you will hear from some of the folks featured in that documentary. their stories are incredible. that's it for now. this is mike huckabee from new york. stay tuned for "justice with judge jeanine." hello and welcome to jus sis. i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us tonight. ebola, what a mess. no one and i mean no one should be allowed to enter the united states from any west african nation ravaged by ebola and any american citizen who goes there and wants to come home needs to be quarantined for 21 days until we figure out what we're doing. look, we have a real problem. i don't want to hurt anybody. and i'm good with sending

humanitarian aid to those in need. fill up the c-130s with supplies and doctors and do the military transports. but guess what? at a certain point, you take priority over everyone else in the world. and when it comes to the health and security of your family and my family, everyone else takes a backseat. the fact that we're even having this discussion is insane. we're told it would be counter productive the economy of liberia to stop flights from coming here. really? another country's economy is not the criteria to determine whether we put our families at risk. and trying not to offend the rest of the world making nice so people won't be angry, or making other countries economically successful and any other politically correct hogwash

coming out of washington be damned. your job is to protect us. take a listen. >> first and foremost i want the american people to know that our experts at the cdc and across our government agree that the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. >> the world is less violent than it has ever been. it is healthier than it has ever been. >> right. and you can keep your doctor and your health care plan. al qaeda's on the run. and isis is not islamic. come along with me and see if what i say makes sense. thomas duncan, ebola man, lied to come here. why did he need to come here? did he know that after transporting a dying woman refused by a liberiian hospital and sent home to die that he was then at risk? he is not a u.s. citizen.

how is it that he can be granted a visa to come here in a matter of hours? and if our hospitals are all ebola trained, why after he told them that he came from liberia did the dallas hospital send him home for yet another three days, during which time he became more contagious, vomiting around the apartment complex and exposing kids to the virus, who then go to school? and i should feel safe when the hospital today actually admitted that they lied when they said they didn't know he was from liberia. where is that so-called ebola checklist that asks if you have travelled to an ebola-infected country and why did the nephew have to call the cdc because, quote, the hospital again was not taking the illness seriously? we're so prepared that officials

didn't even attempt to sterilize that apartment for five days. and if we're so damn ready for this, why did the locals say not to worry, only 12 or 18 people were in direct contact with him when dallas county said there were 80 and the cdc said 100. and i should feel safe when under a national spotlight relatives sharing the same bathroom refuse to remain in isolation and instead send their children to school with yours. and why were men cleaning the vomit outside the apartment in t-shirts, sweeping the waste into the dallas sewer system? isn't there a protocol for destroying and transporting ebola waste? right now thousands of liberiaens come into this country every year. why? take a look at this map of

africa. those countries highlighted deny entry to citizens of ebola ravaged countries. and take a look at this image of a liberiaen soldier enforcing a quarantine so their own countryman don't come in contact with them. yet our government minimizing the danger and also the means of transmission. stop telling us it's just about the exchange of bodily fluids. why didn't you tell us that the virus can last for hours on a surface like a doorknob or a counter top at the local coffee shop? and the head of the cdc, when asked if there should be more rigorous airport screening says this -- like any intervention, there are upsides and downsides. there are a lot of downsides. you slow travel. you end up costing people money.

who's going to get screened and who's going to train them? and if you have a positive, where are you going to bring them? if you have a positive, where are you going to bring them? you're the head of the cdc. are you stupid? so you'd rather put us in danger. you're the head of the cdc. you find a place to put them and treat them. and white house spokesman josh earnest says the screening procedures are in place at our border and people are screened as soon as they get here. really? you're kidding, right? what's that? you're saying that because you don't want people to panic? you don't want us to panic? how about i don't want us to die. tell us the truth for once! that's my open.

-- from the dallas morning news joins us where is the family who lived in that same apartment with duncan? >> last i heard we don't know where they are at the moment. yesterday they were moved from the apartment where he fell ill and where they were confined for several days to an undisclosed gated house somewhere in dallas county. i'm sure people are trying to find that house right now. >> they're in a private home? >> that's what we were told. the public was told they were moved to a private home. >> is the family's apartment the only one in that building that's being quarantined? >> as far as i can tell. it's the only one that has a guard in front of it or had a guard making sure that nobody knocked and nobody came out. i've heard there are other people who stayed with him while he's ill who have semivoluntarily confined themselves to their apartments

in the neighborhoods but we don't know where those are. >> how angry that people that he was sent home from the hospital and vomiting all over the parking lot in the apartment complex. >> i haven't confirmed that report. but will there are a lot of people who think that happened. if you are talking about dallas generally. the closer you be to the epicenter of this thing, the more nervous people are. i'm in downtown dallas, where i live, people joke casually about it or not talking about it at all or are in a calm wait and see. when you -- >> avi selk thank you for joining us. with me is the director of the center for immigration studies. why doesn't the united states have a travel ban on ebola-infected countries. >> i have no idea. like you said in your opening

why are we having this discussion? it seems to me it should have been the first thing we did. it's not a silver bullet or going to fix everything but it's the first thing we should do. and these are three small countries, liberia, sierra leone, guinea. it has no real effect on us if we do it. we're not banning travel from, say, canada which is a big country next door. these are three little countries prohibiting travel from these places has no effect on us accept with this disease it may protect us. the idea that we are even having the debate is absurd. >> and the quote from the white house said it would be counter productive to the economy of liberia. when the risk is to americans, i mean, what is it make you think? >> i mean, you know, the thing is that president obama is not president of the world. he's president of the united states. and i think there are too many

people in this administration and, you know, in government in general who see themselves as kind of citizens of the world and their responsibility is to everybody everywhere, not to the people who are actually put them there and pay their salaries. that's the point of the government is to protect the american people first. >> all right. and tell me about the visa process. it's my understanding that if you're in liberia you can get a visa in no time. >> well, i looked it up on the state department website. you do have to submit the application a couple weeks ahead of time. but in a maximum of two business days you get the visa. the interview is two minutes. one minute, something like that. you interview with the person. so you know, it's not all that big a deal to get the visa. this guy got it. and in fact, from a liberiaen newspaper report, it looks like he got it and then he quit his job intending to come to the united states. so i mean, there should be no

visas issued and no travel from that country to the united states, period, until the outbreak passes and then we can start it up again. look, judge, a democratic congressman, congressman grayson from florida two months ago wrote to the state department saying we need to ban travel from these countries pronto and they didn't do it. this is a common sense obvious step that this administration simply refuses to consider. >> do you buy the argument that the administration is making that although they say that you know, these people are screened once they come through the border which is hogwash to me but they say there is plenty of opportunity for ebola to come here and therefore closing off this country to liberiians who would travel here doesn't >> that's absurd. if there were that many opportunities how come this is a guy -- this is the first time

we've seen it happen. and if we had had the travel ban in place when this democratic florida congressman demanded it two months ago, this guy wouldn't with here either. it's not like he snuck in from mexico. there are people illegally crossing and being caught but it's this guy wouldn't have been able to come here. he's not a master criminal. he got on a plane and came to the united states. >> and he is here on a visa. assuming he lives, he is in critical condition this evening. assuming he lives and does survive his visa could be revoked and he could be sent back home and lying in liberia according to the president there, and also, you know, from coming here, having lied over there. i mean, could we send him back? >> of course we could. but you know what? i'm betting now and this is on tape so you can hold me to it.

i think we will give him political asylum or something rather than send him home. that's pretty likely. of course we could send him home. he does not have a green card. he is a tourist who lied to get into the united states but i don't think he will go back to liberia. >> and you know, people are saying that this is -- he came here to marry his girlfriend. and yet this is the first time he has been in this country. so you know, you is to wonder what the back story is here. mark krikorian thanks for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> parents up in arms about the failure to act on ebola before it's too late. are you furious about ebola now here in the united states? facebook or tweet me @judge jeanine. of shrimp flavors! like our coconut shrimp bites

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they need to tell us what child it is. because i mean if it was in their class i will be ten times more pissed than i already am. they should tell us who is it. what class are they in? they need to let us know. >> ebola now on our shores and parents frantic that their kids might have been exposed and the white house not considering a travel ban. my next guest is asking the president to impose a travel ban. good evening, congressman, the president said it was, quote, unlikely that ebola would reach the u.s., and now that it has says that stopping travel from ebola ridden countries would be counter productive. counter productive to whom? >> i don't know what he means.

it might work to prevent the spread of ebola. that's why we should ban travel to these three countries from the united states. and not allow people from those countries into the u.s. the law is already there. let's just use the law that we have to prevent more of the outbreak of ebola. i don't see it as counter productive. i think it is productive to do this. >> the law you refer to is 42 us c-section 265 which says that when the surgeon general says that there is a danger of introduction of disease into the united states and it's in the interest of the public health the surgeon general shall have the power to prohibit in whole or part the introduction of persons or property from the countries identified. the law is there and the president will not tell the

surgeon general or vice versa that we've got to stop their entry into this country. what can you and congress do about this? >> we could encourage the cdc director. he has taken over this position from the surgeon general. that what i've asked him to do is tell the president that this is a national health crisis and impose the law that is already in place to ban travel back and forth to these parts of the world, the united states and west africa. and the president doesn't seem to see that this is a serious situation. >> clearly. talking about tom frieden in the cdc, take a listen to this. >> sealing them off first off won't work, second off it will backfire. if we can't get help in there then we're not going to be able to stop the outbreak. >> okay. he's saying if seal our borders to them then we can't get help there. is he kidding?

isn't the issue -- >> i don't understand him either. >> maybe we would be better off with tom jones from down the street handling this. >> i don't see why he and the president don't understand that preventing people that have this infectious disease from coming to the country will probably make americans safer. he doesn't seem to think that. and cutting it off at the border is not counter productive. it's something that we ought to do not let folks in. once they get in, including duncan who lied to get here. came over here for free health care in the best country in the world with medical services and keep him out. would have kept him out and maybe will keep other people out to keep them from spreading this infectious disease through america. makes sense to me and most americans. >> thank you congressman ted

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he goes to the hospital, says he's been to liberia and they send him home with antibiotics. with me now, infectious disease specialist dr. bonn arnot. to me the hospital is responsible for anyone who is sickened after he is sent home. >> you the first one to say it and you're right. i spent 10,000 hours in emergency rooms.

and i would have looked at him and said where are you from? liberia. are you been in contact with ebola patients. you carried several. i'm going to take all of my staff and say anyone who has been near this person, let's stop right here. the fact he is let out of the hospital is inexcusable. it never should have happened. >> today they came back and said we were wrong when we said it was a flaw in the system. that everyone, the doctors and the nurses had that information. did you know that? that happened today. >> i saw that they retracted it. but it's the very first. even if you had 30 seconds with the patient it would be the first obvious patient and the system has failed from the moment he got to the airport there to the moment they picked him up at his house. it failed every step of the way. six or seven where he could have been and should have been stopped.

>> let's talk about the fact, bob, as a parent when my kids were little when school starts every little kid comes home sniffling with a fever or a tummy ache. and then the parents end up getting it. how do you distinguish between the normal flu with flu season coming upon us and the parents are going to be crazy about whether or not ebola is somewhere in the country. >> i have a two-year-old. i've had that same conversation. so bottom line is, you're not going to have any idea. if your child or you has a headache or sore throat and are weak with muscle aches. my older son as all those symptoms right now but it's when you got the diarrhea, and vomiting and bleeding you is enough symptoms to say you have ebola and that's too late. you is to have a clinical suspicion and that's based entirely on do you think you were in contact with someone.

if you don't have contact that's the only real sort of clue. now the good news is that there is a pcr test that takes three to four hours you can know quickly. but there will be thousands of people at emergency rooms with flu or a hangover and not going to have ebola. >> are we prepared? what is the -- antidote? what do we give people if we're concerned or if they have ebola? do we have enough of it? >> so the bad news is it's all supportive care. you give them oral rehydration salt or intravenous fluid to replace the fluid and elect row lites you lost. if you are lucky you get the m zap medication. there is very little of. that bottom line, outside of transfusing blood, there is not much of anything you can do except hope and pray. >> let's talk about the weaponization of ebola people

talking about the fact that you know, we, even our troops can be contaminated with this or that it can be part of biological warfare. >> well, remember, judge, that the whole reason that we have a vaccine track and we have these few medications is because usamrid has classified ebola as a class "a" bioterror agent. here's the distinction. weaponizing that in terms of taking a biological laboratory and having artillery shells that is very sophisticated and hard to do. but a poor man's way of doing that. if you have a terrorist who can get a sick patient and suicide bombers and have them infect themselves with the blood and come to the united states and sit in hospital emergency rooms and go into schools, right now you could take and not weaponize it in terms of the true sort of technical sense of the word. but to spread the virus it's

somethin that could be done tomorrow morning. >> bob arnot thank you for being with us. isis beheads another westerner and shows a 26-year-old american as the next target. can we stop this? and teenaged girls escape the brutal clutches of isis. what happened when they were there? that's next.

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been seen since september 13th. her grandmother says someone knows where hannah is. police have forensic evidence linking a suspect to the death of another virginia tech co ed. now back to "justice with judge jeanine." isis continues on its barbaric mission and beheads british hostage alan henning and poses a 26-year-old american on his knees. and leon panetta holds president obama's feckless foreign policy responsible for the mess that we're in. with me now is james jeffrey. good evening, ambassador. are these air strikes doing any good? >> judge, first of all, it's good to be back.

compared to where we were in june when isis surged across iraq the administration and international community has done an extraordinarily large amount of actions, bombings, diplomatic stuff since that time. but i don't think it's enough right now to push these guys back. we essentially are in a containment phase and even that isn't working in parts of anbar province west of baghdad they're still on the march and they have to be stopped and pushed back. >> what else needs to be done? we have these air strikes and this new coalition. they say turkey is now in with us. and you know, will turkey's entry make a difference? >> all of these steps are important, necessary but not sufficient. lieutenant general dave deptula, a retired air force general who i know well and responsible for the first gulf war air campaign said what we need is a

thunderstorm, not a drizzle of bombs. when saddam hit a town during the first gulf war we put 267 strikes in in three days. in the kurdish citadel in the past week or so we put in less than a dozen. we need to do a lot more very quickly even to stop these guys. and to roll them back it's going to take more than air strikes. >> and obviously, i'm sure you think that you need people, you know, on the ground. there's no question. will turkey put troops on the ground? >> turkey is talking on those lines. but we have to wait and see. the turkish population and the turkish government are very reluctant to go across borders. they're very concerned about mission creep, just as we are. but they are talking about an international no-fly-zone over northern syria and the possibility of turkish troops moving in, in part to protect a

kurdish town under that no-fly-zone umbrella. >> let's talk about iran here for a moment. there is talk of you know, getting iran to join us. why would we give any concessions on nuclear proliferation to iran, which is supposedly already an enemy of isis? so why would we give them any kind of concession? >> i can't answer that question. i would argue against it. first of all, we shouldn't get a nuclear agreement with them if we don't have a major roll back of their nuclear programs and that's still in the cards, frankly. secondly, there's not very much they can do to contribute to the current campaign against isis. if they would try to contribute, the sunni arab states would turn against them and we need them more than iran. iran has much the same philosophy under different conditions as isis. they're part of the problem in the middle east and not the solution. >> i just don't understand how

anybody can think that iran is going to take our side as opposed to another arab country or muslim group. it just makes no sense to me. >> iran, once again, is a bitter enemy of isis. that's a sunni arab -- extremist group that is dedicated to slaughtering shia muslims, including the iranian population. but the question is what kind of middle east do the iranians want? it's not a middle east we can sign up to. so therefore we need to rule this out. we need to bury this. >> ambassador jeffrey, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> a few weeks back we watched the yazidis fleeing to the mountains and there were talk of people throwing their children over so they would not be captured. with me now, bridgette gabriel.

we have another beheading and american lined up. and even worse there are teenaged girls who escaped from isis who are now speaking out. what are they saying about how they were treated when they were kidnapped by isis. but nothing could be worse than a beheading. let's be fair. >> they are talking of horrific stories of treatment of torture and rape and starvation. three girls escaped. two were in one home and another in a separate home but it's they all have the same account. one girl was raped up to six times a day and tortured. the three girls said they were given one meal a day. their treatment was so bad that one of them said one time her capture was given as a gift. he drew blood out of her. and she would say i feel very nauseous. this is the type of torture they went through.

one of the girls tried to commit suicide. one girl hung herself and the others said that those who tried to hang themselves if they were found by the isis fighters they were beaten and that discouraged the others from committing suicide. it's heart wrenching to read their stories. >> is there end to this group's brutality? they're psych paths, sociopaths, what is their story? >> this is how they are treating the girls. they are considered as infidels and spoils of war. they are being given as gifts because, again, they are the property of their capturers. they are the booty of war. in isis' mind as they expand their territories we're going to hear more of these stories. and this is why. it becomes vital, judge, that our government puts pressure on the surrounding countries to

come to the aid of those minorities in the middle east and try to protect the minorities in that region. because let's face it, the minorities are being abused in a horrible way whether they are christians or yazidis or any other religion and they need our help. >> if they are being beaten to try to prevent them from trying to commit suicide as you say one girl did how is it that one of these girls was able to get out so she could tell us this story? >> the girls that werable to escape one went to the friday prayer at the mosque. they used a many knife to break a lock and found two guards in the home. and they put on two hijabs in the home and ran out. they called someone to meet them and they were able to meet with them. the other girl -- >> how did they get a knife?

>> i'm not sure. they didn't say. they didn't go into the details. they said they broke a lock using a knife and meat cleaver to escape. so i do not know any more details other than. that the other lady who had actually a child. she had an 18-month-old with her and she needed water for her child who couldn't stop crying. she tried to get the guard to bring her water. she finally broke the door and got out and realized there was nobody there. and one guy was asleep so she grabbed her baby and ran out. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> and coming up, one of our worst nightmares, ebola already on our shores do. we now have to worry about jihadist americans coming home to behead us? that's next.

. how many americans are fighting in syria on the side of the terrorists? >> a dozen or so. >> do you know who they are? >> yes. >> each of them? >> of that dozen or so, i think i do. i hesitate because i don't know what i don't know. >> how do you keep them from coming home? >> unless their passport is revoked is entitled to come back. someone who has fought with isil and wants to come back we will

track them carefully. >> that's the fbi director saying that the fbi will find u.s. citizens who have fought for isis if they come back to america. with me former special agent and profiler, mary ellen o'toole. can we really find these guys? >> certainly. the fbi has joint terrorism task forces throughout every field office in the united states and these task forces are made up of federal law enforcement, state, and local law enforcement, and those resources allow the task force to know a lot about these individuals. their family, their friends, their habits, where they go. so we'll have that information, frankly, before they ever hit the ground and come back here to the united states. >> let's certainly hope that is the case. although sometimes with our porous border and these people knowing that we're saying we're going to get them i can imagine

some identity changes of some sort. but let me ask you something, we have americans who go to fight alongside isis and we have americans in oklahoma who actually beheads someone over here. my question is you is, if they're thugs why don't they just join a gang? why do they want to kill americans? >> well i think with this group behavior what's important is that not everyone within the group of isis is equally committed to the type and depth of violence that they're using. so the social media effort to recruit people look very exciting and they look very compelling. but once some of these young men get over there, the difference between reality and fantasy is going to be huge. and many of them are going to

find that that degree of violence is just not part of their makeup. i think we are going to see a lot of dissension among the group. >> i was in law enforcement for 30 some years and my office i had part of the joint terrorism task force. but you know, actually knife and beheading someone. you know, what does it take for someone to actually take a knife and cut someone's head off? >> i mean, look, people think that just anybody who is part of a violent group can do that. but that is so extreme and it requires such a desensization to what they're doing because it's very -- it's not easy to do. it takes time. the victim is going to fight you. there is blood all over. it's really going to be a mess. let's face it, most of us would not be able to gut through that kind of experience. with many of these people what you are not looking at is psych

pathy but sadistic personalities and those are the ones for whom violence is really easy to engage in. >> is there any way to predict those people who are capable of that? you are a profiler? >> sure if you take one look at the individual dressed all in black standing there with a knife. you can almost see his grandiosity getting even more and more through each one of these beheadings. and this is not someone that's engaging in the violence because it's a means to an end. he's getting off on the thrill and the power of it. he was probably years ago a nobody where he came from. and now he's on an international stage and he's confronting the two most powerful men in the world. and he's really enjoying that. he's motivated by thrill and power. that's separating him, i think from many members of the group. >> mary ellen o'toole thanks for

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and cousins. they would do a better job. them guys have got too comfortable. >> what do you think of the secret service. >> i like them. they're there for us. >> a guy got in the white house. have you been reading the news. >> are you safe? >> safer than in the white house. >> who should protect the white house? >> military. >> who would you have you is protect me? >> me. >> do you have a gun in your bag? >> no. >> how do you protect yourself? are you a black belt? >> i wish. >> if you had to protect your home would you want the secret service to protect you? >> sure. why not. i have confidence in them. >> who would you use? >> superman. >> the rock would be a good secret service agent. >> think of a tough guy. >> john kerry actually. >> john kerry. oh, my god. >> this guy --

>> yeah? >> i could protect the president. >> if you could who would you have protect the white house? >> the man who broke into the white house. >> where is arnold schwarzenegger when you need him? >> who should protect the white house or the president? >> obviously liam neeson from "taken" he doesn't mess around. >> i'll look for you. i will find you. and i will kill you. >> who would you have protect you? >> obviously with somebody with confidence and no-how. former military, people are a good head on their shoulders. obviously the secret service at this point is out to lunch a little bit. >> first comes to mind is bruce willis but that doesn't count. >> the guy can walk on glass and do anything. >> yeah. >> and on last week's show i talked about the president blaming james clapper and the cia for missing isis.

responses? edward says, obama can't throw anyone else under the bus, there's no more room. and christie says blame, blame, blame, this is the white house. not kindergarten. scott, the cia must just shake their head. and we commented on obama missing more than half of his daily intel briefings. i bet he has not missed half his fundraisers or tee times. here are the results of the poll. are you furious about ebola here in the united states? maggie says i get frisked at the airport and they take my perfume but they let ebola in. and cdc doesn't know anything. anita is outraged. gina outraged yes, surprised no. we need leadership with backbone in the white house and now.

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