touchdown. coach said he imitated a play from 1994 and renamed it the ugly kardashian. >> that was great. bill: there are stunning new details about the latest white house breach. they are learning the men who hopped the fence made it all into the white house before being caught by the secret service. i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. these new developments will likely take center stage as julia pearson will testify before the house and she'll have to stick up for her agency on how the fence jumper got over.

bill: you are saying this be a washington coverup. >> we first heard he got into the white house but only one room. this was basically a perfect storm of a security break down. he got through several rooms in the white house. someone in the white house was trying to down play it to the press. bill: there is a white house source that says they misreported it intentionally to down play the story. from a national security standpoint do you think that's defensible? >> we are five weeks from the election and you have got to get all the facts out. if you are trying to cover up to to debright's not good. that's the question for both republicans and democrats will be grilling the head of the

secret service in about an hour. bill: secret service did in the lock down areas of the white house. and when that happens officers on duty don't have any knowledge of it which leads you to believe basic protocols weren't followed here. >> it's one of the most remarkable stories we have seen in years. what if it had been a coordinated attempt by a dozen people. if one person can get that far, that's what's so startling to many americans and the lawmakers who will be answering questions today. bill: they put up a second fence? >> now they are erecting more barrier to the white house. this was something -- we have seen this a lot. a lot of people jumped the fence

and they are captured right away. this guy was not. bill: oklahoma city changed a lot of things on pennsylvania avenue. the hearing begins in one hour. we'll watch it from here. martha: the man accused of kidnapping an arkansas realtor is being arraigned on charges of capital murder. the body of beverly carter discovered in a shallow grave overnight last night at a concrete company. she went to show a house thursday and never came back home again. the suspect aaron lewis speaking to reporters on this way to court. >> reporter: do you have anything to say to the family? [inaudible].

>> did you kill her? >> 49-year-old beverly carter, a real estate agent, was due to show a house in a rural area east of little rock, arkansas. her husband whom she had told the address didn't hear from her. he went there, he found her car, no trace of beverly carter. so he called the cops. three days later they an arrest warrant for 33-year-old aaron lewis. monday they arrested him annen the early hours of this morning, they upgraded the charges to capital murder. they haven't told us what evidence they have yet. but beverly carter's family issued a statement just a short time ago pointing the finger directly at lewis. that statement says we are

devastated at the loss of our precious beverly. in is now a hole in our hearts that will never be filled. mr. lewis robbed us of an amazing wife, loving mother and grandmother. her grand kids will never get to know the mag used to her greatness. martha: this man on the tape he's denying he was involved. >> he hassing a long criminal history in northwest arkansas. nothing -- anything as serious as this. but as you saw, he was brought into court. he was questioned by reporters, and here is more of that conversation. listen now. >> i haven't seen her for two days. >> reporter: how do you

explain what happened. '. >> reporter: interesting to note he mentioned another mane named at trevor. we should find out a lot more through the coming hours. the news conference is scheduled for 2:00 p.m. central. so 3:00 p.m. here eastern. but we'll learn a lot more about what the caps have on this guy through today. martha: it's got to be very unnerving for realtors. going out with clients you don't know. thank you very much. >> we have new details in the

fight against isis. the u.s. striking isis targets along the besyncked northern border with turkey. there is word the obama administration had been warned for a year about the growing threat. martha: how about the financial toll of our fight against isis. a new independent report estimates we spent close to $1 billion up to this point. that number will grow significantly as this goes on as we have been told, for a very long time is the projection. a new report shows we could spend $500 million a month. $4 billion to $6 billion a year. the cost of a tomahawk missile,

over $1 million apiece. so far we have fired 47 of them into syria. bill: is that worth the price? that's our twitter question of the day. or can we afford not to take on this fight? martha bill: another fox news alert. hospital officials in texas keeping a close watch on a patient showing signs of the ebola virus. john roberts live in atlanta on this. >> reporter: this is in dallas. this patient arrived from visiting one of the affected countries in west africa in the last couple days. presented himself at the hospital with a high fever and

vomiting. out of an abundance of caution because of the travel history the hospital put him in a strict isolation unit. he's sending samples to the centers for disease control. we talked to officials at the cdc. they described this patient as being low risk. they expect to receive the samples this morning and may have a preliminary result sometime this afternoon. there have been dozens of suspect cases, probably 10 of which had samples sent to the centers for disease control for evaluation. some of them turned out to be malaria. none of them turned out to be ebola at this point. but the national institute on infectious diseases says it's only a matter of time before someone gets off a plane infected with ebola and brings

it to the united states. but he believes because of the strict protocols for treatment it's likely the infection would not spread too far after that. martha: it's supposed to be one of the fundamental jobs of the irs but a federal court claims they don't even collect taxes properly. the billions of dollars that's being left on the table because agents are too lazy to go through the process. bill: president obama blames intelligence agencies for under estimating isis. now the intel community is fighting back. james woolsey live about the blowback. martha: police say the suspect in the disappearance of hannah gram is linked to another high-profile missing persons case. >> we are relieved but it's a

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martha: for the second time in less than a year two of the country's largest supermarket chain says customer data may be at risk. the beginning in late august hackers may have captured credit card numbers and expiration

dates and cardholders' names. >> we have a simple maxim. leaders take responsibility, they don't take credit. for this president has not been reading. this president and for the entire world who saw isis cross over the border to iraq take out fallujah and ramadi, he referred to them as a junior varsity team, obviously he under estimates. the intelligence community underestimate isis. but they are firing back saying they have been warning policy makers including the president about isis for over a year. james woolsey my guest out of washington. this is what kicked it off sunday night.

steve croft and the president. >> i think our head of the intelligence community jim clapper acknowledged they under estimate wad had been taking place in syria. >> he didn't just say we underestimated isil. he said we overestimated the ability and the wiment of our allies, the iraqi army to fight. >> that's absolutely true. bill: is that explanation acceptable? >> well, there are two broadly speaking separate issues here. they are both important. one is our assessment of the enemy and that typically is the job of the intelligence communities. if the president wasn't paying attention to that then he wasn't doing this job. i know how the people feel who perhaps had their findings ignored when that little airplane crashed into the white

house after i had been in the cia job. the white house joke was that must be woolsey trying to get an appointment with clinton. sometimes you don't get your ideas fully across because the president doesn't want to hear them. president clinton was a speed reader and he would read all the material and sometimes a and soe it. but he didn't like having one-on-one rrp meetings, at least with me. the question is was president obama paying attention to the assessment of the enemy. bill: or was he unwilling to confront the enemy? >> that may well have been the case. because the question is was he paying attention to any assessments he was getting' our allies.

they were the ones in terrible shape and the principal cause. it seems to be the case what they were focusing on was the dispute about whether there was sufficient attention being paid to the cohesion of the iraqi military forces. assessing our allies is not exclusively the job of the intelligence community. sometimes they will do that. bill: that seems to be where the story is shifting because the white house explanation, no he wasn't cracking back on the intel community when a lot of people actually do take it as an insult. now the white house is trying to say we thought the iraqi army was going to stand and fight and we did it. the reason the white house doesn't want to say that. the principal reason the iraqi army wouldn't stand and fight is

because we left them alone. if we had done in corp ria after the korean war what president obama has done in the closing months of the iraqi war the situation on the korean peninsula would be god awful today. but as it is south korea is a prosperous democracy. the north is still there and dangerous. but if had left south korea alone at way we left iraq alone we wouldn't have anything like the stability and peace we have there. bill: there is a report out that suggests the president only attended 40%, 42% of his presidential daily briefings. do you believe those numbers and how would they arrive at that figure? is that based on the president's schedule day to day. >> i would have been delighted with 40%.

president clinton read the material i submitted to him and often would annotate it. i didn't have 2 on 2 meeting much less one-on-one. it was a different world. the world was not as kay yot nick the mid-90s. i don't think you can do your job if everybody knows you can't talk to your boss. bill: james woolsey out of washington today. martha: calling up the guy who had the job before you for a little bit of advice once in a while. bill clinton revealing george w. bush used to call him frequently. what would president obama learn from he picked up the phone and talked to george w. bush.

bill: a muslim cleric facing terror charges of his own. explaining his positions. do you buy this? >> there is nothing called suicide in islam. there is something called using your body against the enemy. ♪

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bill: soon football fans nationwide may no longer have to worry whether their favorite football team will be on their television screen. the fcc is look do away with a blackout rule that keeps the game off television if the game is not sold out. the league says it keeps them on

tv by encouraging deals between the league and the broadcasters. martha: a federal report says the irs is failing to collect billions of dollars in unpaid taxes. they declared the taxes to be uncollectible because they could not find the taxpayer. and they gave out billions in fraudulent claims. you look at the secret service story, you look at the irs which is apparently charging people who shouldn't be charged and not collecting money from people they should. does any of this stuff. do any of these agencies work the way they are supposed to? >> no, they are not working the way they are supposed to work. this is another example of a government bureaucracy that doesn't get the job con. in this case we are talking about the i.r.s. it's a black eye for a maligned

organization. they close 480,000 cases where individuals owed tax. they closed those cases and wrote off $6.7 bill because they couldn't find the person. the person who owed the taxes. there was an investigation. the treasury's investigator general said you didn't check properly. in half the cases they investigated they didn't go after court records or motor vehicle records. they didn't try hard to find the person who owed the money. martha: they have a file on john smith and they are supposed to go through a procedure but in a lot of cases they just close the file. so those people should be fired, they are not doing their job. >> reporter: it's very * hard to fire somebody in the federal bureaucracy. the attrition rate through firing is minuscule.

this is the agency -- martha: lois lerner on leave with full pay, right? roorlt * this is the agency that last lois lerner's emails. this is the agency that's going to police obamacare. this is the agency two weeks ago we were reporting they were handing out $6 billion every year to bogus filings. made a claim, got the money, skipped town. martha: the president ought to be look at this agency saying i'm going to fire all the top executives in this agency. where is the outrage? where is the backlash? >> reporter: it's not there, is it? martha: are we just accepting we are a different kind of country? are we a third world country? or do we accept there is a certain amount of corruption in

evening we do? >> we have come to the point where we realize the government will never be efficient and this administration has the government as the agency of change and he expanded it dramatically. bill: does virginia have a serial killer? the new details linking the suspect to another young woman and why some believe there could be even more missing today. martha: former president bill clinton says president george w. bush would call him up. and he would give him advice and sometimes he didn't listen to it. [♪]

bill: a fox news alert. that man accused of abducting a virginia university student, hannah graham abducted a month ago. now police say forensic evidence links jesse matthew to a missingv tech student. >> reporter: they had forensic evidence that led nowhere. the sketch after person of interest seen with her that evening. all last week people were commenting about the similarities between these two pictures. now police say there is a forensicling between matthew and harrington. the harrington case had been

linked to another sexual assault in virginia where the victim escaped. virginia police say there is a great deal of work to go. it takes hannah graham's disappearance to a man thought to belings wittothought -- to br other students. the uva student disappeared two weeks ago from a downtown mall. police investigated ma shoe early on but he gave them the slip. here is megyn harrington's mom. >> they have time to sort it out and make sure this is the man who killed morgan harrington and who is responsible for the

disappearance of hannah graham which is paramount. reporter: matthew has not been charged in the harrington case but he will be in court on a bail hearing. bill: leland vittert out of washington. >> he used to call me twice a year in his second year just to talk. we would talk depending on how much time he had pause he was busier between me. somewhere between 30-45 minutes for several years. it meant a lot to me. we never talked about it in public. he asked my opinion. half the time he disagreed with it. martha: bill clinton talking how his successor george w. bush used to call him during this second term. a new "wall street journal"

editorial suggesting obama might benefit from a call to his predecessor. it would be an act of contrition after six years of vulgar ridicule. martha: doug schoen and rich lowry are both fox news contributors. being a past president, even if they have different backgrounds in terms of their political philosophy, there are things they can share. does this president have the qualities to allow him to reach

out to george w. bush after all the water under the bridge? >> sadly from what i have seen the answer has to be an unequivocal no. even in the "60 minute" interview sunday night there was no sense the president himself accepted any blame. the intelligence community is pushing back against him. there is one larger message. we are all americans. we are all involved in a war against isis. we have to pull together whether we are democrats or republicans and work together to solve a huge, huge problem that affects our nation, and our liberty. >> of course obama should call bush. this is someone who lived and breathed the war on terror for 8 years. who lived and breathed iraq for years and years. he was videoconferencing with maliki constantly. it would be humbling and even

humiliating for president obama to admit president bush might will some insight. martha: one of the things brad stevens brings up in this piece is perhaps president obama needs to fire some of the people who work for him. you might call george bush and ask, what was it like to fire don rumsfeld, someone who worked for your father. clapper is the person he says underestimated this intelligence. i wonder if that doesn't constitute given a couple other missteps by james clapper, a reason to let him go. >> in our system of government if you are publicly castigated by the head of state it destroys your creditability and clapper himself should consider resigning because he lost the

president's confidence. cia director brennan, given the apologies he had to issue with the warrantless wiretapping, with the obvious failures of intelligence, he might consider leaving as well. so what bret suggests makes good sense. i'm not sure all 6 have to go because that would create a crisis in governance. but if we can get petraeus and stan mcchrystal -- martha: it would show a real understanding of what's going on on the ground. i'm remind of george tenant's words. he says i was running around with my hair on fire. i wonder if clapper and brennan have been running around with their hair on fire saying, mr. president, you need to listen to us. this is an urgent situation. if they have and they are he's

not listening ... >> it was part of his ideology to be detached from the situation because he thought iraq was such a wrong turn and he had to get out and never get back in begin. so even if they are telling him, he wasn't listening. here is another thing that goes to bush's experience. bush made a terrible mistake in the iraq war. the operation was botched. then he admitted it, explained his mistake and reversed course. i don't know why it's so hard for president obama to say i was wrong. i under estimated isis. i thought it was ok to have a passive policy in iraq. the next day people might pound him but the american people are very forgiving and it would be a clear sign he understands the nature of this problem. martha: actions are so much stronger than words.

if the actions the president takes show he's moving in a different direction and acknowledge where he was, everybody wanted to get out of the wars in iraq. everybody wanted to be done with it. but as it turns out the president could say we can't. >> sometimes leadership requires what is not most expedient or supportive of public opinion. we need to leave open the option of boots on the ground. to attack george bush for what he did doesn't really make sense when we didn't have a status of forces agreement and we took a stable country. we are complicit sadly in the collapse of its democracy. bill: wall street is open for business. investors reacting to global hotpots including the massive protests in hong kong. the dow closing down 42 points.

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martha: walmart pushing back against a lawsuit filed by tracy morgan saying the comedian is partly responsible for the nalsive injuries he suffered because morgan and others inside that vehicle were not wearing seat belts. morgan's suit claims walmart was negligent after he looking its driver to be on the road after 24 hours. bill: listen to the imam talk about his views on the kidnapping and killing of western hostages. >> if you look at what the people saying who are holding these hostages, they are talking about there is no stability and security in muslim countries because of u.s. policy. if you look at the whole picture you will find the there is another story. >> one guy was an aid worker who

went to syria to help innocent children. he was hardly a guy who deserved to have his head chopped off. >> i don't take my news from fox news or the bbc. bill: k.t. macfarland, good morning to you. he's the guy calling for the bombings. he's the guy not putting on the jacket. >> he's a nasty piece of work. when he was a college student he was a womanizing hard drinking bad guy. he's encouraging young males to puon the suicide vest and go kill. bill: how many jihadists do the

brits believe are in their country. >> i talked to mi5 who say they believe there are 2,000 who are radicalized who could go operational. they watch all 2,000 of them. i have got top he resume since isis has been recruiting in britain. bill: this is something david cameron the prime minister is worried about. and he told hannity there is no word as suicide in islam. they say it's using our body against the enemy. >> they are not saying we are killing our women and children because we put our rocket launchers on the roof tops of

school and our headquarters are in the basement of a hospital. they intentionally put their civilians in the way of getting attacked and killed. so they can go to the world and say we are the good guys. bill: you have got this general talking about isis on the ground which you would expect. if you are getting hit from the air you will reassemble. what's important is understanding the distinction of this coalition supporting what's happening in syria. and those who are supporting action in iraq which is suddenly the good war again. how did this happen? >> that's the problem with putting together coalitions. some will fight in one, some will fight in the other. but the reality is although it's a good thing wore bombing isis in syria and iraq. nobody is going to show up when it comes to putting combat

forces on the ground which is the on the way -- >> in both countries you are saying? syria and iraq, no country puts forces on the ground? >> in syria we'll identified moderates. we'll train and equip them then stand them up to go back to syria to fight assad, al qaeda and isis. that's just not going to happen. secondly in iraq the iraqi army will stand up to them when even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said they are 50% combat ready and when isis confronted them they dropped hire weapons and ran. bill: the white house talks about the coalition. what is the coalition willing to do? so far it doesn't look like a whole lot. >> that's right. as far as the hard part which is to put muslims on the ground

fighting other muslims in combat situations i think it's unlikely to happen. in three months' time the president will have a choice. finish the bombing campaign and come home, put american boots on the ground or the president turns to iran and says you guys finish off isis and iran will say the price is we want you to look the other way while we continue our nuclear weapons plan. martha: folks in one part of the country skipping right over fall. temperatures dropping over 20ing in one day. bringing rain and golf ball size hail and snow, plus this. bill: they are pack out there again today. chaos in the streets of hong kong. pro-democrat cipro testers are not showing any signs of backing down in their fight against

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bill: severe weather bringing hail and snow to colorado. it's september. the denver area slammed with thunderstorms. then hail falling during a storm. but that snow damaging cars and breaking glass. the weather stopping traffic and stopping schools. martha: pro-democrat cipro testers in hong kong showing no signs of backing down. listen to that crowd. the movement setting a wednesday deadline for the city's chief

executive to step down and meet their demands for reform. big changes in the streets of hong kong. how disthis resolve this pry is, david? >> it's difficult to say at this moment. the two sides have hardened their positions the last 24 hours. the students and protesters are saying they want full democracy and they want the chief executive to resign. after all he's the one that told the police to use tear gas sunday against them. at a news conference the chief executive urged the protesters to leave the areas around the central business district. he said he wouldn't change the rules for democracy. china has the final say much which candidates can go for the next election for chief executive. but it's worth remembering back

in 2003, china did back down after there was mass protest in hong kong off new security laws. martha: thank you very much. we'll follow it with your help. bill: moments away from what is expected to be an explosive hearing in washington. the director of the secret security is on the hot seat. our ability to protect the commander-in-chief is on the line. marthaline.

>> here we go, a hearing on white house security underway on capitol hill. lawmakers demanding answers on the head of the secret service as shockingly details leak out of the most recent, unbelievable security breach at the

white house. brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." bill: how in the world has this happened in wire the details so secret? the secret service facing credibility to protect the president. now we're learning of the man who jumped the fence 10 days ago passing several layers of security running through the front door, got into at least the east room, a lot farther than previously admitted. martha: mikey manual on capitol hill as we get ready for this hearing. what we expect to hear from the secret service director? she is on a hotspot this morning. >> we expect julia to say she taketakes for responsibly what happened with omar gonzalez hitting deeply into the white house is unacceptable and will never happen again. bottom line we expect she will get some information classified protecting the white house and the united states, set will be

saved for a closed session. she will say a familiar washington thing that there is an investigation underway and she doesn't want to get ahead of it and expected to talk about the 16 or so fence jumpers all pretty much routine and the six captured routinely this year. many members in a house oversight committee will want to focus on the one that got a whole lot deeper into the white house on september 19, martha. martha: he could have gone up to the residence at that point. so what to expect from the lawmakers from both sides of the aisle on this? >> we expect bipartisan outrage on this one. sometimes you have one party one have to do with this, one protecting the with. it in this case we expect both parties to go after the witness to figure out what led to this breakdown. some are calling for heads to roll. the fence jumper reached five rings of security at the white house. sources have called that a

catastrophic failure when the president isn't fair, mention of the president and first lady had been there, so lawmakers are going to want to know this is fixed and she will have to convince them she is a person to fix it, a tall order when they will say they have been too many bad headlines at the secret service, it is time for heads to roll. martha: she will be fighting for her job. 15 minutes or so before this guy got in, so just a whisper of time in between. thank you very much. bill: the white house trying to walk back comments from the president the intelligence community failed to assess threats from isis. this afternoon revelations president obama has warned a mack been warned repeatedly of that group for more than a year. in exchange with ed henry yesterday. >> why don't you say we?

>> the president has confidence. >> everybody in the u.s. government was surprised, nobody is going to be held accountable? >> predicting the will of foreign security forces to fight for their country is difficult. bill: chief white house correspondent ed henry live on the lawn, the president shifting blame, passing the buck, how is this being characterized? >> it sounded like that, but josh earnest was trying to say everybody was to blame, the president was not trying to pass the buck. when you look at the question on "60 minutes," he says were you, mr. president, surprised. he shifted it to others in the intelligence community, they were surprised. it didn't sound like he was taking personal responsibility. also fascinating spokesperson on fox and friends impressed of the

group, former al qaeda operatives now such a big threat the president used them to justify expanding military action in syria. if they have been tracking them for two years, how does that look with the president surprised by some of these threats from isis and others? it sounds contradictory. bill: aside for the back-and-forth, they did issue warnings about isis, correct? >> no doubt about it. he had admitted to "the washington post" earlier this month he and others underestimated the strength of isis an overestimate of the power of the iraqi arm army to h back. but what he left out was there was an open hearing on capitol hill with the civil war in syria was getting worse, hundreds of extremist groups and

isis was one of the most dangerous. so that warning was out of there. they are quoting all kinds of anonymous officials inside the obama administration saying they warned with intelligence reports, et cetera. he was determined not to be dragged back into war, and it appears ignored some of the warnings. bill: thanks. martha: did the intelligence community underestimate isis that much or has the white house misunderstood the evolution of al qaeda as some critics claim? >> the guys who lead the group are senior al qaeda leaders who have pedigree that go back years if not decades. martha: senior writer for the weekly standard, and was involved in that very interesting in-depth story that appeared in the weekly standard by the reporter you just saw. is that correct?

>> he wrote it for the weekly standard. martha: so many of us say what is that, we have been hearing about these isis coming and suddenly this other group comes to head. it is not some new mysterious thing, it is al qaeda. the white house doesn't want to call it that, why? >> the top advisors have been saying for year al qaeda is decimated and on the run, they implied certainly in a strong way al qaeda more broadly was on the road defeat. but it is a series that have direct links al qaeda, usama bin laden, the very people they have been claiming have been defeated, these are folks who

set up camp on the orders of now al qaeda's top leader in syria to plot attacks on the rest. they were warning of these leaders back in the spring of 2014, so it is well known to people outside of the intelligence. and inside about this group and the threat they presented. martha: to say the core al qaeda has been decimated, no other suggesting we were talking about afghanistan and pakistan, that is the core al qaeda. you are pointing out and thomas pointed out in this piece the leaders of this khorasan group were picked by the right-hand man to usama bin laden and he encouraged all of the foreign fighters. saying syria is the place to be, but he is very familiar with as leader of al qaeda.

it is easier in this area getting in and out of these structures easier, we can build a basin and we will attack westerners from it, is that correct? >> that is exactly right. from the obama campaign in the six months prior to the election was fundamentally a political argument. it wasn't a lot of intelligence that supported the claim for al qaeda was decimated. i think the important point to make his it is not just the case the president dismissed intelligence community or didn't get intelligence they are suggesting. the present administration and top intelligence officials including the head of the cia heard these arguments, they heard the presentations by among others people at the defense intelligence agency heard them and dismiss them. the president's worldview and political argument was al qaeda defeated the war on terror that

doesn't require sustained campaign. that appears not to be the case and i think what you are seeing now is all of the administrations eagerness to make the political argument against reality coming back to haunt them. martha: steve, thank you very much. bill: a very interesting context moving through this story. we will let you know what happens in regards to this case. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu putting the threat of iran in serious context get a >> imagine how it or dangerous islamic state, isis, would be if it possessed chemical weapons. come to how much more dangerous islamic state of iran would be if it possesses nuclear weapons. bill: so are we fighting the battle but losing the war? ambassador john bolton will

attack cap next. martha: and a brutal beheading of a woman in oklahoma. how the suspect was extremist propaganda online yet called workplace violence. is the fbi afraid of offending somebody here? bill: police finding the body of this missing arkansas mother, the suspect in the murder speaking to reporters during the watch a few hours earlier. watch. >> why beverly? >> do you have anything to say to the family? >> sorry. >> what else do you want to say to the family? >> sorry. óqoqúúñ@

bill: julia pierson runs the secret service and is not hot seat at the reform meeting just underway now. we were listening to the minority member and majority member bill i said. what he said is very important. you have to project the white house is the safest place in america if not the world and it is entirely off-limits to anybody. we will take you there in a moment. martha: israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu equating the growing terrorist threat as the same calls coming out of iran regime. here is a netanyahu a fire in ad speech he gave yesterday at the

u.n. >> would you let isis build a reactor? would you let isis build ballistic missiles? of coarse you wouldn't. then you mustn't let the islamic state of iran do those things either. make no mistake. isis must be defeated, but to defeat isis and leave iran as a threshold nuclear power is to win the battle and lose the war. martha: john bolton former u.n. ambassador and good morning, good to have you here. he referred to a threshold nuclear power, some are concerned we have made adjustments in our policy toward iran allowing them to get closer to that goal. >> of course you administration for six years has been desperate to have a negotiated settlement with iran and in the past year in particular has made one concession after another in their desperate search for a

deal. the only reason we haven't reached a deal despite the flurry of negotiations because i ran senses there are more consistency obama administration is willing to make and why not get as many as you can before you finally are done. it is a huge danger, we shouldn't feel distant from this threat ones iran gets nuclear weapons given the role in international terrorism we are equally vulnerable be i, if. martha: concerta has created a situation where they're taking their eye off the ball in iran. >> i thought important point prime minister netanyahu was making was he ideological similarity between isis or the islamic state, has block, hamas, regina itself which has been the world central bank of terrorist on equal opportunity basis since 1979.

they are all motivated by an extremist ideology, obviously differences, at war with each other in some cases but they're all at war with the west. martha: she has suggested in the past sort of return to iran for help in this situation. maybe what happens down the ro road, saying that may be where this goes. what do you think? >> last week in his speech to the general assembly put that deal on the table, and i think the administration is gullible enough to take it up unless people make the warnings here enough, what was saying is finish off the rest of the economic sanctions against iran, allow us to continue uranium enrichment and we will work to fight against isis.

martha: in everything you are saying you believe this administration has vastly underestimated him and have been gullible to this message of reform. why do you think that is? >> i think the president believes he can negotiate with iran to eliminate the nuclear weapons threat, and i think that is naive in the extreme. iran and north korea are never going to be talked out of the nuclear weapons program. not a question of iran having the problem and using it as the biggest financer of international terrorism they can make themselves in effect immune from retaliation. making a telegram had nuclear weapons, would be be so quick to invade afghanistan? this is a risk for the united states the present vastly underestimates the threat posed by nuclear iran and i am deeply worried after our november election when it is too late to do anything about the

concessions made, we will see this deal cut between iran, we will pay for it for a long time. martha: good to see you, as always. bill: sitting the sites in the u.s. senate in virginia. a tough battle with democratic senator. we will talk to him. martha: it costs hundreds of millions of dollars and it doesn't work. now oregon dumping the obamacare website because they say it is simply not working. why people may end up paying even more for their health care. ♪

martha: another one of these kind of stories from china. a frightening ordeal. firefighters came in to rescue her, she is okay. they had to cut open the window bars with hydraulic old cutters. they removed the steel bars and removed her, and she is okay. happened over the weekend in southwest china. bill: someday her head will be too big to get through the bars. another debacle for obamacare. taxpayers stuck with the bill. officials and oregon deciding if they are going to scrap the health care exchange. that website still doesn't work and on top of that many of the folks who signed up for health care had tax credits miscalculated. cover oregon is the name. why not pull the plug?

>> that is exactly what republicans are saying but democrats in charge of the legislature and the governor's office once to wait until after the november election. the quasigovernmental agency received money from taxpayers and could not sign of us in the person on the website. every day is stays open cost another $200,000. they are not in regular session until next february, there would have to be a session to cover oregon. democrats refusing to call a one-day session to put it out of its misery. speak we have to have a transfer to the federal system work because the most important thing now is when they apply for insurance, have a system they can go to be at >> it will cost $20 billion to cover oregon working until february. bill: now comes word cover

oregon miscalculated the tax breaks. >> 80% of the people who got health care through the healthcare.gov through the state exchange receive a tax credit, but 800 were not entitled to one now they all the federal government back taxes. it was discovered by cover oregon and now the legislature is talking about tax bills that are due. drawing ridicule across the country. john oliver took a swipe on his hbo show saying enough already. >> there are some politics at play here. we will have to be adults and say this has failed and we have to move forward and do the best thing for the people of oregon. >> he is up for reelection, an early supporter of obamacare and cover oregon. bill: it is news that keeps on coming. thank you. from the pacific northwest, and springer.

martha: the house oversight committee opening statements right now. making the opening statement in response to the man who got all the way over the fence into the white house and deep inside the residence with a weapon. more on that hearing coming up. bill: the body of the missing agent has been found in a shallow grave. and telling words for reporters earlier this morning. >> why beverly? >> did you kill her?

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that involved in the various trip to south america. she was brought into sort of right things at the agency. now we have news several people who have breached the fence over the past several years and this most recent egregious example of the man who made it through by some accounts seven different safeguard points in the white house up over the fence, through the door. apparently there was a buzzer somebody had turned off because they didn't like the sound of it around the first floor all the way through the east room and was stopped and tackled on his way into the green room by a female secret service agent who was in that section of the white house. here is a bit of soundbite on this. >> after the fed jumping into this, secret service was very quick to put out a statement that said honors the officers and agents for their tremendous restraint.

tremendous restraint is not what we're looking for. tremendous restraint is not the goal of the;wo objective. it sends a very mixed message. the message should be overwhelming force. if you can hop the fence and run all the way into an open door at the white house, don't praise them for tremendous restraint, that is not the goal, that is not what we are looking for. martha: questioning now as we wait for julia pierson to begin her statement. bill: the secret service has not followed basic protocol, we know that. for example they did not lock down certain areas of the property, did not elevate the threat level so other uniformed officers and agents working at the time would know what is happening. that is a standard response, and you mentioned this buzzer, this alarm was muted or turned down. a friday afternoon i do believe,

you can imagine you are caught off guard here or there, but the big concern among the secret service has been if you get more than one jumper, multiple jumpers, how do you deal with that? fed is the great concern and the great fear. one guy on a friday afternoon and if you had more, what kind of damage could have been done? martha: what if he made it up the stairs instead of around the corner? he had access to the staircase that went up to the residence, the family was there 15 minutes before this happened. it begs the question, what is the procedure when somebody reaches that far? do you shoot to take them down, to stop them in this path? a lot of big questions here for julia pierson. bill: under fire going back about three years about the agency described as what happened on the visit during the

prostitution scandal in south korea in a presidential visit down there. part of the reason why julia pierson was brought into this job because of what happened in south america. they wanted a woman in charge who could be the front individual for the agency and get everything sorted out. we will see how she explains this. martha: darrell issa asked the question how much would it cost to lock the front door? one would assume the white house would have the very basic security in place. bill: darrell issa says you have to let the country and the world know this place is off limits, no safer than the white house. it should be a matter of moments before she begins her statement. >> be able to participate in these hearings without objections. we now welcome our panel of witnesses, the honorable julia

pierson is the director of the united states secret service. the honorable ralph is a former director of the united states secret service and currently a partner at the command consulting group. the honorable todd keele is a former assistant secretary for infrastructure protection in the united states department of homeland security and is currently a senior advisor to touchstone page pursuant to the committee's rules i have asked all rise and raise your right hand to take the oath. do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give over the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? please be seated. let the record reflect they answered in the affirmative in order to allow sufficient time for discussion, question, please limit your testimony to five minutes. your opening statement will be

made a permanent part of the record. and with that, director pearson, you are recognized. >> good morning, chairman, distant whispers of a committee. i'm here to address the concerns we all share following the incident september 19 at the white house. it is clear the security plan was not properly executed. this was unacceptable and i take full responsibility and will make sure it does not happen again. as director, my primary concerns ensuring the readiness of my workforce i have been aggressive in attracting human capital challenges, ensuring ping leaders. through active engagement with the agency supervisors and employees i have made it clear my fixation's for professionalism. much of what we do to protect the white house involves information highly sensitive or classified so i will be limited in what i can say at a public

hearing. i said, 19th and man scaled the north fence the white house crossing the line ignoring verbal commands from officers, enter the front door and was subsequently arrested on the state floor. immediately that night i ordered enhancements around the complex and with the secretary a comprehensive review to ensure this would not happen again. review begin with an assessment of the site, personal interviews. all decisions made that evening are being evaluated and putting those and tactics and use of force in light of the totality of the circumstances confronting those officers. i am committed to the following, complete and thorough investigation to the facts of this incident, complete and thorough review of policies, procedures, protocols in place securing the complex and the response to this incident based on results of that review a coordinated, informed effort to make any and all adjustments through training and personal

actions that are necessary to properly ensure the safety and security of the president and the first family and the white house. the white house emergency action plans are multifaceted tailored to each thread. they apprehended 16 individuals who jumped the fence the last five years including six this year alone. september 11, 2014, a week prior to the events subject to today's hearings, officers apprehended an individual seconds after he scaled the fence and ran onto the ground speed the fence jumpers, hundreds of individuals who approached the white house perimeter verbalizing threats to the protect these are acting in a suspicious manner. officers and agents leverage the experience and training to make decisions to arrest or transfer those individuals to the facilities for mental health evaluations. protecting the white house complex is a challenge in any threat environment in addition to being a national icon, the complex has public spaces, executive offices for the highest, gates and the private

residence of the first family. ensuring the safety while preserving the visitors offers a unique balance. we are never satisfied by the status quo, constant very revealing security protocol. with the help of com commas we e enhanced the countermeasures and security features at the white house. in the past five years the secret service has operated cameras and commanded control systems with enhancements to highly classified programs that have made the president and the complex more secure. we have generated many in response to direct information on known and emerging terrorist threats. i think the comments for the support in this time of constrained resources. beyond technology, preferably 75% of our annual budget is dedicated to payroll cost the support the most valuable asset, our people. we rely on experience, training and judgment of the men and

women to make critical split-second decisions. with respect to the many questions raised and opinions in the wake of the september 19 incident, i do not want to get ahead of the investigation that is underway. the secret service has had its share of challenges in the recent years, some during my tenure. i plan to leave the secret service to these challenges and restore the agency reputation to the level of excellence in american public expects. as director i am proud of the secret service who serve everyday with honor and distinction. last week employees in limited security operations in conjunction with united nations general assembly in new york city protecting the president and more than 140 world leaders. they have completed over 5600 successful protective missions. it is my response play to ensure these men and women have the resources and training they need to receive. after a draft work with department of homeland security, secretary johnson, administration and congress to

include members of this committee to include comprehensive strategy to further enhance the secret service workforce and operational capabilities. we remain dedicated and committed to protecting the president, first family and sanctity of the white house. i think the committee for the opportunity to appear and i look forward to your questions. >> thank you. bill: that is the secre secret e director julia pierson taking the record possibility for the breach 11 days ago. army veteran made it further into the white house on that day than previously disclosed. we learned that late yesterday. darrell issa saying the breach at least five rings of security september 19 and they are looking for answers now. martha: more on that coming up. the suspect in the beheading of a former coworker had a facebook page full of images and statements yet the fbi says the

crime is another place of workplace violence. is that so? we will talk about it. bill: and tony stuart talk about the night his car hit and killed another driver, saying he is ready to talk the victims family. what will he say? >> from what i read, he had a very promising career. sounded like he was doing a good job, so i think he had a lot to look forward to.

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martha: some of the top stories this morning, u.s. forces will remain in afghanistan through the end of the year after the signing of a long-awaited security pact. and the cbc is best hitting if a respiratory virus can be responsible for 10 cases of paralysis. children in colorado have tested positive for the virus. and concerns of the possibility of another deadly eruption in japan, the walking of erupted on saturday killing at least 36 people who were hiking on the volcano and not take it over to bill at the board. bill: waiting on the midterms, martha? 35 days away. balance on the senate is the real question in washington. six seats is what republicans need to take a majority in the u.s. senate. so we put together a number of scenarios when it comes to what is and the what-if scenarios stack up on the board the following ways.

they believe they can win in west virginia putting them at 46. simply they can win in south dakota putting them at 47. they do believe montana is theirs as well putting them at 48. so where do you go to get three more votes? one states not talk about a lot is the state of virginia. you can go back to 2012 when virginia and the presidential matchup, the states that went blue for a second time and president obama taking the city by four points over mitt romney. here is a guy who wants to change that scenario. former chairman running for the republican seat in virginia be had in the studio, nice to see you, and good morning to you. you were down, although a recent poll heading down only nine points, how do you win in a state that has gone blue? >> had a couple of blue elections but it is purple. the pendulum is swinging back

right now, mark warner has voted with president obama 97% of the time. as i get the message out and talk about his record in support of obamacare, talk about my positive agenda for economic growth we have seen these polls close. now we are in single digits. bill: if you win, you need a favorable turnout for a victory, right? that is what you need, a big turnout. >> we have a lot of enthusiasm and energy with our volunteers, and we will see big turnout. despite having carried the states by 51% with 51% in 2012, approval rating like nationally is dropping. bill: about 13 points give or take a little bit on the board. we have invited your opponent,

we look to talk to him on "america's newsroom." you are part of writing the contract in america and big discussion into whether or not the republican party has to do what they did in 1994, now it is 2014. >> i am running a positive agenda. it is five common sense solutions getting bipartisan support beginning th replacing the affordable care act with market-oriented reforms that would work. it includes unleashing american energy which is very important where we have vast resources under revelatory assault, and supporting cap and trade and the carbon tax and the deep sea coast have been under moratorium since before president obama took office.

bill: whether you win or not the republicans take the senate? >> i think republicans take the senate and my win takes it. not only mark warner will become a senator, but harry reid will become the former senate majority leader, that is something people realize this is a high-stakes election this year and virginians know it. bill: probably high-stakes in the country as well trying to get into the u.s. senate. do you see it as a wave election? >> everywhere i go there is a wave building there, and people are concerned. too many are feeling squeezed between lost jobs, stagnant wages, reduced working hours and higher prices for health care, energy, college, food, but is not a matter of fate, bill, that is bad policies. it would is the squeeze to make it easier to make work.

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martha: when awful story that has been, investing the beheading of an oklahoma woman as an incident of "workplace violence." she was attacked while assaulting a victim. writing no indication that nolan was copying isil, no religious

motivation, how stupid does the fbi think we are? what are they exactly afraid of offending, isil? lou dobbs. host of "lou dobbs tonight." that sentiment he expresses is what anybody would think when you look at this situation he yu read the things on the website, the taking down of the twin towers and what he said when he was attacking her. >> other expressions that go along with a terrorist act, the beheading itself by whatever definition. it is an expert in anything, martha, there is a concern within the government as to what you designate this slaying. it is without question related to terrorism and the ideology which is the foundation of that. that is your concern for the department of homeland security. instead of getting down to these

artificial as to whether or not it is workplace violence, this is an absurdity. the federal government is playing to domestic politics with each one of these. they are not concerned about the islamic state feels about what we are saying and defining acts of violence as. we are concerned for domestic and political correctness has beyond run amok. martha: eric holder putting a ban on place profiling investigations. that is something educated law enforcement uses to its benefit in many ways without the necessity to offend anybody all along that. >> exactly. martha: they don't feel that way, apparently. >> federal enforcement don't have the ability to make this from a tory judgments and descriptions of a suspect, what

in the world is our government thinking. eric holder is playing to a domestic audience for political purpose rather than acting in the national interest in areas of national security and the war on terrorism. i can't even imagine the effect. our law enforcement is professional, federal law enforcement agencies sufficiently professional, think the most professional in the world. to make those judgments. for the attorney general to play politics as he exits is i suppose a fitting period. martha: thank you very much. bill: more on the scandal rocking the secret service hearing underway. when the head of the secret service says she takes full responsibility. ññ

>> that was two hours that kind of-- >> flew by for me and you. >> that's right. >> we will see you tomorrow.

we'll bab here tomorrow. bill: we'll see what comes out hearing. she takes full responsibility. will not happen again. martha: we heard that before. we'll see if she means it. "happening now" starts right now, everybody. we'll see you tomorrow. >> guess what? they didn't tell is the truth. there are new shocking details emerging about the latest white house security breach. just how far they got into the president's home. it is latest embarassment for the secret service. comes as the head of the secret service has been testifying this morning on capitol hill. i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. shannon: i'm shannon bream in for jenna lee. seems the iraq war veteran who burst into the white house armed with a knife earlier this month, got a whole lot further than secret service omitted. "washington post" reported that omar gonzalez rather than and much of the first floor of pennsylvania avenue, including past a