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liver. i'm here tonight with joanne. be off tomorrow for -- he's so hot his name spokesman for four u.s. ambassadors to the u.n. and his idea of romance is not getting robbed by the hooker. sitting right next to me comedian jim norton. fantastic show by the way. >> you're welcome. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> okay. was his salute moot? this question and more in part infinity of our grammy award winning segment. on tuesday our alleged lady hating kenyan-born president/interloper stepped off of marine one in new york and delivered a salute to two

marines while holding a coffee cup. watch and weep, watch and weepers. let's see it again in slow motion. i don't even want to do the show anymore. and the president's gaffe tastic new york trip continued with a speech at the clinton global initiative when he showed ab shutsly no regard for the hassle his motorcade causes for ordinary americans like myself. >> i was just discussing with president clinton that if chelsea begins delivery while i'm speaking, she has my motorcade and will be able to navigate traffic. it's pretty smooth for me during the week. i don't know what the problem

is. everybody hides the traffic, but i haven't noted. >> disgusting. let's see it again in slow motion. just kidding. so has traffic in new york improved since this afternoon? let's go live to our midtown traffic cam. >> it's all fun and games until somebody gets decapitated. all right, grin nel. >> yeah. >> are you as outraged by the president's latte salute as i am? are you ready to explode with impeachment frenzy? >> no. i will say this though, i think it wouldn't be such a big deal if he didn't have a problem with the military. but the fact that he's already considered weak and not supporting them and then he does the latte. i mean, when president bush did it, it wasn't as a big of a

deal. and i think the reason why t military knew that the president, president bush, supported them. so this president already has some problems. >> another talking head was said the way the democrats have a problem with the defense, republicans have a problem with say compassion and stuff like that. you always get -- you always have to be extra careful sensitive about things like race and feminism while democrats have to be very careful about things that have to do with the feds. it's both of their achilles heels if you may, jim. welcome to the program. >> thank you. >> it's great to have you here. i know you have a busy schedule. >> i know. i'm leaving shortly after this. >> i know. you've got your own helicopter waiting for you. >> yes. >> i think you call it the helicopter. >> yeah, just the old double knuckler. >> you were in the green room. you said this latte salute really got your goat. >> it really did. and i related to it as i was recently thrown out of the american nazi party -- i understand how a gaffe like this

can happen. >> yes. >> but it's just nonsense. it's like i say in my book, fire doesn't always mean there will be smoke or something of that nature. making a big deal about nothing to make him look weak. >> i love that book title. >> you know who might care? >> who? >> the two marines who were there. to president obama it's another flight, it's another salute. but for them it's honorable. it's their job. >> that's true. >> it's what they dedicate their lives to. i'd like to think they want a salute back from their commander in chief. >> they got coffee instead all over them. >> they got a great salute because they got one replayed over and over. the president saluted, who cares, remember the coffee? >> yes. >> i was there. that was me. >> they got the best salute ever. >> do you think andy, and i'm going off topic here. >> sure. >> that perhaps the reason why it wasn't full of coffee, it could have been full of something else. >> you mean like cheese? >> no, i was thinking more like

maybe tobacco juice. >> or perhaps an adult beverage. >> yes, maybe that was it. >> i like weaving conspiracy. >> yeah, you really do. >> i'm quite good at it. >> you know why? >> because of the chem trails. they make you like that. the white house never should have put out this video. >> really. >> and the really bad part of all this nobody there thought, hey, this isn't the best thing in the world. they thought it was cute or something. that's the problem. >> i agree with rick. it's not a big deal. >> okay. out of everybody here you're in the military. >> uh-huh. >> i'm interrupting you because i talked to terry and he said he didn't care because they don't expect much from obama about these things. so you are served in the military. >> right. >> do you find this offensive? >> i actually don't. i think what he should have done is he shouldn't have saluted. >> yeah. >> it's not required. i'm sort of in the president shouldn't salute at all camp. nobody did until reagan. i didn't know they went to camp.

>> it was fun. >> but in the military you only salute when you're in uniform. and the president obviously is never in a military uniform. so he doesn't have to salute. and what he should have done there is simply not saluted. he could have just nodded and gone about his way. >> that was kind of rude. >> but i do remember -- there was a time when i was in korea i was walking around on post and our battalion commander came by on a bicycle. and i saluted him. and i realized afterwards i had a cigarette in my hand and i felt like a dork. >> this was just weeks ago. >> yeah. you know, either he didn't notice or was cool enough to realize it was an honest mistake and didn't say anything. i can't get worked up over this. i personally think conservatives hurt themselves. >> he said this earlier today but i did it for 80 seconds. the coffee thing looks bad and might be bad. it might make the president look bad, but it makes his critics look worse. the critics when they jump all over this it makes they look

like they can't differentiate between a small thing and a large thing. and that's worse. unlike the traffic jam because i live here. i couldn't get home last night. dana missed her flight. i had to take the subway. >> it was in very poor taste. >> it was. >> one thing new yorkers don't tolerate is jokes about our lateness. i know he made a joke about matt damon, like 0 for 2, buddy. >> i know. i got to say, rick, there are people that were victims of his motorcade. and it's like he mocked them. i mean, he truly could be a jerk. >> i think the joke would have been great two weeks from now. but to do it today. >> too soon. >> people if you're not in new york, it is crippling here. everybody's missing everything. even liberals are complaining. >> you know who wasn't complaining? andy because you have nowhere to go. >> yeah. also i walk to work. i thought it was kind of funny. >> no, traffic is never funny.

and jokes are only funny when there's humility in it. you have no humility. >> two weeks from now would have been funny. >> anyone who lives on the east side deserves to get -- >> that was a jab at somebody. >> oh, no, a jab at everybody who lives on the east side. >> any masculine woman who -- >> exactly. but i have to agree with jane that he has great -- he has a great rhythm with a joke, with a pacing. however, the attitude of it was the thing that kind of just gets you. it's like, yeah, i'm the president. you're screwed. you're not. >> exactly. but he could have, i don't know. >> what if there's an ambulance and a grandmother and a due to his traffic she died. >> that's going to be my model on tomorrow. president obama killed a grandmother. >> the joke is hilarious. >> and thought it was funny. i want to assume somebody died. somebody died. you know somebody died today.

somebody died today. i'm going to assume that happened. i'm writing a monologue tonight when i get home. that means i got a little free time tomorrow to do some fun stuff, maybe a little shopping, get a sweater because the fall's come i coming -- makes my whole day -- should i shut up now? >> shut up now. >> in his speech at the u.n. general assembly president obama urged international cooperation in confronting the militant -- but i wonder have we reaffirmed that the united states is not and never will be at war with islam. >> we have reaffirmed again and again that the united states is not and never will be at war with islam. islam teaches peace. when it comes to america and islam, there is no us and them. there is only us. >> at least it seems he's speaking inside an expensive hotel bathroom. the big like -- seems like there

should be somebody there holding towels. the president also said the u.s. rejects any suggestion of a clash of civilizations. meanwhile, does obama realize that america's critics will be quick to point out that at times we too have failed to live up to our ideals. >> i realize that america's critics will be quick to point out that at times we too have failed to live up to our ideals. america has plenty of problems within its own borders. this is true. in a summer marked by instability in the middle east and eastern europe, i know the world also took notice of the small america city of ferguson, missouri, where a young man was killed and a community was divided. >> well, that was totally necessary. for more on the u.n., let's go live to sneezing cat. >> oh, buddy. oh. >> that was my cat.

i would be flinging paprika at it all day. no, i wouldn't. because i'm not a cruel person. jim. >> yes. >> two comments here president obama made, one about islam and the other about when he injected ferguson into the proceedings, pick either one and go on with yourself. >> well, first of all, this whole isis thing is hurting my tour in syria. i've gotten two e-mails there. some british guy who wants to come over. >> really? >> yeah. constantly have it reaffirmed that we're not at war with islam. that constant, just like obama, every president does. i'm just so sick of hearing it. like we have to tell islam -- no one said it was all about islam. >> that's like trying to break up with a crazy person you've been dating. it's not you, it's me, i'm the one that keeps beating myself up. >> don't they understand these guys are lopping heads off. of all the guys here, it's not you, it's not the average

person. >> should he have injected ferguson? >> no. >> why does he care about our critics? he says there are critics who feel that way. why do that here at the u.n.? >> there's a tactic in arguing where you lop off somebody's offense -- i said lop twice, by presenting your own, you know, flaws. but you didn't need to do that because the guy being shot in a confrontation is different than like, you know, people's heads being sawed off. >> rick, can you separate isis from islam? isn't there a goal to establish a caliphate? not saying that islam is isis, but isis is islam. >> right. no, you can't. he really danced at the u.n. in this speech. >> racist. >> he said extremism, violent. >> violent extremism. religiously motivated he said. but he couldn't say islamic extremism or islamic fundamentalism. i think if you can't say it, then you don't know it. >> yeah. >> and you're not willing to confront it. he really is the united states

relatable which i think is the ferguson comment. >> right. >> he's thinking just like you we have problems just like you. but the problem it doesn't make us relatable. it allows russia and others to really dismiss their problems and to say, oh, well, we don't really have that big a problem because so does the united states. >> that's a very interesting point that i didn't consider. >> i considered it. i wrote it down because i read his op-ed. >> you didn't read my op-ed? >> so now you have nothing? >> i have a few things. okay. so i would say -- >> yes. >> that isis is bad. >> very good. >> but i would be afraid that that would make me islam-o-phobic. but since they're not islamic, i'm in the clear. >> that's a genius point. obama saying they're not islamic so -- >> you're welcome. >> what was your other thing? >> i think -- >> if it's not as good don't say

it. >> yeah. well, it's like obama, it's like i don't really know the words, so i just don't use real words. you know, salary, thing. >> your point was really intellectual. >> it really was. you're a rhetorical florist. >> i don't know what that means. >> that's okay. neither do i and i said it. obama said this isn't a class of civilization. he's kind of a wet blanket because i thought it was. >> it's not because there's nothing civilized about isis and al qaeda. there has to be two civilizations. >> that's a jab at isis. >> have you tweeted that? >> i have not. >> you should jump up and pop one. >> he's obviously correct when he says we're not at war with islam, as everyone pointed out. the fact islamic countries are bombing syria is proof of that. >> right. >> but, yeah, we are at islamic terrorism. and he should say that. i don't know why he's not saying that. and the ferguson stuff, i don't have a problem with pointing out american flaws, a great country can handle its flaws being pointed out, can handle

self-criticism. it just didn't belong there. it had absolutely no business being there. >> you know what it reminded me of? it reminded me when i have been out with the misses and i will be talking and unnecessarily make a joke at her expense. and then i don't hear anything about it until i get home. and it's like why did you say that? and i go i was trying to be relatable or -- >> everybody has a problem with the white -- >> so do i. and she's like, no, you don't have a problem. >> well, when the president leaves the u.n. and gets home to america, he's going to hear about this. >> that's my metaphor. is that he has to come home and deal with us. the u.n. is just some floozy. a bunch of loser floozies. >> it wasn't as bad as when he grabbed his hankie. >> they edited that out. you don't air your dirty laundry to the u.n. that's all i'm saying. >> or the state of the union address. >> the u.n. is one big pile of dirty laundry, right?

there's a lot of bad people there. >> i have to say though it's been a great week for me because all i keep hearing from u.n. diplomats is they miss bush. >> oh. >> absolutely. president bush. president george w. bush. >>. [ laughter ] >> you just cut me off. >> do the hookers go away? >> george w. bush. >> all right. that's a euphemism. that's when the u.n. diplomats walking around and doesn't want to get arrested. i'm looking for president bush. >> are you george w. bush? >> are you george w. bush? >> it's funny there's a lot of you guys around -- >> some looking for colin powell. >> all right. coming up, i invite a guest back to my apartment. i hope they're ready for pillow fights and crying. but first, what did a mother and

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household chores making it easier for the partners to focus on their career while they do the mundane stuff. do you buy this study? >> no, it's a bunch of bunk. >> strong language. >> i think you're more effective at your job if you're married to a dork because you're not tired from all that great sex. >> that's true. it is exhausting. >> tv guide and they doze off. >> you had a lot of energy. bunk. that's a good name for your new show. bunk. >> too edgy. racy as i want to be. >> i wanted to do a sitcom called that's bunk, about two guys sharing a bunk bed. didn't go over too well because it was too edgy. will you finally marry a dork now, now that the evidence has convinced you? >> i think ma linda gates said if you marry a dork, you become a billionaire. >> that's true. that's better research than i've ever heard. >> i'm dying to know joanne's take on this. but before we get to joanne, i actually think this is very

true. >> yeah. >> it's very true because if you marry a dork or a geek, go to bed earlier, you're waking up, you're rested, you're getting into the office, there's no complaining. >> yeah. >> there's no like i was drunk last night. >> yeah. >> or i'm going away this weekend because you have no plans. you're not doing anything. >> you have to get up at 7:00 in the morning to clean [ bleep ] out of the bed. sorry about that. >> you don't go skiing. >> the kind of dork like joel riff ken was a dork. >> that's a good point. he was a very bad dork. ted bundy was kind of a dork. well, maybe not. >> rifkin definitely was. >> yeah. son of sam was a dork. >> yeah. >> joanne, what are your thoughts on this as a young single woman working her way up the ladder of men in new york climbing every rung with ensatiable desperation. >> i don't think i will settle with a dork because to settle means you're a quitter. >> uh-huh. >> and that i am not. >> no, you are not.

>> and also that climbing is excellent card owe. >> yes. that's true. >> i don't know when we started using the word dork again. that's actually one of the things i look for in a man. no. >> it's ung women that like the bad boys. and then all of a sudden after the bad boys ruin their lives they look to the reliable dork as you're edging over 30. isn't that correct? and then they need the reliable guy. >> yeah. >> i mean, some women might need a man. but some might. that's fine. good for you. >> when you're getting to 40 though, i hear, i'll marry a gay man just because i know they're reliable and i'm not -- >> i have said that many a time. >> but andy, by this logic women who want to get ahead in their career should be lining up to marry you, but they aren't. unless there's a line of -- >> yeah. >> -- a catch. >> i don't play by the rules,

greg. i've got the leather jacket at home to prove it. >> you do. >> also i think the word dork came back, i actually blame the new girl with the whole dorkable thing. i think that's when dork came back when that whole thing came along. yeah, but seriously though, wow, marrying someone who is hard working, is reliable, predictable and able to control their impulses is good work for you. yeah science. >> speaking of science. again, i made this point before, this was an excuse for nerdy scientists to go to places where there are women and ask them about the traits that make a successful mate and then use it as an opportunity to ask the girl out because many of them are clumsy and spend most of their time in labs. >> oh, thanks. no, one of the things, as i mentor a lot of -- >> yes, you do. >> one of the things i tell them is they should be looking for someone who would mentor teen women. a guy who's hard working and

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customer refused to pay because he wasn't happy with the food. >> second guy came up to me, he said, the rule is if we don't like it, we don't have to pay. and as he was walking out -- >> yeah. he later added that the next two to ask for no msg in the food will be castrated. i misread that, he says he doesn't plan to change the menu at all. good for him. jim, would you eat there now that you know he doesn't care? or does that scare you? >> he's just a tool. like there's three jobs you don't take if you don't want customers to complain. comedian, restaurant owner, that's the business you're in. you want to go some place people aren't picky, don't open in san francisco. go to the midwest somewhere. they don't care what they eat. a truck tire? all right. >> you know, i've had plenty of good meals in the midwest. but it's true, they are truck tires. >> absolutely. let me say my apologies to the

midwest. i don't want that to effect my touring. >> exactly. do you wish more restaurants did this if you don't like it take a hike? or is it bad pr. >> i hate to disagree with jim, but i'm going to. i actually think this is good. people have gotten way too picky. they're over the top especially san francisco. i mean, the gays are over the top. they are going to be demanding things that they don't need to be demanding. >> are you referring to marriage, rick? >> don't get me in trouble. no. and there's a lot of highly educated people in san francisco. >> right. >> who, you know, they went to business school. and they're demanding because they're successful that their meal immediately be a certain way. so i think that those guys get fed up. >> yeah. it's like the world has changed before him. like for example, andy, gluten free was designed for people with actual illnesses, correct?

>> yes. >> but now it's a cool thing. >> i think on the sign he made saying we don't give a [ bleep ] about gluten free, that's nice because it lets people with real siliac disease and gluten allergies to not eat there. he should be commended for giving that information. i don't think the first part of the sign was we are closed because of you, customers in parentheses. don't blame all your customers. you shouldn't be in that business, we are closed because of you, customers. >> he's like one of those guys in kitchen nightmares when gordon ramsey shows up. he comes in to talk about how bad the restaurant is and when he tells them the food sucks they go get out of here. i just gave you the summary of every gordon ramsey show that's ever been done. they have him come in, he complains, they get mad. that's it. >> i don't understand the people that refuse to pay for the meal. >> yeah. >> like if you eat -- did they eat the whole meal? >> they might have. >> if you eat the whole meal, you pay for the whole meal. if you take a couple bites and

you don't like it and it's bad and you send it back, okay, i get that. >> if you don't like it, you still pay. >> if it's bad for some reason, you can say -- >> yeah, but if you eat the whole thing -- >> then if they order a cocktail and i'm not really in the mood for this, can i actually get something else? i'm not going to drink this or pay for it. oh, great, that's waste. thanks. i get why he's doing this. now people ask for the world. we give it to them. >> uh-huh. >> and then they expect it every single time. but it's bad business for him to do this, obviously. he'll maybe attract a few people who feel the same way as him, but for the most part the customer's always right and if you can't cater to someone's needs, unfortunately today you have to. do i think those people should eat at home? yeah, i do. but if they have to go out, you should cater to them. >> and i was fired for not giving money back. yeah, it was a breakfast and it was a guarantee that it would be the best breakfast i ever ate. and the guy came over and said

it wasn't the best breakfast and i didn't want to give him his money back and the manager fired me. >> really? >> yeah. >> what was the restaurant? >> i forget what it was called. [ laughter ] >> these are all indulgences of white modern liberals. buying organic. what is the gluten stuff. with the -- what? >> msg. >> i love msg. >> madison square garden. awesome. all right. the turf became turgid. a michigan mother and her teen daughter, aren't they all, facing felony charges for allegedly burning a giant penis onto a football field. school activities were disrupted because of the 100-yard long etching. and repairs may cost up to $200 million. that's not true. the mother, julie bomb gart ner seen here is charged with malicious destruction of

property and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. is that -- she or her daughter damaged the field. but she would say that, wouldn't she? i think i read that quite well, jim. >> yes. >> parents pulling pranks with kids, is this a good thing or a bad thing? >> it depends on the prank, right? first of all, i respect that woman because she's sang smoke on the water. but i think this is very dangerous. and i resent the fact that they asked me to make malt -- >> that's very clever. >> thank you. >> rick, when somebody calls it a prank, it takes it out of the realm of vandalism. but isn't this really vandalism? and shouldn't they be put away for life? >> maybe, but are you sure that tomorrow night we're not going to be apologizing for this show? because i don't know if i believe it's 100 yards long? that seems very difficult to carve in the grass.

>> can't you see it? >> i think it's a rocket. >> you do? you've said that to me many times. >> every time a male reports the story somehow it's 100 yards long. >> i really don't believe it. it doesn't look like, you know, it looks like a rocket. >> yeah, i know. i've heard that about a dollar for every time. joanne. do you participate in any pranks? somehow i see you as one of those girls in "carrie" who dumps the bucket on the poor girl. >> i don't think i did any pranks. i did deface public property. >> really? >> or is that the same thing? >> yes, it is. >> you just said in the green room you told me about a prank that you did. >> no, i didn't. did i? >> you made someone read -- >> oh, no, that was hazing. >> that's something different. but like you were saying, it's like crop circles. >> uh-huh. >> or the pyramid. >> right. >> how do you make it straight? it's so large.

how is it not like a crooked one. i mean, i thought i saw a picture. it was artistic. >> it was artistic. the pyramids, how do they make that straight? >> no, they didn't then. they didn't have rulers. >> they didn't have -- well, they had rulers. but a different kind of ruler. >> oh. >> no, i'm kidding. we haven't gone to andy. the daughter's currently in juvenile detention center. she could be the worst mom ever. you deal with teens. >> yeah. oh, okay. sure. i mean, if the mom was involved with this -- how lame. you're a 50-year-old woman. >> yes. >> and you're doing dumb crap like etching a penis onto a football field. come on, man. that's all i have to say about this. come on, man. >> all right. i smell a new segment. >> don't do that. >> that's a really good segment idea. >> if lauren hans and her daughter want to go out and burn something, i think that's perfectly acceptable.

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she keeps it real when it comes to seal. on monday inuit singer won best album at the canadian music awards beating out archaic fire, thank god, drake and others. her acceptance speech was strange. >> i couldn't be any happier. on a quick side note, people should wear and eat seal as much as possible because if you imagine an indigenous culture thriving and surviving on sustainable resource, wearing seal and eating it, it's

delicious. and there's lots of them and [ bleep ] peta. >> wow. in response, peta, who she said to, said they've never been imposed to indigenous seals which are important to inuit culture. let's look at two pack's performance. it's really amazing. ♪ >> that is absolutely amazing. >> she sounds like me when i'm watching her. >> she's incredible. rick. >> she won best album of the year, i believe. and best album of the decade. have you ever heard throat singing? >> no, i didn't know what it was. and i was going to ask.

so i'm glad we got the tutorial of a throat singer. i just want to make one -- this is not the previous story. >> no, it's not the previous story. >> because i was like throat singer, what? i'm getting mixed up. >> seal. >> i actually think she was a little bit brave to actually talk about something that peta needs to back down from. and you called it out. peta was up for the fight. >> yeah, they're not up for the fight because it's attached to a culture and they don't want to be seen as big gotted. can we do that, andy, with turkey. >> this is a tough one. on the one hand hunting seals is wrong. on the other hand it's not white people doing it, so i guess it's not wrong. >> yeah. >> and maybe it's wrong to even say it's wrong if it's not right people doing it because the hierarchy is i think indigenous people seals white people. if the indigenous people become super rich and powerful from killing seals, then i think you

have to change the whole hierarchy. >> exactly. >> the only thing i know for sure it's wrong to hunt, kill and eat indigenous peoples. >> okay. >> that's the only thing i can get out of this. >> and still call the navy s.e.a.l.s. seals. >> is that a -- >> that's a good point. >> i actually got that one too. >> good for you, joanne. >> how about your culture can't survive without smashing seals heads in. if you have to eat it, you have to et it. but i think everyone knows peta is not or peta, you don't say -- people for ethical treatment -- [ laughter ] >> you know. i know we're talking about indigenous -- i think we know they're talking about these guys standing with clubs bludgeoning them so people on fifth avenue can wear -- that's what peta is talking about. >> i guess so. i don't know. >> she irritated me. >> i think that i knew that if i buy that album i would be listening to it all the time. i think that there's something

to it. i think i might be a fan of throat singing. joanne, will you wear more seal now? >> no. but seal is single now. >> that's true. so i might date seal. she did have a point. she's using the whole animal, the meet and apparel. >> yes. >> which is wonderful. she also won $30,000 along with this award. >> uh-huh. >> so that's like a really great pair of seal shoes. or like two pair. >> two pairs at least. are there seal shoes? >> not yet. >> oh, interesting. i don't know. i'm just happy i saved the best part of the story that she beat archaic fire. >> no, the best story is she beat drake. >> i don't know enough about drake to dislike him. >> he started from the bottom. now he's here. >> nice. >> we're going to leave this. coming up, your new favorite superhero, gimp man. and you have videos of animals, you can send them to us foxnews.com/redeye.

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money with charles payne" why? why? i don't know why you do that. coming up tomorrow on the next red eye we've got terry shaffer. i don't know why you do that. >> all right, his fetish is philanthropy and rubber. i speak of the gibb man the one on the left the unidentified brit walks around in his favorite bondage body suit to raise money for charity. for every photo of him he donates one pound, which is money, to a local mental health organization his wife and kids are aware of

his alter ego he assures us he is not scary, quote, i am not scary and will not hurt you i am out and about to make people smile and brighten a few days up ". is this a wonderful idea? >> love it. he's living his dream, he's not spiderman's in times square molesting people, he's putting out his fantasy and ask money for charity. there is nothing wrong with that. >> it should be celebrated. >> jim? i think you might have pointers or him. >> this guy is a genius all he is doing is covering his bases. he's married and going to get caught in this dumb outfit one day. it's for charity, son. it's like me with a special belt going i'm donating to a cancer fund. how does that help? >> it's true.

>> it's a genius move. >> you like guys that can take something odd about them selves and can work it in as a positive. andy. he didn't go out on weekends and school holidays. >> much like me. >> he is a sherlock holmes mystery. i was for this guy until he says he wants to start a debate among members of the public. so now, i hate him. you know, if you want to wear the suit, wear the suit. if you want to be a bdfm, be a bdfm. >> what is that? >> bondage, domination -- >> people at home could have used a tutorial. >> we have to know.

>> joanne, is this truly in the dark? >> the wife knows she always knows she just probably wants to keep her job i don't know. i feel like employers might be freaked out by that. this discussion is great, andy. he says people on the beach in a bathing suit, how is that different from a black latex or rubber suit? do you know what i mean? you still see what is there. you know? >> very no problem. i just don't need a debate about it. >> maybe debating what charity to give to. >> you know what? it is more interesting an ice bucket challenge. you know? >> should that be the new one? >> everybody has to wear this gimp outfit the gimp challenge. >> 24 hours. >> i wonder who played the gimp

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