror group now destroyed. plus, in virginia cops get their

man. jesse matthew picked up in texas. still, though, no sign of the young woman he is accused of kidnapping. will his arrest be the break in the case that police need to bring hannah graham home? also tony stewart's big win in court, but his legal battle might not be over. the nascar great still faces charges. we'll explain, "happening now." >> all right. we'll be watching, jon, thank you. jon: thanks, sandra. >> now it's my turn with this story. after a huge social media firestorm, "forbes" magazine firing a contributor over an online column in which he argued drunk party girls are the gravest threat to the livelihood of from they wereties. in the article -- fraternities. quote: a single out female guests for one simple reason, the number of rules and procedures that have to be file file -- followed to run a party nowadays would astound anyone

other 40. >> so i am terrified of doing this segment, of saying manager stupid. let's just try to identify this guy's fear here, andrea. what he's afraid of is he hosts a party at the house, and these girls pregame too hard and come over sloppy drunk, they take too many shots, they go up to your room. the next thing happens in the morning, you know, i don't know what happens, i can barely remember -- >> don't let them in this door n the first place. >> she gets assaulted, anything could happen, and then they're liable. is this a legitimate fear? >> yes. i don't know why this writer is taking so much heat -- >> yeah. >> because this is actually a problem that goes on. these girls show up at these fraternity houses, the guys, what are they supposed to do, lock them out? hey, how are you? you laid out this scenario very, very well. so it is a legitimate fear. >> yeah. if a girl can't handle her alcohol, then the person at the

front door should say why doesn't your sorority sister take you back to the house and hold your hair back while you vomit. >> but a lot of times too, though, they walk up to guys' room, maybe they get drunk as the night goes on playing beer pong. >> it's almost impossible for fraternities to get sued. there was a huge cover story in the atlantic, and the way they've ipslated themselves, i don't want feel badr for them. if you're worried about liability, do what an air line would do. they don't let drunk people on the plane, and if you've already been served, they're not going to serve you any more. >> kirsten, when they say the fraternities are under threat. this reminds me when white, straight, rich men say we're being attacked. do they have a legitimate concern? they're going after the washington redskins, gays in the military, things are changing. fifty years from now, are they going to to allow from fraternity culture? >> i don't know.

i have a real problem that this person wrote something that whether you agree with it or not, why does it have to be pulled down and everybody has to freak out over it? can you not express an opinion that differs so people can tolerate it? i mean, what is the problem? >> first of all, the writer agreed with it being pulled down, by the way. >> i know, but this is our culture. >> this was in the politics section. >> right. we literally cannot tolerate differing ideas. and the whole point of the public debate is that you should feel challenged, offended, even get upset sometimes. and then count canner. and then counter. >> you and i are both columnists, and it's so hard when you're trying to make a point because there's other points you want to jam into the column. this writer said, look, there's also the issue of from alternative i think -- fraternity guys getting drunk and taking -- >> i've been quiet because i've been listening to your viewpoints. i feel like it's the fault of the fraternity that has no policy to handle this. you just said it yourself, or

maybe it was you, kennedy, don't let them in the or door in the first place. the sororities have sisters, people looking out for them. i know we did. we had a buddy system, designated drivers. don't let them in the door. >> after they're already in the door, i'm not making excuses for fraternities. i know how that's going to come off. there's a lot of problems. these guys shouldn't get so drunk. there definitely is an issue here. there is an issue of girls getting too drunk and men taking advantage of them, however, where's the personal responsibility for both sides? >> we say that for women, the feminists go berserk. no, we should be able to wear whatever we want and drink as much as we want and pass out in the streets. >> it makes the drunk girl that's completely clean and, again, we have to say it because some person is going to start blogging saying we support women being raped which we do not support or any of those things. but the point is the drunk woman, she's not held

accountable for anything. the drunk guy, however, is supposed to make all these amazingly perfect decisions and not make any mistakes. >> right. and we all make great decisions when we're inreek rated -- inebriated, and i survived without saying anything -- >> you didn't say anything in that whole block. >> that's right. i was just quiet. the ice girls who clear the rink during breaks may be the best part of the game, but when they get dumped by the team, wait until you hear the reaction to their replacements. ♪ ♪ when fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. roccaaaaaaaaaaaa! [popping & fizzing sounds] ... ...

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♪ ♪ >> hockey fans in philly were used to seeing that at the flyers' games, the ice girls clearing the ice during the breaks. but during the off season the ice girls were disbanded following a scathing report in the national media about how these ladies work in harsh conditions for low pay. but fans didn't like their replacement so much. [laughter] the new all-male ice crew. listen to the fans' reaction as the guys came out onto the ice. priceless.

yeah. that's not so cool. >> listen, i i mean, the pc police shut these poor ice girls >> i mean the police shut them down. the report said they were quote and unquote freezing and hungry. they weighed a hundred pounds. of course they are freezing and hung row. bring back our ice ñigirls. you don't see me complaining. and it is part of the fun of the game. would you boo if they were gone? >> she thought the ice boys were

hot. i am a huge flyer fans and i think it is it a gift for the women who watch. i just want their shirts on. >> all of the female flyers o.>> and you need to keep it up. that is like the technology. where is the zam boning. that is disturbing. and you get them and they are fine and warm. and that is the last in the trouble. oh, so close. thank you for having me. and thank you for being here. we have outnumbered overtime on the web. and click the over:.

we'll be right back here tomorrow at noon eastern. >> we begin with a fox news alert. nation's chief law enforcer stepping down. attorney general holder expected to resign later today in a new's conference. >> holder is the first african-american attorney general and this is "happening >>st forces and partner nations, 12 modular oil refineries. jon: dozens of airstrikes mean millions of dollars down drain for isis. drain for isis. big money oil,ñi destroyed, buts it enough to stop the world's richest terror group. >> and there is no basis to charge for the crime. >> a major win for tony stewart. is this the end of the road for the nas-car