hello, everyone. i'm kimberly bilfoyle. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." has the terror of isis just reached our shores? that is a question being asked around the country as a 54-year-old woman was brutally beheaded after an oklahoma food processing plant earlier today. listen to the unbelievable 911 tape from the scene. >> shut the door. >> 911 where's your emergency? >> foods moore, oklahoma. we have someone attacking someone in the office.

they're in the front office of the building. we can hear screaming. >> do you know where he is at? >> we know he is loose. he stabbed someone. >> lock that door. >> lock everybody in there if you can. >> can you hear this in the background? >> is that him? he's back? >> yeah. it sounds like he's running around out here. and that's a gunshot. >> the suspect, 30-year-old alton nolen, a disgruntled ex-employee, who former co-workers say was trying to convert several of them to islam. with more on this frightening story we bring in fox news correspondent adam housley who has more details from our l.a. bureau. adam? >> reporter: yeah, the question, kimberly, several questions of course as investigation goes forward. the big one is whether or not he converted to islam potentially while he was in a u.s. prison. that's part of the investigation. of course there's a lot of pieces to this puzzle. it all began yesterday in moore, oklahoma, a suburb of oklahoma city where 30-year-old alton nolen, according to witnesses and to detectives, earlier in the day he had been fired from

vaughn foods where he worked as a production line employee. he was then according to authorities go back into the parking lot, ram his car into another one and then walk into the front office and attack two women randomly with a standard issue knife they use at the facility. he killed his first victim and cut off her head. as he was stabbing the second victim the company's coo, mark vaughn, he pulled out a weapon. he happens to be a reserve sheriff deputy. he pulled out a gun and shot nolen multiple times. nolen is currently in the hospital as is his second victim. police in moore say early on they learned this could be a religious or extremist-fueled attack. >> after conducting interviews with co-workers of nolen, information was obtained that he recently tried -- started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the muslim religion. due to the manner of death and initial statements of co-workers and other initial information that our investigators have

gathered, we requested the assistance of the fbi. >> so we know the fbi is looking into records that nolen not only tried to convert people at his work to islam but also witnesse say he was shouting islamic phrases during the attack. detectives also say nolen was a recent convert to is islam. that's where the prison stint is being investigated. did it happen there? if so was he radicalized there? the 30-year-old did spend time in jail on drug-related charges and for assaulting an officer who was released back in march of 2013. on a sad note, the 54-year-old woman, colleen hufford, the woman he killed yesterday, the first victim was working at is that that same plant last year when the tornado tore through moore, oklahoma and destroyed her home. neighbors say she had just rebuilt. and she always had a smile on her face. as you might imagine there's a lot of outrage throughout this community as this investigation goes forward as to why this man did such a horrible act. kimberly? >> adam, thank you. truly a horrific story, greg, when you just think about the terror, the sheer terror she must have felt and the other

employees at this massacre. >> you know, i always like to wait and hope that something like this is a random act. but we cannot pretend that it might not be. there may be in fact an ideology that acts like a virus, that sets off the fanatical and the unstable. and we should be prepared for that. and i think that's the big point, the one point that we know for a fact is that what stopped this guy was a bullet. and that guy was a hero with a gun. and a gun beats a knife. in this day and age, the second amendment and a polite armed population is more important than ever. >> so what? >> i don't know what else to say. >> eric. >> so now we have a rochester gentleman who decided he wanted to fight for isis and me got caught. brendon tevin was killed by swan who was a jihadist. now the oklahoma city murder. a couple of thoughts very quickly. he said -- the police report says he shouted some islamic terms and then he started

killing. it sounds very much like the fort hood massacre where 14 people died after -- >> major nidal hasan. >> killed 13 or 14 people avielling god is great. allah is great. so i have to -- the question is, is this going to be workplace vile intelligence i think this is terrorism. i think they need to take a look at -- greg's right. we better get all the facts first, make sure. if it is that i would suggest we go in that direction. the other thing is, too, the ideology that people start to copy, the koich ccopycat killer murders happen all the time. attention given to it. >> school shootings. >> movie theater shootings. like that. hopefully we don't have everybody who hassan in clings to be a radical islamist to start acting out. >> it's an interesting point. after school shootings on all the news that comes from it, one of the discussions in the media is do we give too much attention

to the shooter. and in this case, if we do i would trust law enforcement and hopefully they have an idea of whether or not this is a possible copycat situation. if it is being fomented in our prisons that's another piece of intelligence we need to get. i hope he survives so we can get the intel we need to find out if there are other such people or if it was an isolated case. in this instance, we're showing his picture. he's getting the attention that -- i don't know if this is what he was looking for. but colleen hufford, the victim, is the one who deserves the most attention. i mean, this is one of those things you think this just doesn't happen in america. that is why i think you cannot excuse this with any p.c. nonsense of this didn't have anything to do with islam. because the perpetrator believed he was doing something for islam. that doesn't mean to throw a blanket over everybody who practices islam. but it goes back to our saying

of they have to have some sort of leadership in the muslim community to at least denounce this and they should denounce it strongly. if they're going to -- if arab nations are going to join news a coalition to fight radical extremists in syria, then i think what president obama said at the u.n. is that we actually have to fight them everywhere, that includes actually believe it or not in oklahoma of all places, this is something that we have to consider that it's much more widespread than we're willing to necessarily admit. >> before we talk about whether this is terrorism or not, we don't have enough information on this guy. my first inclination was he was just a crazy guy. but listen, in prisons the african-americans join together under islamic cover as gangs, basically, to protect themselves. this has been going on for a long time. the nation of islam has been very powerful in the black community. lewis farrakhan being the head of that. i'm not surprised this guy would probably learn about islam in jail. and there may be a lot of

others. but i would be very careful before we said isis has now come to our shores. >> and i also think -- i wouldn't say he is part of any community, meaning i doubt he would listen to any moderate voice. i think that the way we talk about spree killings, the unstable who go to vulnerable venues, they don't belong to a community. their mind, their unstable mind is where they live. that 911 call really does reveal what sitting ducks we are in this country. every 911 call now records a tragedy or a crime happening. and it tells you that these things are never stopped. you only happen upon them unless you have a gun. >> k.g., you can tell by the fact that he did mention some islamic phrases while he's killing, beheading the woman, does that make it a hate crime and/or terrorism? >> look, it depends. let's see how the administration and eric holder before he leaves

office, the attorney general, how they characterize it. how are they going to classify it? are they going to say it is workplace violence or an act of terrorism? they have to do a thorough investigation. but why would we discount this man's words? he's telling us what he's thinking, what he's feeling and what his motivating factor was. >> i would think some of the intel they could get is from his phone. we've he been talking about the social media piece and recruiting. what isis does is makes people watch the videos over and over again. maybe he's not directly connected to isis but i'm sure if he had a cell phone, which almost everybody does, it's possible he was seeing that. >> what if he's motivated and inspired by that? >> a year ago in britain, the military member who was beheaded on the street there as well. also is another case in london. outskirts of london. i can't remember the name of the town. or the neighborhood. but another woman beheaded.

there's a reason why people that are called security moms are worried about their future when security moms were considered as group that people studied in politics, they would ask men and women, are you worried that you could be a victim of a terror attack. they were surprised. because men that lived in boston, new york, washington, d.c., los angeles, almost everybody said yes. but men that lived in smaller towns or in places like oklahoma typically did not. >> sure. >> but almost every woman said that they worried about it. and it is for reasons like this that maybe we don't need the militarization of police. but there's a reason that people are frightened. and i think the response from the government has got to be swift, strong, and not at all politically correct. >> well, your point that cell phones. this guy clearly had a troubled past. he was sent to prison. usually people that go to prison have troubled pasts. >> that doesn't excues evil. >> no, it doesn't.

i'm not trying to excuse him. before we jump to that this is connected to the middle east and isis, find out if he is mentally stable, how much did the nation of islam have on him in prison. he got fired. clearly that got him a little bit whacked out. so i think we've got a lot of things to learn here before we jump to any conclusion. >> would you say the things about the zan tsarnaev brothers boston? >> no, because we had a lot more information on him. >> what about nidal hasan. >> we had more information on him. >> we had information on him and that didn't stop us. >> the only information you need is if you stand up and declare allah, god is great and kill someone i would say that would be radical jihad. no? is there anything? >> i would say that's fairly radical, yeah. >> right. >> the point is, why would you dismiss it? those are his words. those are his actions, his conduct followed up by a statement reflecting his

religious beliefs and ideology. >> but can he be charged while he's in the hospital? can he be indicted? >> yeah, absolutely. >> even before he's released? >> they can bring a case, put it together against him. he's obviously going to be in a very tight security situation. they can move him to a proper facility where he can be watched, monitored and receive any other medical attention depending on the extent of his injuries. >> this reminds me as an old person of what the manson family, what charles manson, was hoping to inspire, which was fear and chaos and murder by killing randomly. in a way i think that's the way this has to be looked at as a death cult. it must be treated like a death cult. because really what they're trying do is scare the hell out of us. and we shouldn't be scared. we should just be deadly. >> you're saying that, "they" meaning radical islam is controlling what these guys do. >> i think they can inspire the unstable, the isolated.

>> lone wolf. >> the biggest, most egregious example of that is all of a sudden beheadings are the way to do it. you know where that comes from. isis has taught the other terrorists around the world what really gets the public's attention. >> we didn't mention the one in australia a couple of days ago. >> right. >> and the french citizen in algeria. there's a reason that people are worried. there's a pattern. targeting innocent people. >> right. which is why we have to remain vigilant. and we have to have surveillance and make sure that our national security is up to par and not worry about hurting other people's feelings when there is so much at stake. >> it's very interesting the gun control debate. there's a big one happening right now with gabby giffords book coming out this week. you see the press coverage. a very important issue that is happening right now. i think that anybody would say as you did, greg, that the owner of the plant, the manager that shot the suspect, is a hero. and he should be allowed to have a gun. >> there you go. >> directly ahead. the war on isis, should the u.s. be urging all hands on deck

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and decline in belief. some of this the product of winning big wars thanks to the sacrifices of our amazing veterans we've had the luxury of longer, safer, healthier lives. our problem is what do we do with these lives now? my solution isn't pretty but it clears all those other problems away. it's war or rainshower the war on terror which demands an all hand on deck approach from the country under attack. uniteding before an apocalyptic threat eliminates petty grievances and provides moral purpose where for many there was none. it's a priority aligner for good this. threat before us is chilling and grotesque indeed. but that should united us. every single one of us shares an insidious enmemy who wishes to destroy you and your family. that makes us family. so for once hollywood, washington, young, old, black, white, left or center, the time for division is over. we are americans and unity and purpose is necessary for survival and victory. and later we can get back to hating each other when it's over.

>> all right. k.g., we could put off our political ditchesfferences for right? when we have an evil force against us? >> if there's ever a time to united this would be it. why can't we? why couldn't we be united in purpose? i'll tell you why. there's people that seek to divide us as a country. and some of them are in fact in office or stepping down soon. so when i see someone who's in a position like the attorney general, eric holder, making statements against the united states or even president obama when he addresses the u.n. and the world is listening. that doesn't move us closer together as a people as a country and united us so that we are single-minded in our purpose to defeat terror and rise up against our enemies. >> what does the president of the united states say against the united states? >> eric holder she said. >> eric holder said specific statements as well about -- >> you said the president at the u.n. >> the president also makes apologies about the united states and references specifically ferguson and that we are a country that has

problems racially. and i don't know why he needed to make that statement at that time. i thought it was out of step and out of place. >> i said that yesterday. but i don't think you can say -- >> you asked me so i just provided you the answer. did you not like it? >> against the united states. that's not an accurate statement. >> that's a statement disparaging us as a country. >> this is amazing. i do a monologue on unification and you're righting. it's amazing. that was incredible. >> what are you looking at? >> i'm looking in stunned amazement. >> draw a line. draw a line. >> i guess that was a lousy idea. >> thanks, greg. >> can i try to united a little bit? so president obama decides he's going to go ahead and do these air strikes against isis in syria. the big question was was it going to remain in iraq and go into syria without the syrians' approval. what he's done, in my opinion i think it's effective and i think it's working. it makes it very hard for any partisan republican to say he's

doing the wrong thing. thank god no americans are dying. it seems to be pushing isis back. it seems to be working. so if anything maybe there's a time, maybe this would be a good time to like you said united around a strategy that so far seems to be working. >> dana, you always have good ideas about what people can do. >> oh, i love to tell people what to do. >> i know. you look at hollywood, silicon valley. you've talked than the before. have you thought of any new ideas? >> i was thinking the farmers could united -- no. i think the refreshing thing about this latest debate on national security is that the republicans have remained principled. they have believed that the president should be taking this kind of ax. so they don't whack him. however, i do think that the president, in order to have unification, we need a president that sets a very clear vision. i would say in the last three months, six years or so, we have not had the benefit of a clear vision. i think he would be stronger by asking congress for authorization for what he is

doing. because that kind of a vote brings people together. and makes everyone show their cards. and it's also constitutionally sound. however, i believe the president has authority under the authorization to use military force. that's the legal underpinning. but it's the president himself who three months ago asked the congress to repeal it because he said he didn't need it anymore. that kind of clarity wasn't needed. >> that was posturing. [ overlapping speakers ] >> you would get it. >> he would get what he wants. >> >> i agree. >> in congress who doesn't want to vote are the democrats. the reason why president obama doesn't bring it to a vote -- >> too much on the line. mid-term elections. >> lpz low pressu >>. [ overlapping speakers ] boehner could bring it up tomorrow. >> he respects president obama enough. they have a shred of a relationship left that the white house is saying we don't want to

do that so boehner is holding back. that is a principled stand. if boehner really wanted to push the president and make a political issue out of it he'd say we're having a vote on this next tuesday. democrats be here or be square. >> because he's not putting politics ahead of the best interests of the country. there's a lesson for you, bob. >> coming from you? there's a lesson i want to take, professor. >> the point that k.g. made is about congress has to have skin in the game. that's what it's about. >> do you like that? >> yes. that's the most important thing. >> sure. >> because if you don't they have to go home and defend it. >> democrats don't want that skin. >> exactly. >> all right. directly ahead -- i don't need these glasses anymore and i still bring them. >> they're for show. >> i'm wearing these. >> a little odd. >> it's a thing. >> having side bar conversations. >> i know. these guys are talking. the state department is on full on spin mode after president obama gave kudos to a terrorist sympathizer during his u.n. speech. the heated exchange you can't miss next on "the five." listen up... i'm reworking the menu.

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so on wednesday we were one of the first media outlets to bring you the controversy surrounding a mumuslim cleric president obama called out. he endorsed the iraqi troops in 2004. iraq says he condemned isis and therefore is moderate. listen to u.n. spokeswoman mary harp try to spin that. >> he also issued that other fatwah against us where he called for muslims to go kill american troops back in 2004. this is a problem, marie. >> well, i think there's some misinformation out there about some of the things he may or may not have said. >> no misinformation about this. >> what we're judging him by is what he says very openly right now about the fact that muslims should reject isis's ideology. >> be honest. that's a bit embarrassing for

you. >> not at all. >> they're putting you in a very difficult position, aren't they? >> not at up. i am perfectly happy to mention him in that speech. >> dana, got to go to you first. >> as the spokespeople and the communicators, you're the spokesperson for the entire department. you can't possibly be in control of everything. you have to rely on other people. the vetting for this administration for their speeches seems to be, i think, more lax than it should be. i just remember always worrying, thinking, checking like what in this speech could come back to haunt us? is this person solid? and i had good reason to be a paranoid person and it paid off. so i think career foreign service officials who traditionally have done the state department spokesperson job have a way of being able to know where these land mines are. and i think that marie harp was put in a bad position. however i thought her answer last night on the gig anklely show was pretty good and she

showed her loyalty and steadfastness in that answer. >> that's an important thing to keep showing loyalty. >> greg, they're known about the controversy surrounding the guy. they were called out about it before yet it still ended up in the u.n. speech. >> when an enemy becomes an enemy to your enemy, he suddenly becomes your ally until that ally becomes your enemy. it's the administration in a way has fallen victim to shifts in extremism. al qaeda was bad until we met isis. isis was bad but now there's khorasan. this guy compared to them is like your kindly neighbor or an okay dude. and then who knows? that may change. but for now i guess we deal with him, right? >> well, let's remember that through the course of history of the united states we've dealt with some pretty desperate people as partners. josef stalin being probably the biggest mass murderer in the history of the world. but we found reason to fight the second world war with him. then it ended up being the cold war. i think the united states has on occasion alined itself with people for a strategic purpose.

this was ten years ago when this guy said this. it may be that he's one of the few people around who watnts to do an fatwah on isis. so use him. >> is he worse than assad? is he worse than the syrian guy? >> i don't know. >> do you know what i mean? >> it all becomes relative. >> yes. >> so a lot of negotiation goes on. you want to make nice with the people, the muslim clerics who happen to be on your side. i get it. i'll just ask the question one more time. is the u.n. platform the speech at the u.n. the right place to be doing it? why even bring this up? why even cause us to be talking about it? >> i think it's sloppy. i don't have any proper justification for this. and hopefully president obama edits and reads over his speeches and makes changes. i just don't understand why would you include this when you had an well vetted.

>> you have to assume it was vetted. >> we're okay with it. we understand -- >> so it's who he is. >> there's 160 countries gathered once a year. and this is an opportunity to try to work towards building coalitions. we don't realize how difficult it is, none of us will until we know what the history books say, of putting together these coalitions, getting sunnis to bomb sunnis. it has never ever happened before. >> it's very complicated. >> we talk about what happened, obama maybe picked the wrong example. >> that's my point. >> but he is trying very hard to keep the muslim countries that he has with him in this coalition together. that is a very fine act. and i think you ought to give him a little break here. >> we're going to agree on that. i understand what he was trying to do and the strategy behind it and i think he could have made a better choice. >> you're tough today. >> we like it. we love it. >> comment before we go to break. earlier this week i made a comment that was wholly inappropriate and i apologize for it. the comment came during k.g.'s

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okay. you missed the end of that song which is "i'm much to young to feel this darn old." the reason we played that song we're going to talk about what the perfect age to die is. that dark subject matter was

brought to light in a recent column by ezekiel emanuel. he's a brother of president obama's former chief of staff rahm emanuel. he says the magic number is 75. here's his argument why. >> i picked 75. when you think about the combination of physical decline, the rise of alzheimer's, the loss of creativity. you need to think about what you're going to leave your children, family, disabilities increase every time we live longer. then there's alzheimer's. a third to 55% of people have alzheimer's. disabilities are painful for people. >> historian victor davis hanson on the other hand argious there is no age limit to human vitality, writing "age is no absolute barometer. we all know those who at 75 are far more vigorous than those who are couch potatoes at 40." this story kind of got passed over because there has been so

much other news this week. i actually think these comments are outrageous. listening to him say them it's even worse. >> this guy orchestrated obama care. which is health care essentially for everybody including the elderly. that's like having a fox design a hen house. he's basically saying to everybody over 75 that you are a burden. now, mind you, this is his philosophy. he's not saying it's for everybody. but he is saying that there's something kind of inhumane about it. you're less worthy of health care because you are more of a burden because you use more health care. he's talking about people who raise families, who raise kids and grandkids, and the implication they don't deserve the care from us in return. my mother made it to 89. and at 75 she was awesome. screw him. >> red eye correspondent. >> i think about my grandparents who didn't live much past 75. but enough that i remember those last years with them so fondly. and maybe he doesn't want to live until later. but kimberly, what do you think

of this? >> you know, i think it's a small-minded, really. >> because you want to be here. >> that's what i'm saying. >> it's irresponsible for him to make that statement. it's terrible because it's just devaluing human life and saying that you have like an expiration. like a carton of milk or a 12 pack of eggs. >> yeah. you know what he's doing? we'll get to that. but don't forget, this is one of the architects of obama care, right? obama care works if people die at 75. when people start living beyond 75, 85 and 90 it becomes more expensive. the cost curve blows out. so young people are paying more for older people's health care. it's a much better argument for obama care if he's right. and he's wrong. look. i have friends up in the audience, grandma berty is up there. 95. still drives to atlantic city. has a cocktail. >> i thought you said she was 75. >> she could kick emanuel's butt. >> she could. especially in poker. >> bob, you have two kids that

are just entering sort of their early college days. you want to be around for a long time, right? see them? you said you wanted to be a grandfather. >> i would like to be a grandfather. >> someday. >> my book is coming out, by the way, january or february. and i should have been dead. but you know one thing that strikes me about this. there's a wonderful book that was written called "around the camp fire" it was about how in this society we take the wisest people and put them in the back of the camp fire and all the young squirts up in the front. we're losing all that wisdom and all those thoughts and all that experience. and i think that's a terrible mistake. do a percentage have alzheimer's higher than a low quadrant of people? yes. but there's a lot of experience, hope and strength there that we ought to take advantage of. >> i agree. one of the things victor davis hanson talked about is some of the contributions of people after 75 that we're writing about their life experiences and

providing including winston churchill who did most of his writing after the age of 75. >> this is incredibly ignorant coming from a doctor who is unaware of the innovations in technology that have allowed people to lifl live longer. the average life span has jumped over the last decades. >> 47 to 79. >> yeah. i don't think he's practiced medicine in awhile. or he's talked to patients. i don't know. i've tried to check it out. but there are so many things out there that make people have vibrant lives. >> i think you're giving him too much credit for being ignorant what's going on. i think it's far more insidious -- in trading it's called talking your book when you talk up a stock because you have actually stock in the stalk. >> like obama care. >> stalking his book. stalking obama care. >> obama care only survives if these people all die when they're 75? >> it's a model, bob. models support it. that's how it works. >> somebody used the phrase

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the uae should know that i didn't mean to slight their progressive move in having this great woman lead the war on terror blowing up, even though it's heated. she's pretty awesome. of course, women in the uae can drive. that's the real joke. they can drive and i can't. i don't even have a driver's license. i can't even park. by the way, major al inspired me to go to the dmv next week because i'm a big chicken. i hate driving in new york. >> i do, too. >> dane that? >> earlier today, i asked twitter for some great "one more thing" ideas. check out this dog. this was going to be greg's crime corner. this little guy gets put into the cage to be safe and quiet and probably as a puppy it might have wee-we problems.

but look at this german sh shepherd. he gets the puppy out so they can have a nice cuddle together. >> ah. >> isn't that lovely? >> they give them four years. >> nice jail break. love it. >> i can nominate someone. >> tomorrow morning, to fight ebola, $1 billion but we don't know whether those resources could have been better used along our own border to keep isis out. and also, fast food workers want $15 an hour, starting salary. did you know, our military gets $8.86 per hour, an e-1, that's what they make.

who would you rather have that for minimum wage? a burger flipper or an e-1? >> i don't know. >> what? is that a problem? >> don't you think someone who put their life on the line should make more money than the fry boy? >> i should make more money than you, but i don't. >> who is next? >> i'm going to dedicate my "one more thing" to diane because she loves baseball and so does america. derek jeter playing at yankees' stadium last night. attack a look. >> big pitcher right field. here is richardson and derek jeter in this final game! it becomes reality. >> i want to thank everyone

here. i've said it time and time again, everybody thank you derek and thinking to myself, for what? you know, i'm just trying to do my job. so thank you guys. >> very emotional and proud moment for baseball fans, yankee fans. >> america needed that last night. >> we sure did. >> excellent. all right. that's it. >> bob? [ laughter ] >> you know why? it was going so well. you know why? that is so mean. look at that. say you're sorry. >> i just wanted to announce a few things i think are important about the economy. it's been revised now, 4.6 second quarter annual growth. 2015 looks leak a robust year. there are over 20 million job openings in this united states and a lot of people aren't taking them for some reason.

maybe they don't like them. maybe they are too hard. >> we've got to go. >> wrap. >> set your dvrs so you never miss another episode of "the five." "special report" is next. hello. i'm arthel nelville. >> and i'm leland vitter. the man accused in the gruesome beheading in oklahoma is now awake and being interviewed by the police. and four college students are dead after their bus collided with a tractor-trailer. why police are treating this as a possible homicide. plus, the man accused in the disappearance of college student hannah graham is now about to face formal charges, this, as we learn more about what else police is doing in