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you can hear from some of the features. the stories are incredible. good night and good bless. stay tuned for "justice with judge jeanine. >> welcome to this audience edition of "hannity." there's a crisis engulfing president obama and his administration for failure to lead at home and abroad. tonight we will figure out the reasons why. >> how did they end up where they are in control of so much territory? was that a complete surprise to you? >> well, i think our head of the intelligence community jim claf ford acknowledged they have under estimated what was taking place in syria.
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>> is it a personal criminal record and standing inches from the president and say somebody need to him. >> you are protecting the white house like you are protecting your reputation here. >> he is running around out here. >> he rode to the front of the business, entered the business and did severe her head. >> this was not workplace violence but an act of terrorism. >> the chances of an ebola outbreak is extremely low. >> a person traveling out of liberia has been diagnosed with ebola in the united states. >> the current commander-in-chief and members of the administration are clearly in way over their heads. the example that proves this point is their ignorance when it comes to terrorists who want to kill innocent americans. for years we were assured that we no longer had to worry about this threat. here's what i mean. >> i am not talking about al
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qaeda's grandiose vision of global domination through a violent islamic cal fate. that vision is absurd. we are not going to organize our policies against a delusion that is never going to happen. >> osama bin laden is no longer a threat to our country. we have put al qaeda on the path of defeat. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. >> we entered the war in iraq we focused the attention on those who actually killed us on 9-11. as a consequence al qaeda's core leadership has been decimated. >> some americans believe all that unfortunately but when we started to learn more about a group called isis and the threat they pose not just in the middle east but around the world president obama was asked about the seeming new testament and quote the analogy is accurate it the jv team puts on lakers uniform it doesn't make them
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kobe bryant. the rise of isis continued and as a result the rhetoric of our commander-in-chief that started to evolve a lot. i don't want to put the cart before the horse we don't have a strategy yet. >> if we are joined by the international community we can continue to shrink isil's sphere of influence, it's effectiveness, it's financing, it's military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> our objective is clear. we will degrade and ultimately destroy isil. a oo that's exactly why we put together tonight's distinguished audience as we cover the hot topics from isis to the oklahoma beheading to the ebola and much more. >> how can the president be so wrong about isis? john, you follow, you write, you are a great author, how?
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how can you possibly be that prong? >> he wanted to be that wrong. the acts of the administration is has been a stallworth warrior. the murder of osama bin laden, this is the killing of osama bin laden put paid to al qaeda. 2012 was sent with that argument and once that argument is made for a year the white house can turn around and say i am sorry i know we said that during the election with ybut we were kind wrong and we didn't really mean it. we are in a lot of trouble now. he had the huge narrative line and they cued to it until heads lobbed off literally. >> after he attacked the intelligence agency something that was well-known to do which is blame somebody else. they got it wrong in isis. he didn't read his daily
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briefings, now we know he knew about it if he would have read them and also was warned with pinpoint accuracy everything that happened if he left iraq too early. how could he be that out of touch? >> barack obama ran and one as an anti war leftist. he has remained stubbornly committed to that ideology. he spent the last two years minimizing the islamic terror threat and threats of all manner and of all major. he doesn't want to have to deal with it. this explains why he is pressed for a group for the military it's part of a leftist ideology. he has persistently tried to deny the threat, deflect aten attention away from it so he could finish the transformation at home until he could no longer do it any more. john pointed to the beheadings of the two americans once that generated enough outrage among
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the american people he had to understand his heart is not in this. >> i agree with you 100 percent. you defend the administration a lot. let's remember they were called overseas contingency operations. we were told the official position of the government of the united states and this administration is what happened in fort hood is an example of workplace violence. they are saying they are not sure, but the initial narrative was probably workplace violence in oklahoma. isis is not islamic. the president was asked sunday if we are at war with isis. he said we are not at war with isis. why can't this president get simple basic things about radical islamists right? >> monica is incorrect saying it's leftist ideology. there are people like myself who don't agree with this president think he is lazy in his leadership and lays de in his policy and doesn't listen to the intelligence that is coming to him.
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to plame an entire group of people is irresponsible. >> but they are fighting back. isn't it interesting that all of a sudden the intelligence community all of these leaks, no he was warned about isis repeatedly. was warned about the ramifications pulling out repeatedly. >> that isn't a leftist ideology. >> it is the president's leftist ideology. i don't think anybody but you deny. >> it doesn't have anything to do with him being a leftist. it has to do with him being a poor leader. >> leon panetta described that in his book. that's his fill loss see. he wa -- philosophy. >> it is saying he wanted to abandon iraq because that is his ideology that is part of the left wing ideology. >> let me go to both. i want to ask you a specific point. one month ago obama said about the syrian opposition, he said, it's a fantasy that won't happen. these are doctors and pharmacists who couldn't possibly aid our efforts.
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that had a has become the core of his foreign policy. >> let's not simplify this. we are dealing with barbarians. friends of mine send me videos of hundreds of these beheadings putting people's head on polls. now we are using social media in the united states of america and get more people to join us. this is the world war 3 beginning. these people that are out there are barbarianbarbarians, sean. people have to realize what is going on. the only way to defeat them, what they should do is if they don't want to put our boots on the ground we have a lot of heros navy people in england. we should put out 10,000 real soldiers can wipe them out. >> i would go. if they said you want to go i would say go. >> you want to fight isis. >> you view it as a clear present danger. >> if our president isn't going to do anything about it i will.
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>> i wish i could go. >> you have heros in england you have guys over there. these aren't like iraqis with their hands tied behind the back get their shot in the back of the head. you got real military guys. they want to have a fight i put my navy seals my guys in america put them over there. >> i put your whole detective squad against them. >> let me turn to the muslim side of this question. the president has come under fire for saying the islamic state is not islamic. yes it is. we have the boca haram, islamic jihad, we have isis, we have al qaeda, we have hezbollah, we have hamas. all in the name of your religion. which i know bothers you. this is happening in the name of islam. >> there are two islams out there. one is pristine islam which is the majority of what we follow and the other is isis guys they
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say (indiscernible) they are rightfully quoting it it is not in islam. >> i am not a koran expert. >> the koran talks a lot about infidels it talks about holy war about jihad, it talks about take neither christians or jews as your friends. a ridged interpretation is how they justify what they are doing. >> absolutely correct. >> they read it verbatim talks about jihad takes neither christians nor jews as your fends friends it justifies it. >> they have been conditioned to read that way. >> i have read the koran. >> from the 10th and 11th century muslim scholars they misinterpreted the whole thing including don't take friends with jews or christians. >> jihad, infidels. you are an imam.
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>> why does the majority of what we see in the media today all anti christian anti jew in isn't there not a bigger cry from the muslim community. >> convert or die. >> i am glad you mentioned that. the if you don't go google it hf muss i ams around the world condemn isis. i>> there are over a billion s. >> don't detract. >> your voice is -- i find moderate muslims that have their religion being hijacked their voices are almost mute. there is a fear. because what happens? they are labeled an apostate. you have had fatwas called on you. >> i have had death threats. >> let's go to the imam. this is happening in the name of your religion. i asked you once if hezbollah is a terrorist group you wouldn't give me a definitive answer.
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in the charter it az oblitera obliterate the state of israel. >> hamas. >> do you condemn them now? >> no, i will not condemn hamas. i wouldn't care if a thousand people disagree. >> hamas' charter says to obliterate jews and israel. >> need though change the charter. >> are we going to talk or are we going to scream? >> go ahead. >> first of all what i would say is this. first of all anybody who has an ounce of strength knows that the tag that was given to these people barbarians that is perfectly accurate. but you can't substitute barbarian with islam. they may take on the idea of islam, but christianity, judaism and islam it's like a trauma ward we invite everybody in.
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just be fair let me finish. >> judaism does not fight. >> christianity and islam does. >> the point i am making is we can't scrutinize who comes through the door. >> in hamas -- in the mosque of oklahoma we are told they had back room meetings this was the convert or die position. >> i am sorry. if someone comes through the door and says they want to kill any one who is nonmuslim which is what the oklahoma by pguy pu facebook i would not allow them in here. you said you would let everyone in. >> let's be real, sir. my grandmother was beheaded in the united states of america. a grandmother was beheaded in the united states. >> do i get a chance to respond? >> i have 15 people asking 15
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questions. >> first of all, this man if he was a muslim for three years what was he before that? do we indict what he was before that because of the fact that he went bananas. >> he spoke in arabic he asked for a muslim brother. >> what about the man who killed his six children? >> was a violent criminal before he did this. let's not make the fact that he found religion -- >> all over his facebook was islam. >> he went postal. >> he went back to his employer who fired him and killed someone there. that has nothing to do with islam or the koran. >> all over facebook is influence of radical islam. >> any one who is a christian and kills someone they are not indicted for. that. >> give us the isis comparison in christian. >> how about the clan. >> a jewish comparison.
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in 1916 there was a radical white ring jewish defense league and mainstream jews attacked him. when farook goldstein killed 28 arabs in 1995 mainstream judaism went after him worse. worse than anybody else. if that is a model. >> that's a mass murder that's not a religion. >> here's what i am saying. >> we will get back to you when we come back. our audience just wet getting warmed up. we confront the extremist ideology that is to blame for ideology that is to blame for the brutal the conference call.
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before he stepped foot in the oval office president obama was busy crisscrossing the globe boldly declaring it was a religion of peace. you may remember this. >> the united states is not and will never be at war with islam. >> isil is not islamic. no religion condones the killing of innocents. the vast majority of isil ace victims have been muslim. >> we reaffirm the united states is not and will never be at war with islam. >> islam teaches peace. >> in light of the brutal beheading in oklahoma late last week and other acts of barbarism around the globe we are asking whether or not president obama is truly literally taking the threat of radical islam seriously. ainsley earhardt we have learned a lot about this guy in oklahoma who was beheading. we learned ep wanted a muslim judge -- i am sorry, a muslim attorney. he also was speaking in arabic
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as he was beheading thiss poor women. >> he has a photo of an isis leader on facebook. his page has been took down. he referred to the group as his brothers. he told co-workers women should be stoned. he also went to the same mosque as the 9-11 conspirator and inside that mosque behind closed doors quote they taught the true teachings of islam which include the choice to none muslims that you must convert live under islamic rule or be fought against jihad for the sake of allah. america and israel are wicked, wake up muslims he said. he posted a photo of the burning twin towers don't you all know why the eastern part of the world hates america everything god says -- >> how many doubt this guy sports radical islam. >> who doubts it? >> he's a criminal.
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>> i read the koran. (talking over one another) >> he's a criminal and using the koran and using islam as opportunistic. >> what did ainsley just say? she gave you facts. >> he said he's crazy. this is not an indictment on the religion. >> what joe is saying, that would mean that every radical islamist you say is crazy and not a terrorist. >> any one who is going to use the koran or any other religious artifact to commit crimes of violence is someone who is a criminal. there's someone who is not.
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you think this individual who was a violent criminal before he converted a christian american -- who was a christian -- >> you got noncriminals in america england going over to isis for religion. >> when he committed acts of violence before he didn't go to jail. >> he is not criminal if these kids are running over there. they have no criminal records they are joining up with isis for the religion, joe. >> between joe and myself we have 30 years of being criminal defense attorney. i have been a criminal defense attorney for almost 10 years and -- let me finish. let me finish. let me finish, please. am not defending him. i am not defending isis and their behaviors and the barbaric acts certain people a part of that group. this is a man who is a crazy person and would probably go and say he's insane and ask for an evaluation by the court just because he's saying he's muslim --
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(talking over one another) >> sympathizing radical islamist. we could say the same thing about every group and every member of the group based on what these two are saying. oot oo what was 9-11 air -- air rage? that's what you are saying here tonight. an american grandmother was beheaded on american soil. then you have the obama administration hedging we are not sure if it was terrorism or not. this was an act of terrorism on american soil. you have to -- (talking over one another) he's a criminal actor who had a violent history and is using the koran as his motivation. >> noel in the back. >> he's a spokesperson for terrorism. >> noel? >> what about 9-11. >> joe, joe, joe.
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what happened about fort hood and hassan? he is using the koran as his defense. >> he uses the koran to commit acts of terrorism. >> we don't -- (talking over one another) oo ainsley is making a good point. >> joe, you are talking about because this is a single individual this can't be a terrorist attack? what about the boston marathon bombing? is doctor brothers. >> we have to take a break. we are going back to neutral corners. the american people can't even feel secure that the president of the united states and fist first family aren't safe in the white house. hannity continues.
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>> from america's news headquarters i am kelly wright. university of virginia student hannah graham has been missing for three weeks now and there's still no sign of her. more than 100 tips. a suspect is in custody and has been charged in the case. they also have forensic evidence linking him to the 20 year old death of a student. protestors are out again overnight but there was little at the confrontation we have seen the past week. protest leaders agreeing to take some of the barricades down allowing civil workers to get back to work. tens of thousands have been demonstrating against restrictions on the first ever direct election of the city's chief executive planned for 2017. i am kelly wright. now back to "hannity."
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>> a man who jumped the white house fence made it further into 1600 pennsylvania avenue than originally reported. to make matters worse members of the obama administration were contradicting themselves about the matter. listen to what josh irma said about the head of the secret service julia pearson before and after she resigned. >> she is more than qualified to do her job. she has a difficult responsibility. he continues to have confidence in the leadership of the secret service to protect him and his family and implement the reforms to perform the security. >> she offered her resignation because she believed it was in the best interest of the agency to whenich she has dedicated he career. the secretary agreed with that and the president did as well. we have seen recent and accumulating reports raising
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questions about the performance of the agency. the president concluded new leadership was required. >> 24 short hours later. it showe bring back our studio audience and we have two former secret service agents dan bangino running for congress and dan meno is with us. we have the fence jumper made it much further into the white house even past the stairs going up to the residence which is scary. we have the second incident in 2011 six shots fired at the white house and took them four-days they determined they thought it had nothing do related to the white house which i disagree with. a g a guy with a gun got on an elevator. we have to protect our president. isis is watching us. >> there is no partisanship with that. these were clear failures. no putting lipstick on them. you have a tutorial how to jump the fence on the north lawn.
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the only thing i can hope from this is there is some kind of exhaustive review. it breaks up the bureaucracy in the bdhs to get answers. i argue there have been holes in it the entire time and they have been subjected to bureaucratic pressures even changing the at thetices. he pushed aside one agent like it was nothing and walked into three different rooms. >> it was a uniform division officer. let's not confuse that. >> sorry about that. >> one has tois day and age what if he had a bomb strapped to his body. ? >> that's exactly right. that's why in my view lethal force should have been used. this is where dan and i split on where we think about this. united to look at the whi-- you look at the white house as a living thing. this is the home of the united
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states. he could have just left. he could have easily have come back to the house for any number of reasons. if mr. gonzalez had been running ramped at that point it could have caused quite a problem. >> there is a bigger issue in all of this it is the insecurity of the united states and americans and patriots to articulate a rational for our valu values, freedom, liberty, democracy, freedom of religion. we don't hear that from our president we didn't hear it tonight. as john f. kennedy style i say we have to do that otherwise we will lose no matter what the debate is. >> you and i disagree on a lot. don't we have to have the courage to identify terrorism for terrorism? >> we have to identify terrorism. >> why won't the president say it? you are a democrat why won't he say it. >> he is wropg. the vast majority of the
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american people -- doesn't it protect weakness? >> of course it does. don't reemphasize the positive rather than carrying people down. >> let me go to nicholas first then i promise noel. >> nicholas? >> as far as the white house jumper i would have shot him. >> you are a former ranger. >> sniper. >> i want to shoot with you. >> let's do it. but he should have been shot. >> let me say the guy that pulled the trigger finds out later tears a guy with ptsd which it turned out to be. i want him to get help. he is he served this country. i want to make sure he gets help. >> there's a lot of guys with ptsd. >> so he shoots him now you are going to have the whole liberal media come out and say he shot this guy, why did they shoot that guy? >> you can never repeat the l--
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the liberal media. you are damned if you don't and damned if you do. >> what did you want to say? >> there's no appeasing the liberal media. you are damned if you do and damn iffed you don't. >> if if it becomes a black whitish ue or trayvon martin now m noel you have a whole different set of issues. >> back to your point on terrorism in the white house not really calling terrorism terrorism. you have to realize obama's background from the beginning this is someone who palled around with bill ayers. this is someone who went to a church that basically preached hate. you have got to realize -- >> your point? >> she is making the point. >> oh my goodness. the point of it is, this obama is someone that is anti war,
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anti-terrorism. cameron stop. >> he doesn't want to call terrorism what is terrorism. that's what it is about. >> let me bring you in here. >> i would like to find out from the former secret service why was the front door not locked? isn't there a security advice? i think congressman asked that. >> the point here is of course he didn't have to be shot if things were working right he would have been detained before he got to the door. >> the question here is -- >> i have been in the security business. the detective that could have observed him going over the wall you have dogs there. it didn't happen. >> i worked in the white house like a lot of people here. it is mind boggling to think that he got anywhere near the door. i should have been stopped before the door. the question is managerial.
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larger managerial question. >> we have none lethal options. he is an arak w-- iraq war vet. are you going to put a slug in his head let's fix it before you talk about blowing the guy away. the it was a massive failure. are we arguing if we should put a bullet in the head of a trespass trespasser? >> i am a normer nave -- former navy seal. >> what are the rules of engagement. >> there are two issues. one to sum it up as far as the islamic cal fate goes. history in 1900's over a million and a half aramaeans were killed. mohammed he carried out the first caliphate the movement of islam, but the other problem you have is leadership. what happened is the white house with the secret service if you don't have a plan you are going to react. if you have a plan you respond
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effectively. that is the problem. things are not being looked at before hand and this administration is 100 percent react tive. >> when we come back it is not just issues on national security that have sparked this crisis. president obama promised us all the chances of an ebola outbreak in america are going to happen. a case has been diagnosed in texas. there's growing concerns our medical experts they are a panel and we will talk about that issue when we return. the year's largest variety of shrimp flavors! like new wood-grilled sriracha shrimp or parmesan crusted shrimp scampi... as much as you like, any way you like! hurry in and sea food differently.
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welcome back to this audience edition of >> so when the ebola outbreak first erupted in west africa americans watched in horror and began questioning if in fact it could make it to our shores. president obama assured our country we had little to fear. >> first and foremost i want the american people to know our experts at cdc and across our government agree the chances of
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an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. >> today we are providing the information that an individual traveling from liberia has been diagnosed with ebola in the united states. >> hundreds of people now reportedly being honored in texas and beyond. americans can now only hope that others weren't affected. we bring back our studio audience and fox medical a team dr. seeing em. >> a lot of people worried it could be 12 to 18. >> can i go to the secret service before i go to that? >> you can do whatever you want. >> after three years riding mountain bikes with ee kr secre service the hardest thing was keeping up with him. >> 99.9 percent. it may not be the secret service on the outside there are different layers that are not
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factored in here. do americans have to worry about ebola? >> yes and no. i want to start by saying it's clear that there was a delayed response here. that's the bigger problem. president obama delays on everything. he delayed on isis and delayed on this. >> the military is good in this kind of situation. >> don't extend the military in this. they don't belong there. >> the kind of military that built the infrastructure. >> they are not sending us for that. >> here is to sean's point. there is going to be cases here now because we waited too long. it is not going to be a sustained epidemic because it is very difficult to spread this
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virus. >> we have an infrastructure. a medical infrastructure they don't have in the countries where this outbreak is killing so many people. doctor radcliffe, air france, great britain have stopped travel to some of the countries involved. the president on the very same day the guy went into the hospital said we won't send anybody back to some of these countries. is that a mistake? >> i don't think it's a mistake. >> if it is not contained to one country or one city. >> we have to deal with the other country devastated or impacted. the people aren't allowed to go to france they aren't allowed to travel to great britain. >> ebola is a different face in the united states. the testament is what happened -- >> in spite of our ability to cure it. >> wears a different face. look what happened emery hospital. >> i love emory hospital. i lived in atlanta.
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i don't want to go to emory hospital. >> i don't wonder why they are not checking temperatures here. when we are entering the united states we are relying on customs officials to recognize sick people. >> we are going to take a break. we will come back. we will continue. with ef more to happen. president bush was right when he warned back in 2007 what would happen if we pulled out of iraq too soon. how many americans lost their lives? 4,000. brian kilmeade ask about this and more. also what he thinks about the rice of isis those highlights and studio reaction.
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welcome back >> welcome back to our audience edition of "hannity." president obama has zero confidence or sound decisions. president george w. bush not only predict the the current crisis and what would happen if we pulled out early but is offering a message to the american people about what's happening. take a look at what he told co host brian kilmeade this week. >> by the nature of the enemy anybody who kills 3,000 innocents and bee heads people
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because of their religion or because of their point of view is dangerous. there's a short term strategy to bring them to justice and long-term strategy is to provide societies to prevail. the long-term strategy takes time. americans have to understand the lesson of 9-11 is still as important as it was after 9-11. human condition elsewhere matters to our national security. >> we bring back our audience. you hear that? the nature of the enemy. they are sympathizers. you don't want to call it terror. he's a criminal even though all over his facebook page he has things about isis and koran and videos and hating jews. >> before that he was a christian. >> he's a terrorist. >> he's a criminal. >> the 9-11 hijackers criminals or a terrorists? >> are we back to that?
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>> terrorist. >> is he a terrorist or criminal? >> he's an islamic radical. >> no he is not an islamic radical. >> he is using a tactic to change people's -- >> that makes him a tactic. >> that's a tactic not a belief. >> can i say this is part of isis strategy. they want lone wolf terrorists here in america. >> you think aisis targeted thi guy? >> their propaganda leads to people like this. >> let me give you the time line on this. >> it isn't about islam. >> it is all about islam. you can't remove islam from this. >> by you buying into it you are allowing them to recruit that kind of thinking. >> let me help you with the time line. the time line is simple. three-days prior to the beheading in oklahoma the head
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of isis called for loan wolf lonof of -- wolves to behead people. >> the guy used terrorism or isis to commit a crime. wait, don't forget. it wasn't a random act of violence to further the desires of isis. it was someone in his former place of employment where he was disgruntled. >> the fact that you are unwilling to admit this is going to make it easier to fight this on our front lawn. they are hereable to do what they are trained to do which is beheading people. >> today ace tw's twitter has t people telling you, we know where you live. soldier's families. we are going to get your addresses. >> nicholas, respond to that. >> i think as far as the isis situation he was a member of isis. there are no ifs, ands, butts or about it.
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>> on his facebook he talked about supporting them. in my opinion he's a part of isis. he's a terrorist. >> we lose our focus on what president bush said. yes, sean, a democrat saying president bush was right about short term and long-term. we are so busy arguing about is he a terrorist not a terrorist a criminal. it is our values not characterizations. >> isn't it embarrassing netanyahu is the only adult on the stage and how weak our president is? >> president obama is doing the best that he can. >> president obama has a strategy. when he says islam is not terror he was telling the correct information. >> we would have none of -- we make a grave and dangerous mistake when we start comparing jihadism with mental illness or criminal activity.
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