heaven and earth. we don't know what is out there and for the cops seeing a ghost, how do you read a ghost their rights? >> we'll have "happening now" right now. and we begin with a fox news alert. we are awaiting a briefing by the top brass in the pentagon on the operations of flushing out and destroying isis terrorist. this is "happening now". >> this is not the stuff of fantasy. it is happening in front of us and we need to faceup to it. >> prime minister cameron on an urgent plea on whether the united kingdom will join the u.s. led mission to destroy isis. as they target the money making oil sites. and no hiding behind the mask.

the cold blooded killer who butchered two reporter system identified. >> and a man suspected of kidnapping a college student identified. and the search for hannah graham is far from over. >> if you are realtor and responsible for the sale of a property that is vacant. you want to ask to go back to the property. >> and new allegations in the ray rice video scandal. a law enforcement official sent the videotape to the nfl chief months ago. it is all "happening now". first on the top story. u.s. and allies hammering isis where they hope it has most affect. they try to cut off the flow of money and welcome to "happening now", the second hour. i am jon scott.

>> and second day in a row bombing raids targeted facilityis that the terrorist use to sell oil on the black market. and great britain voted to join the air strikes against isis and taking place in iraq. >> and jennifer griffith has the latest. and it is their involvement. and in the turkish border. and they are trying to push back isis fighters that are trying to overtake the kurdish town. no war planes are aiding them right now. in eastern syria. coalition forces destroyed four tanks today. this is the first time they targeted the oil- producing facilities and infrastructure

that isis use to generate millions of dollars a day. fighters ha check points fearing more flights and allowing the exodus of civilians from syria and the u.s. air force deployed four stealth fighter jets when it started the bombing raids over syria today. this is the first video of the strikes and u.s. defense officials say the f- 22 was used because they were concerned about syria air defense systems and anti- assad rebels said there was a chemical attack on the rebels on wednesday. and u.s. defense officials show the after effects of bombs that the assad used recently. moderate syrian rebels are critizing the u.s. for not targeting the assad regime.

the reason there is no air support for the kurds holding off the isis fighters. without spotters on the ground it is unlikely they could help them because of fears of friendly casulties. no ground forces as of yet. >> understood. jennifer thank you. >> and starting with the top story. british parlamount voted to approve air strikes against isis on iraq. ire. and it is so colorful. >> and more than 500 british law makers voting yes. and for now the uk will not participate against the strikes against syria. and they will keep the ground forces out of the fight. they join us now. and why just iraq and not syria,

too. >> and president obama said redline in syria and the british voted overwhelmingly not to have an attack over syria. >> and david cameron is not going to ask for them and he didn't think there was support to go after syria and iraq. the significance of all of this is, as president obama is assembling the coalition, particularly arab and sunni and muslim countries, one we have not heard from yet, turkey. >> we pay a lot of money to have a base in that country and turkey said no when we wanted to use that base before. can we force them to let us to use that base? >> no, here is their excuse. 40 turkish diplomats were held but were released and in a meeting with the turbish

president. he hemmed and hawed. does turkey join the coalition and does turkey seal the border between turkey and syria that is the corridor through which all of the european- americans are going through. >> it would be okay with a no-fly zone, y why? >> the details have to be worked out. maybe they are working it out. and even as good as that would be, this is only the first step. the president said degrade and destroy isis. it will degrade, but will it destroy? most experts say you have to put somebody's boots on the ground. >> in iraq, we have a big piece of news that ended up not being news at all. the iraqi prime minister said this was an imminent terror plot

against the u.s. subway in the u.s. and france. you went to a break fast this morning. >> the president said i tried to get in touch with him but he is on an airplane to go back to iraq. he said, we know that there will be retaliation for this. he said in iraq we know there are isis sleeper cells in iraq and unlikely they will take it lying down. we will see some kind of an attack, whether it is imminent on the new york subway. day after tomorrow is a separate issue. >> sounds like they fudged the issue. were they trying t get the attention or why? >> normally in a situation like that, the intelligence service

tells each other. >> the prime minister told the press. we were in a flurries trying to figure out the attack. american intelligence community said we believe no imminent attack. >> you think he was trying to divert our attention? >> we are focusing on syria and he would say don't forget we have a problem in iraq and we need your help. >> i want to ask you quickly. do they believe they are getting the support from the united states they need? >> they said they are. boots on the ground will be the big issue. >> kt mcfarland. thank you so much. >> right now, we are learning more about a fire in an air traffic control facility west of chicago. police say a contractor intentionally started the fire that caused hundreds of

cancelled flights. this is a weird one, mike, what happened? >> reporter: yeah, john, it is a personal problem that is impacting many, many people. as you mentioned, it looks like this guy was a contractor with the fa a and worked with computer systems that controls the air towers. he set several fires in the basement and managed to shut down radar and communication systems before he slit his wrist. no indication he had connection with terrorist. the only injury was a 50-year-old man who had smoke inhalation. but the impact is o'hare and midway. both airports needed to be shut down. more than a thousand flights were cancelled and 400 out of

midway and o'hare regained the title of busiest airport in the world. if you are traveling from anywhere today, this will probably impact you. >> what a mess. when will it get back to normal? >> reporter: if you look at o'hare. lines on the street are smaller and flights are coming and going, but the delays are significant. only official word we have, midway airport suggesting they will be back on's normal schedule at 7 o'clock p.m. >> mike. thank you. >> looking live in the the pentagon. we are minutes away from a briefing of chuck hagel and general martin demsey. and we'll have new information on the missing university student as the authorities begin

the extradition process. as the man wanted for questioning was arrested in texas. uit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief. decmp hurry in and sea food differently.

a fox news alert. a news briefing by the top officials in the pentagon set to get underway shortly. we are expecting to hear from martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and secretary of defense, chuck hagel and get an update on who is going on in syria and iraq. you will want to stay tuned for that. it is scheduled to begin any moment now. and when it begins, we'll take you there life. >> the suspect charged in the the disappearance of hannah graham could be extradited back to virginia today. jesse matthew appeared in court after being arrested on a beach in texas. even if the police have their man, the search for hannah is far from over.

the 18-year-old has been missing two weeks. rod wheeler is a former homicide detective and a fox news contractor, rob, it is my understanding they will not ask him questions about hannah while he's in texas. explain the thinking about that? >> they can't ask him about hannah while in texas or charlottesville. as we know. mr. matthews injected his fifth and sixth amendment right and right to remain silent and represented by the attorney. by law we can't question them about that particular case. but it doesn't mean we can't ask him about something not related to the case and if the investigators are smart, they will try another approach and ask him about the reckless driving charge and see if alludes in to what happen to the hana. there are ways to get

something out of a person without being direct. in the paper work, there is things that raised questions. he's been charged with intent to defile and abducting with the attempt to defile. that suggest that police found something that tells them that he was intending to have sex with her or maybe did, without getting too graphic, what would that be? >> i think it would be text messages. that's what i believe. and that is a speculation, but experienced speculation. text messages and maybe conversation with hannah that a witness overheard. we know that. and the other thing we know by his own admission, he purchased alcohol for hannah. if he purchased alcohol for hannah, the question is what did he intend to do with her after

he left the bar after he purchased the alcohol. that is where the attempt to defile. >> is there a text message or mutual consent thing going on here? >> one thing that is required for abduction, intimidation or force or deception. i think it is deception. i think it is. but i think he duped her to going with her and why he bought the alcohol and he could have given her drugs. that's the thinking. police investigators and i know that is how they arrived with the abduction with the intent to defile. >> how do you lean on a suspect like this and his actions certainly seemed to suggest that this is a guilty person trying to run away from the police. and how dow lean on somebody like that to get information about where hannah is? >> right, the best way to do

that on this program this week. empanel a grand jury. >> you want answers now? >> you do, and it is going to take a long time. i think in this particular case, that will be the best way to get mr. matthews to talk and lock him in a statement. other than that police will have to find hannah and mr. matthews is not going to say a word. >> the fact that they are asking property owners to look through the fields and empty houses that are for sale. that is scary and solemn about the prospects of finding her alive at this point. as of today. it was two weeks. but the police first took his vehicle from him with a search warrant. first thing they told people to do is look in the lawn for tire tracks.

there must have been dirt and lead police to believe his vehicle was in an area where there was a lot of mud. they expanded search outside of charlottesville. >> yeah, the owner of the bar where she was last seen, apparently told investigators, she could barely walk when she left that place and was in his company. now as you said it may have been more than alcohol here. it could be something slipped into a drink. >> that's right. and who would know better than how to do that than mr. matthews who works in a hospital and knows about the drugs. i don't want to convict the guy right now. but we have to look at all of these things. it will play a role in this investigation. the goal as you know, jon, find hannah if we can and hopefully they will do that soon.

>> but if he has an attorney, and he seems to be knowledgeable of the criminal defense process. he went to the police station when he was not a official suspect and said he wanted an attorney. he doesn't have to say a word to the police, does he? >> he will not say a word. and he probably won't. and real quickly. there was two other individuals. mr. matthews roommates and the police are not talking about them. those two roommates if not one of them knows more on what they are saying. they were with mr. matthews immediately after hannah went missing and we have to connect the dots here. that's what i think. >> rod wheeler, and there is a lot of cases of missing women around there. there could be a tie, we don't know. >> there is a new report out

with positive economic news. the country's gdp grew. and a huge jump from the decline in the first three months of the year. improvements in growth. and we are slightly optimistic that it will continue in the winter. >> remember the winter numbers, this past time around not so good after all of the snow. >> authorities are recalling 850,000 vehicles because of a problem that stops the air bags from deploying in a crash. it includes 2013 or 14 ford cmaxes and fusion and escape suv and the lincoln mkz sedan. ford said no accidents or injuries were reported because of the problem. they will repair it for you at

no costs. >> and we are still awaiting the news briefing by some of the top officials in the pentagon, and set to get underway a few minutes ago. military timing being what it is. it is rare that these things are late. but general martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and his boss, defense secretary chuck hagel expected to brief the reporters on how things are going on the war on isis terrorist. you know the dannes and belgiams are joining and the british are limiting their air strikes to iraqi soil. but the coalition is growing and we'll hear more when we get the leaders there in the podium and the pentagon.

>> we are waiting a white house briefing as well. you can see the press rom, and waiting for folks to get seated and we'll bring questions about the latest and get the white house reaction to the newest member of the coalition, the uk. and saying they are not going to put troops on the ground there, they are going to engage in air strikes in iraq but not syria we'll be right back. apparently we'll not be right back. we are headed over to johnathon hunt right now. johnathon hunt is covering a story about ray rice and listen to this. the nfl what they may have known and when they may have known it about ray rice. a law enforcement official anonymously sent video of ray rice punching his fiance back in april. that chief said he never got it

and the nfl said no employee saw the footage until tmz released it earlier this month. johnathon, wow. >> reporter: this is another blow to the nfl's credibility on the handling of the ray rice assault case. they reported that a law enforcement officer. >> we are interrupting johnathon hunt for a briefing in the pentagon. chuck hagel, the defense secretary and general martin democrat chairman of the joint chiefs. >> we'll make comments and then take your questions. >> as i said this week has been an important week in the u.s. and coalition force as we again our strikes in syria along with france we have conducted over 200 air strikes in iraq against

isil in support with iraqi forces. with our partners we have 43 air strikes in syria these strikes will continue to deny isil freedom of movement and challenge its ability to plan and sustain the direction. we took action in syria against network of the al-qaeda veterans. they were actively plotting attacks against the united states and our friends and allies. in syria, there was no coordination and nor will there be with the assad regime nothing has changed with our position that has shifted our approach to

assad and his regime, because this regime, president assad lost all legitimacy to govern. as we continue the operations from the air, no one is under any illusions that air strikes alone will destroy isil. they are one element of the campaign against isil and the campaign that has diplomatic and economic intelligence and military components and working with coalition partners in a new government in iraq. this week, we have moved forward. the security council focused in stopping the flow of fighters. the united states and coalition partners are intensifying efforts to cut off isil finance and continue to support the new iraqi government and the reform

and reconciliation, because that is the only long- term solution to this secitarian intentions to enable isil's arrival in iraq. president obama met with the prime minister. the president affirmed america's support for him and the new government and people. yesterday secretary kerry met with members of the council. the president and vice-president spoke with turkish president to strengthen our coalition against isil. senior administration officials are coordinating with our partners. they are seeing progress. and now that we have the support of congress, we are moving forward with our plan to train and ekwiep moderate syrian opposition. we have begun detailed military planning for the mission and

assessment teams arrived in saudi arabia. and in iraq, isil strong holds continue to pose a major challenge but our support for iraq and kurdish forces is enabeling the iraqi units to go on the offensive. as the president empsidewaysed on wednesday in his speech in the united nations, this broad, diplomatic and economic military campaign is underwritten by a broad multinational coalition of 40 nations and five regional partners and the coalition is continuing to expand. over the last two days, governments of belgium and denmark and netherlands announced their intention to participate in the coalition air strikes in iraq. a few minutes ago before coming down here, i spoke with the

britain's defense minister michael fallon and called me as he left the chambers of the parliment that the british parliment voted 524 to 43 to join the air campaign in iraq and with the united states and coalition partners. a broad coalition will be a cornerstone of our strategy against isil. and we appreciate all of the contributions of friends and allies as we work closely with them and coordinate the participation and efforts. sustaining our broad and diplomatic and economic campaign will require a long- term commitment from the united states and all of our partners and allies. this will not be an easy or brief effort. we are at the beginning, not the end. we are in the beginning and not the end of our effort to degrade and destroy isil. i know that americans have confidence in the skill and

professionalism of our men and women in uniform and our exceptional military leadership. when i had the opportunity to visit sitcomwith president obama in tampa, we made a point of expressing our deep appreciation to general austin and the sint comteam. and that is keeping america secure. i am proud of him and the president is proud of him and we are all proud of him. we are proud of the men and women who do so much for the country and men and women down range that are carrying out the mission with courage and dedication and resolve. marte? >> i would like to reiterate the campaign against isil will be a persistent and sustained campaign and will take time. as i said last week, this is iraq first strategy but not iraq

only one. our coalition strikes demonstrate isil they have no safe haven in syria. they are disrupting the isil command of control and logistics activities and in iraq, empowering the iraqi partners to go on offensive. we'll build and sustain a credible coalition to include arab states and set a stage for a broader campaign against isil. military actions include disrupting the financing and interdicting and movement of foreign fighters and exposing the isil false narratives and stripping away their cloak of religious legitimacy in which they hide. we are balancing pressing challenging in the other region. ebola outbreak is the largest the world has seen.

it is a complex emergency beyond a public health crisis and has significant humanitarian, economic, and political and security dimensions. and as part of the international response, we are leveraging unique hubs to train for health care personnel and engineering support. i just returned on tuesday from a trip with france and lithiana and croatia. russia's aggression in eastern europe and vulnerabilities to the nato southern mrafrng stemming from isil and other regional thets and enduring commitments in afghanistan will command the attention of european allies. i had a chance to visit the american cemetery with my french colleague in normandy. that sacred ground is a testament to the men and women

who safe guard our freedoms. and today, they are conducting hundreds of exercises across the globe. actions that deterred conflict and assured our allies and they are foremost on our mind and with our families. with that, we'll be happy to take your questions. >> mr. secretary, you mentioned turkey a moment ago. turkey is raising the prospect of a buffer zone in syria and iraq. and raised the prospect of a no-fly zone over syria chairman dempsey spoke about that in the past. would the united states consider supporting actively to protect a no-fly zone or buffer zone to enforce one. and can you please give me explicit examples of how the united states is protecting against the civilian casulties

in syria? >> thank you. first question, buffer zone issue. as i mentioned and you know the president and vice-president spoke with prime minister this week. and we continue to talk with turkish leadership about their different ways to contribute to the coalition. and the issue of a buffer zone is not a new issue as you all know. and we discuss all of these possibilities and will continue to talk about what the turks believe they require. they know clearly that isil and what is happening in syria and iraq is a clear and a present threat. and danger to them. they are now hosting 1.3 million

refugees and all of the other dimensions of the isil threat to their country and people. as to collateral damage, our military, every mission that it plans, always factors in first, collateral damage questions and assessments. and there is no strike, no military operation ever undertaken in our military without that clear assessment. and then a judgment has to be used as to whether we would go forward with that mission. it is first and foremost, the priority of our commanders who have responsibility for strikes to make sure, to do everything they can to make sure there is no collateral damage and specifically civilian damages.

>> thank you, mr. secretary. one of the things you are seeing in the air campaign, is the fruition of two decades of ability and procurements and training and education activities with our allies in the region who are performing just as well as we are in the issue of precision and reducing the possibility of collateral damage. you can't reduce it to 0. over time, isil will probably publish video alleging civilian casulties. we have a sweep to determine knots only how the strike but the results televisiafter the f >> and can i ask you to clarify

the issue of no-fly zone or buffer zone with turkey. >> a buffer zone could become a possibility but that is not what our campaign is. >> you are aware of the threat by syrian kurts and there was a fire fight playing out with the isis fighters and kurds on cnn and they are facing the same threat yazidis faced why is the u.s. not coming to the aid of the syrian kurds? >> and well, first of all, as general dempsey said, we have a complete isr picture of all of that area including the area that you talk about.

and so we are aware of what is going on. were discussing how and what we can do with our coalition partners, to help them deal with it. and so it is not a matter of us not being aware of it. and nor actively looking at the options we have to deal with it. >> does that mean turkey is more likely. >> jim, as i nsd my answer to laura, we are talking to turkey about this and all of the aspects of the isil threat. >> it is little more than a week since you testified before congress and mentioned it was the right step, you would recommend deploying u.s. ground forces in certain rules if you believed it was the right thing. since then we heard from many administration officials

attempting to walk that back, it sounded to me and others, you as a commander saying honestly and sincerely what you would do and would recommend what was necessary to accomplish the mission, do you stand by that? and if necessary go to the president and say mr. president obama i need ground troops in certain roles to succeed here. >> would i provide my best military, the answer is absolutely. if you are suggesting that i might recommend that a large ground force to counter, absolutely. it doesn't have to be americans. ideally with the kind of issues we are confronting there, the ideal and only truly effective force that will be able to reject isil from within their own population is a force

comprised of iraqis and kur dids. and moderate syrian opposition. >> i am not talking about a large presence. i am talking about helping in targeting air strikes or forward deploying advisors, are those specific missions you might ask the president. >> i stand by the president. the president gave me a mission. destroy isil. i will recommend to him what it takings. >> every meeting that i have been in with the president of the united states and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. the president and i made it clear as secretary of defense, the president expects, the united states, the direct and honest military advice that general dempsey and others in

military uniforms give. he relies on it and he said he relies on it. >> and second question to general dempsey. what are the resource implications of the long sustained campaign? can you do it in your current budgeting plan. you have a 58 billion and in the budget, can you accommodate the sustained campaign with those levels of spending? >> we are generally spending roughly since this started 7 or 10 million a day. that is fronted out of the overseas con tingency operations and we are going to require, additional funding from congress as we go forward. you know the continuing

resolution is due in december 11th, and we are working now with appropriate committees on how to go forward with authorizations and funding. >> i work closely with the service chiefs when we submitted the budget and it went through the white house for approval and it was sent to congress. we could accomplish the nation's security needs with that budget. with certain assumptions. the number of commitments would be down. and we would get flexibility to change health care and retired weapon's system and infrainstruct you have. and things that we were looking for in terms of flexibility are minimally delivered. do i assess right now going in to the fall review that we will have budget problems, yes. >> 26,000 troops in afghanistan

to 9800 next year and spending four pbt 6 billion in afghanistan. can't you move it to the isil campaign? >> this is a great tutorial for budget. oca is gas money and baseline budget is what builds and sustains. we have to separate those when we talk about budget. >> and we will be. marcus. >> has the building done a long- term analysis. how long? >> we are doing that right now. we have to. we would have to project out as we are, and the baseline budgets, that is the critical part of this. and so, yes, we are doing that now. >> and if i could answer. that how long will it take to recanture mosul.

great question. i will answer it with a question. how long is it going to take the new government of iraq to convince the sunni and shias and kurds that the future should rest with them? and this is a campaign that strings activities together and one of the activities is a government of iraq that separates because of its policys and draw the people pack to them and so isil can no longer swim freely in the ranks. >> chairman dempsey, do you believe that it will take in fact, some ground troops inside syria to destroy isis? and if they are not americans, do you have enough faith in training 5,000 free syrian army troops. the nonaggressive militants, to achieve that goal and to destroy isis.

>> i never heard the phase nonaggressive militants. it sounds like an action. air power alone. and there is no military solution to isil. military only solution. and secondly there is no air power solution to isil in iraq or syria. there has to be a ground component to isil and syria. and we believe that the path to develop that is syria moderate opposition. 5,000 is not the end estate. we have had estimates of 12- 15,000 to recanture lost territory in eastern syria and i am confident that we establish their training if we do it right and not fast. they have to have military leaders that bind them together and have a political structure

in which they can hook and that will take time. >> mr. secretary. you said that earlier this week, that the u.s. will defend the free syrian army. >> are you talking about engaging the syria forces? >> i think the question was asked if those we begin training if we were attacked and would we help them in >> christine. and what was thedition to and what will they do there. and will they love joint operation system. >> and first of all. >> i can help you with that one. >> and in fact the general's son is with the if he ever division. but you recall that the president announced to the

nation what his strategy was and what he was instructing the defense department to do. he mentioned that there would be an increase of 475 personnel. and so the command and control function of that, will come out of the first division. as other personnel will be assigned as well from other components. and that's why. they are going, general. >> and yeah, they are a coherrant and standing war fighting nation that knows how to manage the a ticketists. >> the group that went in initially was making the contact with the syria forces. and this is an organization that has the bad width and skill sets

to manage a cam tan. >> can you give us an update about the training of iraqi forces and what are the rest of you as troops that do the training and a advice. >> of the 26 big agreeds and frepairing it accept advice and rekweping. we are working with the iraqi military leaders to insures whatever it is on the ground. it is not our cam pan where we three them on for all of the activities in and around balg bag up to now. had been iroll and so, we are

making progress. we have to have a larger campaign that >> what risk. by the way as i said highway to (itment fand we can't ever drive risk to it is young women and they will expepped to the sam they ndo you have any reason to believe that the isis. and others have been killed in the air strikes? >> we have received no reports

of collateral damage up to this point in the campaign. but it is it always some latency in reporting on the air campaign. we are alert for it it. they also have flown isr to try to confirm or deny battle damage assessments. as for the, weather some of the leaders have been killed. what we do is we monitor various kinds of intelligence. we scan social media, which is normally the first place you find out, frankly. but it's too soon to tell. >> who is the head of the free syrian opposition, the moderate rebels that you are planning to train, and chairman dempsey, do you need spotters on the ground to be more precise in their air strikes and sear yashgs and is that what's stopping you from helping the kurds along the turkish border right now? >> well, first of all, we're in

the process of setting up the vetting system for those that we'll begin training moderate opposition syrian fighters. >> who is the head of that opposition? >> we don't have a head of it in that we are vetting and will continue to vet through our regional partners, state department, intelligence departments, as they will build their coalitions with our help. we are not going to instrict them who their leaders are. they'll make their own decision on who their leaders are. >> the question about whether we need spotters, as you say, for air controllers on the ground to help in syria and whether that's a limiting factor in what's going on the -- with the syrian kurds. the answer is no. as i mentioned, testimony, the issue of the requirement for air controllers on the ground manifests when the forces join.

>> i would also remind us, actually, that you can't be every place and see everything. i know that somebody has an iphone taking a picture of it, but that does not mean that we're anywhere nearby. the centcom commander has been gifb tasks and prioritizes his resources, and may not be looking right now at the syrian border. >> thank you. thank you. >> fairly lengthy and illuminating news conference there at the pentagon involving swren martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and chuck hagel talking about the effort to take on isis in iraq as well as in syria. fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland was listening and joins us now.

interesting there at the end. you heard jennifer griffin asking the question about whether or not the ab sebs of american forward arab controllers basically on the ground is behindering the use of air strikes there along the syrian border where kurdish syrians -- syrian kurds have been under attack. the chairman -- joint chief said, no, it's not a necessity right now. >> what struck me about the press conference was a couple of things. when asked several times about turkey, are they going to participate, are they going to join in, both gentlemen, both the chairman and the secretary said, well, we're in negotiation with them. they have received a lot of refugees. there have been 1.3 million refugees into turkey in just the last week alone. the question what does turkey do? how do they participate? do they join the coalition? do they seal the border between

syria and turkey? if they join the coalition, do they join with air strike? would they potentially offer boots on the ground, or would they continue to do what they've done so far, which is humanitarian assistance? the other thing that was interesting was when they asked the general, general dempsey, what about mosul? how long is it going to take you to retake mosul, to take mosul, the northern city away from isis? he said i have to ask you a question. how long is it going to take the iraqi government to get buy in from the three groups in iraq. from the kurds and sunnis in particular. there was no clearance for that, and it almost sounded like, well, until we get the iraqi government, the new iraqi government to get its act together and to get a minister of defense and to get its own house in order, it's going to be very difficult to go the next step, which is have the iraqi army stand up and fight. >> right.

>> can humpty dumpty be put back together again? one of the reasons the iraqi army faded away was because isis had the personal cell phone numbers of the generals and they were texting them right before the battle saying we have your family, we are going to kill your own family members, your wives and your children unless you stand down. >> wow. interesting too. he was talking about the effort. secretary hagel was talking about the training or equipping the moderate fighters in that country. he was asked who is the leader? he said, well, we don't really have one yet. i thought that was kind of -- i mean, i understood his explanation. we're not going to be forcing them to choose their leaders and choose who we talk to, but if

you don't have a leader to select, how do you know who their followers are? >> and this has been the problem all along in syria. now, it's not iraq. this is syria. we've been trying to identify who is the moderate syrians and can we support them? can we arm them? can we train them? somehow they seem to think that now we'll be able to identify that and take them to saudi arabia, give them weapons, send them back into syria and the fight and at the same time make sure that the weapons we give them don't fall into the hands of isis. >> yeah. tough duty all the way around. >> heavy lift. >> k.t., thanks for sharing your expertise with us. >> thanks. >> we're getting information out of the white house, and their conversations with turkey. we'll try to bring that to you in just a minute. interesting stuff coming out of that. in the meantime, the global coalition to take on the isis terror group is now growing by the day. great britain to start air strikes. we'll have a listen.

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>> i am off to africa. >> it's been wonderful to be with you. >> i'll be back in a couple of weeks. >> have a great hike. watch those knees. >> shannon green in for gretchen carlson on "the real story." >> have a good one. bye-bye. we begin with the fox news alert today. a beheading on american soil. the fbi joining the investigation after local police say a man reportedly killed one co-worker and then attempted to stab mother. here's what law enforcement is saying about what may be the motive. >> information obtained that he recently started to try to convert his co-workers to the muslim religion. >> police say the suspect 30-year-old alton noland was terminated from his job at a food distribution center near oklahoma city yesterday. much more to come on this developing story as we get it. u.s. and coalition partners launching new air strikes hitting isis in iraq and syria