eastern. take a look at where to find us. thanks for being here. have a wonderful sunday, everybody. media buzz with howie kurtz starts right now and it's a great show. see you tomorrow. as president obama sxapdz the war on isis to syria, the media debate turns more serious. >> i agree entirely that the strike was politically and diplomatically value and important and for all the reasons. militarily, i think this was basically a slight show. >> are people like me going to buy it? >> let us know when you decide. and will journalists continue to ask tough questions about whether the administration is a military strategy can skis? the white house insists on

editing some reports that correspondents distranscript to each other after presidential events. is that over the line? lois lerner breaks her silence, but refuses to answer questions about the irs scandal. was her interview revealing or did it create sympathy for a whom who has taken the fifth? plus, jon stewart after the folks complained that they were sandbagged. >> we learned laird some didn't enjoy the experience. >> i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. the pundits have been hammering president obama on foreign policy for years. but since the bomb started dropping over syria, there's

been an unmakerble change, even on conservatives. >> last night on my orders, american forces began strikes. >> we need to come together and support our commander in chief. >> it's the toughest language we've heard yet from president obama. i was very happen to see it. >> given many of those criticizing the president, like former bush white house spokesperson dana perino good inch his military moves. >> meanwhile, 200,000. i'm all for the strikes. go for it, bomb the heck out of them. >> and the anti-war skeptics, they held their tuj hes. >> you can make the legal case the president's authority to attack isis is shaky at best. >> joining us now to join the coverage, joe tripi, long time

democratic trat gist and christina balentoni with roll call. at bottom, they like what president obama did in unleaching these air strikes. >> this is a bipartisan policy. the tone is going to have a different character than more partisan policies. and when president obama sounds like president bush, you'll have conservatives nodding their heads. >> is there still some knee jerk criticism on the right, would you say? >> i think there is legitimate criticism. i think the media has done a good job of airing this. how unlikely an air only strategy is to skis. it pains me to say its, howie. >> on your side, even the anti-war people, some of the folks at msnbc, they are barely criticizing the president for

launching these air strikes. how is that not hypocrisy? >> i don't think that's true, actually. i think the initial response always is for everyone to pool around the president. when military action like this gets into frame, that's what happens. how long is this going to last? that's what the press is. there's basically been a lot of playing politics with these issues. you can't do that any more, not when there are troops not on the ground, necessarily, but at risk. the media is just covering what's happened. it's not politics right now to take a stand on this. even in the stuff senate races, you don't see either side getting out there and hammering the president or strongly supporting because they don't want that to happen. >> i want to come back to that.

joe set me up. is barack obama, with has been hammered so long for leading from behind now being treated like a war president? >> in some ways. one thing i'm taking a look at is what happens to the liberal media. when you talk to lib rat voters who are frustrated with the president, they're now unhappy that he's sounding like the president. when you have a large audience feeling that way, are they going to have to take a shift and go after him when he's using terms like evil. >> why are we not hearing that now? is it to support the democratic president? >> it's still very early and we're in the middle of midterm elections been 37 days away from this and partisan networks do have a bit of an aside there. year hearing the difference in what voters are taking on the ground. if you start seeing visuals of people going after obama, the media is going to take a shift.

>> it's in large part partisan hypocrisy. in part large, the anti-war moment was an anti-bush movement. so you remove burke from the equation, and all the energy goes out of it. one thing the media should focus on is the statement al qaeda is designated. we've seen country after country, al qaeda is on the rise. this should be treated just like president obama's mission accomplished statement and get all the derigz, we should be reminded of it can'tly and we're not. >> i think the media should be looking at the costs. you have an emergency supplemental to fund this right now. they're going to have to continue to spend money. we're operating earn sequestration. that's what the media should be looking at. >> it's working and the first

screaming was about the people on medication sinjar. they're not up there any more. then her bill was going to fall. then it was he'll then get arabs to rally and do anything goodness the sunni extremists. it's the coverage of that that i think and the response if you're in the political environment in washington is to back off. you don't want to get out there. >> they hold all the same sayretory. they. they've talked with bush about how we've been bombing iraq for weeks and weeks and not move them at all. it's extremely difficult and perhaps impossible to get an insurgent group out of cities entirely from the air. >> i'm not talking about the efficacy of the policies. i'm talking about why the coverage is the way it is. >> you're saying it's working

and it's clearly not yet. >> that was a good story in the "new york times" pointing outs that not a lot of progress had been made in iraq. not so good was the correction that took two weeks to get talking about bush and obama had been comparing the two the proemp mr. obama is taking is similar to the one mr. bush took. unlike mr. bush and the iraq war, mr. obama has surrounded the united states with partners. there are allies. >> and there ever morale lies than the first time around. that was made into a item of abuse and now president obama has a smaller alliance and he's getting credit. >> and what about congress tries to do if they come back and vote on authorization. you've seen democrats pushing that coverage with you're watching it in britain, of

course. >> what about the media skofrd and all of us discovered this group called the khorasan group. there was a military trooim strike said to be plotting the attack on the u.s. and europe. and the reaction i thought was how can this never be a threat if we've never heard of it before? >> the media is not doing the best job educating people about the facts of the grouped. you see terrible videos of people being executed, you see the president speaking, there's not a lot of education involved here. >> the other thing is the media gets stuck on the big, hot items. others talk about this group. the administration talked about it. but after the be heading foodage became available and the media went into hysterical hyper drive about focusing on -- i don't mean a reason to be hysterical, but just focusing on isil, but other groups out there that the

administration has been saying are a threat to the united states. >> the debates that went on dur the bush years, there were conflict reports on whether or not an attack was imminent. when the president said there was going to be an attack on the empire beltway. >> it is difficult to determine how legitimate these threats are. but the khorasan group, one of the reasons we didn't hear about it, it is basically a dubious existence. i think the administration made such a big deal out of it because, again, they don't want to admit al qaeda in syria is a huge problem when we've been seeing al qaeda is defeated and decimated for so long. >> there was a fair amount of

flack being played that one of the pilots from the united arab emirates was a woman, no less. >> the first female pilot piloting for the uae, there she is, leading the strike, dropped the bombs on isis on monday night. this is incredible. >> would that be considered boobs on the ground or no? >> after that joke by fox's eric bowling, he apologized the next day. on friday, he gave a more lengthy expression of regret. >> fox news has received letters from viewers, including from women in the military and i've tape them to heart. therefore, let me speak clearly and sincerely. i'm soerd for what i said. i believe major almansori is a hero. he's brave, sur rashus and she deserved our praise. >> you know, it's a stupid joke

and it would be super whether it was on television anterior around your dinner table pup shouldn't talk about anybody that way. it's insulting. >> this woman is a here roy. here she is risking her life. >> let me get a break. send me a suite. how had howard kurtz. ahead, being accused of plagiarism. how serious are these accusations? is that kosher? h. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.

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the obama white house has insisted on editing these reports when a white house intern fainted and said that should be deleted because it would mere the woman. when the president talked about press freedom and contrast that with limited photos on the trip, the reference was removed. christina, how serious are these instances with the white house fiddling with the reports? >> i've written these reports before. they requested changes be made. they weren't changing them themselves. i covered an event once for the first lady. i wrote in my report they hadn't been checking bags. they viewed that as a security issue. they let it stand, but they were angry with me aefrts. what is weird about this is the

actual process. >> it's a disbeautiful channel. >> also how they don't do it in foreign media. they send it to one another. when you have that possible filter when they're reviewing things, it opens up a lot of trouble. and the white house is very, very image conscious. >> the white house says there were only a handful of incidents, like with michelle obama working out and they thought that should be off the report. are there any of these instances that trouble you? >> the white house is always going to try and influence what's getting out. it's going to try to get its way. i think it's wrong that they have that ability, but i think the way to solve it is to remove them from the hub, the white house correspondents should be able to get the full report distributed to everybody without going through the white house. >> does this indicate a mind-set of trying to pressure reporters to delete things seen as negative? >> yeah, i think so.

we know michelle obama works out. we've seen her arms, right? but it's the bathroom of the things and it's the way it is set up creates the opportunity for the white house to exercise prior restraint and to litigate these matters. the reporters, it's not hard to create an e-mail list where you blast this out yourself and cut the white house out of the process. >> and to be bullies. there is an element of pressure. every white house has done it, but the obama administration has done it. >> let's talk about one of the biggest issues of the week. that is barack obama doing what was called the coffee cup salute which was an awkward mistake. but did it deserve as much coverage as it got on cable news? >> no. look, every one of these guys gets off the copper when a dog or a cup in their hand once in their presidency. and they walk out and all of a sudden there's marines saluting them.

i should have left that cup or the dog back there. it doesn't work that way. >> i looked bad b but did it indicate disrespect to the military? >> it was a pretty crummy salute, i have to say. but this is a story made for the new media. it involved a very short video clp. it's kind of funny and at the end of the day, it's not that important. >> and it's all about, oh, and the liberals want to show that with barney. i've seen a lot of every day people not involved in politics posting this photo saying, look at how disrespectful this is at a time of war. it goes to why they're image conscious for that very rope. >> and the white house itself posted the footage of instagram. the dumb sweet of the week, the "new york times" before the official announcement eric holder was stepping down at ag, an obama resignation press conference. and the new york post has a cover about chelsea clinton's

baby with a headline that bothered me. another liberal cry baby for democratic clintons. then it says party pooper. i get that it's supposed to be funny, but don't you get a one-daybreak when your daughter has a baby? it seems tasteless. rich lowery and i did some video debate. check that out online tomorrow. ahead, why was bill simmons suspended for calling the nfl commissioner a liar? but up next, should politico have given lois lerner a platform when she's still refusing to talk about her role in the irs depackel? can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. new fiber one streusel.

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lois lerner. lerner hasn't, of course, said anything since pleading the fifth. >> i respectfully exercise my fifth amendment right and decline to answer that question. . >> as part of the arrangement with politico, lerner wouldn't answer questions about the substance roovt scandal. the piece began with a strikingly simplic tone. quote, employers won't hire her. she's be be rated with epithets, agencies have guarded her house because of death threats. joining us no, former bush administration spokesman leslie marshall and fox news contributor. rick, this was a big exclusive. i don't think many news organizations would have turned it down. but should politico have agreed to the terms knowing lois lerner was not going to answer any questions about the irs scandal? >> well, i think they should agree to the interview, but they don't necessarily have to publish it. if you send in a really good reporter, maybe you can get

something out of the individual, and i think that should happen all the time. but what politico did here and what rachel bey did was conduct an interview and publish an interview that should have never been put forward because it just wasn't news worthy. it was kind of like interviewing monica lewinski and not asking about her affair with the president. lois lerner had three lawyers in the room with her. and the most we got out was basically that she rescued stray dogs. it was a terrible interview. >> well, leslileslie, but was is worthy that we found out, even from her self-interested point of view what her life has been like, the fact that she and her husband spent over $100,000 in legal fees, despite her gaping role at the center of the role? >> we all know in the media that if you interview somebody with a big name or certainly when their

attorneys are flanking their side, there is an arrangement that is made, which is you will knot ask this. if you plead the fifth in d.c. before members of congress, you're not going to have the big reveal with politico or anybody else. there are things that i didn't know about her. not that we're saying, oh, this is a kinder, gentler softer, but i think for many people that may not have been aware why she did what she said she did, why they r she maintains that and quite frankly, other facts into lois lerner. it's also a name that would get people to read this. i think they did the right thing in doing that. you get a big name like that, you do what you can. you know you're not going to be able to go certain places. >> rick. >> look, i don't think we found out anything, leslie. what did she find out other than she is broke and she rescues stray dogs. the heart of why she took the

fifth is not answered here. if there was some sort of interesting news, then i would say go ahead and publish it. but this was so sympathetic to a woman who took the fifth. and in washington, here is the problem for me. it's washington, d.c. media thinking that taking the fifth about going after republicans with the irs is just kind of, you know, not really something that you should investigate. you look at "the washington post" and others, they've known that this was a targeted going after conservatives and yet the investigation par has completely been a nonstory. >> in fairness, sorry to interrupt leslie, we're a little short on tooem time, what her colleagues thought of her, she could be difficult to deal with and laid out what her defense might be. i want to move now to a website called our bad media, which has posted many allegations of plagiarism and barred language against cnn host from areed

zakaria. given his high profile, why do you think this story has gotten such little coverage? >> isis would be one reasoi also think quite frankly, although sadly, americans are a bit desensitized by this. i think we hear about plagiarism all the time. this is the second allegation i found more troubling than others about fareed. quite frankly, it's not bleeding, so it's not leading. >> rick. >> i don't think so. i think this is all about fareed. he's like the rock star of the d.c. media. people love him. they think he's an intellect. if it was any other person, then they would absolutely go after this story. but because eat at cnn and because he's invited to all the

right parties, it's just hands off. it's clear -- this is the way the d.c. media works. >> well, actually, he's in new york, but i guess you could say the d.c. ala carte of d.c. media. i want to mention that jeff zucker says he has complete confidence in zakaria. a source close to the cnn program tells me that of the questionable scripts from the cnn program, not his outside writing, that these were written by producers and later approved by faree ed zakaria. he did apologize a couple of years ago for which a piece that was similar to others in the new yorker. coming up, fred francis on whether the media are swallowing propaganda by running that is shock and awe footage of the air raid against isis.

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the sun plunging the area he said in total darkness. i'm eric shawn. see you back at the top of the hour. now back to media buzz and howie. we've all seen this spectacular footage of the air strikes against isis in syria. the dazzling images of bombs bursting in air. msnbc's rachel mado sees that as a problem. >> but if you wanted to get an independent objective assessment about whether or not things were successful, there is not a way to get that right now. it is an uncomfortable things to be relying on one single stream of information directly -- to the pentagon as our sole source of data in terms of what is happening. >> joining us now, from an fred francis, nbz correspondent and out with the firm 15 seconds. m seconds.com. does it trouble you the television has run these government supplied shock and awe pictures again and again? >> that particularly doesn't trouble me. it's the fact that it just comes

from the pentagon during almost any military engagement i've been involved in over the years. they always rush to get reporters to the scene of either the air base or the missiles launching cruiser. i was on the first cruiser that launched the first missile into kosovo. they wanted us there. sure, we used their gun camera footage and it's wonderful stuff. you need to be there to talk to the airmen and talk to the soldiers. >> it's understandable why there aren't any independentble journalists in syria. it is extremely dangerous. but just one follow-up. does this footage make it look like there were massive bombing raids and huge damage when it's a fraction of what was unleashed at the height of the iraq war? >> the fact is, unless you're in a control room, unless you're on the base and you can hear the feedback, unless you can talk to the pilots and find out, you know, why can't they do that? they can't do that because the white house is controlling the message. >> on that point, fred francis,

i know you've been doing reporting on this. what do you make of conflicting messages about the strategy of this war coming from the pentagon, used to cover, of course, the river. there's no question. >> over the last 48 hours, you have a combined coverage to d.o.d. the one message you get from them is the white house is controlling the message. it has an iron grip on what the pentagon is saying. it has an iron grip on what reporters report. what access they have. it's not saying that they're lying. i'm not saying the white house is lying at all. listen, we tell our clients in 15 seconds, tell the truth all the time. >> but you're not troubled by it? >> yes, of course, because they're not telling the whole truth. example, the pentagon says we are not targeting isis leadership. oh, they're not telling the whole truth. the cia is targeting isis leadership with drones. it's just like we are not targeting with our particular

aircraft. why can't the american people know that? isis knows that. why can't the american people know that? >> you're suggesting there are people running this war, of course, there is civilian control and barack obama is the commander in chief. but the pentagon, defense secretary hagel are really at liberty to say what they think? >> that's exactly what i'm saying. there have been leaks in the pentagon, the lack of confidence in any strategy doesn't include boots on the ground. >> there haven't been any leaks. after 14 years of war, the pentagon has figured out how to tighten up the leaks. even the finest reporters covering it have fewer and fewer people that see the communications. very tight. >> to the extent that there have been leaks, is it out of frustration with what you describe as the white house controlling the message? >> exactly. military officers i spoke to say everyone knows you cannot win this war against isis with just air power. and they're frustrated that they're being forced to talk that talk. >> okay. >> back to the coverage, the other day msnbc's lawrence

o'donnell ripped cnn for what he called war his tier kra. one of the banners put up was new homeland security alert. a couple days later on msnbc i saw an on screen -- that's not the same of a color coded orange updating of the terror threat. do you think there has been too much hysteria, dramatization of this? >> the fact is there has been. but this is what happens when there's a dearth of news. this is what happens when reporters don't have free access to what's going on and be able to report to the american people. speculation. it blooms. and then it dies. >> so just in the last half minute, you would like journalist experience, military journalists to be able to be on some of these war ships, talk to the pilots. do you have any expectation that will happen? >> no, i have no expectation at all it will happen. if that happens, the white house

loses its iron fist control on the message. the message is very simple. this is a little war. people don't have to worry about it. if it lasts very long, you'll get tired of looking at the gun camera footage and it's not really a war presidency. >> the president has said that the war will go on even when his term in office is over with. but certainly little war is an interesting way to put it. straight ahead, is coverage of the air strike necessary syria helping or hurting democrats in the near term? later, jon stewart says his program tries not to mislead people. why did the daily show do just that in pitting native americans against washington football fans? ♪

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in the clutter of midterm election ads, one has broken through the static. >> smart, handsome, charming, articulate, all the right values. i trusted him. but by 2012, our relationship was in trouble. but i stuck with him because he promised he would be better. he's great at promises. i know i'm stuck with barack for two more years. i get that. but i'm not stuck with vince pratten. >> joining us now from the hill,

some pundits have ripped that ad or weird or offensive. do they have a point? >> i think it is a little sexy to see a woman gushing about barack obama and talking about he's disappointed her. it's a strange way to introduce these issues to women voters. but it does show conservatives are going after those women. >> obviously these midterms some want them to be made about barack obama. >> this ads gets a lot of attention. that is what campaign ads have to do. you want to get on shows like this, talk about it. they get a lot of free media. i think it was an unusual ad, but it's like a columnist. you want to provoke some outrage. i think to lisa's point, they have to go after minorities and single women. republicans are hurting in those areas. >> it's not a news flash that the coverage of the air strikes against isis and syria dominated the news this week. which party does that help?

>> it's hard right now. i believe it's going to be a wash for the midterm elections for republicans and democrats. we do see quite a bit of a rally effect for president obama right now. his poll numbers have gone up a little bit. is that because of the heavy coverage? i mean, other than the -- >> i do think so. but i think it's a product of the washington consensus that's gotten behind president obama. you see house republicans in particular being quite a bit more friendly to him because of they ever their resolution to fight isis, as well. >> this is the first time in some years that president obama has gotten somewhat positive press con coverage on foreign policy? >> yes, i think so. he got some bad coverage in august because he had a bad august saying we don't have a strategy on isis. but the news was dominated on him this week. >> his speech i thought this week was much better than his address to the nation. but i do think this issue overall helps republicans. they like talking about this issue. democrats like talking about minimum wage and others issues. those have been crowded out. >> crowded out by the heavy

media spotlight? >> yes, exactly. >> so to the extent that it's been crowded out, what about, for instance, obamacare. >> we're going to see this midterm. i think it's likely to help republicans in some ways, but certainly it's not the issue right now we're looking at national security. >> so all of the traders and media geniuses who some months ago said this is going to be the top issue in the poll, were they steering people wrong? >> they were wrong, yes. they were wrong. they didn't realize how long the midterm cycle happens. we could see new issues come out prior to october. it's likely to be national security. you never know what's going to happen. >> and beyond obamacare, what about the economy? still the issue that voters say they care about. the president moved this week to restrict companies like burger king, which is a big call from avoiding taxes to moving other countries. i would say it got about two minutes of coverage.

>> that's right. as far as obamacare, if it's out of the flus, that's a good thing for democrats. republican governors, they're expanding medicaid. they're embracing obamacare. so that is a good thing for this white house. >> but how many coverage is that getting in the scheme of things? >> not much. overall, this white house, if we're not talking about obamacare, that's a good thing, i think, for democrats. >> but if we're not talking about the economy, if the media aren't focused on the economy, that is not such a good thing? >> yes. and the problem with the white house is the economy has gotten better. but the polls show that people don't think it's gotten better. that's a huge problem and a boom for republicans. >> who won the media week in terms of the coverage. >> i think it was democrats this week. president obama delivered several speeches at the u.n. that helped boost his party. eric holder's resignation means that the news is in their court this week. that's typically good for democrats. >> despite all the criticism on the right from holder's tenure? >> yes. because all of that is basically baked in at this point. but right now, eric holder,

they're talking about legacy. >> last time i said republicans. i'm going to say democrats this time. why? republicans haven't been able to knock out these red state incumbents. look at meyer pryor. he has a fighting chance to win. four years ago, blanch lincoln was down 40 points. >> you're talking about progress between the state and local races. >> yes. >> now coverage is saying hey, the democrats may not lose the senate after all? yes. i think the coverage about a month ago was republicans are going to win. now even people like paul rove are saying we may not win it. >> both guests have said democrats won the week. thanks very much for joining us. ahead on media buzz, espn taking heat for sidelining a sports writer who dared call out the nfl's roger goodell. but first, lots of bleeping in this edition of video verdict including a reporter who committed an agentical breach and resigned with an "f" bomb. she inspires you.

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online because of the dropping of the f-bomb. green didn't only betray ore station because she reported on a group that she herself was involved in, then there was this brig promotional sfunt. it must be a virus, everybody seems to be dropping f-bombs today, take a look at this promo from chicago which employs at least a little humor. >> our best message came from am mishkapur. you guys suck in the morning, nobody watches wgn, wgn news, the highest rating morning show. >> taking the heat that you get on twitter and turning them into something promotional. and should espn have suspended a top sportswriter for calling

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it's not often that jon stewart has to back down, but he had a big problem when the daily show staged a confrontation between washington redskins fans and native americans over a controversy about the team's name. after "the washington post" interviewed folks who felt ambush were assured that there would be no such confrontation. >> we take the complaints seriously, we generally don't want people to participate in the show to have a bad experience, we work very lard to find real people who have real beliefs and who want to express those beliefs on television. and we work hard to make sure that the -- if we find out in a

piece that someone was intentionally misled, or misrepresented, we do not air that piece. >> how are the media coveri ini barack obama or are they now that he's a wartime government. >> this is sad. but this is game if they want the job. >> i don't think the main stream media will accept the fact that obama is a wartime president. does diane lee know, it's just another chance to the say i didn't do anything wrong while taking the fifth legally. bill simmons really went off on roguer goodell. he said he didn't know the contents of the video of ray rice punching his fiance then the popular sportswriter dared espn to mess with him. >> if he didn't know what was on that tape, he's a liar, i'm saying he is lying, i think that dude is lying, if you put him up

on a lie detector test, that guy would fail. >> to pretend they didn't know is such [ bleep ] bull [ bleep ] i really hope that someone calls me and tells me i'm in trouble. i would say please, call me and say i'm in trouble, i dare you. >> is sports network took that dare, suspending simmons for three weeks for failing to operate within espn's journalistic standards. but what exactly was simmons offense. he bleeped those words in advance. he's don that before. i don't want to suggest that espn was oafly sensitive because of a billion dollar account with the national football league. but simmons was hired to dish out -- i've got to blow the whistle here on espn for an absurd penalty. i'm howard kurtz, i hope you'll watch our facebook page, where

we post a lot of original content. we're looking out for you on twitter as well. we're back to you next sunday, 1:00 and 5:00 eastern for the latest buzz. new air strikes pounding targets in iraq and syria, jets hitting isis control and command centers. this following two days of attacks by isis as the coalition now tries to turn back the gains of the islamic terrorists. hello, everyone and welcome to america's nude headquarters. >> the aerial campaign gains new momentum as great britain joins the battle. the white house today rejecting comparisons to the iraq war and defending the president's claim last year that the core of al