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plus, two new dogs were invented for the westminster dog -- >> invented? fantastic. watch the weekend. see you back here on monday, everybody. bill: friendly fire. president obama's former defense secretary saying president obama dropped the ball on iraq. leon panetta. he says they may have left iraq vulnerable to an isis takeover. martha: i'm martha maccallum. the claims were made in a new memoir that is called "worthy fight." he served as cia director and was defense secretary.
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if the country split apart into violence it could become a new haven for terrorists to plot attacks against the united states. bill: that's not all he said. chris tires walt, host much digital politics. why is panetta talking this way? >> he wants his record to reflect his position on a policy that didn't work out well on national security and he in his closing career in washington and he's a core member of the clinton inner circle and i imagine this is part of building a dam between hillary clinton's foreign policy and obama's foreign policy which very few people are optimistic about.
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bill: those on our side saw the white house so eager to to rid itself of iraq they did not flock arrange thes that would preserve the gains. >> presumably as his successor -- press saysor robert gates as a -- his predecessor robert gates urging the president to do more. he uses the same language you heard from george w. bush in 2007 and you heard from mitt romney on the campaign trail. he uses the same language to talk about the policy failures of the white house. bill: the president said they
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wouldn't give us immunity. we weren't going to leave forces behind. >> the reason we didn't have a follow-on fours in iraq is because the iraqis were -- a majority of iraqis did not want u.s. troops there. >> keep in mind that wasn't a decision made by me, was a decision made by the iraqi government. bill: is that consistent? >> reporter: not even close. in 2012 when he was running for his second term he attacked mitt romney. they sat at the the same table and he bashed romney for wanting to leave troops in iraq. he said the u.s. would get bogged down and it would get worse for the united states. remember what the obama critics talk about which is the president didn't try.
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he didn't try to get it done. it may be nouri al-maliki's fault but the president didn't try. bill: chris stirewalt out of washington leading in the our coverage today. martha: what does the president have to say about this. we are going to hear quite a bit more of this. >> we just did a deal in and there are three days ago to keep 10,000-plus that country. on twitter @billhemmer and @marthamaccallum. martha: the fourth american
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diagnosed with ebola. the nbc cameraman contracting the disease while he was on the ground in liberia. meanwhile four family members of the first person diagnosed with ebola in the united states are being ordered to stay in their dallas apartment after they basically flew in the face of those orders in recent days. if they try to leave they will be arrested. a very different tack being taken as casey stegall joins us in dallas. the hospital is responding to how they first handled this case. >> reporter: last thursday dunn and showed up to the emergency room at texas health presbyterian hospital complaining of fever and abdominal pain. his family claims he told the nursing staff he had just come to dallas from liberia but the doctor who saw him was never
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given that information so he was given a prescription and discharged from the hospital. three days later so sick he had to come back by ambulance. that's when they discovered he had ebola. representatives with texas health saying they identified a flaw in their ehr or electronic health records systems and there are separate physician and nursing work flows. so essentially the doctor was not able to see the nurse's notes. martha: what is the patient's family saying about all this? >> reporter: his half brother lives in the phoenix area. he's talking to the press saying he's very concerned about his half brother and he's extremely concerned for his 21-year-old son because that man happens to be one of the four currently being quarantined at that apartment complex not far from the hospital.
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he has spoken with his son by telephone, however, listen. >> every day okay we have food, we are here, we are fine. >> reporter: at this point the cdc says no members of the family and no one else in this community right now showing symptoms of the deadly virus, martha. martha: that's good news and we hope it stays that way. bill: the ebola outbreak is costing money at the pump. exxon restricting some of its workers from travel together affected countries. martha: what do we need to know about ebola? how do you contract it? the virus is spread through direct contact with blood or bodily fluids like saliva from
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an infected person. but it is not as far as we know airborne. you cannot get it from breathing the same air as someone infected with the disease and there is no cure. there is a lot of work underway to develop a vaccine. experimental vaccines exist and that is a front that needs to be aggressively pursued. bill: breaking news on the economy. the september jobs report is out moment ago. the unemployment rate in america falling to 5.9%. a 6-year low, that's a pretty good headline. people just given up looking for a job all together, almost 12%. stewart varney from the fox business network. what does it look like? >> reporter: good headlines. for the first time in a long time, six years we have the unemployment rate below 6%. here come the caveats.
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first off, the participation rate has fallen to another low. 62.7%. the lowest since february of 1978. that means a big chunk of the labor force is not in the labor force. that's part of the reason why it doesn't feel look a strong recovery. caveat number two, there is more part-time work. more part-time work not as well paid. $35,000 extra part time jobs were created. then we have average hourly wages not gaining ground. in the last month down ever so slightly. you have got the same old, same old. a good number of new jobs being created but there aren't many good paid full-time jobs and that's why it doesn't seem like a full growth of strong recovery. >> that's a healthy number
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higher. this labor participation rate, you get back to the 1970s, what are those people living on? >> reporter: that's a good question. some of them have retired early. some of them are living on their savings because they can't go back and get a job. some of them have gone back to college. bill: they could be on food stamps and all of that. >> reporter: all of the above is true. that's why it feels like this is not a strong recovery. if you are down to 62.7% as a participation rate it means america, a big chunk of america is not working. you have the participation right back up to where it was in 2007. the unemployment rate would be 10%. bill: stuart varney.
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martha: isis has been using social media as a weapon. the terror group is said to be recruiting thousands of new members every month. now the united states is trying to go back at that with its own campaign to play counter terrorism on social media, but is it working? bill: this is being called the largest cyber attack in history. a major american bang hit hard by hackers. 80 million people affected. are you one of them? martha: leon panetta saying president obama could have left troops in frawk he wanted to. >> reporter: are you arguing 5,000 troops or 10,000 troops or 20,000 troops would have been able to fight back against isil when 100,000 couldn't hold back
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hospital level standards. the ruling is pending a full appeal. bill: the u.s. state department is trying to fight back against isis online. it's all in english, too. the think again, turn away campaign uses disturbing video and violent acts the group has committed like blowing up mosques. welcome to america's newsroom. i want our viewers to know we watched this video earlier today. it's far too gruesome to put on tell vague but these are the images the government captured in a way to transmit a new message back to english speaking young men in the u.s. or great britain or somewhere else in the world to say don't join this fight. which lead us to the question, is this strategy effective or
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not? >> over the last few months isis has proven itself to be especially media savvy. and with more traditional media forms as well. i think it's crucial the administration designed and implemented a campaign to combat isis on line as well as on the battlefield. but i think it's a bit early days to pass judgment on the efficacy of the plan. i think we need to let this campaign play out over the coming weeks and months before we can determine with any degree of reamism how effective it is. bill: we'll show our viewers a few of the tweets on this "think again, turn away" campaign. it's beheading. people being shot on the sidewalk. it's crucifixions of christians.
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in iraq, syria or both. it's gruesome stuff. there has been intelligence analysts who say this is the wrong strategy. i want you to respond to this. this person believes we are engaging with terrorists more than refuting what they do. is there a point to be made with that? >> absolutely. i think that point will be reached further count line when we can capture and measure the results of the campaign. i'm not there at the state department so i don't know if they believe that to be weeks or months but somewhere around that time. the other thing i think is important to point out is that, you know, this is just their social media savvy is one component of what makes isis a dangerous terrorist organization. social media skills are just one tool in the sort of terrorist tool box they can draw upon.
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bill: you are saying it's not just propaganda you need to worry about, it's the til threat on the ground. >> that's exactly right. we need to worry about the fact that they allegedly have hundreds of millions of dollars in the beang and they have proven their ability to hold captured territory which is something al qaeda has never been able to do. it's important not to lose sight of the core mission which is ultimately defeating and degrading isis. bill: can you lay out a better strategy? >> i think a whole of government approach is great. it's great the state department is thinking about media campaigns to kind of fight back punch pore punch. i would say that's more at at tactical level than. at the strategic level i think
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the president is focused on shoring up this international isis coalition. you need to strike the right balance to focus on didn't aspects. bill: the coalition is the hoping you are with us coalition so far. gillian turner with us out of washington, d.c. good to have you in the program. martha: president obama saying the economy is better off than when he took control of it. a new poll shows voters may not agree with that. bill: hear is a high-speed police chase coming to a dramatic end.
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bill: a man wanted for a bank robbery leading in the police on a three-hour chase. that's how it ended. you lose control, spin off the road and crash in the dirt. they ended as they so often do. martha: we are learning more about the security breach apartment jpmorgan chase. it compromised information for 76 million household. what can you tell us about this? >> reporter: there is a new information coming to light. they disclosed user contact information including names, phone numbers and email addresses and jpmorgan chase information relating to such
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customers have been compromized. right now there is no evidence that the account information like account numbers and passwords or user i.d.s or social security numbers were compromised according to the document filed. if the they athis breach was disclosed in august but the cyber attack dates back to june. the firm told its customers they don't need to change their user names or pass words and their money is safe. i spoke with jim lewis, a sieb sister security expert. he says this is the equivalent of hackers breaking into the marketing department but not the vault. there is a black market for this kind of data.
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the cyber attacks are happening more frequently. there was a breach last christmas at target and home depot's payment systems were breached that hit 56 million payment cards. bill: the question for you, america. are you better off now than you were six years ago? president obama says the answer to that question is as emphatic yes. but a brand-new poll shows not everyone agrees with that. martha: eric holder on the way out. why he's filing new charges against the attorney general on fast and furious. >> brian did ultimately come home that christmas. we buried him not far from the house that he was raised in just prior to christmas day. hi, i'm henry winkler
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bill: isis on the march. that terror army on the outskirts of the town much kobani. -- the town of kobani. what are you seeing today? >> reporter: we are as close as you can get to isis. by our estimation those terrorists are a mile and a half from where we are standing from this vantage point here in turkey. the war against isis, at least this battle is not going well at all. behind me is the town of kobani inside syria. we have been watching all day as it got pounded by isis. they have been using mortars and artillery and several tanks. this town of kobani in normal times has a population of 60,000, mostly kurds.
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we are told this town is empty except some ill equipped and very brave kurdish fighters. we have been hearing small arms fire from the eastern side of the fire probably kurds engage with isis. we are seeing for the first time the fight being brought into kobani. there have been five u.s. airstrikes in the past week in this area but none the last two days. those seem to have had no effect at all. and we have been watching with our own eyes two isis tanks roll across the desert and a lot of armed vehicles. turkey said they will get involved in the fight against isis and we have seen a large presence of turkish military all around us but no signs they are moving in. finally what we are estimating is if this town behind us falls, then isis has control something like -- you are seeing 100 miles
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of turkey-syria border controlled by isis, including the gains we have been reporting inside iraq. it's definitely the is very terrorists on the movant u.s. in pursuit. martha: we have brand-new fox polls that show nearly half of americans don't feel much has changed in the economy since president obama took office. only 24% say they are better off today. 28% say they are worse off, and 47% say things are about the same. so that's almost 75% who disagree with the president's take on this. president obama told a different story during an event yesterday saying there is no question his policies have improved the economy. >> it is up disputable that our country is stronger today than when i took office by of economic measure we are better
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off now than we were when i took office. >> so you are right. tucker carlson is the editor of the daily caller. robert hoopes is the former chief of staff of joe biden. let's talk about the economy. tucker, do you agree with the president? >> i agree the stock market has doubled under his tenure. he said the rich are richer. the middle class are struggling and in that is the great irony. you have seen the wealth gap spread faster and wider than it has in generations under a president who seems to claim to care about income equality. >> 52 consecutive months of job growth.
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the economy created a quarter million jobs. the motion the presiden presidet doing anything, i think this is a wakeup call for all politicians. the president's approval is 40%. but congress' approval is 7%. martha: it's a dismal picture for congress and they have a role to play as well. i want to show you a couple more numbers. are you satisfied with how things are going the country today? this is a right track-wrong track. 59% say they are not satisfied. let's look at how you rate national economic conditions. 43% say it's getting better. 43% say it's getting worse. one other number we got was this labor forward participation rate.
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that's a dismal number. people are opting out of the workforce at levels we haven't seen since 1978. >> those two poll numbers you would like to see them better, but they are trending from 2010 they improved 8, 9, 10% and points. the momentum seems to be tracking in a positive direct. as far as people leaving the labor force, it's a challenge. the way the economy is shaped and the kind of jobs being created. some of the good news is the addition of professional white collar healthcare jobs and careers. not just men mum wage jobs. but careers that people can build a family and community around. >> i don't get the labor force participation number. if people are opting out, what are they doing? what money are they counting on?
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how is this working? >> there is a higher percentage of people taking federal aid since the great depression. the energy boom is something for which the president can take no credit. it was a technological advance that allowed it. so the labor force participation rate varies by region. north dakota has 100%. his solution, go back and look at it. it includes internet for high schools. maternityity leaves. adding a couple bucks to the minimum wage. bill: for the none ritchie rich. those are real things, tucker. >> that's why you will do great in mid stayed and horrible in
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red states. martha: where is our tax reform and why has it not pen led by the president of the united states when people think it' ridiculous the tax system we are under. >> read the constitution. all bills regarding revenue start in the house of representatives. >> let me add one sentence. the president hasn't taken on carried interest. that allows hedge fund managers to get tax rates at half the rate of the rest of us.
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>> no whining and come flank my house, that's all the republicans are doing. speaker boehner can convene the house any time he wants and pass a comprehensive tax reform bill. there is so much more this congress can be doing. which is why they are at a 7% approval rating. the people know it. martha: have a great weekend. bill: thursday night football and a blowout in the nfl. the packers to the minnesota vikings 42-10. green bay's defense picking them off twice. look at that. he's like an suv. early in the season packers having a tough start. rogers said chill out, we'll be
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just fine. martha: what's your prediction for the packers-bengals game? bill: the ban the bengals win. martha: i have got to go with the packers. here's what's coming up this morning. israel made some very strong warnings about the situation in the world even to go so far as to say another holocaust could be coming if iran is able to get a nuclear bomb. they feel this has been ignored in many ways by the president. what should be common this deal with tehran. bill: panetta saying the president could have and should have made a deal to keep americans forces in iraq but did not want to. >> there were events that didn't
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bill: former cia chief and defense chief is blaming obama for failing to keep forces in iraq to keep the peace four years ago. jen psaki is here. panetta writes iraq's stability was not only in iraq's interest but all see in ours. i privately and publicly advocated for a residual force that could provide training for iraq's military.
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what panetta is arguing is at the very end in late 2011, defense that year when push came to shove american leadership did not step up. why not? >> first let me say that secretary panetta is somebody who has such an incredible record of public service and he's respected in the government and across both parties. but iraq is a sovereign country. iraq had to make decision and the iraqi leadership that they wanted to have a troop presence there. there were political challenges but they clearly did not. second when didn't have the trap protections we needed. bill: you are saying panetta is wrong? >> i don't think we need to get into an argument about that. those are the events that led us into being unable to have a troop presence there regardless, it wouldn't have changed the circumstance we are in today. bill: that's what leadership is
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about. that goes back to his point that leadership did not step up and the question comes again, why not? >> i think the iraqi government -- it would not have mattered. they didn't want troops in iraq. they weren't willing to take the steps needed. it wasn't going to get through parliament. the poll texas were not aligned with making this happen. bill: they days ago we signed a deal with afghanistan, we'll have 10,000 american troops that will stay beyond this year. we did that deal with the government three days ago. >> afghanistan is a different country from iraq. there is different leadership in afghanistan than there was in iraq at the time. were thrimed -- it was due to a great deal of work by secretary kerry where we were able to get to the a point where we had leadership in place so we can have a presence there.
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bill: if we wanted our soldiers and marines to get american legal protection immunity and you are saying maliki would not go there. we have 1,600 americans fighting isis in iraq today. do those americans have immunity? >> they are under chief of mission protection. this is a different circumstance. iraq inindividual use in, they want us to be there. so we are looking at a different situation than we were just a couple years ago when we were talking about having a presence there over the long term. i think it's important to note we weren't talking about combat troops staying there. we had 175,000 troops on the ground in iraq and still al qaeda was growing. so we would be at a point today where we would have to take action. bill: there are reports behind that you help iraqis keep an eye on isis and they would not exist
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in the way they exist today. when you think about what has developed in iraq in the past year and a half and you think the deal we did with afghanistan has iraq now become a teachable moment for this administration? >> i think, bill, there are things that we are doing differently. the iraqi government is doing differently. a couple of years ago when we worked with sunni tribes we didn't have a long-term plan for them to be engaged in what the iraqi security forces were doing. now we are working with them to put a national guard in place. bill: iraq has taught us something. >> there are certain pieces we have worked with the iraqi government to take a slightly different approach. we were talking about a small residual force. at many times we had 150,000' during the surge. no one would have anticipated
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the iraqi security forces would have been unwilling to fight. bill: is it their fault? >> some were prepared. some weren't prepared. we have done an assessment to determine where we can go from here. nobody anticipated isil would be as strong and is i will stuart forces would be unwilling to fight back. bill: there is an important distinction between the member countries willing to do something in iraq and other countries doing a little in syria. it sounds like a coalition of kind of, maybe, perhaps willing. when you look at syria two days ago. we hit self targets, but only the united states. two days ago in iraq you had the first of the royal air force out of britain fly their first sort
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why is. australia committed two aircraft that are unmanned. one is a refueling plane in the air. it does not appear this coalition is coming together the way it needs to in order for the world to fight back and stop this. >> i'm sure sit would come as no surprise that i would disagree with you on this point. general allen and ambassador mcgirk. the united states has a military second to none. there is no question about that. but these countries not on did they join us on the first day, they have been aligned with us ever since then. it's not just a military coalition. we'll not win this fight, we'll not destroy isil with military options alone. bill: so far this is far from a global response.
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final question. >> i think more than 50 countries is quite a global response. bill: it depend on what they are contributing. are the political advisers getting in the way of the military decisions in iraq and syria today? yes or no. >> absolutely not. the department of defense makes those decisions. what general allen and ambassador mcgirk are focused on is expanding to counter tear rival financing. bill: jen psaki, spokeswoman at the state department. martha: more on that topic coming up in a bit. in the meantime shellfish on the loose and delaying a flight? seriously? we'll bring you more information on the search for justice for murdered border agent brian
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martha: eric holder heads for the door, a new court document revealed the house oversight committee is going after him again for contempt concerning fast and furious, the botched gun running operation. william lajeunesse is live with us from los angeles. what does this document say and what los angeles it allow them to take. >> reporter: it says eric holder should pay a fine and even go to jail if he doesn't turn over certain documents. they went to court.
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last month a federal judge agreed with them and ordered holder to turn over records by this past wednesday. again he refused. last night house lawyers asked the judge to find holder personally if he doesn't, and throw him in jail if he does not pay up. the document include white house and justice emails and memos related to operation fast and furious, the government plan to send assault rifles to mexico. those beguns killed countless people including border agent brian terry. officials claimed they thank you nothing about this scandal or the coverup. house republicans disagree and they want the documents that prove it. martha: what is the justice department saying at this point? >> reporter: democrats in general consider fast and furious a witch hunt. they consider' this an election year stunt.
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those documents sought by congress are considered exempt by privilege. they say we are at a loss to understand this latest stunt since the committee did not object to november as an appropriate time line for the documents. the attorney general is trying to lead. the house wants the documents before he leaves. those familiar with the scandal all expected the justice department to fight the production of documents until the president's time in office has ended. >> martha: no answers yet for brian terry's family. bill: the first case of ebola diagnosed on u.s. soil prompting serious questions about international travel. martha: 32 days to go. republicans are trying to get control of the senate on capitol
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might not seem so big after all. ♪ martha:'s we're just getting some brand-new reaction from the obama administration from leon panetta in his book. thing the president's inner circle is to blame for the rising of isis pushing back against any potential deal that with a cap more u.s. troops on the ground on iraq and a lot more to come on this this morning. welcome to the brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." bill: good morning. and new memoir, panetta says the agreement was within reach but the white house to not pursue it ignoring warning for the military advisors terrorists can take advantage in america's absence. state department press secretary just said a moment ago on "america's newsroom" about that.
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>> iraq is a sovereign country, the iraqi leadership at the time they wanted to have forces, they wanted to have a troop presence. political challenges, but they clearly did not in the second is we didn't have the true protections we needed. helping amy would've let the troops stay without protections. martha: inside all of these comments going back and forth, chief white house correspondent joins us from the white house. we are starting to get a little bit of a reaction from the white house. we heard some of it. joe biden also weighing in. i want to get your reaction to that. >> i am finding former administration officials at any rate, i'm serious, at least give the guy a chance to get out of office. martha: joe biden clearly kicked
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off he is speaking out the way he is. >> also went after the president on some of these decisions, but also remember not gates book ripped the vice president said he was wrong about every major national security decision over the last decade or two, so that cut deep for joe biden. they are getting these books that are adding layers three-story the white house doesn't always like to put out. what was interesting is repeating with the president has said many times before. of course not have left troops behind without legal immunity. what the left out is what leon panetta is now writing, he and others were urging the president you have leverage, threatened to cut off u.s. aid to iraq, he desperately needed that at the time and you could get a deal here.
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adding new layers of that story, saying the president's policies have been about hesitation, these are cutting deep with this white house because the country is back at war and former officials are ripping into him. martha: it is interesting, both of these individuals worked for other administrations as well, so they have the viewpoint of seeing how it works in other administrations and they were willing to work out about the way they are doing things. >> 's we've just served in the bush administration. this is someone who had an entire political life long before barack obama came to power. he was a congressman. he served in the naval administration and was a
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white house chief of staff for bill clinton so he does not owe this white house anything. he had his own political life and wanted to put out the truth. everybody can write their own perspective. they are adding layers three-story that don't fit white house narrative right now and that is why they are struggling to deal with it. martha: he is already sending the thoughts of what they have to say. thank you very much. bill: another fox news alert, there will be an update from the cdc this afternoon as we get new details now on thomas duncan diagnosed in dallas. we poorly got on a plane after lying about contact with infected people. prompting new concerns of air travel raising questions about whether or not flights should be restricted. live in atlanta, how did this guy get through the cracks? >> this is the questionnaire
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passengers leaving the west african nations effected by the outbreak have to fill out. one question the particular asks have you spent time in the same room within 1 meter of a person with ebola. on that question mr. duncan answered no. because at the time he displayed no fever, showed no outward symptoms, he was allowed to board the plane and consequently made it to dallas, texas, before he became ill. authorities plan to prosecute him for lying on the exit questionnaire but some say exit screenings should require passengers to provide documentation they stayed in areas unaffected by ebola, obviously a debate that will continue, bill. bill: how safe is air travel? >> health officials in the airline industry say as a
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passenger airline travel is very safe. i want to show you an e-mail we got from a spokeswoman from a trade group. she writes airlines for those that fly to countries remain in steady contact with government agencies and health officials have procedures in place my trip quickly respond to potential health concerns. before travis lee the west african countries, screeners take their temperature within fred's mom's visit a series of health-related questions. at the very least this gives people with symptoms off of airplanes which is important because people infected are not contagious until they actually become ill. even if a passenger were to develop symptoms, the cdc ebola guidelines state the risk of spreading ebola to passengers or crew and aircraft is low because it spreads by direct contact with infected body fluid, it does not spread through the air like flu so health officials
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said biggest threat is going to be to health care workers and family members who are actually touching the body fluids of patients actively exhibiting symptoms. because this disease is so serious, they want to prevent anyone infected with the disease from boarding any aircraft. bill: 3:30 is the time for the press conference. thank you, live in atlanta. martha: new polls suggest some not great news for democrats heading into the final week before the midterm elections. a chance they could lose the senate does remain high. nobody knows how this is going to go with 30 some days to go to the latest numbers that we have got. the senate election were held today, most people say they would vote republican. 47% to 43%. editor at the national review and if oxygen better joining us now. how does it look to you? >> we are beginning to see signs
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there is a tide and it is moving in a republican direction, not just the fox news paul brief look at some of these contested red states, places like alaska, arkansas, louisiana where the president is very unpopular but candidates have been running good graces, you see those states revert to their natural state, if you will and republicans take a slight lead. blue states like ohio and colorado they are running very strong so it looks likely republicans take majority and perhaps comfortably. martha: the u.s. senate voted if election was held today in the battleground states we have been watching very closely of course, 53% to republicans, 38% say democrats so that would back of the picture you are presenting. obviously nobody knows how all l of this is going to turn out. to be tighter than people realize depending on turnout and
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when people tune in and pay close attention. charlie talked about the ultimate impact of it if indeed it does go republicans on election night. let's take a look at what charles had to say. president obama's agenda died november 2, 2010, when he lost the house. it won't be any debtor november 4, 2014 if he loses the senate. but he goes onto say regain regain the senate would finally give g.o.p. a paternity going to 2016 to dems take the capacity to govern. do you agree? >> yes. it puts the president in an awkward position. the house actually has quite an affirmative agenda. if they die in the senate the president never has to make a difficult choice on anything, keystone, medical device texas because none of these things reach his desk. if republicans take the senate, everything will get passed through congress, republicans
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actually doing something positive in a demonstrable way the media will cover and the president will have to be the obstructionist. martha: about the kansas race, there is a report that says it was botched by republicans and the committee to elect the senate republicans and they left pat robertson a very precarious with internet service in his office with a more basic things to run a campaign. >> kansas is one of the places republicans are looking much weaker than anybody would have expected and ultimately these things go back to the candidate. i would have liked to see him retire. i don't there was a reason to run again, he barely eke out a victory against a very flawed candidate and now you have this odd situation the democrat has dropped out and running against the independent. the question here is if he can define the independent in this race as the democrat and hope
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the natural partisan inclination to take hold over the next four weeks or so. martha: thank you. bill: it does flip you think about what can happen during the lame-duck session about executive order and even after that have a majority republican congress, the stories will be very, very interesting. 11 minutes past the hour. a warning for the pentagon, isis is changing its strategy. >> we're seeing them disperse more to be better concealment, but those are not necessarily bad things because it makes it harder for them to operate. bill: is a time terrific our own strategy? jack keane on that. martha: hurricane force wind tearing through the neighborhoods. bill: suggestions from 43 his
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the wind topping some power lines and blowing transformers greeting quite a light show and all the rain making a mess for drivers, severe weather playing a part in this crash. the highwg up traffic. some cases for miles. martha: former defense secretary leon panetta culling of the white house and the failure to secure 2011 deal that would have allowed us to leave the forces s with the status agreement in place to secure the situation on the ground in iraq. in a new memoir, white house officials like the deal from happening. but the state department pushing back in an interview with phil last hour. look at this. >> the iraqi government would not have mattered, they were not willing to take the steps. , it wasn't going to get through the parliament. it was clear the parliament was not aligned with making this
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happen. >> is that true? fox news matériel is spirit good to have you here. that is the question i have for you, what she said on our air true? >> no, it isn't. is a false narrative the white house has been using for some time. frankly what is really happened here is the general commander in iraq recommended 24,000. the president rejected that number as rejected the surge forces in afghanistan they had recommended. the envoy for the president put on the table negotiations of 10,000. he knew that was not a serious proposal in terms of what was actually required, therefore what he did to cover himself politically with the members of his government, he knew full
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well there is not a small country in the world united states has agreement where troops are present without an immunity agreement. he threw it on the table to get political cover. we never gave him negotiations that he wanted, which was to get the number of over 10,000. that deal broke down. martha: the white house is saying it went back and forth and then it went back and at that moment they said see, he doesn't want us here, goodbye, we're leaving. you say the reason he put that agreement on the table is because he believes no american president would ever make a deal that wouldn't allow for that, so he knew that was his leverage to get more americans with boots on the ground, not less, correct? >> the 10,000 was inadequate. he is not left with the capabilities he truly needs, so he was very wel well-versed on t
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the requirement was. he is in a faria's character, but the fact of the matter is we didn't do right here. everybody was close to this knows it. martha: he says in my frustration the white house court needed negotiations but never really let them. officials in contest to endorse an agreement that could reach one but without the active advocacy, he was allowed to slip away. your thoughts on that. >> absolutely true. from generally 2009 when he took over and we got the envoy after the esteemed middle east envoy that we've ever had, he had a different relationship with this government. normal interface with president bush on a regular basis, helping to shape the future of iraq was really the issue.
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now the political process, it was hands-off iraq. none of the negotiations needed to move the political process forward took place. he goes into the negotiations frustrated already by this relationship he has with this new administration we comes to the conclusion doesn't want any part of iraq. martha: i think it becomes even more present given these new quotes, in both of these cases in iraq and afghanistan military was safe want to succeed in your goal, president obama of having a stable situation on the ground that allows the united states to back out, you need a certain number of forces on the ground to protect the peace that we have built there. i don't leave many you're going to have a huge problem on your hands. now we have a huge powe problemn our hands, correct? >> that is absolutely true. what we needed, we needed i to
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have some airpower that we are using today, when needed intelligence that we are using today and we needed to leave special operations forces there 2 pounds on al qaeda they rose there had as isis which they are now. none of that took place. martha: general, as always, thank you he had martha: tensions rising on the streets of hong kong. what gives is this democracy protest shows no sign of letting up. martha: new calls for some flight restrictions of a case of ebola is diagnosed in dallas. are we doing enough to protect ourselves in this country now? >> the science hasn't changed, this is not like the flu, this is not something where it spreads broadly through the
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martha: it was an adventure people visiting disney california themepark were not expecting to say the least a ferris wheel got stuck about 30 passengers stranded on the 150-foot high ride for two hours in the hot sun. workers had to turn the wheel by hand to get everybody off. nobody was hurt, still not clear what caused the right to stall. bill: again turning violent, this one day after hong kong chief executive promised a peaceful dialogue to fend off commands for his resignation. they want him to step down. tell us about the new clashes,
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david. >> yes. this has been brewing for a while now. large areas of central hong kong have been blocked off for several days and they are getting very unhappy. he seemed to have taken on the protesters. on the hong kong mainland, which is a bustling market area. most worrying aspect if they were joined to try to smash up. the police managed to get between them to stop this from happening now they say if they don't protect these people, they make well call off the talks. bill: what is the likelihood we will see a breakthrough? >> it seems very unlikely there will be a real breakthrough.
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the two sides are very far apart. protesters are looking for full democracy, and the hong kong government is not going to tell the executive to go, they can't make a decision because china will make that decision and no way they're going to backtrack at this time so does need to be some sort of compromise. at this moment we don't even know what the talks going to take place. bill: getting ready for another long weekend. martha. martha: colorado senate race is too close to call with about a month to go before voting could colorado decide which party has control of the senate next year? corey garners went away in on "america's newsroom." bill: and maybe even saving lives. they join us to show us how invention they made will keep the sharks away.
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martha: some of our top stories now as we move throughout the morning. growing concerns airstrikes may be losing their effectiveness. the admiral sang the terrorist group is changing the strategy. >> i want to stress the campaign against them in iraq and syria isn't necessarily about killing individuals. i was a we expect some of them will be killed, but what we are really trying to do is get after their capabilities. martha: the head of the faa visiting the control center damaged in an arson fire last month causing widespread delays. officials working to get it up and running again.
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and mitt romney throwing his support behind mitch mcconnell. attending a private fundraiser. now i go to bill with more on all of this. bill: we have been looking at the board for the past week or so, specifically concerned about the balance of power for the u.s. senate. think about this one right here. if it wants to take the majority of 51 in the senate today, so on the maps, what if, look at the scenario, republicans again feel very good at 55-45. if you win west virginia, if you win south dakota, if you win montana, now you are 48 and need three more pickups. where do you go to get that? maybe arkansas, louisiana, or me they hang onto louisiana. maybe iowa.
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and then you look at estate like colorado, so close right now. at 51, that would do the job for republicans in 2014. here is your matchup. challenged by a house member, right now this race is too close to call. it is razor tight about a point and a half if you put all the numbers together in colorado. with us today, republican colorado, his men, welcome to new york. i am looking at these polls, look at how they shift every day, little movement here and there. how do you su see the state race now? >> people in colorado are ready for less washington in colorado and less colorado in washington.
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we are excited of the message we are spreading in the four corners of our state and the people are ready for some me to be an individual voice instead of a rubberstamp for barack obama. the president himself yesterday stated this policy going to be on the ballot. voting 99% of the time with this president. those failed policies are what colorado is facing. bill: it appears the war on women in 2012 has been well revived in colorado during this race. he is trying to use that against you. the question is how is colorado responded that right now? >> nobody has an hurt more than the women across this country. that is what we are pointing out. bill: why won't at work in 2014? >> people are tired of it. they have seen through it. 340,000 at a health insurance cancelled, thousands of women
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lost the doctor they were promised they could keep. thousands of women cannot afford the insurance they were told would be cheaper if obamacare was passed. they have seen through the falsehood of obamacare, through the lies of this administration. bill: when you look across country, we just showed you on the map what republicans have to do. you can go through 10 more scenarios of how you get to that one. at the moment to use the republicans taking inventory of u.s. senate with you whe win or? >> 32 days a lot can happen between now and then. the people of colorado, this is a state that voted for barack obama in 2008, 2012. this has been one of his top cheerleaders time and time again. he is not even showing up at his own fundraisers because he is so afraid to be seen with the
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president. these are all close right now, republicans have a great opportunity to change things up and the people of this country believe we can do better, that is why they are ready. bill: are you ready for a wave election? >> what is a wave? i believe in what matters is the number 51. going into the majority making sure we can move this. bill: remover 2008 democratic national convention, mile high, the support for president obama was huge. the median house of the domestic client by over $4000. people are working fewer hours in colorado. this idea they were promised a better way forward. facing $4 per gallon gas prices, high food prices, record tuition costs.
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they are working harder than ever and they find opportunity slipping further behind and i'm optimistic about the future. bill: are those the major issues? speak of the people we hear from, those are the major issues. invited mark to come on and talk as well. martha: helping republicans in several key senate races. as he still considers whether or not to make a run for the white house himself in 2016. live in washington on that this morning. good morning. >> jed bush likely potential candidate was actually in north carolina campaigning for the republican candidate hoping to oust the democrat from the tar heel state and later this week in kansas campaigning for republican incumbent a pretty tough race against the incumbent
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and warned winning the senate this year is not enough to get a country on track. watch. >> it will not happen less begin control of the senate and run a campaign in 2016 hopeful and optimistic where people can have a chance of earned success again. >> he says he is still thinking about it, hasn't made up his mind. george hw bush said vacated see was a near certainty. today george bush weighed in himself. >> he and i did a conversation. he of course said i haven't made up my mind. >> florida senator marco rubio is also considering a run for president the matter what was does. he was his protege back in florida when jed bush was the governor of the sunshine state, marco rubio was the house speaker. >> i don't think bush or any but
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would make up their mind based on who else is running and i wouldn't either. the decision has never been about the title, it is worth the best place to further the agenda i believe we need to be furthering to fulfill this patient's potential in the 21st century. in the senate, running for president, it is something i will have to think about. i imagine he's going through the same process right now. >> lot of crossfire. marco rubio got a shot from lindsey graham who said essentially he is a little weak on immigration reform and didn't handle it well meaning they have more reform. he makes a running because of situations like that. all of these candidates have to say something because if they wait much longer they will be in risk of falling behind. martha: that will be really interesting. we will see how crowded it looks come january or february. thank you very much.
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bill: we have a busy month. martha: we dubious be one and it will be a busy night the first tuesday in november. martha: how much more exciting can it gets. bill: so a rough day on the job for these two, 19 stories above the street, a daring rescue is next. martha: the family of the ebola patient in dallas now locked in their apartment under armed guard. is this over the top or are we not cautious enough? we will the basis fair and balanced coming up. >> what we're doing is topping it in its tracks. we are identifying anybody who may have had contact with the patient monitoring each and every one of them for 21 days and the moment they show any symptoms that could be ebola, testing them to make sure doesn't spread further.
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have you from downtown oakland california firefighter repels from the roof that you harness to the window watchers, they were stranded for quite some time. lifted to safety, a problem may have caused equipment to bust. martha: multiple ebola cases ramping up efforts to restrict flights from africa to the united states from the specific targeted countries have another american has contracted the deadly virus. nbc news cameraman getting sick while covering the story as we learn more about the liberian national hospitalized in dallas, thomas duncan. but cdc director says there is no way to just stop americans from traveling. >> i wish we could get to throw risk by sealing off the border, but we can't. the only way zero risk in this country is by controlling it in africa. until that happens, americans may come back, others who have a
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visa may come back. martha: both are fox news contributors and we are approaching this from a political perspective this morning in terms of the security and the safety of the people in this country. what do you think? other countries have made some restrictions on flights coming in from liberia, nigeria, is that a wise thing to do? >> let me just echo that we are coming to this, i'm not want to try to play a dr. on television. i listen to that quote from the cdc official and it makes some sense to me, we need to make sure we're getting people relief efforts over there. people have the right to come back into this country, but i am wondering is at least worth while looking at trying to restrict the number of
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commercial flights that come into the red states these countries in western africa. we need to be looking at those questions through a prism of what is the best way to minimize the risk to the united states and not worry about whether he might have offended someone. >> i largely agree with everything he says. i'm not sure people can fly as easily to heathrow or get on a flight they are or jfk or any other airport in the country, so don't know how practical it is to prevent this from happening. i agree it is worth exploring that the end of the day we have to take a look at how we can help address it because if you don't address it, there is no way we can address it worldwide. >> it has to be addressed in west africa and we have to do everything we can in terms of vaccinations as well because that creates the best scenario for the world at large. when you look at the way this is handled in dallas and the fact
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this man was not questioned probably at the hospital and you have parents say they don't want their kids to go to that school where the children also exposed or attending, have not been given information. i really understands at least we think we understand the way this is transmitted but it boggles my mind concerning affect schools across this country, many of them close when there are snowflakes in the sky because they're concerned of the legal liability and what will happen if a bus turns over. it amazes me this school didn't say that's just shut down for 10 days, assess the situation, have everybody contained. we will send your homework by e-mail and we may tack on a couple. >> i think there is a panic factor, you don't want if you are an official in government at any level, you don't want to
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necessarily feel panic when it is needless to do so. and so i am sympathetic to the people making these decisions, i just think it is incumbent on our government officials to get at every level to make sure they are quelling panic because i don't think panic is necessarily called for here. martha: what i'm reacting to the disproportion of panic. everything literally shuts down. i am wondering why until we understand exactly these children could have 21 days. obviously it is very harsh transmit. why not err on the side of caution is the question i am raising. >> i agree with you. my understanding is ebola is transmitted in bodily fluids. my kid and his friends will lick each other nonstop.
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we could also don't want to panic, but as a mom i am sure i would not be sending my child's preschool. of course not. you cannot blame the parents for being over precautions. it may not be medically necessary but as parents we sometimes overreact for the safety of the kids. >> i going to close down schools for 21 days? >> i might. i know it doesn't make sense but the peace of mind of the parents involved. >> you don't create a panic. i think those families are panicked enough because they are not getting enough information. we will see where it goes. thank you very much. eric: this new fallout about ebola in our country. the folks living with the many brought the disease into dallas
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are now under arm to quarantine. authorities used the word chaos to describe what is going on down there. we will have the very latest from turkey. and as a radical islamic terrorists closing on that syrian town you're the turkish border and there are new fears of a possible massacre there. new job numbers are out, claiming they show an improving economy but what do the numbers really mean as we face the midterms. all that coming up at the top of the hour. bill: father and son team to keep sharks away. how in the world does this work? here live next. >> after one particularly frightening day the water was really spooky. i said enough, it is time to do something about this, we started researching.
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bill: meets the father and son team trying to prevent shark attacks pretty simple device to keep the shark at bay. they are a father and son and are with me now. you have one on each wrist. before we get into how it works my gut tells me had a bad experience. what happened. >> i grew up on the water my whole life i have had numerous spooky experiences as an avid surfer even my best friend bit by a shark i thought for years or is got to be something we can do to reduce people's chances of attack to my dad and i put our heads together and here we are with you today. bill: how do they work? >> they work by interfering with a shark electric sense.
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have the most sensitive electric sense and animal kingdom. so the magnetic technology interferes with the sense akin to having a very bright flashlight shines on the shark size it is unpleasant for it but doesn't harm it in the shark willfully once it encounters that magnetic field. bill: people have to be going come on now. >> of course they do. we were very concerned about that as well. we wanted to make sure did work so we worked with the science to patent this technology and recently we jumped in the water after chumming for sharks tested again. we will going to put our own bodies on the line and we did it. bill: you tested this in? >> we did test it with sharks we attracted and we were feeding. bill: what was it like to work father and son?
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>> nathan and i have always been very close this was an opportunity to spend more time together and create something we think is really cool and will be helpful for people to get rid of their fear and help the sharks. we have had a great time. bill: we will see how people react to it. you look like brothers. well done. they'rthere in charleston, south carolina. good luck. >> thank you. martha: u.s. economy hitting a milestone. this u.s. economy finally getting back on track or are we fund the effects of the recession? s on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer.
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harder to find it. thank you very much, police. they were reunited. thank you for being with us this week. have a great weekend. bill: enjoy the weekend. martha: bye, everybody. we'll see you here monday. shannon: a fourth american an nbc cameraman comes down withcoing -- covering the story in africa. the family that was first diagnosed with ebola here in the u.s. is under armed guard. i'm shannon bream. eric: i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. they are inside the dallas apartment after ignoring requests by authorities to stay home. they're monitoring them for any sign of the ebola virus. they're trying to determine how to handle thomas duncan's clothes and bedding safely. his sweaty towels and dirty sh
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