to his family. shannon: three miles? wow. okay. all right, we're going to keep up -- eric: wish a motorist -- shannon: i'm surprised someone didn't stop. erik. eric: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> i'm kimberly guilfoyle, here today sandra smith, harris faulkner, key p ten powers and we welcome back today's hashtag one lucky guy, fox and friends cohost brian kilmeade. you don't get an introduction like that on your show. >> not like that. so what have you been doing? >> we do a show every day, just waiting for you to come back. >> let's do the show. >> we're going to see if you live up to your reputation of excellence, i mean, you know, take a deep breath. >> okay. >> because right now new questions being raised about the response to the first case of

ebola diagnosed on u.s. soil as we await an update from the cdc in atlanta. this as a family of ebola patient thomas duncan, confined to their dallas apartment under armed guard after they reportedly refused an order to not leave the premise, and the cdc confirming that a family member of duncan's called them on sunday complaining the hospital where he'd gone days before wasn't taking his case seriously enough. and that's not all. at last report that apartment where the liberian national was staying still has not been sanitized. his soiled sheets and dirty towels still there five days after he was rushed back to the hospital because health authorities have had trouble finding a cleanup crew. meantime, as duncan remains in isolation, health authorities in texas screening as many as 900 people -- 100 people he may have come in contact with since he flew to america two weeks ago. but the cdc says it believes

only a few of those people may have had the type of contact that can spread the virus. meantime, there's word of another, of other patients with possible ebola symptoms in washington, d.c., in utah and in hawaii. where do we take this story from here, brian? >> i tell you what, surface hawaii goes -- as far as hawaii goes, we asked the head of the cdc twice today, only worried about texas. they didn't say there's no problem. we haven't heard anything, we would have heard it by now. to me, can anything work? the president did the right thing a couple weeks ago, goes down and says, listen, what is the issue, are we handling it? the answer is, yes, we are handling it. turns out there's minimal chance of this spreading. turns out, it is spreading. was anyone honest with us? no. was this guy honest in liberia? no. did he go to the hospital and did he say i'm pretty sick? yes. did they tell him to go home? yes. so one by one by one this failure, failure, failure. at stake is life and death.

>> humans to tell the truth and humans to diagnose and humans to assess, it's going to be fraught with difficulties. you mentioned washington, d.c., this has just been released from howard university spokesperson, we can confirm that a patient has been admitted to the university hospital in stable condition following travel to nigeria and presenting symptoms that could be associated with ebola. we have activated the appropriate protocols. it goes on. our medical team continues to evaluate and monitor progress in close collaboration with the cdc and the department of health. so the circle widens. we'll have to see if this person tests positive, but it brings up all the issues of what you're talking about. we need to talk honestly with facts. >> i talked to a doctor this morning who said, no, we can't with 100% rule out this cannot be spread airborne. and i think that's the biggest problem, there's still so much uncertainty surrounding this disease, so much that we still don't know.

for people to speak out, including the cdc, so definitively on this disease, that, i think, is a scary thing. because we need to exercise the utmost precaution. not be scared and not run for the hills and not cause chaos, but we need to admit that we don't know everything about it. >> sandra, real quick, i want to talk to you about the commerce aspect of this. a lot of people are saying if we can't be sure, doesn't the government have an obligation to protect the citizens of this cub perhaps by -- this country by halting flights? >> they're not yet. the cdc has made it very clear that by law airlines can stop a passenger from flying if they do show, in this case, signs of ebola. but look at this man -- >> check the wrong box. >> look at what happened with this man. he was in the incubation period. he wasn't yet showing outward symptoms. >> he checked the wrong box or he lied. >> you know, the flight that he took came from europe -- >> but he originated from africa. >> but not on the same airline,

so how are they supposed to know? >> great point. >> there's no way to know, they think he's leaving there europe -- >> and he knew he'd been in the company of a woman who had died and had helped another yes man transfer -- gentleman transfer her, and the gentleman died. >> kirsten, you brought up a good point, no more flights from nigeria or lie -- liberia, they'll go to brussels and go from there. >> i'm very bothered by the fact they can't find a clean-up crew. how is that even possible? >> they showed up, but they didn't have the right contract. >> i mean, this should have beed be prepared for. >> i wonder about the nbc cameraman because he has a medical reporter with him. i'm sure she's educating him on don't touch -- >> yeah. >> so i'm wondering how did he get it? >> well, he was covering it and just to send a shout out, i know we're on different networks, but we're all here at the same cause, we're doing journalism. god bless those guys because

dr. schneiderman hats got to come back -- has got to come back and be quarantined for 21 days. he was supposed to join her as the second or third team member out there. she's been covering this so that we could see the story. but, yeah, this gets complicated. >> fearlessly going right into the center of all of this to try and bring the truth and bring information to the public. >> we've got to pretend that this is katrina. there's got to be a central command, everyone's got to answer -- >> and meanwhile, self-accountability. tell people you're not feeling well, wash your hands -- >> be honest. >> take care of yourself, your family and report any somes. the latest jobs numbers are out for september, the labor department saying 248,000 jobs were added last month, pushing the unemployment rate down to 5.9%, the lowest that it's been since july 2008. in spite of that, fox news polling shows just 43% of voters say that they feel the economy's getting better while 43% say it's getting worse. and on a personal level, that same polling finds just 24% of

americans feel their family is better off now than it was in 2008. while 28% say they're family is worse off. kirsten, you're going to have to try to make some sense of this for me. >> can you? >> so the unemployment dropped from 6.1 to 5.9%. headline number appears to be very good. however, when americans are asked, they just don't feel much better. >> well, it's great that it's dropped, but it's still a pretty high unemployment number, right? i mean, i don't think this means that business is booming and everybody has jobs, and i think there's also, you know, wage growth is pretty stagnant as well, so that speaks to how people feel about their income and whether they have enough money to pay for, pay their bills. and so i think as long as wages are stagnant, people -- regardless of what the jobs are doing -- are going to -- >> great point. so if they're earning less, they're not able to spend as much, and they're not affording the lifestyle that they had before. brian, there's also the factor of the unemployment rate can

sometimes come down when people stop looking for work. okay? >> right. >> because the unemployment rate, obviously, looks at those that are actually actively looking for work. >> right. i mean, the economic geniuses are on the fox business channel, and they don't like me, so i can't really get to there. [laughter] i'm only killing. you like me. they talk about participation, and they talk about people giving up, and they also say factor in the unemployment's been extended week after week after week, and there's food stashes which gives you a certain threshold. things change when they absolutely have to. do they absolutely have to if you're getting unemployment, if you're getting food stamps to pay your bills? does that raise the standard of a job you would expect because you already have a threshold of an income that's community based? >> it's a good point. because you're lacking some kind of catalyst -- >> kimberly, i have to assume that this is going to, you know, play into the hand possibly of democrats come elections that we are seeing an actual drop in that big headline rate that

everybody puts on the cover of the newspaper. >> oh, absolutely. this is going to be the top of the order for the domestic policy -- >> but not if you don't feel it, kim bearlerly. if you -- kimberly. >> and there are fox news polls that back up your point, lucky guy, that say people don't feel they're better off, they still have serious concern about the future, about the economics of the cup. but right now that is the only card the democrats can play because of everything else that's going on. >> last word. >> real quickly, i know that part of that statistic was 47% feel the same, so i scratch my head at that because really either side, republicans can work with that and say, well, that's because it didn't get better, and democrats can say, you know, it didn't get any worse. >> it's all about the spin. >> well, if we're not earning as much as we were before, it's still a tough type l for americans. -- time for americans. hillary clinton's new granddaughter already in the political spotlight, and her grandmother put her there using the infant in a speech on women empowerment. is it okay for her to use the newborn to gain political

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democratic party as we learn about comments senator mark pryor of arkansas reportedly made at a private fundraiser. he was responding to something a donor said about senate majority leader harry reid. according to audio obtained by the washington free beacon, the donor blamed reid for congress' low approval rating to which pryor replied, quote: i think possibly the best thing that could happen to this institution would be if mitch mcconnell gets beat and harry reid gets replaced. we're told he then suggested chuck schumer of new york or mark begich of alaska should take his place. what do you think. >> >> well, begich is in trouble. he's in the fight of his life, one of the three senators listed in politico who are most likely, all of a sudden it's tilting away from them in a red state where he's a democrat. i just feel as though for america harry reid's been the worst leader possible. you have 300 bills from the house, whether you love them or hate them, you just block them, you refuse to do things, you use

your time on the floor to rip a candidate like mitt romney who he's never really met, when you say the koch brothers are the worst thing to happen to america, i think that's irresponsible. i understand senator pryor's frustration. he doesn't think the leadership is good at all, and he also knows that harry reid has actually won that election. so i think that senator schumer would, he has already shown that as much as he's a democrat, true blue democrat, i think he's already shown he reaches across the aisle more. >> kimberly, do you think chuck schumer would be that much different? i have to say there are a lot of democrats who feel this way about reid and even were hoping he would lose to schumer -- >> i'll tell you why, because he's a very polarizing figure, and they feel there's a stalemate, a lack of, you know, kind of traction to move forward with things that they would like to, that they might be able to get some con consensus, some bipartisan approval because he is so contentious. and the way he behaves, his

rhetoric, his talking points, they are not inviting or opening. it's always demonizing somebody like the koch brothers x people get tired of those silly tactics after a while. >> uh-huh. i mean, do you -- this also strikes me as something that maybe would be said by somebody who's running in a very red state -- >> yes. >> not very popular, although i think the donor, this was this new york, so, sandra, it's not -- >> i would turn this around. >> okay. >> do you think that playing the favor of democrats is looking like it's an honest conversation coming from a democrat about what actually needs the happen for the partiesome. >> well, i think this plays well for mark pryor, and i thit i plays -- i think it plays well for anyone in a red state. >> what are the rules, kirsten? can she turn around -- [laughter] is that allowed? >> see how that works? >> that was like a gymnastics move. [laughter] >> brian, are you questioning my authority? >> we like to spread it around. keep it on politics though.

her granddaughter is only days old -- five -- but hillary clinton has already found a way to add the newborn to her usual stump speech about empowering women. at a women's networking convention in miami, the former secretary of state opened and closed her speech with mentions of baby charlotte saying, quote: i think my granddaughter has just as much god given potential as a boy born in that same hospital on the same day. she is the most perfect, most beautiful, smartest five-day-old you will ever know. and when one woman shouted you look beautiful, mrs. clinton laughed, and said i think it is a grandmother glow. >> oh. that's lovely. >> she didn't get a lot of traction if you don't count the money that was made from the book "hard choices," so i'm curious, does a softer side play better politically? >> my first instinct was what took so long? i mean, for her to use -- [laughter] i guess they had to get her out of the hospital. i'm not saying it -- i can't say a grandmother proud of a granddaughter is insincere.

for her to bring it up this early tactically is not, it's not strong. >> oh, she's excited. i mean, come on, she's a grandma. like grandmas -- >> she should be excited. >> best thing that's ever happened to her, youtube what i mean? -- you know what i mean? grandmas love their grandchildren. >> you going to be impressed with me, but i can't quite fight her -- [laughter] >> whoa! >> the wrong icon. >> yes. >> give it to me, i'll read it out loud. >> here's the deal, on her description because i'm following hillary clinton, all these amazing things, but it doesn't say grandmother. >> really? >> she needs someone like you in her life the say, look, mrs. clinton, can you please update and say grandmother, right? [inaudible conversations] >> yes. >> listen, i -- >> something negative about being a grandmother? >> no, i love it. >> we do that? go to the judges.

>> i think it's a tear question, sandra, politically could it backfire? >> honestly, you're going to ask ask -- i have all the sympathy in the world for her wanting to talk about her granddaughter in any possible place that she can because that's her just being a grandmother. i give her a total pass. it would be difficult not to talk about. i mean, she's a grand ma. >> does it help her politically? >> >> maybe. it's going to show a softer side of hillary clinton. it makes her very real. she's going through a life experience that -- >> okay, got it. >> you know, i can't see -- bear with me, i apologize. okay, hillary clinton, this is her official page. wife, mom, lawyer, women and kids advocate, flor, first lady of arkansas, flotus, u.s. secretary of state, dog owner, hair icon, pants suit officionado, glass ceiling

cracker -- very clever, very cute. >> she needs to update it. >> 2.1 million followers. >> she needs to take some of that out though, it's too long. >> is it okay? i just want to say this, i just want to be a little unpopular. if i'm a political strategist, my sleeves are up and i have a pencil in my ear trying to figure out a strategy, if you're running against a 42-year-old that reminds you of new, change and energetic, is it right to say -- is it a good political thing to say running out a grandmother against somebody -- >> no. >> -- who is new, represents change -- >> well -- >> and optimism. >> it depends on what people want. some people say we just did young and new, and maybe we want somebody with experience. >> i like it. i think it's great. >> grandmother? >> i love it. i can't wait to be a grandmother. >> really? [laughter] >> your son is how old? >> he just turned 8. >> you have so much time. >> i better be careful, right? >> that's an interesting

perspective though. [laughter] yeah, we got fresh and new. >> that's the problem with president obama, he's too new and fresh. >> that's the republican -- >> you're new and fresh too. >> more political strategy if you didn't hear her mention her granddaughter for another -- >> no, she'd be criticized. >> exactly. >> yeah. >> the man who served as president obama's defense secretary, leon panetta, is saying his former boss could have gotten a deal the leave troops inside iraq but just didn't want to. the furious reaction from the state department to those words. and did the great recession cause a great big baby bust? why so many young women are saying no to having a little bundle of joy. maybe for good. the implications of this. ♪ ♪ before earning enough cash back from bank of america

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♪ ♪ >> blaming the president for dropping the ball in iraq. in excerpts from his new memoir published by time magazine, former cia chief and defense secretary leon panetta saying that despite the administration's claims, iraqi leaders privately wanted some american forces to stay behind, but panetta writes, quote: >> that claim getting this pointed response from state department spokeswoman earlier on "america's newsroom." >> the facts of what happened at the time were that, one, iraq is a sovereign country. iraq had to make a decision, and the iraqi leadership at the time that they wanted to have forces there, that they wanted to have a troop presence there. there were political challenges,

sure, but they clearly did not x. the second is we didn't have the troop protections that we needed. i don't think anyone would have let our troops stay without those protections. >> all right. jen psaki, what do you think? >> well, the problem here is that we're going to have to believe that she knows more about the situation in iraq than leon panetta, right? i mean, because she's disagreeing with him and basically saying that's not what happened. >> i don't know if we need to -- >> what? >> you're asking us to -- >> no, i said -- no. i'm saying that that's what we're expected to believe. >> okay. >> you know, and that it's not believable. >> oh, good. >> secretary of defense, cia guy. >> did you not here what i just said? [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> talking like she knows more finish. >> right. >> -- and she's correctly opposing -- directly opposing the account of leon panetta. if she was opposing a conservative columnist, you could say maybe whatever, but it's leon panetta. >> right. >> here's the thing, if you

agree with jennifer psaki, then why did president obama work so hard behind the scenes to oust al-maliki when he had to be ousted, and now all of a sudden we're able to put 1600 troops there when we had to. if you want to pull out of iraq and run for re-election, you pull out of iraq. but you cannot say one day you tried everything you can to be able to have a residual force but couldn't come to a deal, the next minute say it was our choice to pull troops out of iraq. you can't have it. now you have leon panetta saying something that martin dempsey said a week ago, and that is it was generally considered among military circles that we recommended a residual force in iraq. >> well, that seemed like the right thing to do and now it also seems to be the thing that should have been done. we're very aware of the situation, and i believe panetta, that he knew it and did. he's the commander in chief, he chose not to, so now there are repercussions. he can't continue to blame bush or anybody else.

when you come into the presidency, you inherit the history, all of it. >> right. >> we popped up a map, and i know our viewers saw it, it's all the isis-controlled cities and just how big -- >> uh-huh. it's alarming. >> yep. >> so we can talk about how we got here, but i want you to look at that. we're here now. and i'm curious, you talked with former president bush this week. >> yep. >> and you had talked with him back in 2007. as he looks at this map, because i know you showed him the same thing, what is his perception on where we are now? >> he says it's not over. you've got to get it back. in 2007 he was riding high after the surge. should we have been this with the tactic tried early, and democrats had a strong argument. now after the surge worked despite other people saying it wouldn't, then it's pretty obvious we should have left troops there. he said my recommendation would have been to leave troops there. >> now what? >> now what? i think there's going to be more 600 troops in the uae air force to get us back on solid ground.

i've talked to six generals over the last two and a half weeks, every one of them says we're going to need ground troops on the ground fighting, every one of them. >> [inaudible] >> well, if you could tell me another capable force -- >> they need to be great. >> yeah. they need to be part of the coalition that did it the first time. that's what they need. uae, saudi arabia. i think egypt is the most underutilized ally we have right now. >> by the way, kirsten, jen psaki's got a lot of criticism over her handling of being the spokesperson. how do you think she handled this? >> i think she did the best she could do with what she's dealing with. you know, she's trying to make lemonade out of lemons. it's just not a terribly persuasive argument when ur up against someone -- when you're up against someone like leon panetta. >> or being interviewed by megyn kelly. the great recession may cause a baby bust, more than 150,000 american women who have lived through the recession say they'll never have children.

or at least will wait until they're 40, especially if they were in their early 20s in 2008. early on in the recession. well, that could mean some 427,000 fewer children will be born over the next few decades. think about that. experts say women cut back on having babies when unemployment rises and feel they just can't afford to start a family. sandra? >> well, you know what this makes me think of is household wealth which is still below where it was before the recession began. and women tend to not marry or have children until they feel they're in a sound, secure financial situation. and this, kimberly, really tells me the true sentiment of americans, particularly american women and how they just still don't can feel comfortable in the economic environment in this country. >> the proof is in the one in the oven -- is in the bun in the oven. they're not feeling optimistic. this seems to be, i hate to say

it, but smart, logical thinking about responsible parenting and family planning. >> you know, kimberly, what's interesting is i've talked with women over the age of 35 who have waited to start a family, and they tell me, well, the leading reason i decided to go ahead and get married is to start a family. women are not even going to jump across that threshold if they don't feel like they're going to have kids. i mean, if their momentum has really gathered on the notion of, well, i have this guy, i'm going to get married now so we can have a kid -- >> true love. [laughter] >> is look, i'm just repeating what i've been told here, kind of a nonscientific study, but if they're not going to have children, then they may decide they're not going to get married. >> you're talking about women 35 or older? i think that's self-selecting group. i think younger people are probably not in that same mentality. i don't think they're only getting married just for babies. i think they're getting married to have a partner to share their life with. >> right.

>> as well they should. >> yeah, of course. but i'm just say ising, i say this as a person who married after 35, you know what i mean? i just think there are some women who lead super independent lives and do start to make this calculus as they get older. i just don't think -- you know, i think more women are making different decisions. >> but about the choice to not have children, recent polling has also revealed that people today don't believe their children are going to have a better future than the one they have, the life they have today. >> right. i can't believe someone could project into the future and say i'm worried about the size of our deficit, i don't think i'm going to procreate anymore. [laughter] all i would say, i can't speak for women why they get married -- >> all right, let's hear it. >> i know you guys did this topic, marriage is down across the country, but i will say this, from my personal perspective, i have never met anyone who says i wish i didn't have kids. once you have them, it's the best thing ever, and i just think if everyone's so caught up like i was in my 20s about

economics, i think it matters very little. >> aww -- [laughter] >> we have to keep our -- those are the rules on "outnumbered." we have one body between us. [laughter] >> nobody believes kirsten is over the age of 35. >> there you go. [laughter] >> yes. marriage is possible before 35, after 35? [laughter] >> new reports of fighting in syria near the turkey border. isis reaching the outskirts of one strategy town d strategic town. and one colorado school district is considering some changes to the ap history curriculum to promote patriotism. what's wrong with that? and will it really change the way kids learn? and right after this show head to the -- you know what? >> head to the weapon if you can. >> it's friday. ♪ ♪ you do a lot of things great.

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>> in colorado protests including teachers and students walking out -- it's been going on for days now. some denver area parents and kids claim the school board is trying to influence political views, but the board is not backing down on a proposed review of the advanced placement history course. potential changes would include promoting patriotism and downplaying civil disorder. the board voting 3-2 to expand membership on two curriculum review committees to include parents, students and administrators. brian, so the idea is to focus on certain points of history, as i understand it, and build up the patriotic spirit. >> i think it's awesome. i think that, i think that one of the -- i know everyone as a kid you're better in math, you're better in science, social studies, english. the one thing i find almost everyone has an interest in is where you're from and how it's taught. if you're taught the right way, you're passionate about history. i think most kids would love to

hear stories about our past if they feel as though that's slipping away when jay leno or jimmy fallen does these things in the -- fall loan does these things in the street, they don't understand what the civil war was out, i think that's an issue. this new board gets voted in, decides to make a move, why is that bad? they're not saying vote republican, they're saying vote america. >> yeah. and what you're talking about with the civil war, that's one of the areas they want to focus on. sandra, your thoughts. >> i'm definitely against anybody pushing political opinions on students in school, but i don't think this does that. >> move i don't know.org is accusing them of that -- moveon.org is accusing them of that. >> yeah. i really fear the day when we can't stand up and say the pledge of allegiance before class begins. i know i did it before school started every day, and i know a lot of classrooms have stopped that. it reminds you who we are as a country, republican, democrat, independent, we're all one country, and we stand for one belief. >> i love it. >> that's an interesting

juxtaposition. we've had discussions about the pledge, kirsten, and people always say, well, but that's different that be having a discussion about celebrating -- than having a discussion about celebrating your country with what you study. >> well, i think the problem is the idea that they want to downplay civil disorder. civil disorder is part of our history, and i think it's something you actually can be patriotic about, that we have, you know, the feminist movement, the civil rights movement, we have major movements in this country, and they should be covered. and i think that's the complaint. it's not that -- first of all, the idea that they aren't, they have to already be teaching about the civil war. >> we hope. >> i mean, that's just, you know, i think that's just basic. they need to know the basic history of the cup. but it shouldn't be whitewashed so they just think, oh, we all got here, and nothing bad ever happened. >> i didn't crack any colorado textbooks, but i would say i cannot believe how basic and with lack of detail and insight the history has changed. i understand you've got to

change math, you've gotnew ways. >> you mean overall? >> overall. i think that's what they're doing. they're changing things that shouldn't have been changed. >> meaning it was good while it was -- as it was? >> when we were learning about the country. >> why are you trying to fix it or alter it? >> yeah. to give yourself a sense of perspective. and when people voted and put together that council, aren't they saying they want change? if they're saying don't have protests, don't acknowledge the marches against vietnam, sieve rights, that concern civil rights, that's a huge issue. >> what do you think's behind? >> i think overall people underestimate how much interest there is in america's past among educators and just to cite my book in particular -- >> oh. >> people who are interested in my book because they love the country -- >> what's the title again? >> paperback out in three weeks. thank you very much. [laughter] no, but as people who are so into our history and they couldn't believe they didn't learn it. >> one mother stood up, she's

the mother of two kids, said this is america. stop calling us names when we exercise our rights. >> all right. so breaking news changes everything. kimberly got us off earlier this hour on what was happening in dallas, texas. that ebola patient has been taken out. so now we want to go back to the story because this is breaking news. there is now a large hazard materials truck that has just arrived on scene at the apartments there in dallas, texas. and, again, this is where a family has been told they cannot leave the premises. they're under armed guard, as we understand it. local authorities are making sure they don't try to leave that apartment building before they figure out whether anybody is high risk in terms of having been exposed to this man who we know is very ill right now. he went to the hospital critically ill. they are treating him for ebola. he came from liberia, took a series of flights, landed in dallas to visit relatives, days later got ill, and now they are looking at this apartment building and what they have to do to clean it up.

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to go the distance with you. go long. >> more "outnumbered" in just a moment, but fist let's -- but first let's see what's happening on the second hour of "happening now." >> we'll be taking a look at the hong kong protests as locals pick fights with some of those protesters and nose demonstrators for democracy have rejected talks with beijing after china says those protests are, quote. doomed to fail. and the fighting is intensifying in syria, isis terrorists going on the offensive against kurdish fighters despite the continuing airstrikes. greg talcott is live right there on the border with turkey. and it was 23 years ago today that a little known governor named bill clinton announced he was running for president. now comes word hillary clinton is going on the campaign trail for democrats.

coming up on "happening now," we will talk about the clinton brand and what it all means. >> we will be watching, eric. >> meanwhile, i may be outnumbered, but now it's my turn with this story which i didn't pick, but i can't wait to get into it. [laughter] >> oh, my god. >> what does that even mean? >> we settle down please? i'd like to continue. do you know those viagra commercials showing big, brawny men doing manly things and then the announcer comes on and talks about e.d.? well, the drugmaker is now trying for something different, launching a i new ad campaign starring and focusing more on women. the commercial features middle-aged blonds on beds seductively looking into the camera urging other women to have their man, follow me, talk to his doctor about the little blue pill. >> i think it's genius. >> >> and with the little blue dress on. >> right. [laughter] >> that was a total coincidence. >> you were going to say -- >> so here's the problem,

viagra's worried, they're about to go generic with their product, and a lot of people are not buying it, sales are down. is this an effective thing? >> absolutely. because women will have that talk with their man if they have to. a lot of men might be afraid to initiate that conversation or initiate that -- >> so it's genius. >> so i think it's genius. >> right. shows frustration -- [laughter] >> this is the first time -- >> don't take it personal. >> listen, this is the first time i've looked at four women and they go, not me. [laughter] this is so interesting. a single shot in this show. do you back harris' contention? >> sandra's. >> do you back her contention? >> talking about sex and viagra gets him all befuddled. >> and we still have a minute left. >> i think we're talking about the marketability. that's a different topic. one of our producers was looking at that ad closely before the show, and she said i notice the woman in the picture doesn't have on a wedding ring.

>> oh. >> and, you know, that's a different conversation than what they're talking about, talking with your husband about blah, blah, blah. now you're talking about hooking up and meeting somebody and saying, hey, you know, go get some viagra. >> well, you could be in a long-term or committed relationship -- >> aren't you glad you came to me? >> very good perspective. as an athlete, when you're not doing well, your coach lets you know. >> but you're a team -- [laughter] >> get it away from me. >> got to have open and healthy communication. i would expect man in my life to tell me, i mean, not that this has ever happened, let's spice it up, maybe wear some lingerie. haven't had that talk, but if i was slipping, i would want someone to tell me. and similarly, if i was having a medical issue, you should go to a doctor. perhaps you have low t. >> i've seen those commercials too. >> right. you want to bring couples closer together and not apart, so if there's a vehicle, then i'm all for it. >> that's the guy you might want to have d.

>> somebody you're just dating. >> i think kirsten is silent because she's in a little blue dress. >> i think he makes a good point. >> kirsten, we're not letting you off. [laughter] >> well, i didn't make any point. it's absolutely fantastic. >> purple? >> it must be friday. >> hit the tease. >> brian -- >> i'm going to pull everybody out of this. as we await an update from the centers for disease control and prevention in atlanta, a hazmat truck has finally arrived to clean up that apartment where the texas ebola patient was staying, this as we hear of yet another patient being eyed for possible ebola symptoms in another american city.

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fox news alert. armed guards facing down ebola in dallas. enforcing the quarantine on the family members of the man de diagnosed. >> this is happening now. >> the actions that we took while unusual were appropriate. for the safety of the family as well as the safety of the public. >> ebola lockdown. family members of the first person diagnosed with the virus in america quarantined under armed guard for not following demands