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here in one hour. shannon: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> we begin with a fox news alert. new details now are coming in about the first case of ebola diagnosed on united states soil. texas health authorities are now saying they are checking as many as 100 people including young children who may have been exposed to the deadly virus. that is a significant jump from the 12-18 we were originally told about this time yesterday. this is "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner. here with me today, sandra smith, andrea tantaros, kirsten powers and today's @oneluckyguy, tucker carlson. [applause] and you are "outnumbered." >> profoundly. >> we love tucker. >> are you kidding? i miss being here. every time i pass a tv in an airport, i think i should be there. >> we got your love letters, cards and flowers, so here we are. >> thanks for having me.
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>> that will get you anywhere. >> flattery works. >> again, we begin with that growing fear and the facts about what's happening in texas, that ebola may not be limited to just one person. this as we learn that the dallas hospital treating that patient with the deadly virus may have breached protocol by initially sending him home after he reportedly told a nurse that he had just been in west africa. just a week before. john roberts is live for us in atlanta at the centers for decide control and prevention. john, brings up to speed. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. public health officials in texas casting a wide netting trying to find anyone and everyone who might have been in contact with not only thomas eric duncan, but people he was in contact with. they're looking at a hundred people, they believe the number of actual contacts will be substantially lower than that, but they just want to make sure they don't miss anyone, particularly after some of the things that have happened with this case going up to where we are. the state health department and
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the dallas county health d. also issued an order for four to members of duncan's family who had contact with him to stay in strict isolation in their home until october 19th, that would be the end of the potential incubation period. that order does carry with it the force of law, so if they were to leave the house, authorities could certainly take action against them. what about this dropped ball at the hospital? and those are not my words, those are the words of tony fauci, the director of the national institute on allergies and infectious diseases. he came into the hospital with a low grade fever, some abdominal discomfort on september 25th at about 10:00 at night. two people were told he had just came in from liberia, yet that information was never passed on to doctors who gave him antibiotics and told him to go back home. when he went back home, he was in contact with members of his family as he got progressively sicker for a couple of days.
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five of those family members were children who proceeded to go to four schools in the north dallas area earlier this week. governor rick perry is trying to allay the fears of parents of other students at those schools saying take care, now, because these students were not showing any symptoms and, therefore, probably could not transmit the virus. here's the governor. >> let me assure, these children have been identified and they are being monitored, and the disease not be transmitted before having any symptoms. >> i talked to the dallas independent school district just a short time ago, they report no mass absences, but they do believe some students may have been kept home by their parents as a precaution. the dallas independent school district is putting additional nurses on five schools; conrad high school, how muchkiss elementary, jack lowe elementary, rogers elementary and tasby middle school. there's also a hotline for parents who are concerned, who
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want to know more, 972-925-5810. and we're also learning of what could be a massive hole in the public health security screening net in west africa that may have allowed this fellow to come out. we know from a new york times report in monrovia, liberia, that he had been helping a young patient who was sick with ebola, he had actually carried her into her home. she died hours later, and four days later he got on a plane. the cdc says they have records that he was checked for his temperature, and he was fine. but anybody leaving liberia is supposed to be asked if they had contact with a patient who has ebola, so something definitely happened there. >> john roberts, thank you very much. tucker, i want to go to you first. i think for america we need to talk about the holes in protocol once these people get here. >> and we're not. curiously, the government seems to be telling us this is not a
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threat than addressing the potential threat. yes, ebola's very hard to transmit. on the other hand, it's a virus, and viruses change, they mutate. there is an actual threat, and it goes back to the president last month saying ebola will not come to this country. now it has. i'm pretty sure soon we're going to hear the government tell us don't discriminate against people with ebola. >> we want to dial back some of the speculation and the fear and just deal with the facts. the facts, though, are pretty daunting. this man came here, he alerted the emergency room that he'd recently traveled to west africa k liberia in particular where there is an actual outbreak and had helped transfer a woman who had ebola. those were some of the details that have now come out about the story. so they fell down, clearly. >> uh-huh. right, but i think i guess when you look at the places, also, airlines have been criticized saying how does this person get on the airlines, and airlines are saying if you're
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not exhibiting any symptoms, there's really no reason to keep somebody off the airline. and you have to ask how are we supposed to be preventing them from get anything the country other than relying on people disclosing information. because really even if they ask the right questions, you still would be relying on person being honest about coming in contact -- >> but if that's not getting past the front line worker to the doctor which indicates the information he had recently travel today west africa and then helped a woman that just died -- >> it's inexcusable. >> not handed to the doctor. and, harris, the national nurses' union represents 185,000 nurses nationwide. they said it found that 60% of its members felt u.s. hospitals were not prepared for ebola. they're simply saying if the hospitals are being told how to respond to a symptomatic ebola patient when they walk in, that's not being handed down to the front line worker, and that's a problem. >> well, i talked with dr.
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siegel who's part of our medical a-team here, and he says in any regard whether they're looking for ebola, the flu or whatever, you always when somebody comes in, you always ask them where they were recently. this was incompetence, and he wants to know where's the accountability now. are we going to hear are people going to be fired at that hospital? >> i think we know that we can't rely on people for human intelligence. we can't. and there's going to be breakdowns because humans are going to have failures. they let him out of this hospital, and he exposed himself to children. so, harris, i don't think we can trust them to give us the accurate information. we may see people getting on flights saying they haven't come in contact with anybody, and maybe they have because they want treatment in the u.s. we are not equipped to handle this, and at the time when we should be preparing, the president was dancing in martha's vineyard and assuring us this would never happen. i'll sate it before -- i've said it before, in these countries they do not believe in traditional medical care, so someone could get off a flight
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and seek treatment from a witch doctor. this is a bigger fear. we're hoping that they come to the hospitals in the u.s. they might not. >> all right. two points, again, dr. siegel made that i think we should mention. quarantine of travelers, tucker, he's saying is almost impossible because you've got thousands of people coming in daily and weekly what he's suggesting is an infrared temperature reading which is very basic technology that we have. we know our military has it. and you screen, and that way looking for a high temperature because -- >> but they took, i thought they took the temperature of this guy, that's what i read. >> well, the doctor is saying that the infrared is going to be very accurate. what are your thoughts on that? >> again, i think factually kirsten is right, that the decide was latent in this liberian man when he boarded that plane, he was totally asymptomatic, so i don't know what you do about it if someone's not displaying symptoms. i do think the government ought to lay off speculating. there's no risk, the risk is minimal, you don't know that.
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don't tell me that. that's not science. there are a lot of things we don't know about this. ebola was only discovered in 1976. let's stop pretending -- >> i would like to hear them shutting down the flights, personally. president obama making a major speech on the economy about two hours from now, expected to echo a statement made in an interview over the weekend. >> ronald reagan use today ask the question, are you better off than you were four years ago? in this case, are you better off than you were in six, and the answer is the country is definitely better off than we were when i came into office. >> stealing reagan's language, but press secretary josh earnest saying the president will also acknowledge that many americans aren't feeling the benefits of the recovery. a few -- new fox news poll backs that up saying 58% of americans say it's mostly false that workers are better off now in 2008. sandra, he has a heavy lift in your hometown of chicago. [laughter]
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>> let me tell you, i can give you a handful of ways this economy is not better off than when president obama took over in office. median household income down 5% since january 2009. unemployment has gone down, and you will hear the president tout that. that's that headline unemployment rate at 6.1%. but the labor participation rate is still at a 35-year low. those are the people that are actively working or looking for work, okay? that has fallen over his time the in office. people don't own homes as much as they did prior to president obama coming in office. home ownership's down 3%. so i can give you measure over measure indicating that this economy and american people are not better off today than when he took office. >> kirsten, you're very candid about this. why do you think the president is choosing to talk about the economy? i mean, in their a mind is it that everything else so bad that they feel this issue isn't terrible? it's not great, and if they make the argument that, hey, we're better than we were in 2008 when the stock market was crashing
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and people were losing their 401(k)s, we can make this argument? >> well, they can't not talk about it, we're in an election year. they're going to have to talk about it. the president is trying to give cover to candidates, i guess, and i think this is the question he's going to ask. i actually disagree with sandra can, respectfully, but that we are better off. i mean, our economy was crashing when he came in, you know what i mean? and i think you can point to things that are wrong, but sort of on the macro level, we were in a freefall, and now we're not. there are, the unemployment rate has dropped, and there are other indicators, you know, housing has improved and things like that. so i think there are things he can point to, it's just not the question anyone's asking. nobody's asking are we better off than we were six years ago. he's been in office for long enough -- >> there's a limit to the power of words. the soviets always used to say, no, actually, we've met our potato harvest target. [laughter] and people knew they hadn't because they were working in the potato fields. i don't remember a single person
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>> i like the charlie crist. it's expensive and a little outdated, but i know best. [laughter] >> andrea? [laughter] >> oh, i love it. >> could you see me groaning? >> what do you think of this? >> um, okay, a for effort. [laughter] right? you have to give them credit for trying to think outside the box. >> yeah. >> i mean, the republican party -- >> a big no over there from harris. >> but i don't like the show, "say yes to the dress," i don't really get that whole thing, but i don't like this. i don't know why, i just think it's weird. >> i'm with you. >> it looks like, honestly -- [laughter] this doesn't hit me, and i wonder who they think this targets. among women viewers -- >> all right. so i completely disagree. >> women aren't even getting married anymore at a young age. >> this smacks of -- >> it doesn't matter. they're of voting age, and somebody needs to target them. >> do they all want to get married? >> this message, sandra?
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these young girls aren't getting married in their 20s anymore. >> but why not consider the key demographic that may not be running out to vote? may be undecided on their -- [inaudible conversations] >> let me finish what i was going to say. this smacks of, quote, we got this. that's the problem. >> okay. >> you can't do anything now because we got this. you don't. you don't have anything until november 4th. >> i don't think as a general matter you should be encouraging people who don't know what they're voting for to vote. that's literally true. republicans shouldn't follow suit. you shouldn't pander to people. tell us what the candidates are for, attack the other guy, i'm all for attack ads -- >> you're not engaged -- >> you're targeting people who are watching "say yes to the dress," you want your people run by people whose favorite show is -- [inaudible conversations] why don't you stop patronizing them and tell them what the campaign's actually about -- >> maybe they won't pay
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attention. >> then they shouldn't vote. >> i think we agree they should be targeted, but the question is in what way. sort of saying this is not a good way to target them, what about this is going to make anyone turn out to vote for a republican? >> i think it emphasizes and maybe reemphasizes the fact that the republican party has a problem communicating with women voters. >> right. >> this is exhibit a. >> so does the democratic party. they just pander in the most ugly way -- >> but it works. female voters, tucker, the this last election decided they wanted their sex lives subsidized byhe government. >> oh, i -- >> they wanted their birth control covered, that's not the same thing. >> you say it's just for one day, but the pictures last a lifetime. [laughter] >> fair point. >> the most important issue in a young woman's life is her wedding day. it would be different if they were talking about the values of marriage. they're not.
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as andrea said, they're talking about the values of one day. and who decided that was the single most -- >> i don't know. i mean, our culture is obsessed with it, and i think they're trying to find a creative way to get them. i just don't think this is it, and i disagree about the democrats, tucker. they wouldn't be winning elections -- >> well, pandering, groveling. >> i don't think it's pandering, they're highlighting the issues they care about. >> they're highlighting women are hypocrites, basically. women have said over the years we don't need a man, we're so strong and independent, we're not or victims, and at the same time women are saying, oh, i agree, i really want the government to pay for my birth control concern. >> i don't think that makes you a victim. >> beyonce songs, it's a bunch of bull. >> it doesn't make you a victim to think birth control should be covered by the government. >> no, it makes you weak. >> and i don't think that's how democrats get them to turn out, they get them to turn out about the social safety net -- >> they lie and say that
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republicans want to take away their right to choose. >> offer to pay for your wedding yes, sir when you -- wedding dress when you -- >> that's next. [laughter] >> as quick washington exits go, this one, really fast. the secret service chief stepping down just seven hours after a vote of confidence from the president. the possible bad optics from are a head-spinning about face. plus, a high school telling girls what they are not allowed to wear because it might be distracting the boys. and to drive the point home, officials having the girls watch clips from a very popular movie featuring a prostitute. the fallout, not pretty. ♪ ♪
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shortcomings that are evident. >> but a mere serve -- seven hours later, a different spin from the white house after pierson submitted her prison nation to homeland security chief jeh johnson. >> well, director pierson offered her resignation because she believed it was in the best interest of the agency to which she has dedicated her career. the secretary agreed with that assessment, the president did as well. >> tucker, that's worthy of a, really? [laughter] >> she was really excited to quit. [laughter] no, it's so orwellian. when they, when the president says you have his confidence, that's when you start preparing for the drone attack on your house. [laughter] that's a very ominous sign. you almost feel sorry for the white house press secretary, josh earnest, who's fronting the most incompetent administration of my lifetime. they can't even coordinate something as basic as they're going to fire the head of the secret service. >> see, i heard that totally differently. i heard him basically saying she had to quit because this was
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becoming kind of a -- it was getting out of control. not that she wasn't -- >> really? what about the other scandals? >> no, i think -- >> benghazi. >> i'm just saying what he just said, i don't think, contradicted what he said earlier. i think what he said the second time is she decided she should resign because it was -- >> and you think it was her decision? >> -- yeah, at point it's become such a circus that she needs to resign, but -- >> you don't think she suggested it? >> i don't know. >> doesn't that show poor judgment? how could they not anticipate this would become a circuit? he penetrated the woas and got into -- the white house and got into the east wing. she should probably step down, and then, sandra, when he came out and basically used her as a human shield, another woman gets tossed under the bus, where he said her shortcomings where evident. then why was she in that job? >> kirsten, isn't the big picture here -- harris, i'll go to you on this one -- the
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overwhelming lack of accountability for those that have reigned other scandal -- over scandal after scandal, susan rice, kathleen sebelius, eric holder, benghazi, fast and furious, there's only been four firings under obama's presidency. >> yeah. and there's a completely different circumstance when you fire someone and allow them to tender their resignation, whether the two were really the same swrowrpny to get there doesn't matter. when the president takes decisive action to say you're fired, it's very, very different. you know, my question is how quickly they had somebody behind her to fill her spot, joseph clancy. he gets accolades for the leadership that he had with the secret service. he then went to protect employees at comcast as an individual and contractor and what not. but now he's coming back. did they give her that job because she was just a woman? >> yes. >> okay. because they clearly had some other people who might have been more qualified at what she was doing, and i'm here to say again, you don't do groups of people any favors when you hire
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people -- >> how do you know that she was hired? >> i don't know. i was looking at her resumé and how quickly they have somebody come behind her -- >> it was on the heels of the -- >> here's another thing -- >> it was on the heels of the prostitution scandal, and he was getting flak from wherein the democratic party that he didn't have enough women in power in his administration. >> yeah, i do think that it was a job not a lot of people wanted, frankly, because at the time exactly what you said. >> i think it was she came in when it was in a total mess because of the prostitution scandal, and so i do think in that sense it's possible there was no one else that wanted the job. >> go ahead, andrea. >> no, i was just going to say can we just in this one area of protecting the president where everybody can agree we don't want anything to happen to him or the first family? can we at least not have to do quotas and check political boxes and get the best perp for that job? the best person for that job? >> of course. on the other hand, the president has a lot of protection and so
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do the people around him. and i think we may be moving a little farther. the president is not a king. there is no reason his aides ought to block traffic in order to get to lunch on time which they do. that's an outrage, and the average person ought to be mad about that and that they have these government-subsidized servants. i'm not in any way downplaying it, i just don't believe we need a hot more of it. >> i'm concerned about this quota thing, though, because i just feel like men screw up all the time and nobody's saying, oh, he just got the job because he was man? okay, she did a bad job -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> no, but the point is men screw up all the time, so why is it when -- >> because women are hired because of -- >> maybe a woman does a bad job and a man does a bad job. >> correct. >> and unqualified men never get -- >> no, because -- >> resumé doesn't match up to the job. those are just a couple of examples. >> they raise the possibility in
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everybody's mind -- they're insulting. >> let's move on. >> you're here because of a quota. >> oh! [laughter] >> one lucky guy. [laughter] >> foxnews.com/outnumbered, join us for overtime at the top of the hour. but for now, officials at a north dakota high school are banning girls from wearing certain clothes because they say it's distracting to other students and teachers. yoga pants, skinny jeans, yessingings not allowed -- jeggings. the principal says, quote: the image you projebt so important. in our eyes we're trying to protect your kids, and sometimes they don't see it that way, end quote. and to teach the girls how not to dress, the school showed them clips of "pretty woman," you know, the romantic comedy where julia roberts plays a hooker with a heart of gold. and the banned clothing for boys? crickets, there is none.
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let's discuss. tucker? >> this is a tough one for me. the same rationale for the burka, by the way. obviously, i think yoga pants are one of the most important innovations of our time right behind fire and the wheel. [laughter] on the other hand, sexualizing children is really super creepy, and it's done an awful lot. it's easy to mocks them, but there's something real at the heart of what they're saying, and you know it. >> oh, harris, you're going to the wrong person -- >> you have yoga pants right now. >> met me tell you something, they're comfortable. these girls are responding to the new clothing saying that's what i own because it's comfortable to go to class in them. i see it in manhattan, girls going to and from school, some of them do kind of play it up, they wear the cropped shirt so they're fully showing all of their north koreatures, and i -- feature, and i get it. but i think it puts the wrong message in the brain of the girl that they have to change their behavior because somebody else can't control theirs. >> it's really about this idea
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of really super tight clothing. andrea? >> well, they do look like they're painted on, some of these skinny jeans. i'm a big fan of skinny jeans and yoga pants in yoga. i mean, sandra, she spelled it out. the girls aren't wearing the leggings and then a big sweater. they're wearing the leggings with a shorter shirt, and it shows everything. so i do think the schools have a bit of an issue on their hands because -- >> i know. >> kirsten, you're pretty -- >> it is pretty risque. >> you love yoga. >> i don't -- i think it's reasonable. i think it's -- >> what, the ban or yoga pants? >> yeah, the ban. and the ban isn't actually for yoga pants, it's just that they have to wear something that covers to a certain point that you can't just, you know, everything can't be exposed, basically. i also, but i'm biased by the fact i went to a private high school, we didn't have uniforms, but you never would have been allowed to wear yoga pants at school. so i don't even once why you're wearing them in the first place. put on some regular clothes,
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you're going to school. i don't understand. [laughter] like, you're not going -- you're not hanging out. what are they going to start going into the work force and think they can wear yoga pants to work? >> you have a daughter, sandra. as she gets older -- >> harris, she's an infant! [laughter] >> mine did too, they get older. they come into the world and suddenly -- >> well, you're the authority. have you seen guys, and i see them a lot in new york city, men are wearing skinny jeans more and more. and let me tell you, it's pretty revealing as well. [laughter] really tight in places that they should not be. >> this is a nontrend so far, thank god -- >> not you, but with pajama boy beta males. [laughter] >> you're so awesome. >> like you can't wear shorts or tank top, i guess parents can decide if they want to adhere to the policy or move to a different school. i guess that's a thought. all right -- [laughter] now, isis, the terrorists, advancing on a strategic town
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inside syria as new poll numbers show most americans support mutting in ground -- put anything ground troops if airstrikes are not enough to defeat the terror group, and a lot of generals are saying, well, you have one, you're going to need the other. why one critic says that support may not last. and the latest on the search for this missing university of virginia student, hannah graham. as we are learning new details about the suspect's possible link to other missing young girls. and after the show head to the web, as i mentioned, for "outnumbered overtime." tucker and kirsten will be going at it, i know. log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered, click on the overtime tab, and when you get there -- >> so excited. oh, my god. >> and that's how you can get in on the conversation. look for it. and then we're also watching our twitter and facebook so talk to us. stay close. ♪ ♪ ♪
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vote in about 20 minutes to step up turkey's role in the fight against isis. all day long law makes have been debating -- lawmakers have been debating whether to allow foreign troops for the operation as isis is pressing forward with their attack on a kurdish town along the syria/turkey border. meanwhile, a new fox news poll shows people support boots on the ground if airstrikes don't work by a ten-point margin, but charles krauthammer says that support won't last if the u.s. actually sends combat troops. >> that is the number you get when america has not as of yet sustained so much as a sprained ankle in this campaign. if we do start to put ground troops in syria or even in iraq and casualties begin to mount, that number will turn around very rapidly. >> tucker, what is your take? do you think that the
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administration will eventually cave and put actual boots on the ground? >> i think -- >> will they have to cave? >> i don't, but you never know. this is a very fast moving situation. we're watching the middle east collapse, and when it affects us where it hurts which is in energy prices, totally possible that this sweeps into the gulf and we're looking at $12 a gallon gasoline and our economy collapses, you know, people might feel like committing ground troops is a good idea. but i'm as usual what's the objective here? if you committed ground troops, the point would be to what? kill people who say they were for isis or whatever, and how -- what would that mean exactly? i mean, there is no strategy that has been articulated that i have seen by the obama administration and until there is, no chance. >> harris, tucker brings up a great point. i think a lot of people are still wounderring what is the exact strategy because the one they put forward has been debunked and criticized, and many people say arming the rebels but no boots on the ground, there's been a lack of strategy. >> i don't think that many americans at least from what i'm
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reading would care about every detail of the strategy. what they do care is what the president keeps saying we won't do. i think detailing the strategy in public is not necessary. having an end game is, having a policy necessarily is. but i want to pick up on something i said and really yield the rest of my time to sandra. aren't we becoming more energy dependent? i mean, ip dependent at this point? it surprises me that you think gasoline would go to $12 a gallon when i'm finding that crude oil prices are coming back in the other direction. >> tucker -- [inaudible] >> i'm paying attention. >> well, they're set on the international market. >> but we are doing some things differently as americans in terms of our energy use, right? >> well, no. on the global state, we're the largest oil consumer in the world, and we are very much less dependent on foreign oil today than we ever have been, hex, the drop -- hence, the drop in oil prices -- >> if the straits of hormuz were closed tomorrow, what would the price -- >> well, it would go up, but we have more oil in this country as
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we ever had, and we're not buying as much oil from foreign countries. let me make one point that the scary part for the american people if we were to put boots on the ground that was after, andrea, this administration promising, kirsten, no boots obvious the ground, we would be doing that after so much reluctancy, and the american people would probably not have a lot of confidence in it at that point. >> they seem to be expressing support for it. i know there's all this criticism for obama not having a plan, but it's not like the republicans have some great plan here. >> that's fair. >> i feel like everybody -- >> true fact. >> yeah. well said. [laughter] >> you're right. finish legally, that's true. >> we actually agree. [inaudible conversations] >> all right. today it gets real for one of the stars of "the real housewives of new jersey" and her husband as they finally learn their sentence for admitting to breaking the law. and a popular game show is under
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fire, the move it's made that's putting some people's love of jeopardy in jeopardy. ♪ ♪ i have the worst cold with this runny nose. i better take something. dayquill cold and flu doesn't treat your runny nose. seriously? alka-seltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. oh, what a relief it is.
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>> more "outnumbered" in just a mo, but first let's get to shannon bream with what's coming up on the second hour of "happening now." >> next hour hong kong's leader is now asking for talks with protesters, thousands of them protesting a crackdown on democracy in the one-time british colony. david piper will be reporting on that. and four deaths at least partly attributed to a horrible bug that's been spreading like wildfire across the country. at least 500 people in 42 states have respiratory issues related to that virus: we're going to talk to an infectious disease doctor about how to stop it. and a husband and wife duo on "the real housewives of new jersey" will be sentenced today after pleading guilty to conspiracy and bankruptcy fraud. julie banderas has the 411. hope to see you at the top of the hour. >> shannon, thank you. >> all right, totally "outnumbered," tucker style. the game show jeopardy is getting slammed over a category called "what women want." it ran this week.
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among the clues, quote: some help around the house, and would it kill you to get out the bissell canister once in a while? plus a pair of jeans that fit well from this brand. answer, what are levis, of course. and a few moments of quiet to do this, especially the one edited by will shorts in "the new york times," answer, who is, what is cross word puzzle? reaction on twitter was swift, what are outdated stereotypes? [laughter] and joanna tweeted this: >> we reached out to jeopardy executives for comment, but they had known. >> hey, full disclosure on jeopardy, by the way. you won once. >> i love it. i was on jeopardy. i love alex trebek. i object to this category
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because it's an unanswerable question. [laughter] what do women want? nobody knows. >> levis? like, i don't, is that a thing that people -- >> that is kind of yesterday. [laughter] >> that was my childhood, i think. yeah, it seems outdated. i don't find it that offensive. >> well, you look enraged, app drink ya. >> oh, yes -- andrea, oh, yes. i can't control myself. you're right, levis? >> women do just want a pair of jeans that make our butts look good, but the women that are outraged, think they need a margarita machine and calm down. settle yourselves. women do want a nice pair of shoes, a pair of jeans, help with the housework, maybe a live-in manicurist. >> i spend my whole life around women, and one of the things they talk about is clothes, like a lot. so why is it bad to put a clothing -- >> it shouldn't be a category on jeopardy. i don't know, do they have the e
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give elect for men? >> they only want one thick. that would be very short -- >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> it's basically true. >> you agree with him? >> what do you mean? let me speak to as a man. [laughter] >> the same answer for every single block. [laughter] >> no, wait, i have -- [inaudible] on what men want, sorry. >> i know the answer. my father said if they knew what we really thought, they wouldn't talk to us. i, no, i know, it's awful. are you offended by this, sandra? >> no. i side with kirsten, i think they're just not understanding what we want. >> yeah. well, that is true. so if you were to design it, what would the answers be? what do women really want? >> hmm, this is good. >> tucker, i don't know that men and women are that much different. >> women? >> true confessions over there. sandra -- [laughter] >> a joke. i'm like the last person to make a joke like that. help me out, girls. what would we want? >> what do women want? since we've got about 60 seconds
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to answer this question -- 15, i'm hearing. >> a margarita machine at the house, someone to iron would be great, pick up the dry cleaning -- >> i only want one thing, more time. >> oh, that is sweet. i agree with that. we're on the same page. >> see? >> we want the same thing. well, a new line of superhero clothing raises some eyebrows. why critics say they're offensive. offensive. >> what? [laughter] ♪ ♪ finally get in shape. not to be focusing, again, on my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i finally made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to
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. clothes feature messages women consider sexist, training to be batman's wife, and one for men with super man and wonderwoman kissing says, score, superman does it again, and look at these baby onesies. the girls' outfits says, i only date hero, and the boy's says future man of steel. they say the messages are offensive and is looking into the design. >> what? >> seriously. >> seriously? >> it's offensive to want to marry someone? that's the message. >> that's not the message.
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i'll be the outraged one. >> go for it. >> it's the idea that's what you aspire to, like i'm a future -- that's my future is to marry batman. >> why? what's wrong with marrying batman. >> i don't think that's a goal in life. >> really? >> if you meet him and hit it off and marry him, that's great, your goal shouldn't be i'm going to marry a certain man. >> you don't think that's a key decision in life? >> absolutely. but that's not -- i think that -- you have shirts that say future wife and future husband and men would wear them and women would wear them. everyone should want to get married, but it's only the girl shirtings that say it. my identity is who i'm married to. >> the baby onesies is another element. babies don't have a voice. they can't talk yet. nay are sending messages out without knowing it. >> i think, like, i don't know,
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like, i look at my children, and i think the most important decision they make is who you marry, and i want more than whatever dumb career, boy or girl, i want them to marry good people. >> nar riing batman? -- >> not batman, but, like -- >> i agree that marriage is important and who you marry is very important. >> we're missing the point. it's that the girls things were targeted to getting married, and boys targeted towards becoming somebody. >> right. >> i do agree with you on that. women's goals evolved past just getting married. although, going back to the what women want segment, tucker is right, women want a strong great guy, and you made the joke, what women want, it's not different from men. see how superman looked into her eyes. >> they want the same things sometimes. >> true confessions. i married superman. >> did you really?
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>> they hi he looks like clark ke kent. >> thank you for being here, foxnews.com/outnumbered. -"happening now" starts right now. we start with the fox news alert. right now, doctors await for more possible cases of ebola after the shocking diagnosis of the liberia man in texas. >> the same one who went to the er for help and sent home last week. it's all happening now. >> odds of pushin low. >> so were the odds of the ebola coming to the u.s., and now it's here. health officials in texas say 1 00 people came into contact with the first person diagnosed in america after flying here from west africa.

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