right now. >> this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith here today is harris faulkner, andrea tantaros, kennedy, and today's #oneluckyguy, actor, host of masters of illusions, and tv's superman, dean cain. he is "outnumbered." welcome to the couch. >> happily "outnumbered" and i have my pink for breast cancer awareness month. >> very nice. >> i went so far to go there. >> you have a pink s on your -- >> we'll talk about that. >> are you wondering, i know. you're bad, kennedy. >> i'm very excited. >> thanks for spending time on the couch. excited to have you back. >> did so well we brought him back for a second time. >> this will be it. >> oh, wow. >> don't say that. >> that is breaking news. >> forecast of madness. i can't wait. >> come on. let's jump right into it. new concerns about the

president's after we learned that the fence jumper who got deep inside of the white house may be just one of many serious security breaches. latest? sources confirming for fox news when president obama visited the centers for disease control in atlanta just a couple weeks ago, a security guard, with a gun, and a criminal record, rode the elevator with the president. major breach of secret service protocol. and get this. the president was never even briefed on the incident. the new details pouring in as the head of secret service, julia pierson got an earful from law makers yesterday. now lawmakers from both parties are calling for her to go. including congressman jason chaffetz who says, an internal secret service report reveals more than 1,000 security lapses. here he is on "the kelly file." >> i think it is time that she be fired by the president of the united states, or that she resign. she either did not, did not either, did not tell the

president of the united states that a three-time convict, with a gun, was on, was in an elevator with the president. >> congressman elijah cummings, democratic ranking member on house oversight committee also suggesting that pierson should go. joining chairman issa is calling for a special investigation. all right, this is, for me, andrea, one of those really? is this really happening moments? the president of the united states of america, got into an elevator with an armed convict. >> yeah, well, remember this isn't the first time, sandra, that he has been in close proximity with someone with questionable background, right? at nelson mandela guy, sign language guy, doing shaky sign language, feet away. that should have been a red tag. i know i will take a lot of heat from this. he was under fire from liberal groups not having enough women in his administration. can't let a crisis go to waste. got to score political points.

what did he do? he appoint ad woman, who probably looking at her background wasn't the best person for the job. she didn't have experience. glorified hr director. was not equipped to fill that role. to appease women voters and fill a quota, he put her in charge of this department. and frankly she wasn't qualified from day one and she is proving now after this string of security breaches that she is not qualified. >> what boggles people even further, that there was no suspicions raised in the elevator until the armed security man, who has the criminal record, started taking video of the president and didn't stop at which point the secret service finally saw a red flag that something was going on. >> that is usually a good indicator. dude, stop filming president. i'm right here. i don't always agree with representative elijah cummings but here i think he is right. i think he is absolutely correct. i think the way that dennis allen was recently fired from the raiders. you have to clean house sometimes. there was a problem. >> cleaning house, to andrea's

house was supposed to be julia pierson. >> that is certainly not the case. i know guys would be really well-qualified to take over that position. i promise you nobody getting over the white house fence making it to the white house. that is problem that need to be fixed. >> harris, this happened a few days before the fence jumper made it over the white house fence into the white house. >> my big question overall why the question hasn't fired and replaced. so i did research. "usa today" couple years ago did this analysis. job security rate among federal workers, these would be government workers we're talking about 99.43%. 100% for those on the job for a few years. the study found death, rather than poor performance, misconduct or layoffs was the primary threat to job security at many government agencies. so if we're waiting for heads to roll, whether it will be julia pierson doing firing, president, whatever, boy, those are tough statistics you will have to go against. you will have to break news and break ground to fire some

security agents. >> i don't know why anybody is surprised the president isn't getting secret service briefings. not even taking intel briefings. government accountability office says he is accepting 41.3% of his daily presidential briefings. julia pierson is one of number of women the president throws under the bus or kathleen sebelius or susan rice or hillary clinton. you knew james clapper wasn't going to go. he tried doing that on "60 minutes." tried to, clapper by the way, ignore ramis. he is not popular. people tie him to edward snowden and nsa and lying to ron wyden under oath. clapper will keep his job. julia pierson will not survive next week. >> reflection on him. he is too arrogant to let anybody go because he made a poor choice after the prostitution scandal. >> and the dutch drinking scandal. >> andrea, you and i talked about this before you're not doing any group, women, people of color, no one, any favors if

you hire people not right for the job. >> bingo. >> you don't do people favors by doing that. >> we're seeing that example, harris. great point. >> set people up for failure. >> mixed messages from the obama administration on terrorists we're fighting in syria, more specifically the khorasan group and whether it is the same as al qaeda. the state department pulling out a statement, saying quote, the khorasan group is term sometimes referred to al nusra front and al qaeda core violent extremist who is share a history of training operatives facilitating fighters and money and planning attacks against the u.s. and western targets. one day later state department spokeswoman general saki reversed that statement. -- jen psaki. >> we've been increasing i concerned about the increase of al qaeda affiliates in other parts of the world in yemen, somalia and iraq. khorasan group is certainly example of that. i said it is an example of affiliated group of fighters, a group that has ties to core

al qaeda but not a part of core al qaeda. >> what is she hiding? >> dean, is that believable? cora sawn group is part of al qaeda. administration is parsing words. they're all over the place. why can't they come out and say it is al qaeda? >> i have no idea. i watch the news all the time and i'm confused who they are. this is message problem. they want to protect the we have al qaeda on the run statements. it is politics. >> decimated. >> but they were but now they're not. >> mushroom cloud, kennedy. cap of the mushroom. >> magic mushrooms. it is stems, a twig, is it metastasized or marinated meatball. >> i'm fine. problem with al qaeda, al qaeda doesn't know if they're al qaeda. there is an assertion within security analyst who is say, perhaps al qaeda is more of an idea? like the mafia. you know, we're used to these convenient, clearly-demarcated groups. it is very easy in the middle east to switch from al nusra to isis.

maybe moderate syrian rebel for a little while. then you go back to maybe al qaeda in the arabian peninsula if you want to relocate. the problem there are not clear lines. they would be great for us but -- >> andrea, they have the same goal all of these groups which the administration doesn't want -- >> exactly. they're a threat to the west. >> dean made the best.f they say this is al qaeda, that means that the election campaign, how barack obama got reelected, al qaeda is decimated like you said, was based on a lie. so they can't say that. >> so you will have to help me out with this a little bit. the difference is egoinggraphy. when they talk about core al qaeda, those al qaeda fighters fighting in afghanistan and pakistan. >> according to susan rice. >> but the khorasan group is fighting in syria. this is different from core al qaeda, is that how they're differentiating it? >> that is how they're differentiating it exactly. >> a little bit of homework for people that want to drill down.

>> please. >> i bret baier, "the weekly standard" tom joseclyn done research on the group khorasan. there are three key reasons if you look at key facts khorasan is absolutely core al qaeda. first of all geographically it is not just about pakistan or afghanistan. we have documentation we've seen, usama bin laden was shipping his people out because we were hitting north pakistan with drones. so he was moving his people all over the globe to get them out of there. they have the money apparent to do it, right? that's number one. number two, the guy who is leading this group khorasan, and there is some argument whether or not he has been taken out recently, we don't have confirmation of any of that, but is this guy who knew about 9/11 ahead of 9/11 happening which means weighs very close to usama bin laden. third fact, one of his co-leaders of khorasan is the third cousin of usama bin laden. these guys, i mean if you just line up the facts it is hard to get away from core al qaeda.

why does that matter? call died wants to hit us here at home. >> doesn't it trouble you the threat has changed. it changed in a way you don't have to be a part of al qaeda in a cave like 9/11 days. you can be radicalized behind a desktop or laptop. you can wear al qaeda jersey from anywhere in the world. >> can be from moore, oklahoma. >> i weighs going to say that. >> fired from a food processing plant and commit your own acts of terror. >> what do you want to call yourself? i'm al qaeda, khorasan, the name isn't important. they are islamic extremist, and they need to be met. >> you bring up a good point. the department of justice will look into the oklahoma beheading case. don't know if they look into it as a workplace violence type thing but -- >> isn't that what dhs and fbi were warning us about, the lone wolf attacks? what is the difference. when while we call things terrorism. >> they're busy in ferguson so you know. first time the cdc is confirming an ebola diagnosis

here in the united states but could others be infected? is enough being done to prevent a potential outyaich here at home -- outbreak here at home? ladies, get this, if you're 29 years old. at least one actor john cusack says. >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> come on. that is how he things. he calls tinseltown a whole, whorehouse. catch more from the couch on the webb. "outnumbered overtime," foxnews.com slash outnumbered. click on the overtime tab and send your questions to dean cain. something tells me there will be a lot of them. ♪ will that be all, sir?

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lot of information. we're told the patient from liberia is in serious condition at the hospital. yesterday an firm from the hospital said when he came in, this was on sunday, that he was able to talk and had been asking for food. but we hear that perhaps that this virus is putting awful lot of stress on some of his organ symptoms and causing them some trouble. that would be not unusual for a patient stricken with this dreaded virus. we're learning a little more how this fellow got into the country. there are to direct flights between the united states and monrovia, liberia. delta was flying there but canceled all flights because of economic reasons end of last month. we're learning the patient most likely flew from africa to some city in europe and from there to the united states. might have landed at dulles airport. from that point of embarcation to dallas. we don't yet have the airlines. we're still working on that. but more information is starting to come out. but here is the issue with the airline. centers for disease control says

they don't believe they need to retrace the contacts that this patient may have had on the airplanes because he was asymptomatic at the time. what they're focusing on are the people that he had contact with, close contact between the 24th of september and now, which would have been the time he was symptommic. we understand there may be at many as 12 to 18 people, some close family members. the people who brought him to the hospital in an ambulance on the 28th, those three people, thankfully tested negative for the virus but the texas department of health and dallas county health and human services department are very closely monitoring those people and they will be watched for 21 days which is or the of the outside window of potential infection. one little lapse is pretty concerning, harris. this fellow went to the same hospital, texas health presbyterian north part of dallas. on 26th. was checked out. given antibiotics and then released. i talked with dr. anthony fauci with the national institutes of

infectious disease shook his head over that. first thing you do somebody shows up with the symptoms, have you traveled recently and where did you travel from? hopes this is a very big red flag that anytime anybody comes into an emergency department in the future, that is one of the first questions that they're asked, harris. >> john roberts, thank you very much. let's get in here. we have a couple of nuggets from john's reporting, kennedy. i want to get your thoughts. he is is saying took an end round into the united states. once he got here. we have couple options. we can stop flights from that the past world, liberia and sierra leone where the outbreak is in full force. we can quarantine people for 21 days. what do we have the stomach to do in this country. >> i don't think we can create panic and his tear yay. i think is more dangerous from ebola. i spoke to ceo of a company, creating a drug for ebola by end. year.

they said, you will have to let a couple people in this country who have ebola. that is the way it is. it es going to happen. >> it is already happening. >> because we have the technology. we have the competition. we have the resources. those are things they simply don't have in west africa. they can not compete with the virus over there the way we can here. when you have, there are at least four companies working simultaneously against each other in competition, is ebola's enemy right now. they are going to work on vaccines and cures. you will see that happen quicker in this country. hysteria is a bad idea. >> all right. dean, you've got two things going on here. you don't want to panic people. if you're on the flight, come on, the cdc isn't going to trace the path of the passengers who came in contact with this man in texas? wouldn't you want to know if you were on the plane with him? >> i would. they say you have to be showing symptoms before you are infectious. i wouldn't be as worried about it. when i checked in here today, there was a woman from west africa who checked me in and i made a comment being here

instead, you know what? i'm not even worried about that at all. >> but she is here. >> she is here. she wayne worried about it when she was there. i think we'll handle it. >> bottom line, there was a very strategic mistake that was made as dr. manny alvarez pointed out from fox news medical a-team last hour. these hospitals in the united states have been prepped for months, harris. they have been warned if someone comes from traveling in some of these countries or come directly from those countries and have symptoms of ebola, quarantine them. they let this man go. >> yeah. >> number one -- >> that is a huge deal, sandra. >> let it go again on september 26th when went to the hospital. apparently they don't have signs up at hospitals. should all over the country. >> we don't know hoe was in contact with during the days he was showing symptoms of ebola. >> family members. >> i think we're, yes, more equipped, better equipped than africa to handle this. i don't think we're equipped to handle this. harris, imagine 10 people

infected. 10 people infected could shut down entire hospital. what happens when people stop showing up for work or take out waste management? i don't think we're as prepared we think we are to handle this. the government can't even build a website for half a billion dollars. i do have doubts and questions. >> private companies will be the answer to the solution. it will not be the government. we have work in concert with the cdc. >> there are years before they check the drugs. >> that is the no true. >> look with zmapp and other companies get same kinds of waivers. >> i'm sure they're optimistic. >> we have to move on. two points in here. the wash upon post headline this week, liberia, western nation, hardest hit by ebola, has begun a frightening descent into economic hello hell. big questions about ripple effects from that participate of the world. >> did they shut down flights, finally? >> governor rick perry of texas will hold a news conference.

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♪ >> new fallout for president obama after he blamed u.s. intelligence for missing the rise of isis. senator lindsey graham now wants the president to do what his

predecessor, president george w. bush did after 9/11 and release his presidential daily briefings or pdbs for short so haw makers can judge whether it was policy failure not to take on isis sooner or intel failure. the republican saying in a letter to president, quote, given scope of threat isis poses we don't have luxury waiting until after the terrorist attack to examine our intelligence failures. as such i ask you make your pdbs from the past, 18 months, to the appropriate committees of congress to review. okay, president obama promised the ultimate transparency. you're on a show called "masters of illusion." >> yes. >> it could be applied to the white house, many times the president is up to speed on things and keyed in but we saw the months leading up to benghazi and again he is not attending these meetings as much as he should or reading briefings. is it important to see what is in the briefings that he missed? >> if i were the president i would be there every day.

that is something i think of paramount importance. you know what? this administration would have won "masters of illusion" if it was a competition. they have not been transparent at all. sometimes you see people say least transparent. tough on the white house press corps, the whole thing. i think this is the tile to release your pdbs if that is the case and be transparent. >> sandra, we've seen it before, stonewalling with certain documents. "fast & furious" they invoked executive privilege. they're probably going to be reluctant to release documents because if the cia is right, remember the president through them under the bus, intelligence committee, i bet there is pretty damning about the rise of isis. >> what i'm concerned none of this will change the past and none of this will change that isis did rise and isis strengthened and power by our lack of response. nobody can doubt. that the environment we're now in, we have the president blaming the intelligence

community and the intelligence community saying, no, we have been warning you. that starts to be a really ugly environment i think just makes us overall look weak as a country, andrea. >> did the president think the intelligence community would go along with this narrative? normally i don't agree a lot with lindsey graham. he is a little too hawkish for my taste. agree with you. considering international climate he should be briefed every day, not just reading on the ipad. i think back and forth is incredibly important. if they were so transparent he would have already released them. they will not do that. they don't even honor freedom of information requests from the press until they're sued. of course they will not show how completely wrong on this issue and puts the country at peril. by the way, where is the next isis? that is what worries me. let's not miss something while talking about -- >> the narrative that al qaeda has been decimated and he took care of bin laden, that election slogan based on a lie. >> it is problematic for the

narrative but i think what dean hit on, transparency really key. what i have in my hands right now, president bush on saturday, april 10th, 2004, released for very first time publicly one of his briefings. and the reason he did it, he said, i'm giving page 1/2 section of the president's daily brief from august 6th, 2001, headline, bin laden determined to strike to the u.s. what he knew and didn't know. so many critics said you knew everything. so he released this page. you notice there is not a whole lot of it redacted. wouldn't be the first. there is precedent for this. i'm seeing on twitter, oh that would never happen. yeah it would happen. a leader would make the decision to do that especially if he was planning to blame as president obama has the very people in charge of keep informed. >> you know who always went to his pdbs? george h.w. bush because he was head of cia and intelligence was

very important. >> documents may leak on their own. >> and highlighted with sharpie. illegal immigrants crossing the u.s. border will get attorneys thanks to your u.s. tax dollars. $9 million will be provided over next few years to lawyers fore2600 kids. advocates cheered the decision. it will help children get fair hearing on asylum claims. critics say the move could violate federal law and prolong immigrants time in the u.s., encouraging more illegals to make a dangerous trip. harris, should we fit the bill for attorneys for kids sent to this country by themselves? >> we have a couple of options. we can pay for attorneys to put them in the countries where they think they should go home. or we can pay for their schooling. i read yesterday, there -- >> why do we have to choose between those? >> because there are states being saddled with particularly teenagers who came over illegally since january. putting them through school for the 2014-15 season, right?

there is an obligation for those municipalities through law, to educate these kids. so you can keep them here and not pay for the lawyers and not send them home. or you can educate them. you're right, that is an interesting choice, isn't it. >> makes you wonder, what is worse? drug war in honduras or come con core? common core. >> she has a straight face when she asks me. >> a conundrum. >> bottom line we don't have the money. we don't have the funds to do this to make these decisions. two, only encourages more kid to cross the border. encourages more families to cross the border. this does not solve the problem. in fact it will probably exacerbate it. we don't have the money to begin with. >> there is such a big business on illegal immigrant families and illegal immigrant kids. think about it. they're paying lawyers and public defenders. all money going out. it's a big business. >> it is cottage industry,

you're absolutely right. there is lot of money in charity and plenty of private organizations who i am sure happy to help lawyers work pro bono, or raise the money for the kids. >> there is tremendous backlog in the system. also they could fix this, dean, with amending the wilberforce law which is the trafficking law. because that has allowed them to get these speedy trials. if you're a child coming over from mexico they're allowed to send you back. they could apply the same standard to central american children but they haven't done that. >> it is policy glitch if you will. the thing that confuses me so much, as i sit here and watch this, if i was in another country, in there illegally, i'm not getting an attorney paid for by them. they're just booting me out. so we provide them, i don't know what the actual glitch in the law is, clearly we need to fix that because if they're coming over like that, we'll have a big and bigger problem. it will become more and more of an industry. >> have a heart for the kid for a moment. >> it is not their fault.

>> they're in limbo for very long time. looks like the administration wants to blame taxpayers, if you want us to fix the limbo you have to pony up. >> he created the problem. >> isn't that the answer to everything, va, secret service, border crisis, throw more money at it? create more of a bureaucracy that way. >> as sandra said, doesn't fix the problem. pro-democracy -- >> your turn to read, kennedy. we didn't want to cut you off! >> i'm not reading. these words are appearing in my brain. pro-democracy protests intensifying in hong kong. ultimatum, the protesters set for the government. we'll have a live report. plus are racy sex seminars the answer to fighting sexual assault on campus? the university defending its provocative approach and wait until you hear some of the seminars they are teaching. stay with us.

♪ >> a university taking a rather provocative approach to combating sexual assault by holding a week of seminars teaching students how to have safer and better sex. it may sound like a good idea but what do you think? here's the flyer for the university of new mexico so-called, sex week. one of the seminars is called, negotiating successful three-somes. i just said that on television. that one of the tamer titles that we can even say on tv much the head of the university's women's resource center sponsoring the sex week explains the wisdom behind such a racy approach. >> we are using some controversial material in order to boost attendance and in order to get them involved in the conversation. what we want to provide is the information and they can decide what to do with that information >> sign of digital age we live in. the new yes means yes policy adopted by growing number of

colleges, inspiring a new app that allows users to give affirmative consent before sex. and it lets you log the name and phone number of your sex partners this is just lovely. dean, i'm going to al yourself to get into a little trouble here. where are you going with this. >> are there enough on your phone for that? >> this is thing where i get myself booted off show forever. whatever happened to like, asking, or like, you know, those moments where you're close, say if it is okay, stuff like that? that is really what it comes down to. as a parent i discuss this sort of stuff with my son. i think he will be well-prepared when that time comes. on the other hand, when does it start next week? i'm going to university of new mexico to check it out. >> you're good. >> matches your pocket. >> bring kennedy. >> he has leather on so you know. >> i want to sign up for the total orgamo s-class.

i'm not good in spanish but i will learn. i took class at ucla evolution of human sexual behavior. 90% of the research came from university of new mexico. these people are total horn dogs. they obviously have a fixation. sound exhausting. at some point in college to do you have a write papers and learn something, prove you have been in class? do you have to have major eventually get a degree? >> wait a minute, kennedy there are snacks at these seminars. >> there is one right here. i can't say the name of the seminar. perhaps you can but -- >> overwhelming turnout for the classes, andrea. >> how do be a gentleman and get laid is the opening class. i mean, i agree with you. how are we going to compete globally when this is what students are focused on of the a lot of these guys and gals know how to do a lot of this stuff. that is the problem they're not focused on other things. you know what class is on here? not to drink six grain shots of alcohol and blackout in

fraternity house. >> very well-said. >> i'm tired of the feminists screaming from the rooftops that men need, yes, men need to be gentlemen and figure out i guess to get laid. there is an app for that. also, women need to decide, either we're strong women who can capable of taking care of ourselves, or, we are victims who need a special set of rules and regulations and protections. which one are we? someone tell me. >> why does everyone need instruction on everything? >> you're unusually quiet? >> i'm listening to -- >> signing up for one of the seminars. >> are you on the app right now. >> she is signing up. >> i have on tweetdeck. i'm watching everybody. i'm raising two young daughters and hear you talk about the son and conversations you're having. we are their best hope for the future of these conversations. so i liste hoping to glean between the jokes and everything else, some information that is going to be helpful. having an app how to hook up is not helpful. i would like if you're going to

do that, be balanced about it. where is the app that said no, i meant it? >> called a fist to the face. >> i'm serious. >> this is app where we look up. where is the flipside. i said no and don't feel bad saying no. >> how about the qualification of people teaching these classes? reed, a self-described sex and relationship role model, will be leading several workshops. >> better than the porn star that was at brown university last year. they brought in an actual porn star and paid her with i assume, fund from the university. so that is a very wonderful way to spend tuition money. i'm sure parents are thrilled on a porn star educating the kids. >> i don't know this is the message that university of new mexico wants to put out there. >> maybe it is. maybe enrollment will increase. >> with the incidents of sexual assault we've seen rampant on college campuses over the years, statistically goes up an down which years it is better or worse, but even having that happen at all, why would you want to put something like this

out there? like it is just to me, it is counter intuitive to increase the level of devil may care about that type of intimate behavior. again i'm raising two daughter. >> alcohol, without bringing in the alcohol point of all of this, i think as well. >> but, i think you're right. you have to bridge the two worlds, because you have to have personal responsibility. i mean, first and foremost, and you know -- >> take this as personal responsibility -- >> have to not make environment where it is easy to pick on victims. personal responsibility but you also can't have it as free-for-all. >> i like the educational system and universities in general in country, need reminder we go to school to study to enrich ourselves and get a job when we're done. >> you realize in the real world, you don't have time for this. >> no one does. >> new developments in the battle over the washington redskins name. there is more. petition to ban the word is gaining traction.

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>> more "outnumbered" is just a moment. eric shawn with what is coming up on second hour of "happening now." eric: we're been reporting about the protests in hong kong. offth anniversary of founding of communist china. they're demanding resignation of pro-chinese leader of hong kong. they want democrat hick measures restored. will beijing crankcracked down. they're investigating a public link to jesse matthew. the suspect linked to 18-year-old university of virginia student hannah graham they have forensic evidence they

say that links matthew to murdered woman who disappeared in 2009. is overprescription of antibiotics leading to obesity? that is the suggestion of a new study. dr. garner will be here with details. see you in ten minutes on "happening now." >> thanks, eric. we'll be watching. eric: right. >> all right. actor john cusack unleashing an eye-opening rant about hollywood, calling it a quote, whorehouse, that chews up young actors and spits them out. in an interview the star says he has actress friend who were put out to pasture at 29 because hollywood is obsessed to finding next hot 22-year-old. it is weird and quote, becoming almost like kiddie porn. at 4, just like me, cusack says he probably got another 20 years before he is considered being old. i got to say -- >> i can't believe you're 48. >> thank you. >> you look great. >> i will come on this show every day. >> we'll love. that. >> at 48, you know, 20 years that will put me 68.

put jon at 68. you will be considered old. honestly in my opinion, putting starlets out at 29 that has been going on for a long, long time. >> you tell us, why the difference? >> there is no difference. this is the way it always has been. he making a point. maybe he at 4see it more and more. >> so you know him well. is this jon upset he can't be the guy with the boom box working in the record store anymore like used to be in glory days? >> he looks almost the same. jon will be always guy say anything in the boom box. he will. i think to promote his film. i think what he is saying is not new. i think it has been that way for a long time. john is not afraid to say what he feels. i respect that. it is not new. i think it has been this way a long, long time. >> i'm curious. as someone who looks 29 but is 48, are you put off by it. do you look forward to younger casting? have you ever say to director, cast me kissing someone my own

age or you say it is not my place. >> no man would say that. >> why would i say that? >> would you rather work opposite someone or does it not matter? >> i don't think it is important. the important thing is chemistry on the set. i'm not worried about the age situation. there are great leading ladies not as young as 29-year-old. it is tough as an actress, much tougher for an actress than for a actor. for a man you start many abouting a man in your 40s. >> dean, i point out, leading ladies at top of the money list in hollywood are well into late 30s, early 40s. i think of reese witherspoon and amy adams. >> cameron did i as, julia roberts. >> yay. >> leslie mann is newcomer. there are plenty of women, who by the way learned their craft as they go. that is what makes them so watchable and attractive to men and women. >> i agree. jennifer lawrence is fantastic actress. she is younger but fantastic actress. as actors you have to earn your

next job. tough earn it every single time. it is always changing landscape. back in the old days you were part of studio system. you would have a six picture deal. or now you have a television show. >> hasn't that happened, rise of tv now? we're seeing actors who are older, men and women like bryan cranston and others getting roles because way more amazing tv shows so women can last longer? >> i agree. i agree 100%. >> you like viola dave's new show, how to get away with murder. that is new show. >> john cusack is total communist. loves chomsky. >> done well as capitalist. >> at love hollywood liberals. >> this is more hypocrisy from hollywood. they're screaming for equal pay and equal treatment in the work place doing this to their own. >> true that, ss. on that note, the denver nuggets mascot making a surprise

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♪ >> we are bringing about the '70s. rocky, the lovable mascot of the

denver basketball team is not feeling the love after attending a republican party meeting. the time is handling it internally and some questions if it would be handled differently if it showed up to a democratic rally. >> i hope so. they have a brand two protect. the nuggets need to stay away from political activities. and he shouldn't deputy to a republican fundraiser. >> i think they are right. you shouldn't go to a political rally. he has calls on his street and would have got knocked out and like unconscious and something to do with marijuana being legal

in colorado. i don't smoke marijuana but if i did i might run a round as rocky. >> i think he is. >> that left me with more questions. you like your nugget nuteral in >> what is wrong with you guys? in this case the mascot did not own uniform. he had no right to deputy to a rally or any rally if that uniform is used for one thing. >> they will be dunkin the nuggets. is that what it is called now? >> it will be by 1:05. >> i love being here. i will come any time. >> when can we see it. last friday was the last time.

and it is hilo rated show. and he's going to be with us for outnumber. and click on the over time tap. >> a team of doctors tracking everywhere who came in close contact with the man in texas diagnosed with ebola. the possibility of a second case of the deadly ebola virus is likely. >> the chances of an ebola outbreak are low. >> but it is now on american soil. can we trust that the authorities are equipped to stop the spread of this silent killer? >> there is no doubt we will stop it here.