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and now let's welcome our guests. she is hotter than a hot pocket and every bit as flakey. i am here with joanne joanne nosuchunsky. nice expressions. and now that george clooney is married he is the most eligible bachelor, an -- andy levy and comedian sam morrell. and i told him i would get him on the show if he could get me to heaven. father john morris, fox news contributor. and now let's get to the real reason why he is back for 12 years. he has a new book that came out earlier this month. it is called "the way of serenity, finding peace and happiness with mare -- with hair hair -- heroin. what? just kidding. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> by the way, i hear it is a fantastic book. i want to point out that

joanne nosuchunsky alerted me that she is going as average. >> that's sad and strange. they have beards and dry priuses and drink the blood of baby pandas. those are all descriptions of republicans, except for one. they don't have beards, father. a new website called republicans are people too.com reminds everyone people are republicans too.com. there is the video. >> the creator a former mitt romney ad man said he wanted

to dehumanize gop-eers. he said it is acceptable to talk about them and it is not right. meanwhile i started a website called dogs don't understand balloons.com. get it! >> where did it go? where did it go? >> the dog was later put to death, father. not funny now, is it? is this cam paper necessary, do you think? >> you know, let me get very serious. >> here we go. >> very, very serious. >> welcome back. >> thank you. >> a lot of people tell me are you a catholic priest and a minister and therefore you must be for the poor. and therefore you can't be a republican. if you love the poor well then

you have to give them free stuff. i think this is exactly what the ad is all about. it is saying, actually republicans aren't evil even if they believe in free enterprise and the market. quite honestly it is not so simple. and so maybe there is a need -- >> i think there might be a need. however, when i look at this stuff, sam, they are showing guys in tattoo and driving priuses. what they are trying to say is we are like democrats. >> they are trying to say they are cheap. the add is ridiculous. if they were that diverse they won't have to make ads like this. >> it was like the old days with the benetton ads and everybody in sweaters. i thought i would let that float for awhile. i admire that they are trying something.

because republicans generally are more demonized than democrats. in the media generally that's what they do. democrats are always the heros. they have to do this. does it work? >> no. i don't think -- i mean, the phrase former mitt romney ad man doesn't exactly make you think, oh, this is something the republicans should be doing. strategists who developed ads that were aimed at getting mitt romney elected may not be the best person for the republicans to listen to. a strategist who can predict the i am a republican hash tag would not be instantly hijacked. probably not somebody the party should be listening to. it does not sound like a done draper ad man. they don't have the cool celebrities. >> you know what, that is the problem. why do we need celebrities as a conservative libertarian. i should reject them. joy anne, this would be like the democrat making a video that says we enjoy nascar and we don't eat tofu.

>> and i hear if you prick them they bleed. it would be that. the issue is when you are doing this sort of ad campaign to say republicans are people too is defending the fact that they said you are not. so it is like you are acknowledging the fact that there might be something wrong with you. the hash tag should have been this is why i am a republican and not we are people too. at the end of this you still don't know what it means to be a republican or why. >> this major upgrade, that was smart. i haven't been on the show in a couple years. major upgrade. congratulations. i love it, joanne. >> i don't mean a replacement. i just mean the show is smart. >> i think the call is a shame he is trying to get laid.

>> i have to practice for weeks before coming on this show. when i am supposed to smile and laugh and what i i am not supposed to laugh at. so far i failed. congratulations. >> that's funny. >> no, it is good. this is braiskly go -- this is basically going back to my book "not cool." they are trying to get out of it when they should be doing what joanne does which explains why you are republican and not like a republican. republicans are just older people really. >> the other thing is -- you can sit there and say republicans drive priuses too. you can't go around bashing priuses and then suddenly say, oh, we like priuses too. >> unless it makes sense to bash something that doesn't work. >> a prius works just fine. >> it works, but it is very, very expensive. and it is maybe not worth it. >> i was just told that republicans drive priuses so they must be good. >> not all republicans are smart.

>> some of us don't drive. >> well you have a driver, joanne. >> i do. thanks, mommy and daddy's money. >> that's why you are a republican. let's move on. did they hide that he got inside? fox news has confirmed the guy who jumped the white house fence a couple weeks ago made it further in the white house than we have been told. it is the subject of tonight's -- >> what's you expect? >> i can't remember why it is what would you expect? as the "washington post" reported, omar gonzalez not only made it into the building, but he overpowered a secret service agent and ran into the east room used for presidential receptions and addresses. that was before being hit by an agent. they alerted agents that somebody who jumped the fence was muted because the usher's office complained it would go off for no reason.

aren't we all done that? turn off the alarm and then get mugged? they originally said that gonzalez was stopped at the entrance and they had no comment on the report. to show you how far he got we created an exact replica of the white house. take a look. >> there is no security in that house. that mouse got in and did everything. >> there is even a fourth wall. >> anybody could get in including a white house into the white house. >> i assume they shoot everyone that runs through the white house. if you wanted to kill yourself -- this guy made it all the way in. he almost made a sandwich. >> it is a little dramatic.

you can just take a white house tour. you don't have to jump the fence. >> he jumped the fence and made it past security and he was carrying a knife. he committed basically every mexican stereo type in the book at omar gonzalez. >> that's very bad. >> i am uncomfortable with that. the fact you called him omar gonzalez is wrong. >> that was pretty racist of me to say his name. >> it down grades. >> all right, father, how can this happen? are they that lax days cal? is it a frat house that you can just walk in? >> i have no idea. i should say from the beginning that the reason i am on with you guys is because there are a lot of people who are mad right now and yelling at their tv's and why are you wasting your time, father jonathon, on this? you know nothing about security and you know nothing about white house anything. it is because jesus sat down with prostitutes and with tax collectors and with people. >> he looked at me. >> you absolutely looked that way. >> i turned tricks for one day, father.

>> the point city have no idea what the answer to the question s. easy should say right at the beginning i love you very much. and even if i don't offer any good answer i want you to know i am happy to hang out with you guys. >> where did you go before you came here? all right, joe, as someone who routinely stalks hockey players and boy band members, does this report give you hope one day you may be able to marry one or at least scare one to death? >> well, yeah. you have to chase after your dreams. that's what this is saying. run for your goals. truthfully, this is terrifying especially now. you would think that security would be at an all time high with isis all over social media and up loading them of photos in front of the white house. they say we will fly the flag above the white house. hoe kay, so now would be the time -- okay so now would be the time.

we look super vulnerable. great. >> it amazes me that it is this easy. should president obama be impeached in order to get him away from this threat? >> i think it is the only way to keep him safe for his own good. >> impeach him and replace him with like some kind of right whipping idealog. >> because no one would go after him. i talked to omar gonzalez before we aired and he was in the warden's office eating cookies and watching the chiefs-patriots game. >> i don't get it. >> he was able to get into the war done's office in the prison because he is good at getting into places. >> i didn't get it either, but that was good. >> i have to explain my joke too. >> the bigger problem here may be the cover up by the secret service. their affidavit in the case read moments later omar gonzalez went through the north doors of the white house and entered the white house. soon thereafter he was apprehended by secret service. they used soon thereafter --

yada, yada, yada. they say he was instantly tackled. if the alarm that lets agents know someone has jumped the fence is annoying the ushers because it is going off when it shouldn't, maybe fix it. it is not your apartment where you take the battery out of the smoke alarm and are you too lazy to take the battery out. >> we are $17 trillion in debt. you can get a new alarm. >> andy is always going after church ushers. >> and usher the singer. >> that's what i thought it was. if usher complained -- maybe he was performing and he didn't want the alarm going off. >> you want to hear a funny story before we move on? i had a buddy of mine who was visiting from london. he was going on a tour of the white house and standing in front and he was standing there and security went over there and asked what his name was and it was david white house, a friend of mine. they took him away because his last name was white house. >> it does sound pre pretentious. he is either a wise ass or

insane. but he is actually a family muss author of -- famous author. they took him away and he didn't even climb a fence. it took four hours to get out of there. >> the best thing was when the secret service explained the incident by congratulating themselves for the tremendous restraint they had. and it was not sending out the dogs and shooting which is very ethical. >> it bo make a mess. it would make a mess. >> this makes you -- there is no point in living in the building. you think a pothead night shift guy gives a [bleep]. >> they do anything for a buck. >> they could save some money. is doing it yourself on the shelf forever? a piece in the "new york times" wonders if technology is making us lazer and capable of doing anything ourselves or is it doing the opposite? is it making us more productive?

tough question. for instance a company called ship,s-h-i-p will pick up your parcel so you never have to go to the post office again. is it the realization of the laziness economy or the opposite, a giant step toward unleashing the productivity and creativity that technologists have prove fees. prove sees. for more, let's go live to our senior tech correspondent. >> he is chuck lig madly. >> it makes no sense, but it is very good tv. honestly everybody who is up at 3:00 in the morning they are going, wow, that makes sense. >> it does make sense. sam, is technology making us more productive or just lazy

and impatient? >> i am very lazy. it is hard. i don't want to do anything. i go to the post office. i'm like, this is crowded and sad and it is depressing. there are babies crying for some reason. it is awful. and the term going postal, it doesn't make me feel good about it. it is like, yeah -- i don't know. i don't know where i am going with this. it seems dangerous and then when drones are the solution down the road why do these all sound violent? >> that's what happens. father, i am dependent on google maps. i use it when i find my bathroom late at night. are we no longer using parts of our brain to solve problems? we are just pressing a button to do it that way. >> i would think so. i don't believe sam, first of all, that he goes to the post office. i don't believe anybody here goes to the post office. >> i do it to stay humble. >> i it is a pick me up.

>> we should go to the post office more often. >> when you see the people in there -- >> this have the charisma of a greyhound bus terminal. >> i want to answer one question. >> it has been a challenge. >> certainly there is a major shift toward having everything done for us. that's not necessarily good for us. i think we have to decides am i going to spend my effort and my energy doing something worth while no matter how technology changes that for the good? and i am going to spend my time doing something worth while and if that means not going to the post office ever again that's fine. >> if this frees you up to become more creative or more compassionate, which never happens, but if it does that is even better. you know what i think is happening? we are becoming a concierge society where a group becomes the receivers and everybody

else delivers. and so if you don't want to go to the post office, you will find somebody who will do it for you, or amazon will deliver your phone the same day. or i read, you can now get rental cars delivered to you. you can press a button. >> that's good. >> isn't that good? the worst is renting a car in new york city. i don't know what my question is. >> >> some people worry that apps are replacing abilities. >> nicely done. >> i say call them app-bilities and not worry about it. mailing packages at the post office sucks and boxing things up is tedious. standing in line at the post office is a drag. why not out source it? it gives me more time for charity work and reading script tour or whatever. >> really? >> these apps provide jobs, greg. >> that's true. >> and in this economy we need that. >> that's exactly right. joanne, finish up this segment with something intelligent. >> certainly. well, the wealthy have

personal assistants. >> true. >> so now everyone can feel wealthy because our phones have become these personal assistants. you can get food delivered to you. you can even send away your dry-cleaning and have it delivered back to you. it is like a personal assistant, but for a lot cheaper. >> it is giving people -- i guess it is a -- it is like we have concierges. it is seemless. everything now sh -- it is great, ebbs september i can't -- except i can't add and do cursive on my paycheck. we have to go. coming up, father jonathon discusses his new book "i am going to heaven and you're not." that's a little mean. >> oh jeez. >> the ouija board, tool of the devil?

can you talk to the dead or is it all in your head? that's the subject of tonight's -- >> "red eye" debate, 2014, live from the" red eye" debate center. >> welcome to tonight's "red eye" debate, live from the" red eye" debate center in st. petersburg, russia. i hope everyone attending the debate enjoys the free sample of my homemade bort. the talking board has been scaring the crap out of kids and adults since it was marketed 100 years ago as a mysterious family fun. look at that. it has become a staple of horror fictions seen in "the exorcist" and" witch board" and denounced by religious groups who call it a tool of say tan. satan. the scientists who studied it believe the movement of the

planchette is not moved by demons, but the user's subconscious mind. we go now to demon dog. >> a little linda blair. father, ouija board, harmless fun ordaining russ portal to the unknown that should be shun and possibly even burned? >> this is when i justify my presence here. i feel like i need to come away with having said something worth while. i actually believe in evil. >> right. >> i actually believe in supernatural powers. i believe in god and i believe in the devil and i believe in satan. i believe when we give ourselves over to evil and the darkness, that's a very real thing.

do i believe in that power? i have never seen it and that's why i was asking you. >> i grew up with it. we had it -- >> which explains a lot. >> it was a rainy day thing. you bring it out. there is nothing to do. >> did it move? did stuff happen? >> i had three older sisters so they like to trick me. i don't believe it moved. they move it to freak you out alt bit and force me to do things. >> what did they say about that? do they say now they moved it? >> i think they will always say they didn't move it. it got mooy to clean their rooms. they said, grandpa al wants you to clean the room and he is watching you. it worked. i did clean the room with blood. have you ever used a ouija board? >> talking to somebody who converted. i don't like that it is marketed as mysterious family

fun. do you want to get together and raise nana from the dead and get haunted by her a little bit? i don't like they had something about a guy killing himself over a ouija board and he blamed the ouija. before they could blame violence on video games there were board games. you know why pearl harbor happened? battleship. >> that's a good point. there is always something that is recreational that is blamed jie. oh, twister. >> do you remember the twister masacres of 1975? >> i am just say wing have a lot of -- >> the cops don't know about that. >> it is because i rap them in the twister. joanne, when you have your slumber parties with your model friends do you play the ouija board between fill low -- the pillow fights and hot oil massages? >> we never did the massages, but that's a great addition. >> just in front of the camera. >> i definitely played with the ouija board when i was little. we did it, but i am a faithful

person. i was never a believer until i saw it work. i don't know if that says -- seeing is believing, father. >> i believe in it, i do. >> i am not sure if it is spirits or if it is a collection of people. your energy is on something. i believe in collective energy and people can make things happen. i don't know. >> wasn't that exciting? >> you are a big fan of the ouija board, you and your cats paw it and sometimes the cats get scared. and then that's really it. >> and then a question gets asked? >> exactly. >> father, in general, with duty ron me chapter 18 lessons 10 and 11, let no one among you sacrifice his or her son in the fire who practices source reand engages in witch craft or casts spells or

medium and spiritist or consults the dead. the bottom line here is i don't believe for a minute there is any truth to the idea that the ouija board makes contact with demons or the spirits of the dead. i will also never use one because i have seen way too many horror movies to know it always starts off as a fun little joke and ends up with people dying horribly. when the ouija board came out, the people that were the most against it were mediums. it cut them out of the equation. but despite the efforts of what i like to call big medium, the we gee boards were a success. >>y -- eziekiel, the sum is all on sides. >> a lot of old -testament here. if you think i can't quote a little new test meant wait until the second half of the show. i am very uncomfortable. >> father, i am surprised you didn't bring up that many of the catholic church exorcists say 90% of the worst cases

have been linked to the use of we gee boards. >> i don't have to say it. you just said it. >> how much time do we have? >> here is my point. i said that i think it is important to be able to try to talk to the devil because that is proof that there is something out there. i always welcome it. you should do that. correct? you think i am nuts? >> no, but i wouldn't be talking to the devil to prove he is out there. >> why not? >> there is a lot of bad people out there i don't want to talk to. >> all right. >> you just threw out eric mataxist's name. >> he has been on the show. he is an interesting fella. fungi. but he is scared to death of the ouija board, scared to death of it. coming up, a christian family owns a swinger's business is? you know what they say? the family that swings together gets divorced.

best thing ever. this take on welfare made it on air. you can't spell ranchor without anchor. he was caught on a hot mic ranting about public assistance. matt piper was discussing crossing guards, but unknown

to them they were still on the air. have a gander, ganderers. >> they want you to mention that a parent can do their job and walk their kids to school and not rely on everybody else like you rely on government assistance. >> did he just say that? >> he absolutely said that, wow. >> wow, i actually talked about government assistance. how old are his kids? >> i think i qualify for government assistance. >> that was a dumb thing to say. news 12 posted an apology to their facebook blaming it on a technical error and then they fired piper. piper issued an apology on his own twitter saying someone in the control spoke into my

earpiece and asked me to relay a message to our reporter on the field. those were not my own thoughts or profanity. >> oh jeez. >> let's see how viewers reacted to these comments. >> they want you to also mention that parents should do their [bleep] and walk their kids to school on their own and not rely on everybody else like everybody relies on government assistance for their entire lives. >> shocked owls make everything better. father, do you look at this stuff and say therefore for the grace of god this can happen to you? >> absolutely. at this time when everything is live on facebook and twitter and instagram, it is a time for mercy. >> that's a good point. that's a good point. i feel people should have do officers. in the 1970s and the 1980s people were doing terrible things and never getting caught.

we can have one do over. >> although, you know, that was pretty bad. >> he may be needing some government assistance. it is not good. here is the thing. it is weird if they come off that angry. it doesn't take much talent. >> whoa, whoa, whoa! you want me to finish? >> it is gruesome death. >> local news, people do dying. what they should do is replace them with like a crazy homeless p that job that would be more ebbet -- more entertaining. >> why are you calling homeless people crazy? >> i stand judged and you are corrected. >> forgiveness first. joanne, during every commercial break you actually leave the studio to spit on a

poor person which is disgusting. >> i wouldn't mind if cameras were on me. that's the thing. anything you do you need to be prepared for the mmic to pick it up. i live my lifelike there are cameras around. i have no shame. >> that's because they are always taking pictures. >> you are constantly taking selfies. >> but i have to say his body language says a lot. he was adjusting his tie when it was already straight. he had insecurity issues already, so he was probably trying to build himself up and gain the confidence before the next live hit. >> that's how he gets amped up. >> the f-word and the -- you know. >> that was happening when he realized it was live. i didn't actually see that part. that's when every part of your brain goes, it's over. it's over. there is no way out of this. it is going to be bad bar the

next month or two, but then things will get better. >> i understand why you sympathize with him. the stuff you say during the breaks -- on friday the stuff you said on the break was so bad anthony was like, dude, pull back a little. i love his excuse though. >> amazing. >> i can almost buy he was passing on a message. he says dave wants me to tell you. and that's fine. but then after he says the whole thing and then he said i added the part about government assistance. the worst part of what you said, you added. jay that's life. what are you going to do? >> throwing your producer under the bus is never a good thing. >> literally too. >> it seems like he had so much more character. i didn't expect that. i expected more. >> we will probably see him again hopefully soon. a florida couple has turned their passion for christ, body building and threesomes into a business.

dean and his wife chris tooy who met at a body building competition started a spouse swapping site called fitness swingers. that is a great name for a soft core movie. fitness swingers. how do they reconcile their faith with their swinging? so far today god hasn't told me, dean, stop that. it is a sin. you know what, that is great logic. god hasn't said anything so give me your wallet. god hasn't said it is a sin. until he does that i want to keep trying to help as many people as i can. that's what he calls help. helping them off of their clothes. christie adds, god put people on the earth to breed and enjoy each other. i feel god is always with me and he has put us here for a reason. you know what is amazing about this, father, is they use all of the tropes in language that you hear to their benefit

saying i am not here for a reason and they can explain it. the fact that this topic was chosen specifically for me is very disconcerting. you saw the story and it was like this is perfect. we will have these crazy people -- i mean it is unbelievable. it is interesting. if we think we have a direct connection with god, and i will do whatever i want until god comes and tells me not to do it, ties disturbing. and it is actually similar to some of the radical -- whether it is radical islam or radical whatever. >> interesting point and very important point. at the base of a lot of old religion is the idea that you have an absolute truth. god has said this. and i will go to sam on this.

at least they are not saying kill people. i would rather have a radical say, hey, let's have an sensual sex rather than i will cut your head off. i love how people make religion fit what they like. it is part of god's plan. if there was a god he likes to watch. i love this is how they view it. basically they are looking at it be fruitful and multiply. i don't know. maybe i can ram susan from hr while my wife is at the store. >> i don't think they are having children. they talked about breeding breeding and that's not what they are in for, but they are in good shape and you are into group activities. >> the roids won't let them breed. >> alleged loo. -- allegedly. >> i don't like to pass judgment , so that is all i will say about this. it is not my position to judge, only god. >> isn't that sweet?

>> this is a great group. as i mentioned this is like major upgrade. >> i mean, i'm judging in here, but i'm just not gonna say it. >> andy likes to judge. >> andy, would you join the at gist, cat owning club? >> i aming a nose stick. if you go to the swinger website there is no mention of christianity at all which is weird because they are basing it on faith. it says, quote, what you will find at the site that surpasses a usual dating site and ushers you to like-minded, health conscious activity -- active people who are strong of healthy and mind and body. for some reason they are downplaying the religious aspect of this on the website. i can't figure out why they would do that. >> i don't know. maybe it is not as important as we thought it was. >> don't judge. that was the take away. >> i don't even think judges should judge. why are judges judging? who gave them that job.

>> can't stop judging judges. >> you should stop judging me for judging judges. >> good point. >> what happened to sam judge? all right, time to take a break. free pot when we come back. not cool, order it, amazon.com, autographed copy g gutfeld.com. great book, by the way. not as good as father jonathon's but maybe better.

first it was legalized and

now it is is up saw diesed. it is -- subsidized. it is time for a trip to pot corner. veterans showed up for free pot products. it aims to provide veterans with an alternative to pain pills. >> that's our mission to offer a safe alternative to the dangerous prescription drugs that they are dealing with tbi and chronic pain and all other alements. >> anyone looking for a free bag of weed was out of luck. gift bags had marijuana oils and pot seeds. the co-founder said we are not about getting people high. anyway, anne armstrong is. he -- she is running and i wonder what her platform is based on. >> i am going to be the next governor of rhode island i use cannibus every day. i cook it into food and use it as medicine to help me with a

physical condition. i use it as a day yet terry -- dietary supplement and i do smoke it and yes i do inhale. it helps me to focus and it helps to facilitate communication. it doesn't make people crazy. >> i love the honesty. i love people who are honest and professional rather than jokey. maybe it will end up being assimilated to the culture more. do you think pot can be a better alternative than abused prescription pills? >> i can't believe i am in the pot corner. your point of honesty and it makes us very clear we should not vow for her, not that we live in rhode island, but as govern are. it has the affect of a recognizing quality, but also saying you are a wonderful human being and you are honest. but you should not be governor.

jay i don't think she is a wonderful human being. can we legalize marijuana so this woman has no platform, please? >> she is acting like it is so cool. you can smoke pot. it is not that illegal. >> that's a good point. what do you make of these pot goodie bags. >> they didn't put any bags of weed in there. they don't want to be responsible for these vets, but they gave them pot seeds. they are indirectly responsible for them being high for a lifetime. good job? i don't know. >> last word. >> she said she will be the next governor of rhode island. what is she high? i am actually fairly certain she lives in delaware. she also says it helps her focus. >> you can focus on playing video games and ordering

pizza. we will talk to father jonathon about his new book. the conference call.

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he has a new book called the way of serenity. it takes the three-line serenity prayer and looks at each element. providing thoughtful analysis using perm experience -- personal experiences and biblical passages. they hope to inspire believers believers and nonbelievers to find peace and happiness in their lives. enough of me. let's get to the man of the cloth of the hour. how many times during the show did you have to say the prayer s% deal with "red eye." >> let me tell you how i decided to write the book. i ran into a gentleman down on wall street about two years ago. i was in my roman collar, but i had a jacket on over the top. he said, father, i want to tell you something. i thought he was going to ask me to pray for something. he said, i don't believe in god. then he stopped and said i am trying to be a very good person. i said i don't doubt that a

bit. we had a great conversation. he was walking away and i said -- we were talking about football and everything else. id -- i said you say a prayer for me and i will say a prayer for you. he said i don't believe in god so i won't say a prayer for you. i'm sorry, i didn't mean that in that way. but i really do love that serenity prayer. of course that is lord grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change, the courage to change the things i can and the wisdom to know the difference. whether you are a believer in god or not, i think we all have to come to a point of acceptance of things we can't change in our life our past or somebody else's past and encourage them to get off the couch and do something and then thirdly wisdom to figure out what is the right thing for me to do right now? >> and that person was lou daabs? >> here i am -- >> that was good.

>> i think there is a wave here in the idea of spirituality. there are things to be gained from the serenity of clearing your mind. i think in this day and age, this is an age where people need spirituality and reject it. >> you said spirituality for the nonbelievers. i don't know if i agree with that. spearspirituality has to do with recognizing that your soul, okay, and andy correct me if i am wrong -- honestly. i trust you. you are an agnostic, but a deep thinker. >> i have 30 seconds, father. >> your soul is either just a blob of cells or that it is actually made in the image and likeness of god. there is a big difference there. i believe we are called -- we have been created by god with a purpose and made for eternity. >> i am going with the blob. >> i took up 30 seconds on purpose, andy. i didn't want to embarrass you.

>> people that i know that have read the book, i haven't read it because i just got it and they say it is great. i urge you to pick it up. amazon it is called -- "the way of serenity" -- there you go. >> thanks, father. -becht-blah- blublublub-blah!!! geico®. introducing the birds of america collection. fifty stunning, hand-painted plates, commemorating the state birds of our proud nation. blah-becht-blah- blublublub-blah!!! geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.

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