i'm bill o'reilly, please always remember the spin stops here. we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, the terror army known as isis has advanced to the outskirts of baghdad. facing a weak and fearful iraqi army just miles away from possibly grabbing its biggest prize yet. welcome to the kelly file. i'm megyn kelly. it was then president obama described isis as jv. since then we have seen the jv squad capture mosul, tikrit and ramadi, establishing a territory the size of the united kingdom. now that group also controls most of the suburbs to the northwest and south of baghdad. they have been testing the troops there defending that city with a series of hit and run

attacks in the last 48 hours. and today isis is suspected of staging a bloody series of car bombs inside baghdad including one that nearly killed an iraqi minister. there are serious concerns about what will happen if isis does manage to breach the iraqi capital and whether iraqi fighters have the courage to drive them out. >> megyn, nobody is quite sure how far isis fighters are from reaching the capital baghdad but the department of defense is acknowledging that isis could now be within five miles. that means the fight is approaching the baghdad suburbs. the clashes have killed hundreds of iraqi soldiers. today rear admiral john kirby was asked if iraqi fighters could hold their ground. listen to him. >> so i think we're -- i can't predict anything one way or the other other than to tell you what i can predict is we're going to continue to work with them in their defenses of it.

>> but those in and around baghdad aren't sure the air strikes will be enough. they point out that isis controls a wide swath of land to the west of baghdad and they've taken over farmland to the north and east. experts also say that iraqi forces are just now in the process of rebuilding and retraining and they could be several months away from being able to fend for themselves. remember, it was only a week ago that islamic state fighters overran a key iraqi military base outside of fallujah. while the focus of the iraqi military and government is to keep isis fighters outside the city today there were several attacks inside baghdad including at least three car bombs that killed dozens and several mortar rounds were also fired. so far there has been no claim of responsibility, but all of the attacks happened in main ll shiite muslim district, a tell tale sign. mortars also at close range

meaning they were fired from inside the district or just outside the district. andrew white is a priest with the church of england in iraq. he's ra storied figure in that country. earlier yesterday, this man who was guarded by 30 security guards sent out an sos on his facebook page saying, quote, the islamic state are on the verge of entering baghdad. he added, all the military air strikes are doing nothing. if ever we needed your prayer, it is now. he is in baghdad now. i spoke with him hours ago through an internet hook-up that was weak but his message was powerful. watch this. canon white, very good to be here tonight. despite the fact that you have a personal struggle with m.s., despite threats on your life, despite being subjected to all sorts of if not torture close to and losing many of your staff members, you've stayed in iraq to try to broker a peace between the sunni and the shia.

never i assume did you anticipate seeing a force like isis. what is the state in baghdad tonight as this force is apparently on the western outskirts of the city? >> well, the reality is we are in the most difficult period i have ever seen. i've been here for years, but people are even too afraid to go out to the street, the streets are almost empty and people are fearful of what is going to happen. all of the christians originate from nineveh which is mosul. and so they have all had family members who have been killed. they've been slaughtered, massacred, and so there is fear down here that what has happened up there. >> what is your plan tonight? because i know -- i want our

viewers to know that you've had up to 35 iraqi security guards protecting you at times because you are a likely target given what you do and what you stand for -- peace, love, christianity. in any event, is there any plan to run, to try to get out of the city? >> well, the problem is there s isn't much opportunity. if you go by car, you go through the central part of the city which is now under isis control. if you try to fly out, that isn't easy because for example. >> the first flight that i can get out is on monday. so i'm here. so tonight oim here. >> are you scared? >> i have to be honest with you,

one of my biggest danger, according to security people is i have no concept of fear. i do not fear ever. so no, i'm not scared. i fear for my people. i fear for what could happen to my people. >> the guards are with you, the iraqi army is continuing to fight, says the u.s. government. do you have faith in them? >> i'm laughing because i said to one of my soldiers today, if isis were coming towards you, what would you do? he said take off my uniform. why are you a soldier?

what are you doing? aren't you protecting us? he said, no, i'm in it because of the money. >> he needs the money. >> how can you put your complete trust in an army who responds like that? >> do you think that it will keep thins secure in baghdad? >> not at all. i've had people, our people killed by the air strike. i don't know what is being achieved by them. but it's very, very little. the fact is people like isis can only be controlled by troops on the ground. and where are they? we haven't got any.

>> thank you for your time tonight. we'll continue to check in with you as we continue to follow isis' path. what he needs is prayer more than ever. all the best, sir. >> thank you very much. >> joining me is general north. when you hear stories about how they say they'll take off their uniforms and run, your reaction? >> they've done it before. they'll do it again. k canon andrew white has figured it out. he understands better than they do at the white house right down the street from me what's really going on out there. i talked to several people after you had that conversation with andrew, and they say that the mobile strike units don't right now have the strength to seize the city, and it's important to note that there are about 15,000 shiite volunteers that responded to ayatollah ali sistani's call to defend their neighborhoods

and most showed up with an ak-47, a single magazine and their sandals. look, one of our very close friends out there said to me that the iraqi army is reeling, poorly led and fearful. he said the bottom line is this isn't saigon yet. it may well get to be. because you don't have the kind of strength that you need on the ground. as the vicar points out very quickly, it takes real troop, rough men with rifles to defend a piece of terrain. you can't do it simply with a airplanes. unfortunately that's what we're trying to do. >> what if baghdad falls? >> a bloodbath of biblical proportions. we've already seen and you and i have seen things that we would never put on the air. the footage of people being crucified of having their heads severed, put on stakes, atrocities the likes of which we've not seen certainly in my

lifetime since i guess my lifetime, but certainly not yours. we're not doing anything of the kinds of things that we said we would do. the obama administration promised that they would provide support for the kurds. one plane load of supplies has come directly from the united states and not gone through baghdad. it's outrageous the lies that we've been told, the vicar has it right. we need troops on the ground. >> wow. and prayers as well. colonel, good to see you. >> amen. >> well, there's big news breaking about white house security. not only did a guy with a knife run right past secret service into the east room of the white house, now we have details on a convict with a gun who got face-to-face with president oba obama. plus why is a college letting a convicted cop killer give a commencement address? we'll hear from the college and from the police officer's widow live. and you will not believe some of what we're learning tonight about the recent muslim convert who beheaded one co-worker and tried to kill another. next.

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yaqimyisrael entered the vaughan processing plant after being terminated. now we learn that's not true. he was simply suspended according to police. colleen hufford, a wife, mother and grandmother is the person he beheaded. this poor lady. trace gallagher live with the very latest tonight. trace? >> megyn between statements between the district attorney and the police affidavit we have a much clearer picture of this gruesome attack. the d.a. says alton nolen did confess to the beheading including targeting his victims including one of the women that complained to human resources about a statement he made. the attack was premeditated. the affidavit said he went home, grabbed a large-bladed knife and came back to the food processing plant where he, quote, grabbed first victim from behind and immediately began cutting her across the throat with a large knife with a back and forth sawing motion all the while shouting arabic statements. here's the d.a. >> obviously there was some sort

of infatuation with beheading. that's obvious from the facebook posts. so the manner in which it was carried out seems to be related to his interest in killing someone in that way. >> the d.a. did not touch on alton nolen's call for jihad against america o or his celebration of 9/11 only saying that terrorism charges would come from the fbi but that he'd likely seek the death penalty after consulting with the family of colleen hufford, the woman who was beheaded. seen here for the first time with her husband, daughter and granddaughter, family and friends have now set up a facebook tribute page for the woman they call a loyal mother, a doting grandmother and one of the sweetest people ever. hufford was just recovering from losing her home in last year's devastating tornado. her husband picked her up from work every night, and he was waiting outside when he learned that she had been killed. megyn. >> oh, trace, thank you. fbi officials say they have found no link to terrorism here

yet. and are so far calling this workplace violence. but that is not selling with a small group of oklahoma lawmakers who just issued a statement reading in part, quote, the feds say this is a workplace violence, but people know that's not true. harris saffar is a spokesperson for ham ma dhea muslim group but first we're joined by one of the lawmakers that signed off on that joint statement. why do you reject what the fbi is so far calling this a case of workplace violence? >> megyn, we believe that this was not workplace violence but an act of terrorism, and it is something that if it were an act of terrorism, that the federal government might get more involved with, so if we call it a murder, then our local law enforcement who are quite capable can handle the situation. >> you think it's political correctness? >> it definitely is political correctness. >> here's what the prosecutor

said today. there's no indication that nolen -- i'm sorry. this is from "the washington pos post", no indication that nolen was mimicking the recent beheadings carried out by isis. do you believe that? >> i can't see how this is anything but copycat killing. this is exactly what they want to do. it's an act of shock and horror to -- designed to intimidate and terrorize the people of oklahoma and the people of the united states. >> but they also said -- this is from the prosecutor. the attack appeared to be about revenge for his suspension, not religion. his suspension was because he was reportedly running around to convert people to islam, they refused. so they suspended him. and he went home and got a knife and cut their head off. the attack appears to be about revenge not religion. your thoughts? >> if it were anything other than religion, then he could

have chosen many other ways to get his frustration across. this is a fine company. they have ways, personnel manners in which he could have gotten his point across and got this issue handled. he chose a way that was designed to terrorize the rest of us. >> sir, thank you for being here. >> thank you very much. >> harris, when you hear them say that -- there's no indication he was mimicking the recent beheadings carried out by the islamic state. really? except for the pictures of beheadings on his facebook page accompanied by a caption discussing the penchant of islamic terrorists to behead their victims. i will instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever, smite ye above their necks. that suggests there may have been some connection in this guy's mind between beheading people and radical islam which he was trying to convert people to and they objected and then he

got suspended. >> well, first, it's important to say that violence of any kind like this is abhorred, which is why we wholly reject this barbaric act. aside from the fact that the case does show, the d.a. and the prosecutors, that he was suspended for racist remarks not trying to convert people. >> no, they have not ruled that out. that's not true. that's just an additional element. he didn't like whites and he didn't like non-muslims. >> i'm quoting the district attorney. but the islamic community wholeheartedly agrees with frank wolf that this case should be investigated to determine whether this man had any ties with organized terror movement. >> let's assume he didn't. but let me ask you that. let's assume he didn't. we've been warned by the fbi for months now that you can have home grown lone wolf terrorists that have no connection to terrorist groups who are terrorists, radical islamists. do you disagree?

>> we've seen people that are self-radicalized. the debate here is why is this not being called terrorism. the fbi has published on the website the definition of terrorism. you didn't bring me on here as a legal expert, you brought me here as a representative of islam. there's one thing to investigate terrorism, which we agree should be brought to determine but there's quite another matter to say that this is like representative moore has said, that this is a clear indication of something reflective of shariah and the shariah should be preempted or stopped or scrutinized. that's not a rational conclusion based on the actions of this insane man who turns to violence. >> i mean, this is a -- the reason they went there is because this man praised shariah all over his facebook page, which has now been taken down but we actually studied it at length, is jihad, jihad, jihad, america is wicked, it should be attacked. statute of liberty is going into

flames. islam will dominate the world. freedom can go to hell. pictures of beheadings. what does he do after he fails to convert people to islaislam, cuts off their heads. people might think there's a connection. >> what we're trying to bring forth is you can talk about the actions of these lunatics, but anyone who says, like representative moore, that shariah law is threatening america is not only ignorent of shariah but ignore ant of the constitution. they have a built-in mechanism. >> but under the u.s. constitution you can't stone a woman for adultery, you can't bury her in the sand. >> that's not shariah law. megyn, you know that we're more than willing to talk about shariah law. and that's not what sha ree ra is according to islam. >> not only that but stoning for adultery. >> which shariah are we talking about? every country has a different shariah. >> i didn't say under all. but some forms.

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jason chaffetz questioned the head of the secret service today about whether she briefed the president on one or more of these incidents. >> what percentage of the time do you inform the president in his personal security has been breached? >> i would say in proximity to the incident. >> now, i asked you what percentage of the time do you inform the president if his personal security is in any way, shape or form been breached? >> percent of the time, 100% of the time i would advise the president. >> you would advise the president? >> yes. >> in calendar year 2014, how many times has that happened? >> i have not briefed him with the exception of one occasion for the september 19th incident. >> so the only time you've briefed the president on perimeter security, the president's personal security, the first family's security has been one time in 2014?

>> that's correct. >> congressman jason chaffetz is with me now. i assume you were trying to establish that she neglected to inform him he was in locked box with a man who was a convicted felon holding a gun on him? >> i knew about that incident but it wasn't yet out in the public. i wanted to see if she was going to be open, candid and honest, and i don't think she was. i think it's time that she be fired by the president of the united states or that she resign. she either did not -- she did not either -- she did not tell the president of the united states that a three-time convict with a gun was on -- was in an elevator with the president. secret service did not know he had a gun, only found out after the fact. and that since that incident happened literally two weeks ago today, she either did not tell the president, which she should have done, or she did tell the president and lied to congress. you can't have it both ways. >> the white house advance team's got some responsibility for that as well, i assume.

has she represented -- has she demonstrated an incompetence? can we fairly lay it all on this woman? >> look, she was hired originally as the chief of staff and then promoted to become the director more than a year ago because there was a severe morale problem here. that's not been turned around. the protocol is lacking. the training is just not happening. and leadership is really questionable. she has not turned this agency around. and this is an agency that can never, ever, ever make a mistake, yet they're happening faster than we can even name them. >> that's exactly right. congressman, thank you. >> thank you. >> joining me is a former secret service agent who served in the obama administration and the bush administration. your comments on whether ms. pierson needs to go? >> yeah, unfortunately, megyn, i think she does. it's not just her. there's a small group and cabal of managers that have been there for a long time that, frankly -- and i'm sorry to say this -- have decimated the agency.

morale is terrible. i don't know if they're preparing for their second careers, trying to butter up to the white house staff, but they have destroyed morale of the men and women of the secret service that call me and speak to me, megyn, are just infuriated and enraged at the lack of leadership, the lack of ability to stand up to the white house staff and take this agency to a better tomorrow. they need to fix this. >> what specifically have they done? why is the morale so low. >> they don't feel the people in the upper management are making the proper decisions and defending them when it comes to the friction battles that happen constantly -- books have been written about it -- with the secret service aelgts on the ground, the rank and file and the staff. >> how can they miss that? these two cases how do you blame that on bureaucracy? >> well, i'll give you an example. we had the incident in south africa for the mandela funeral. the mandela funeral, the president should have never gone

to that event. the secret service agents that actually do the work -- i've done three foreign advance, excuse me, where i was the lead advance, ha was impossible to secure. those agents knew it. the staff pushed for that event and we didn't have people in management willing to fight the fight. megyn, no rank and file agent will walk into the oval office and tell the president you're not going to the mandela funeral. it takes people with d.c. gravitas. >> but those who jumped over the fence the other day, how do you blame that on anybody than the secret service with all due respect to the men and women who protect the president. >> i'm not absolving or apologizing for them. i don't work there any more. but there are a number of systemic problems that could have led to this. we have people on that post who were right out of the academy watching the front door of the white house, a united nations general assembly preparation session going on up in new york. you had tons of uniformed

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a senior senator has thrown down the gauntlet in what has become one of biggest fights in washington this fall. the obama administration claims that the intel community underestimated the terror army known as isis. the intel community says that's not exactly true.

and now a top senator has issued a challenge directly to president obama. ed henry is our chief white house correspondent. he has the story. >> good evening, new tonight, republicans calling for the president to release copies of his presidential daily brief. that is known as the pdb. the daily intelligence information. very sensitive information he gets from threats around the world. republican lindsey graham saying the only way to fact check what the president said on "60 minutes" sunday night when he basically suggested that the intelligence community had kept him in the dark about the threat of isis, that they didn't keep up with it quick enough, is to get this information and see what the president was briefed on in recent months, the last year or so. and also worth noting intel officials today blasting the president in "the new york times" suggesting that they had warned him. they set off alarm bells about the threat from isis, but he ignored them. listen to this. >> the white house just didn't pay attention to it. they were preoccupied with other crises.

this was not a big priority. sounds a lot different what the intelligence community is saying and what this white house is saying. >> well, the leader of the intelligence community, jim clapper, he's the director of national intelligence and today he put out a message to the intelligence community that directly contradicts the anonymous individual who is quoted in t"the new york times" today. >> what lindsey graham is trying to do is follow up on the report that in the president's daily brief for at least a year now he's gotten warnings about the threat from isis but that they were ignored. the white house has not denied that it was in the pdb, but i pressed josh ernest today, will you release that, he said unlikely because this is highly classified sensitive information. >> joining us now brit hume. they're not wrong that james clapper did come out and fall on his sword and say, it was us. we didn't correctly estimate this threat. the president was quick to jump on that and say, see! >> what he's saying is that they failed to estimate how well the

iraqi security force, how well the iraqi military would respond because, as the white house keeps on telling us, it's awfully hard to know how a foreign military force will hold up when it gets down to the actual fighting. that's, of course, not exactly what the president said in first place. he talked about underestimating isis. >> but clapper also said that they underestimated isis. he told that to david ignatius of "the washington post" last week. >> that's fine. clapper is a guy who is -- has been in a kind of weak position in the administration ever since he lied outright to congress about whether there had been any, you know, mass gathering of phone data on americans, and he's in a position where i think his standing is such that he's not in a very good position to resist the administration if it wants him to say something. but be that as it may, look at it this way, by february of year

isis this seized fallujah and ramadi. now that's something a terrorist organization not normally capable of doing. it's that kind of action that's happened then and since that's given rise to people saying isis is something we've never seen before, a terrorist army that can seize and control territory. the facts on the ground, they were in the newspapers. if you had no intelligence reports, would have informed the president that something new and different was happening on the ground in syria and in iraq. so i think a little of this word games about, you know, whether they underestimated or overestimated it, the facts were there, plain to see that something new, different and menacing was in iraq and doing things that terrorist organizations aren't normally capable of. it was as plain as day. >> it is shocking to see the commander in chief not take responsibility? one of my favorite sayings in life i got from you. winners take responsibility. losers blame others. not calling president obama a

loser, but this is an opportunity for him to take responsibility. was it not? >> well, it was, and he doesn't like to say he was wrong. i think he's loathe to believe it himself because so much of his foreign policy is based on the idea that the presence of the american military forces in different places in the world is a destabilizing and a destructive factor. and he believes, i'm sure, that the sooner we get out of these places, the better off everyone's going to be. it hasn't worked out that way in place after place, and i think it's hard for him to face that. one more thing. when we're talking about this question of the iraqi security force, there are a number of reports now that i've seen that are saying that when they began to deteriorate and rapidly when the u.s. pulled out all of our forces, that our forces were there, and among the things they did was kept an eye on the iraqi security forces and on their leaders and that the iraqi security forces were indeed

during the period of time a competent fighting force. they began to deteriorate after we left and after maliki started to turn it into kind of a patronage army and a place for his favorite shiites to hold offices and collect money. and it's a corrupt force now. and i think it's weak and what we're seeing tonight in the outskirts of baghdad is further proof of that. >> wow, brit, thank you. >> you bet. >> up next, why is a college letting a convicted cop killer give a commencement address? we'll hear directly from the college and from that police officer's widow right here live next. take a closer look at your fidelity green line and u'll see just how much it has to offer, especially if you're thinking of moving an old 401(k) to a fidelity ira. it gives you a widrange of investment options... and the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals -- and what you're really investing for. tap into the full power of your fidelity green line.

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controversy on a college campus after students select a convicted cop killer as their graduation speaker. mumia abu jamal has been serving time for the murder of officer daniel faulkner. we'll hear from his widow. but first trace reports from our west coast news room. >> it was during a traffic stop in december of '9 is, daniel faulkner was shot in the back by cook now known as mumia abu jamal. as the officer lied wounded abu jamal walked over to faulkner and fired four shots point blank. abu jamal was arrested wearing a shoulder holster, the weapon with five spent cartridges was

by his side. he was convicted by a jury of ten whites and two blacks, the same jury sentenced him to death. abu jamal became one of the world's most famous death row inmates with supporters claiming he was innocent. the court of appeals and the u.s. supreme court begged to differ up holding his conviction though his death sentence was eventually vacated because the jury was improperly instructed. he now is spending the rest of his life in prison. >> trace, thank you. joining us now maureen faulkner, whose husband daniel was just 25 when he was shot repeatedly at close range by mumia. and a goddard graduate but we begin with maureen. your reaction to this invitation? >> megyn, i am just absolutely outraged that they would have such a hate-filled murderer on as a commencement speaker. i mean, this man, he murdered my

husband with malice and premeditation. he is evil. what does he have to offer on any commencement of any kind of enrichment? >> i'll tell you what the school says. the school says he's an award winning journalist who chronicles the human condition. then they mention that he was a resident of death row for 29 years before being moved into gen pop. but he hosts the nationally syndicated prison radio show and his murder trial has been the sunl of great debate. maureen. >> well, all i can say is he is a murderer and he should not -- he lost his voice when he put a bullet between my husband's eyes. and i still do not understand this justice system and why they are allowing him to speak. they are saying it's his constitutional right? and from what i understand the justice department is actually

in pennsylvania, the doj in pennsylvania are saying they are so sorry that, you know, this college is allowing him to speak. why doesn't the justice system say he's not able to speak? >> these graduates want to celebrate their commencement from college by listening to a man who killed -- who gunned down your 25-year-old husband like an animal. >> not to mention that he graduated from that college in 1996 and got his bachelor's degree. mumia abu jamal did. >> did daniel ever graduate from college? >> my husband was in community college. he was getting ready to graduate with his bachelor's degree when mumia put a bullet into his back and then between his eyes. but does anyone talk about that? no. >> unbelievable, maureen. >> this is what's wrong with our so it, megyn, you know, there's a saying and it says all that is

necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. and that's why we must speak out on our discontent on this murderer speaking at this commencement. >> understood. maureen faulkner, thank you, ma'am. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in dustin buyerly who is with goddard college and helps as a liaison with the students. your reaction? can you understand how she feels? >> thanks for having me on the show. yes, i spoke with ms. faulkner this morning and we had a polite dialogue and talked about this for quite a while. what i would say is that goddard colle college's approach to education is always started with an individual. we have an individualized approach to education so when a student comes to the college we ask them what they're interested in, what they want to study and we help them -- >> all right, all right, all right. i get it. i realize it's a strange institution. they promote radicalism. they say every graduate is a

valedictorian. that's right off the -- it's one of those places. you heard what she said. this man who you guys are having on your college voice as your commencement speaker put a bullet in between the eyes of a police officer. >> i understand your point, and it's a valid point. our graduating students had decided that they wanted mumia to be their commencement speaker at this graduation. it's the college's policy -- >> why? >> because that's our policy as a college that advocates for complicated dialogue around complex issues. >> what dialogue is there going to be? who is going to represent maureen's side? >> the dialogue is taking place right now. it's been taking place all day, all across the country. >> where else besides fox news? >> i've been fielding requests all day from the press and i've been talking about people all day on both sides of the fence and the issues of race and race relations. >> it's not about race relations, it's about cop killing. he was sentenced to death, he

got off death row on a technicality, about whether he should have this type of pulpit to talk about resolution, in another speech he gave recently, how he believes yet again that the police -- let me get it, white juries are still sending blacks to prison and cops are still treating black life as a cheap commodity. he's the one who treated life as a cheap commodity. he is. >> that may be your opinion. >> including the jury and the supreme court! >> there are people on both sides. obviously there are supporters and detractors. it's not my position nor the college's position to take a side either way. >> take a side? the law has spoken. the jury has spoken. the supreme court has spoken. >> and that doesn't remove the students' right to select their own commencement speaker and hear what he has to say. >> no one is arguing the right. i'm looking for the reason. >> the reason is that the graduating students believe that mumia has a message coming from prison from a unique perspective and speaks to issues that are

important to them that are important in a world where we have ferguson, where we have police brutality and in their lives. >> dustin, i appreciate you coming on. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much, megyn. >> up next, ebola in america. i love having a free checked bag. with my united mileageplus explorer card. i have saved $75 in checked bag fees. priority boarding is really important to us. you can just get on the plane and relax. i love to travel, no foreign transaction fees means real savings. we can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the us. when i spend money on this card

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breaking tonight, the centers for disease control and prevention confirming today that dallas, texas, has the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the united states. fox news' john roberts just filed this report. >> megyn, this is both what public health officials had expected and feared. it has finally come to pass. a liberian national visiting family here in the united states boarded a plane in liberia in september. he was infected with the ebola virus. he arrived here on the 20th,

thankfully not showing any symptoms at the time, which public health officials say bodes well for those on board the aircraft with him. if a patient is not symptomatic it's highly unlikely they'll transmit to it somebody else. >> we make sure we find the contacts and identify them and trace them every day for 21 days and if they develop a fever, they're immediately isolated. >> how bad could this cross-contamination possibly get in take a look at the case of patrick sawyer, an american liberian who went from monrovia to lagos, nigeria, he died a couple days after he arrived from ebola. 19 other people were infected before they finally got a lid on that. nigeria has pretty strict protocols but not as strict in the united states. that has public health officials here including those at the cdc believing they can quickly control this and if there are any other cases of ebola, and they say there could well be,

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twitter is going nuts about mumia as commencement speaker. what's next, charles manson? let me know what you think. tomorrow is a very special day. my nanna turns 99. happy birthday, nan. love you. see you tomorrow, 9:00. welcome to "hannity" tonight, the cdc has confirmed that the first case of ebola has been diagnosed right here in the united states. john roberts is standing by at the cdc in atlanta with the breaks details tonight. >> certainly this case will raise a lot of questions as to whether the public health screenings procedures that are in place are stringent enough to prevent somebody from getting on an aircraft in one of the west african nations and ending up here in the united states. we know this is a liberian national who was coming to dallas, texas, to visit family here. he traveled out of the country on the 19th, arrived in the united states on the 20th. did not show symptoms of ebola until the 24th, which is good