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recently converted himself. police say the alleged suspect, alton nolen, beheaded one woman and attacked another before he was shot and wounded. for the very latest details we turn to fox's own adam hasly on the ground in los angeles tonight. adam. >> reporter: yeah, sean. there's a lot of questions arpd this case as you might imagine. the local police in moore, oklahoma, are all over this of course working with the fbi trying to figure out why this happened. are there larger implications here or larger connections here? it all happened yesterday in moore, oklahoma, a suburb of oklahoma city. 30-year-old alton nolen, according to witnesses and detectives, earlier in the day has been fired where he worked as a production line employee. after he was fired he went to his car, drove to the parking lot, rammed into another car and walked into the office, attacked two women randomly and attacked with a stan ard issued knife used at the facility. he cut his first victim's head off. as he was stabbing his second victim, the company's coo, mark vaughan pulled out his service

weapon and you can hear him shooting and injuring the suspect at the end of the call. >> we don't know where the person went. he went through our front office, stabbed a woman in our customer service department. can you hear this in the background? >> is that him? he's back? >> yeah. it sounds like he's running around out here. and that's a gunshot. >> got a gun shot. >> the fbi is looking into reports that nolen not only tried to convert people at his work to islam but also witnesses say he was shouting islamic phrases during his attack. detectives say he was a recent convert to islam. that's where his prison stint is being investigated whether or not he was converted in prison and if so was he radicalized there possibly. he spent time in prison for drug-related charges and for assaulting an officer released back in march of 2013. two more notes, the woman he killed, 54-year-old colleen hufford.

neighbors say she was a lovely lady. the second note is local islamic community in oklahoma city says they are worried about possible acts against them now in response to this. there's no mention of whether or not they were looking at the possibility there might be some other radicalized elements out there. sean, a lot going on here as you might imagine. a lot of people are on edge in this part of the country. >> thank you so much. joining me now with more on the investigation is the moore police sergeant, jeremy lewis is with us. sergeant, first of all, thoughts and prayers out to the community. i know you were hit hard after the tornado. i was there and saw the devastation myself. tell us what you know at this hour. >> at this time it's -- a lot hasn't changed today. the investigation's ongoing as far as our detectives investigating the homicide portion of the event. the fbi's actually investigating the background of the suspect at this time. >> is there anything that we know that might have been said as this was taking place? for example, was he a disgruntled employee? did this have to do with islam? obviously we have isis in the news, beheadings are in the

news. we have a call by isis to have lone attacks, have sole people go out there and attack. this happens right after that. i haven't heard of a beheading that i can think of in years. do you suspect it can be related? >> that -- all of those are issues that are being looked at and investigated. that's why once some of the indications of his past and his ties to the islamic religion that's whenever we notified the fbi and involved them in the investigation. they have a lot more resources in that area. and that's why that portion of the investigation has been turned over to them. >> correct me if i'm wrong, it is a very difficult, brutal, evil, barbaric thing to sever somebody's head. and he used a knife to do this? do we know how long a period of time this took, sir? >> just from the 911 calls,

again, that also is something detectives are looking at. but just from the time we were there in less than a minute and a half we had officers at the scene. the shots were actually fired on the dispatch call before we arrived. but the time that the call came in until we were there was a very short period of time. so this attack was very quick. and was continuing until the deputy fired his weapon. >> let me ask you there was reports that he himself had been a recent convert to islam. and apparently he had tattoo certain islamic saying peace be upon you, which is used as a greeting by muslims. and we're told that he had that in his last prison stint, which would have been back in 2013. so that might have been a considerable more period of time. do we know when he converted? >> i actually do not. i do not have that information. have not been given any information on exactly when he converted to islam. >> what do we know about his co-workers that were saying he was trying to convert them?

and do we have any indication that that was related to his firing? >> i don't have that. as far as that type of information, once that was given to our detectives, that's when they contacted the fbi. and they have -- honestly, they have not given me any information revolving around the statements or any indication of exactly what the reason for him entering the business. our detectives do have a lot of information they're looking at with the fbi, but i myself have not been privilege to that information. >> can you confirm if what people are reporting in terms of his website are actually his website? because there's pictures of him up there, a lot of things related to radical islam up there. is that the website you believe is his? >> i have received pictures of a website. i can't confirm that that is his website. i know that the fbi and our

local detectives are aware of a specific website. i believe it's a facebook page that they are looking into. but we -- myself, i cannot confirm that that is actually his site. >> okay. because i can show -- i know that there was one beheaded -- one picture of somebody beheaded on there. i'm not sure if you're aware of that. and, you know, for example things we suspect might be his says america's so-called helps iraq which not, why can't you help the gaza citizens against israel. i upload this picture because america and israel are wicked, wake up muslims. you have another facebook post that talks about why the world hates america. you know, everything god says don't do america does. don't be intoxicated. don't gamble. don't lust. marijuana, newborns and circumcision. man for women, women for man, america's legalized same-sex marriage, america sells in its

grocery stores pork, cut off their hands, america, et cetera. if someone gets killed here -- it goes on and on. is that the site police are investigating? can you confirm that part? >> yes. we are aware of that site. and that is being looked at to confirm who actually is the owner of that site. >> so is there anything else that maybe you can tell us at this stage in the investigation what we know? do we know if he attended a local mosque? do we know who he associated with? do you suspect he was acting alone? >> we at this time we have not had any contact with him as far as our agency. he actually lived and worked in our city. he does have a prior criminal past, but as far as our police department this is the first incident we have had with him. so it's just actually been less than 24 hours we're still gathering as much information about this person as we can to figure out who his associates are and what exactly he has been

doing. >> sayid mohamed is a spokesperson for the islamic society of greater oklahoma city. and he said he's concerned they're taking more security alerts. but as a result of this incident and he said anti-muslim sentiments could be heightened because of what has happened here and what's happened with isis. then he said they have this isis thing on their minds and now this guy has brought it to america. what do you make of his comment? >> well, you know, i understand his comments. of course there's tension everywhere right now with everything that's going on here and abroad. and incidents like this which that's why we're investigating to find out exactly what ties this person had, but if we do find out, you know, that he was some extremist or anything like that that that's the way it will be handled. the fbi ultimately will take over the investigation.

>> one last question. you talked about mark vaughan in an interview, he was the oklahoma county reserve deputy. he was the guy that stepped in because he had started stabbing another woman. and he shot the person involved here. you called him a hero. he's a hero in your mind? >> absolutely. there's no doubt he would have definitely killed the second female. and there were over 200, 300 more people inside the business that he was going after. it was obvious he was not going to stop if mark would not have shot him, i don't know how many people he would have killed. >> all right. sergeant, thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. my next guests were at the scene of the crime, vaughan foods in moore, oklahoma, before it was shut down for the investigation. here to tell us what they saw, sarah jensen and rob morris. sarah, we'll start with you. you got there before the police did? or before they actually set up

police tape, et cetera? >> i did. you know, we office only probably about a mile from the actual food distribution plant. and so i was the first on the scene. i started getting my camera out and kind of gathering facts trying to figure out what exactly was going on there. i'm not going to lie, after about ten minutes of being there i was told this is still an active shooter situation where they thought it could be. so i was asked to get back in my car. and from my car is where i really watched officers, you know, walking around heavily armed really making sure all these employees were safe and in a good spotd and that they had secured the perimeter. >> it was first as i understand it reported yesterday as a stabbing. did you know then and there that it was a beheading? >> no, i did not. actually, we didn't learn that information until early this morning that that was actually the extent of that woman's injuries. we just knew she had been stabbed and her injuries were quite severe obviously leading to her death. and then there was a second woman that was injured

critically. but that's all we knew as of last night. >> it's pretty scary in every way. if you look back, isis on september 21st their chief spokesman actually put out, if you can kill a disbelieving american or european especially the spiteful and filthy french or australian or canadian or any other disbeliever from the disbeliever's waging war including citizens of countries that have entered into the coalition against the islamic state, kill him in any manner or way however it may be. and this was the call, rob, for the lone wolf to act here. so beheadings are in the news. i don't remember a time in my memory when there was one that we have reported on. and then all of a sudden they call for a lone wolf. and then this incident happens. from your standpoint, and listening to the community, what connection? >> well, obviously the community's quite disturbed. and you're right, it's chilling when you put those two things together because there haven't

been beheadings that we're aware of. and so everybody's aware of what isis has done with journalists recently. so it's real easy to make that connection. and obviously everybody takes that seriously. and what we're hearing in the community, first of all, moore doesn't ever get much in the way of murder. the most we ever had in one year was four, and that was about six or seven, maybe even eight years ago. typically it's one murder or no murders in a year's time. and to have one this heinous happen is really has a chilling effect on the entire community. is it directly connected to the beheadings and the call for the lone wolf attack? time will bear that out. i have confidence in the fbi. and i have a great deal of confidence in my local police in finding that out. >> thank you for being with us. we'll continue to have more developments and analysis of this brutal beheading in oklahoma as well as the suspect's ties to radical islam with our terror experts ahead on

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welcome back to "hannity." ties to islam, well, america's been warned yet again that the threat of extremism on the homeland is real. warning about the group's next target. watch this. >> so there will be a lot more martyrdom operations coming from the islamic state going forward. >> there will be attacks in new york -- a lot of brothers there are mobilizing right now. >> really? and what are they mobilizing for? >> mobilizing for a brilliant attack, my friend. >> and that's not all. just yesterday the iraqi prime minister said isis was plotting to attack subway systems in the u.s. and in paris. he said it's imminent. here to tell us what all this means for our safety and to talk about the oklahoma beheading suspect, ties to radical islam, terror suspect former cia covert

operations operator mike baker with us. steve, i knowed when the iraqi prime minister said that the attack on new york subways and paris subways were imminent, our government was very fast to just dismiss it, there's no threat that we know of. why would they be so quick to do that considering he's saying their intelligence agencies found it? >> well, i must say the dismissals of his warnings didn't come from political officials. they came from career intelligence officials. and i'm sort of sympathetic with those denials because i've spoken to fbi officials today, i was on the phone with fbi officials all day today on various matters including the threats and new threats issued by isis against particular individuals against the u.s. and including the attack in oklahoma. and i don't think the intelligence bears up what the prime minister said. he simply didn't provide the evidence for the statement. but i do think that the call,

the general calls for decapitations for killings of americans, for australians, brits, anybody who is an enemy "of islam" is being taken very seriously. and i think we are on the highest alert since the days after 9/11 for terrorist attacks on the homeland. >> let me ask you this, mike. the iraqi prime minister says this, but we have the fbi director comey talking about this group, the khorasan group, that we've just really been learning about a lot in recent days saying that group is at the top of the list of things i worry about. that's a little -- to me it's contradictory, no? if the fbi director feels bad about that group, we have the warning coming from the iraqi prime minister, one they're saying they're worried about, one they're saying don't worry about. >> i think part of the concern what the iraqi prime minister was saying, a, it was strange for him to disseminate

information like that. normally it wouldn't come through those channels. we haven't been able to corroborate within the intel community or as steve mentioned through fbi or law enforcement. so setting that aside and for whatever reason, again, you have to take that and you have to still attack it as if it's valid until you can prove that it's not credible as a threat. but overall we have all the information we need to say that the threat to the homeland is very, very serious at this point. whether we're talking about from khorasan or the islamic state, we know that they've been having increasing success in doing exactly what they've been trying to do for years in gathering up western recruits so that they can release them into the homeland and create these attacks. >> here's my big question. assuming for a minute here that all of what i have found that seems to be this guy involved in this beheading's facebook page and everything that is put up there support of radical islam including somebody that's been beheaded. i have a picture.

i won't show it if that turns out, steve emerson, to be his website, my question is why isn't the fbi finding these things? why isn't law enforcement finding these things ahead of time? that would be a red alert, a siren ought to be going off looking for these sites, no? >> well, under your assumption, yes. but you know how many websites there are, how many facebook pages there are? there was another incident this past week where our research group found that isis had tweeted a website for -- or a site for a 1100-page terrorist manual which included the most incredibly technically advanced -- >> don't we have the technology that you put in a search that we'd have the ability to find certain key words that are on certain sites? there's got to be some technological advancement within our government that would be able to do that rather simply. >> yeah, but you know what?

if you put in those words, you still need humans to look at it. this is where ed snowden's hysterical accusations went wrong. you can pick up all those words, but the fact is you pick up 10 million words, you still need a human to say this means something. so the reality is they don't have enough agents to really look at all the facebook pages that have radical postings. and in fact this past week i can tell you that the fbi missed something that was quite big because they didn't have enough people to look at the 25,000 -- look. isis issues 25,000 tweets every single day. do you think the bureau has the ability to look at every single one? >> i would make it a top priority. but maybe if we have to prioritize, i certainly think that's got to be at the top of the list. mike, your quick response to that. >> you pointed to a very important issue here and i think it's not getting enough concern,

which is look, the pendulum switches. it moves all the time between civil liberties and protection of the homeland. >> no civil liberties issue though, mike. this is what they're putting on their own websites. >> my point being that a concern i think we need to be dealing with is over the past couple of years no surprise worriness from the war on terror, the narrative we've been decimating al qaeda, the snowden leaks, it's caused the pendulum, it's called a calibration, pendulum moved back towards privacies and civil liberties just at the time we've got this increased threat. we've got to be dealing with it. we've gone to a less aggressive posture because that's where the administration has taken us. the d.o.j. recently told the fbi you can't use religious factors in looking at and identifying terrorist threats. >> guys, we got to run. thank you both. appreciate it. coming up, in light of the terrifying beheading in oklahoma, americans across the country tonight are wondering how can they protect themselves in their own communities?

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nonbelievers, kill them any manner they can. any way. however it may be. now they say they'll meet us in new york and raise their flag at our white house. >> very strange thing that being mentioned by isis i don't think really is just a threat. >> you think it's just a threat to james foley and the other people that they cut their heads off? >> well, this is something unacceptable. in islam something condemned by all the muslims for me and personal i think they do not have any capability to attack. >> they don't have any ability to attack? they attacked us on 9/11, the first trade center bombing, the embassy in tanzania and kenya were attacked. the u.s.s. coal was attacked. radical islamist terror attacks, boko haram, all these radicals.

why aren't people out there saying stop hijacking our religion? do you ever say that? >> always. i'm glad you're here. this is perfect example, all muslims are not like these fanatic nuts. >> i agree. >> we have a gentleman here, i'm sure he's a peace loving man, family loving and all that, but the problem is it's not expressed with the radicals. when you got new york city now with de blasio, what he does now is you cannot keep any intelligence, sean. they can't go stop and frisk someone. and they can't keep intelligence on file. it's illegal now. that judge, that federal judge made it that way. >> well, i've had these exchanges. do you think the islamic community, the moderate islamic community and imams have been outspoken enough against radical islamists? i don't care which group it is, those that teach people that they'll get 72 virgins in heaven

if they kill innocent men, women and children or kill christians and jews? >> okay. this is what i always said small number of people maybe they consider to be even 3% or 4%. so this cannot be, i mean, let entire muslim be accused -- >> i didn't say that. but isis has 50,000 fighters. >> okay. >> maybe more now. >> 50,000 fighters. maybe more as you said. you are right. but we always condemn their actions. we always talk to the community during friday speeches telling them that this is not islamic. what they're doing is not islamic. they're two different things. muslims, radicals, a few of them in islam which is a perfect religion which mean peace and submission. >> you know, sean, listening to this gentleman, which he is quite a gentleman. he seems like a real gentleman. difference from some of the

other people you've had on here in the last few months. he seems like a real gentleman. but the fact of the matter is we need more good muslims to step up to counteract all the negatives that are out there. we have an american here, we've been attacked, we've been a nd it continues. and now they're saying they're coming back. then you have under the name of muslim religion they have that you can go and rape woman -- rape young girls and then kill them, chop their heads off. this is not an islam of peaceful people. >> let me play -- because this is important. i've interviewed other clerics over time. one of them was just arrested in great britain. >> the beard. >> that's the guy. i want to play this. >> listen to this gentleman. >> and we can compare because i agree, you sound very peaceful. you seem like you want to condemn radical islam. let me play this for people. >> if i don't convert to islam, should i die? >> no, you can live under the

sharia. >> i can live under sharia. oh, thank you, oh, so much. >> every muslim knows that islam is occupying muslim land and obviously this needs to be repelled. they need to return to where they came from. >> did you or did you not say people who commit adultery should be stoned to death? did you say that? >> that is not my saying but i believe that certainly. >> should gay people be stoned to death? >> you know, homosexuality and bestiality -- >> should they be stoned to death? >> bestiality is legal in america. you can have a relationship with just about whoever you want. in islam, created adam and eve -- >> should gay people be stoned to death? should gay people be stoned to death? >> under the islamic state people would not be doing this relationship in the public community. if they do then there would be punishment. >> eventually the world's going to wake up to what i would say and every radical islamist like you will be wiped off the face of the earth because you have no respect for women, you have no respect for people of other

faith, you have no respect for life. you are radical and you want your relimg onor no religion. i don't want your sharia law and neither does anybody in great britain. >> you don't have a choice, sean. it's coming to a place near you. it's coming to a place near you. >> well, you're one sick, evil, s.o.b. all right. he's been on the program a couple times. he was just arrested. we believe the facebook page of the guy in oklahoma, or put it up, it says a lot of the same things about no gambling, no lust, marijuana, circumcision, men and women. this is out there and believed by a significant number of people. you do realize there are a lot of radical people out there that have radicalized your religion. you do realize that? >> well, yes, i believe that there are a few radicals. not only in islam. in every community they got radicals. every group of people they got good ones and bad ones. what surprise me is why always they're doing things in the name of islam.

this is not right. >> that's what bothers you. >> yes. >> even my catholic religion back a thousand years ago when they had the crusades we were barbaric, the pope was a barbaric person when he ordered them to kill muslim women and children in their communities. we all know. but we advance forward. and that's what should happen with the muslim religion should change and advance and change some of the thoughts and the views of a thousand years ago. and we all could live together. it would be the greatest thing in the world. >> i don't think we can negotiate with radicals that believe in killing innocent people. >> but you have gentlemen like this. >> i agree. i didn't say him. >> i mean, this represents a peaceful loving muslim people. i have a lot of respect for this man. >> i do too. >> well, i always said that there's two different thigpens people confuse. confuse islam and muslim, you cannot judge the religion of islam by the act of muslims. muslims are people who try to

practice maybe 50, 60 or even 20%. some have even 0%. some people have a different way and different idealist -- >> you live on 9 6th street? >> yes. >> i'm very familiar with the mosque up there. i was a detective up there. >> oh, yeah. >> thank you, guys. appreciate it. coming up right here "hannity". >> sheikh bin bayyah, there -- >> president obama talking about this man, a radical muslim sheikh who supported a fatwa. when we come back, the one and only charles krauthammer responds. ♪ there's never been a better time to come to bass pro shops

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consistently exposed and confronted and refuted in the light of day. look at the new forum for promoting peace in muslim societies. sheikh bin bayyah described its purpose, declare war on war so the outcome will be peace on peace. >> that was the president at the u.n. on wednesday quoting and praising a so-called moderate muslim scholar named sheikh bin bayyah. he seems to be forgetting that in 2004 the so-called moderate served as vice president to a radical muslim group that issued a fatwa against american troops encouraging all muslims to violently repel and kill american soldiers serving in iraq. so why did our commander in chief choose to honor this man in front of the u.n.? joining us to react is the one and only charles krauthammer, his latest book number one on

the "new york times" best sellers list. has sold more than 1 million copies making it arguably the best selling collection of nonfiction in u.s. -- well, and for the year. charles, thanks for being with us. congrats on the book. the first point, charles, in may the president promoted him back in may and then they apologized earlier. how could he make the same mistake twice? >> yeah, well, he seems to have an unrevised view of a man that, you're right, the state department abjectly apologized for having praised him. but look, this is consistent in this administration to downplay the islamist character of the barbarism that we see around the world. you go back to 2011, james clapper, our chief -- the director of national intelligence, said that the muslim brotherhood in egypt was a largely secular organization. this of course is preposterous. look how we coddled and coddled

the islamist regime when it was in power in cairo. and in this very speech as he always does the president refused to associate the violence around the world, the barbarism that we see in these countries with islamist beliefs. he calls it violent extremism. he used the phrase three times at the u.n. as if the violence that we see around the world in nigeria, in mali, in libya, in kenya, in somalia, in yemen, in of course syria, iraq, in pakistan and afghanistan. as if all of these by an amazing coincidence are perpetrated in the name of islam. of course the majority of muslims are peaceful. but to deny the roots of this ideology in a great religion is to deny reality and to intellectually and morally disarm those who want to fight it. if you can't name the enemy, you

don't want to identify the enemy, you can't correctly fight the enemy. for god sakes, even the united arab emirates called isis islamic extremism. and isis itself calls itself the islamic state. they proudly proclaim this. and obama denies it. >> how do you explain this? it's inexplicable. why the mysterious reluctance, resistance? i agree. i don't think you can defeat an enemy unless you identify it, charles. where's the fear coming from? >> what do you think i am a psychiatrist? >> yeah, i do actually. >> it's really hard to go into his head. i would assume the reason he does it is because he's afraid that if he acknowledges the obvious reality people will associate islam with this barbarism and make them equivalent whereas nobody is asking him to do that. that would clearly be unfair and false.

but people are asking him to recognize the elementary fact that this enemy we are attacking us everywhere on the planet from all these countries i talked about and then of course in the united states as there have been attacks of course in europe and elsewhere is rooted in a religion, an interpretation of a religion. and that is not an insignificant relationship. >> let me ask you this. so we have isis beheadings in the news. then you have isis this week calling for lone wolfs to go out and kill in america and other countries. then you have this incident in oklahoma. it would seem on the surface to be connected in my view. it's too early to tell. an investigation has to come through, but i can hear people already saying, well, you don't know that. the resistance even there to put those dots together when it's very likely to be that way especially looking at this guy's facebook page. what's your reaction? >> but even if they are not connected by communication or direct orders, they obviously are drawing their inspiration

from an ideology which is spread largely on the internet. but a lot of it in mosques around the world in prayers and transmitted, you know, for instance the guys who did the bombing in boston. they weren't immune from this in the united states, they get it from sources, they share the ideology. and i think it's very important that we name it. and we talk about it with obvious, clear and nonapologetic terms. >> charles krauthammer, good to see you. thank you for being with us as always. appreciate it. coming up, eric holder's out. the reverend al sharpton loudly boasts he's helping the administration find holder's replacement. this is not a joke. it's happening. we'll explain coming up next.

>> sharpton tried to walk that back by saying he was not involved in decision making. here with reaction is contributors, good to see you both. >> how are you? >> just assuming he's speaking the truth the first time. take a look. >> you ain't nothing. you're a punk. now come, and do something. >> we were kings.

>> deep connections to the white house one way or another. is there often. >> incredible. asking him to be involved in picking the next attorney general is asking arsonists to

pick the next fire chief. very often, people die. a freddie's fashion mart up in harlem. a white owner. he called him white interloeper and led a protest. one of sharpton's followers went in, killed eight people. crown heights, he went in referred people there and there was mayhem going on. so this is a dangerous man i don't know why he's involved in anything involving eric holder. >> bringing up 20 years ago, that is your prerogative. i think al sharpton has been doing productive things on civil rights and racial tension when you look at his national action network they're involved, sorry in michael brown case, so for him to say that they would like to have some sort of a say, at least in terms of giving suggestions on who should be the

next attorney general that is not different from exxon mobile saying we wanted to determine who the next -- >> i think if you'd seen a republican or conservative said anything like this 30 years ago, 40 years ago the person would barely be allowed into city limits of washington, d.c. certainly, less than 30 years ago, trayvon martin case, racialized the whole thing, as a matter of black-white tension q he was half white, half hispanic. >> it turned out to be not what we thought it was >> he brought what's happening on to what's happening with trayvon martin. you know? tyler perry said this happened if it wasn't for sharpson we don't know about trayvon martin. so i think you know when you look at sharpton, everyone is different. people grow over time, people

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start your day with "fox and friends" 5:00 to 9:00. i hope you have a great weekend. . this is a fox news alert. beheading right here in america in oklahoma. woman decapitated and then the killer took his knife to a second woman, stabbing her, and now new fears that the suspect is linked to islamic extremism. the suspect was recently fired from his job where he allegedly tried to convert co-workers to islam. then coworkers and carrying out horrific beheading. all of this happening in moore, oklahoma. with us is sarah jenson. thank you for joining us. as i understand you got to the scene before the police. >> not before the police but i was actually there only minutes after then. we are an office just about a mile from this food distribution plant. so i was able to get over there right as officers were