it came in for a landing and did quite well. we are going on the radio with brian because it is wednesday and that is usually our therapy session together. martha: i will see you tonight on o'reilly. have a good day. >> there are the growing concerns about the spread of al-asiri at the center for disease control confirms the first o in the case of this disease that has been diagnosed in this country. hello, everyone, welcome to "happening now." the patient travele travel froma to texas but he showed no symptoms of the disease when he got on the plane from west africa. that all change this past weekend when he was rushed to a dallas hospital two days after being sent home from there with a prescription for antibiotics.

reporter: shannon, good morning to you. we hope you an update on his condition in a couple of hours. at the very least if not earlier than that. we are told he is a very, very sick. there is some good news in all of this. they have been testing people who came in contact with this fellow after he arrived in the united states in the way to the hospital and asked the hospital. three ambulance attendants who transported him have tested negative for the virus and so far the state health services is telling us no one else has tested positive. there are no other cases in dallas at the time. that is not to say there won't be in the future because between the 24 when he first became sick and started showing symptoms in the 20th when he went to the hospital and in the hospital can

contact with a number of people. the center for disease control doesn't believe people who traveled with him on aircraft are at risk because he was a symptomatic. after the onset of symptoms they are looking at everyone who he came in contact with. let's take a listen. >> the stopwatch begins on the 24th. the really important thing is to make sure we identify every possible contact from that moment on and trace down very carefully. >> there is one little problem here with the progression of events from when he got sick the time he went to the hospital. he went to the same hospital on the 26 complained he was six, he was looked at and was released. i asked the head of the national institute about whether the ball was dropped. here's what he told me. >> it is unfortunate, and i hope this now raises the awareness

throughout the country with the attention this case is getting that when someone comes into an emergency facility or a clinic and complains of symptoms that are compatible, you have to do a travel history. >> what is unfortunate is between the 26 and the 28th when he was taken to the hospital, he could have come in contact with a number of other people. now the context crazy has to take place to find out how many people he was in contact with and how many people those he contacted may have been in contact with. rick perry will have a news conference at the hospital. shannon: thank you. eric: shannon, the head of the cdc is stopping it in its tracks in this country. are they, can they? senior managing editor and a member of the fox news medical a team. should we be worried about this

or is it in nefarious claim? >> they will have it contained. thethey have the infrastructureo stop it, but i think we have to be aware that this is going to be sort of a problem in the future again because this is not going to be the last patient. we're still waiting to see what happens with members of the family. and only amblin strivers and people who saw him the first time are all quarantined, so we could see a case or to popping up in the next couple of weeks. eric: why would they be quarantined? can you get it through saliva, kissing? >> if somebody is infectious, any bodily liquids, saliva, blood, urine, really could infect you. the issue is a strategic mistake made. for we spent talked about ebola

may be coming,'s a lot of emergency rooms around the country knew if you had a patient to suspect came from that region and had any signs of symptoms of any kind of flulike or infection, that person should have been quarantined then and there. that is a strategic mistake that was made, that is why the patient came to the hospital given antibiotics, things got really bad two days later he was isolated. this is a wake-up call. number one we kind of have to think differently how we are going to allow immigration to come to this region. if you look at the airlines in europe, they stop flying to west africa. we should at least create a different portfolio for screening if a patient is coming to america we should have more information.

eric: what if they say no? >> from the free reports i got, there was some connection with him being in the health care system. that is a risk factor. we have to do a better job. you have to have more accountability because in west africa things are out of control. eric: what are the symptoms, what should we be concerned about? >> for us there is not an emergency because this person is isolated, they will find all the contacts he had. shannoneric: they say they don't to have social effects. >> this is why the cdc has to continue to do a better job in being transparent to say how big is a problem, what are they doing it with africa?

we get number 3000 people have died, 10,000 people are infected, we get statistics if this is not controlled we could get millions of people in west africa. we have to do a better job telling the world what is happening in west africa, what are they doing with the money spent and now that people are getting more informed. eric: thank you very much. shannon: writes now the accused white house fence jumper going up for a federal judge as we learn about another embarrassing and potentially dangerous secret service security lapse involving president obama. mike emanuel live in washington. >> the if that was three days before the fence jumping incident when president obama was visiting the center for disease control in atlanta. during the visit the president

was on an elevator with an armed security guard who has a criminal record. that violates secret service protocol. the background was only discovered because he wouldn't stop taking cell phone video of the president drawing attention to himself and then he was checked out. now the latest threat level revelations, it is time for secret service director julia pierson to go. >> i knew about the incident, but it was not yet in the public. i don't think she was candid and honest. it is time she be fired by the president of the united states or she resign. she did not tell the president of the da united states a three-time convict with a gun was in an elevator with the president. >> meanwhile the fence jumper will be in court today. indicted on federal and local charges and is scheduled to appear at u.s. district court in

washington. charged with unlawfully entering every street a building while carrying a deadly weapon, a knife, which is a federal charge. also to violations of washington, d.c., law carrying a dangerous weapon outside of home and unlawful carrying of ammunition. a variety of agencies including secret service had previous interactions with gonzalez suspected of suffering from ptsd before the white house incident. shannon: thank you so much. eric: alley were against the red reticle isis. as the u.s. and coalition .0 in on those positions. iraqi troops moving up from the south. the brutality of the groups still fears of a possible massacre in a town on the

turkish border said to be surrounded by those isis fighters. more with the very latest. >> not surprisingly airstrikes so far seem to be more effective in iraq rather than syria. u.s. is correlating this air campaign with kurdish fighters in iraq where there is a stronger military operation as opposed to syria where there isn't a working military they can coordinate with. insurgents have been driven from the border town the last 24 hours in this joint effort, and they are under pressure in several other iraqi villages but so far us-led air campaign has knocked them off their feet, progress seems to be very small and instrumental. on the move with fighters

advancing in sight of the turkish borders. they say they're taking control of more than 300 villages outside of this large kurdish town ascending tens of thousands of refugees fleeing. turkey appears ready to join the militant coalition. their work in a proposal to use turkish territory and airspace across operations, but turkish leaders still very much see the syrian president is a great threat, attacking isis they're going to be helping assad grow stronger. a point of view they are trying to change. a real concern without putting pressure from the northern part, isis is going to be able to run rampant in syria and iraq. turkey is crucial to this. eric: we will have more analysis

on if they can really step it up. live in jerusalem, thank you. shannon: an amazing story of survival. a woman found alive after being kidnapped and shoved into the trunk of her car. what she is now saying about her terrifying ordeal. sus ramps up, why the obama administration struggles with a message and problem to a key enemy in syria. and do you think u.s. flights should have been banned after the ebola outbreak? go to foxnews.com/happening now and click on america's asking to go to the conversation. ♪

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ambush last month. he has been on the run for more than two weeks now and with the continuinensnaring manhunt. she saw inside the trunk of her car alive. she told police she was abducted outside of a convenience store and cannot remember how she got inside but they say her condition is improving as police tcontinue to investigate. a judge in colorado will not allow cameras inside the trial of james homes. she is a shooting rampage in a colorado movie theater. the trial is affected to begin in november. shannon: the obama administration going back and forth over how close leadership is. the other terrorist u.s. airstrikes in syria. e conflicting languages raising doubts about the administration. claims core al qaeda has been

decimated. >> i said it is an example of an affiliated group of fighters with ties for al qaeda but not a part of al qaeda. so that is how you are reconciling the two. >> that is our position on al qaeda and khorasan. shannon: both fox news contributor rich, let me start by as he because there has been so much back and forth. after-hours clarifications, how important is it the administration get on the same page with this language which mark >> they're trying to invest enormous amount of distinction without a difference. al qaeda fighters heading to syria as part of al qaeda. very easy to understand.

the administration invested in this idea of core al qaeda. the philosophy has been as long as you are droning them in pakistan although al qaeda is decimated and the early part of al qaeda that matters is devastated so does not matter their stride in iraq, stronger in syria, stronger in libya, stronger elsewhere, that is just proven wrong but the administration is still invested in that idea. shannon: now we are talking but all the different explanations. just the fact there is so much back-and-forth clarification, that can't be good for the administration trying to have the message. >> it is not good. the facts are al qaeda did get usama bin laden and two-thirds of the leadership. when you chop off the head of the octopus, the tentacles are still out there, they are all connected in one way or another

to what al qaeda was before they destroyed, captured or killed two-thirds of the leadership. the president has said these are veteran al qaeda members, veterans of al qaeda. this group happens to be in syria. the one thing going on here, these groups are actually competing with each other. competing to claim it is the new head of the obstacle. to call all these that there is a core al qaeda still centrally running all these groups doesn't exist anymore the way it did in the past. shannon: they have branched off to create competing organizations, we shouldn't be so concerned about the

semantics. >> hopefully it is a cement's game because he sent core operatives to syria because syria is a really great safe haven in part because the administration had a policy letting it become a hornets nest and not influence events. they want to try to save president obama's vote that their decimated by arguing basically only al qaeda and pakistan mattered. that is absurd. this is al qaeda operatives representing the administration's own reckoning an imminent threat to the west. that is not a group decimated on the run or on the path to defeat. >> they are on the run, they were attacked airstrikes in syria, headquarters taken note. it is about going after each of these separate groups, there are

other groups that are not as disconnected in the way that they were in the days of usama bin laden. >> he never would have thought we would see bombing al qaeda and other countries representing an imminent threat to the west. that is not the understanding of decimated and on the run and on the verge of defeat. >> he said two-thirds of al qaeda. it was. shannon: we have to leave it there. thank you both. eric: robbing a 7-eleven with an ak-47. will tell you where this happen and what else police are saying about it. u.s. airstrikes hitting their mark. learning of some holes in intelligence making it harder to know if the strikes are really effective. are we killing the terrorist or hitting empty buildings?

shannon: cops of the dauphin looking for three men who struck up a convenience store, one of them armed with an ak-47. it happened at a 7-eleven. three masked men stormed the place armed including one with ak-47. the greats need is nobody was hurt but they got away with a load of cash. anybody who knows anything call the tip line. eric: we're told curtis tutor making gains in iraq taking control of the town. helped in part by american and coalition warplanes. they are also apparently hitting

some empty buildings. that as they adjust their movements to stay a step ahead of us. the town near the turkish border, raising fears of a possible looming massacre. so is our lack of intelligence on the ground creating gaps that hurt the war against the islamic radicals? you know, rick. back in a 28 president putin ordered those cruise missiles to kill usama bin laden instead hit the aspen factory. have those mistakes been repeated now? >> when the president puts limitations on the military, you are going to have some bad outcomes. we all can agree precision targeting, precision airstrikes is much better than random airstrikes. if you just look at what precision targets gets us, it is

less civilian casualties and less unintended consequences. so what you really want to do is have precision targeting and precision airstrikes with precision intelligence, that is the only way you can get this specifics. need timely intelligence. you will get that by having somebody on the ground giving it to you and presumably they will be wearing shoes or sandals or boots. you go back to the u.n., president obama's speech he was very clear, what he said specifically was isis and extremists only understand force. he said this is the only way to deal with them is to take them out. they only no force. why aren't you using the colin powell doctrine to say use

overwhelming force and wipe them out. you can't deal with somebody willing to cut your head off if they don't get their way. i know it doesn't sound pc to say in today's world, but i fear we are going to kill them or they are going to continue to be had westerners and americans. eric: pretty strong in that speech, why did he talk that way for years ago? look at what they are saying today, it is akin to attention deficit disorder. negligence they call it. president obama's failure to attend presidential briefings has worsened. he was warned the islamic state would rise isil is it the failure to see islamic state under a rise. negligence they have begun damage control. is that fair?

>> no, i think it is on the mark. you cannot underestimate a commander in chief not reading intelligence briefings. if i would have told you in a post-9/11 world that we would have a commander in chief, a presidentt of the united states that was only going to read 60% of his intelligence briefings, you would think i was crazy. eric: they said that is not really true. >> come on, he prefers to get them on the ipad when other presidents would sit there and listen to the experts, they could ask questions. what they are really saying to us is the president of the united states is not curious about intelligence, he has no questions because he is just reading. it is a one-way information flow and i think it is really bad to have a president who thinks he knows everything about intelligence that he can read and get taking out

his ipad. it was people want to hear from the experts, they want to ask questions to say what does this mean, what kind of intelligence is this? is this written, third hand? you need to understand exactly what is on the blue sheet they call it and the only way to understand is to ask questions of the expert. eric: thank you so much, good to see you. shannon: does virginia have a serial killer? and tensions boiling over in hong kong, thousands of pro-democracy demonstrate his telling china to back off or else. we will have the very latest.

eric: right now here is a quick look what is coming ahead on "happening now." investigators are working to determine if the man car charged in the disappearance of university of virginia student hannah graham has any connection to the death after third young woman. forensics link the suspect to the 2009 killing of a virginia coed. massive fire tearing through several buildings in the boardwalk in atlantic city. where it started and how it spread so quickly. hear about michael phelps? he ended up in hot water with police and behind bars. full details coming up in a "fox

411". >> all right, this is a "fox business alert." let's take a look at the markets. checking out the dow, down about 165. down almost a percentage point. this after new reports from payroll processor adp shows private employers adding 213,000 jobs in september. that is just above analyst expectations but the numbers on manufacturing last month and construction spending in august were sort of disappointing. meantime ebay shares down slightly after big gains yesterday, following the announcement it does plan to spin off digital payments giant paypal by the end of next year. analysts say the move is in response to the competition from apple which you will remember last month introduced a new in store payment service tied to its iphone 6 model. eric: shannon, we have new information on the mounting tensions in hong kong. this as student leaders of the pro-democracy movement want the territory's top official he must step down by tomorrow. david piper is live in bangkok,

thailand with the very latest. >> reporter: hi, eric. yes, the situation in hong kong remains tense with no solution in sight. as you said protest leaders are warning they plan to intensify their act if the government county bow to their demands. 10 of thousands who have been blocking streets in hong kong have been joined by many more people off because after national holiday there. student leaders warning they will step up their action in the hong kong government doesn't bow to their demand that the city's chief executive resign. they blame him for police teargassing protesters. if not, they say they will take over government offices thursday. hong kong government has rejected their demand and has repeatedly urged protesters who continue to occupy large areas around the city to disperse. the protesters say they want talks with the government but a spokesman for the hong kong government has said a chief

executive will not step down and he added if protesters continue to insist on it, likelihood of both sides meeting will be very small. reports suggest that the government is prepared to wait out the protesters in the hope that the wider population gets frustrated by the disruption it is causing. the mass protests were launched after china recently backtracked on agreements that the territory move towards full democracy. instead beijing will effectively choose which candidates the people can vote for as chief executive. in china there have been reports of some arrests of people showing their support for the protests in hong kong. international tv reports on the subject such as this one are being blacked out in china and the crisis in hong kong is getting very little coverage domestically and social media is being heavily censored but the world is reacting. a number of major rallies are being planned to support the people in hong kong. back to you, eric. eric: david, seems democracy movement is moving ahead whether beijing likes it or not.

shannon? shannon: breaking right now, police in virginia looking to connect the dots between the man charged in the disappearance of uva student hannah graham and a third young woman. we heard there was a second one. now we're talking about three. they're trying to determine in jesse matthew, jr., may have had the hand in a murder of a 23-year-old coed in lynchburg college in 2009. this comes days after they said forensic evidence linked matthew to the 2009 killing of virginia tech coed. now police say they are worried there could be more victims. talk about with brian silver, former prosecutor. and pillar prince, a trial attorney. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> let me start with you, if this is your client how worried are you getting? >> shannon, all we know is circumstantial evidence. what his defense attorney publicly stated so far the defense has failed to give him credit evidence that links his client to these other crimes. unless he has spoken to his

client and we don't know, i would be concerned as defense attorney because the state will do everything they can to link him to these two other crimes but so far they haven't shown him anything. shannon: brian, what is interesting we're hearing there is some kind of link allegedly between this current case and the case of morgan harrington, a the case after virginia tech student a few years back. what are we talking about. dna testing and those things take a little bit of time. could there be something else, clothing or what is your best guess on the links between the two at this point? >> absolutely. it is absolutely a best guess. we don't know what cards law enforcement holds. if this guy is a serial killer could have momentos. it could be clothing. it could be jewelry. it could be a driver ace license. these items might have their own dna. for instance, if there is a used pair of women's underwear, they could certainly test that for the victim's dna. there are things that guy may have had in his house that law enforcement had, that

unequivocally, without doing a chemistry test will link him to other unsolved crimes. shannon: pilar, at this-point moving forward we don't know that is coming together, a case building. >> that's right. shannon: what are you thinking about potential jurors at this point? there is overload of news and speculation coming out right now. >> i think, shannon, getting to the jurors is probably putting the cart before the horse at this point because if i were his defense attorney, what i would want to be doing is speaking to him and finding out whether there is link or not. because again, the tate has been very quiet so far. and forensic evidence really is going to either prove or disprove a link to mr. matthew and these two other crimes. so i really wouldn't be thinking beyond finding that out right now and speaking to my client. and then if there is a link, because it's a death penalty state i would look to find out my goal. at this point would be a spare his life if there is a link. shannon: brian, before we move

to topic two, your advice, if you think your client knows something, has nor information to offer, are you think about a plea at this point? >> i tell you something. as a trial lawyer you have to make a real world assessment ever likelihood of winning. virginia is a death penalty state. remember, i'm a florida lawyer. i'm not sure about virginia, this guy is in serious danger of potentially being executed. if he can do something now to potentially mitigate that possibility, telling them where a victim's might be, helping them solve a crime, that may make a difference later on between life and death. again it's a gamble. because we don't know what evidence they have or don't have. and you know what? sometimes those are the tough decisions you got to make in the foxhole. shannon: okay. let's move on to topic two. a oregon man tried to blow up christmas gathering in downtown oregon in 2010. it was out of the headlines. he will learn his fate. the 23-year-old somali-american was convicted last year. facing up to 40 years behind

bars. he press ad button on his cell phone he thought would detonate explosive. it was phony. put together by law enforcement. there was no actual danger. he didn't know that. what do you think? prosecutors want 40 years for this guy? >> his attorney is saying he calls that to be a draconian result. points to another man convicted something similar only got 18 years. he argued entrapment, basically saying he would not likely to have pushed the button and committed this act had he not been induced to do so by law enforcement. assuming that has not panned out and jury has not accepted that defense i think 40 years still is a long time when you consider that by pushing the button, although he thought he was doing something, nobody actually was harmed. shannon: brian, quick final word to you? >> le's not forget, this guy did everything he could, and made a conscious decision to commit an act of terror, if real, as far as he knew it was real, would have resulted in mass murder. and in my personal opinion, he

absolutely shut get every year of those 40 years. i think that is exactly what this judge will do, if the judge doesn't exceed it and give him life in prison. shannon: it could send a strong message to other lone wolves who may be considering other actions. >> absolutely. shannon: great to see you. >> have a great day. shannon: eric? >> shannon, brutality of isis. beheadings, killings, rapes and killings of christians, hard enough to watch from 1000 miles away. what if an isis sympathizer lived near you? next guest says we can not underestimate the prospect of isis terrorism striking us here at home.

shannon: let's check out what is ahead on "outnumbered" at to. hour. what have you guys got coming up? >> secret service scandal growing after new details emerge about another incident, that put an armed felon inches away from

the u.s. president. lawmakers from both parties want the agency chief gone. >> new calls from capitol hill for the president to release presidential daily briefgs as he tries to blame the intel community on the rise of isis. >> popular actor reveals dark truth about hollywood. >> #oneluckyguy weighs in on that. it is a bird, it's a plane, it is superman actor, dean cain. "outnumbered" top of the hour. >> please join us. shannon: you're a poet, andrea too. >> is there anything i can not do? actually a lot of things. >> see you then. eric: could the potential for an isis terrorist attack be closer to home than we think? we've seen several accused or admitted supporters of isis right here on american soil. there is the man in rochester, new york, trying to recruit people to join isis and return to the u.s. to attack citizens here. donald ray morgan, a native of

north carolina, accused of trying to get weapons for isis. shannon conley from colorado. pled guilty to conspiracy to help radical isl terrorists. worries of many more isis sympathizer or recruits across the country, what do we do before they strike us here? peter brookes, senior fellow at heritage foundation and former assistant secretary of defense. joins us here. peter, almost is it a matter of time before there is an attack by an american jihadist? >> we've had a couple already, right, eric? we had for thehood. the boston marathon bombings. the heritage foundation has been keeping track. much there are more than 60 months taken against the homeland since 9/11. we're under constant threat. despite justice of military operations oversees or in iraq or afghanistan, these will incite passions. make people move from a

sympathizer or become a sympathizer and potentially undertake terrorists acts. we would be a fool to be complacent about the threat we face from islamist violent terrorism. eric: peter, who else could be out there? >> you know one of the things, i'm obviously working outside the government now, eric, but do we know who went to syria and iraq, may have worked with isis or al qaeda groups there or other violent islamist groups an returned to the united states? we heard a bunch of different numbers thrown out there. as many as 100. we heard 12. do we know how many returned to the united states? my sense is we really don't know. there are opportunities for those who traveled overseas to become foreign fighters. you see numbers about 12,000 foreign fighters from 80 different countries. there are people that could be radicalized right here in place. they could be radicalized by another individual that is here. they could be radicalized by internet. some of the stuff we see on

social media is very, very disturbing. i think we have threats coming from a number of different vectors. of course i forgot to mention western passport holders that may be over there that could travel to the united states or canadians. the canadians did a government study that talked about the fact they had a number of people that went to fight with jihadist organizations overseas not just in syria and iraq but other places. we have to be very, very cautious. we can't be complacent and we have to be proactive about the potential of this threat. eric: keep our guard up. make sure it doesn't happen here. peter brookes, thank you very much. >> thank you. shannon: more trouble for michael phelps. we're learning new details how the gold medalist was spending time in hours leading up to the latest run-in with police.

eric: there are new details to tell you about michael phelps second dui arrest of the first time was back in 2004. now the olympic athlete was busted in baltimore early yesterday morning after a night of gambling. julie banderas joins us live with the fox 411. hey, julie. >> bad boy. michael phelps not winning any medals from maryland police. the olympic swimmer just wrapped up eight-hour night of gambling at baltimore aquino. the cops awarded him a dui he said in private d gambling room, drinking beer, playing blackjack for hours. he left the casino and 40 minutes later he was pulled a few miles over from the casino. he was speeding at4 miles an hour in a 45 mile-an-hour zone and seen crossing double lane lines. one of maryland transportation

authority police officer pulled him over and perform ad series of field sobriety tests which phelps failed including the breathalyzer. "tmz" reports that he blew twice the legal limit. he was a big fan of gambling. reportedly at same casino playing poker. no poker face on twitter guys, where he apologized saying this, earlier this morning i was eggerred and charged with dui, excessive speeding and crossing double lane lines. i understand the severity of my actions and take full responsibility. i know these words may not mean much right now but i am deeply sorry to everyone i have let down. at 29 years old, this is michael's second dui arrest in maryland. back in 2004 when he was 19 years old he pled guilty and served 18 months probation as part after plea deal and apparently has not learned his lesson yet. eric: apologizing taking responsibility. >> first step. shannon: thanks, julie. brand new stories we're working

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shannon: huge fire breaking out just off the boardwalk in atlantic city damaging several buildings including homes. the fire sparked late last night. it is still smoldering. firefighters say it started in a consignment shop but high wind forced it to spread to other buildings, housing, businesses and other apartments. 10 adults and children had to be evacuated. they're helped by the red cross. the good news? nobody seriously injured. eric: they're having problems especially with casinos closing. >> they need good news. eric: see you back in one hour.

right nowout "outnumbered" stars right now. >> this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith here today is harris faulkner, andrea tantaros, kennedy, and today's #oneluckyguy, actor, host of masters of illusions, and tv's superman, dean cain. he is "outnumbered." welcome to the couch. >> happily "outnumbered" and i have my pink for breast cancer awareness month. >> very nice. >> i went so far to go there. >> you have a pink s on your -- >> we'll talk about that. >> are you wondering, i know. you're bad, kennedy. >> i'm very excited. >> thanks for spending time on the couch. excited to have you back. >> did so well we brought him back for a second time. >> this will be it. >> oh, wow. >> don't say that. >> that is breaking news. >> forecast of madness. i can't wait. >> come on. let's jump right into it. new concerns about the