starts right now. >> is ebola is ebola coming to your neighborhood? and should you be worried that it's going to get to you or your family? who's got a better handle on the isis threat, president obama? and we're going to be joined by melissa ethridge. get buckled up, because there's even more tonight on huckabee. [ applause ] hello, everyone. i'm mike huckabee. and thanks for joining us. the ebola crisis is not a

political crisis, it's a public health crisis. the ebola scare goes to the heart of a simple question. do you trust the government? audience, do you trust the government? >> no. >> and why would you? i mean, remember these? >> as i said from the beginning. under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your private health insurance plan, can you keep your plan. period. >> we will start by reducing premiums by as much as $2500 per family. >> no mass corruption. >> not even mass corruption, not even a smidgeon of corruption. >> this is a response to a hateful video. >> so now you have add a new promise to that list. >> in the unlikely event that

one with ebola does reach our shores we've taken new measures so we're prepared here at home. >> less than a week after the president told it was unlikely ebola came to the oust, when a liberian person lied, as many as 100 people in dallas were exposed and are being monitored for symptoms. i can appreciate public officials trying to calm us. but i can't appreciate them not taking steps before they mingle among us. they claim that banning entry to those who have been in liberia would hurt our relations with these nations. forgive me, but hurting someone's feelings should not be the concern of the president. pro tenting american citizens

should be. look, i don't ever want to hurt anybody's feelings, but if you're potentially carrying a disease that could kill one of my grandchildren, i'll gladly hurt your feelings before you hurt my grand kids. our government suspended flights to israel in august when there was no reason to do so. but they can't say that quarantine travelers from west africa is appropriate? the cdc has the authority to prohibit anyone from entry who might pose a threat to the health of the u.s. what it says is they won't keep people out. we've seen our borders routinely ignored. so if somebody with ebola really

wants to come to the u.s., just get to mexico and walk right in. no country can guarantee 100% protection for its folks, including ebola. since 9/11, we have inconvenienced every american who wants to fly on a plane. we make them take their shoes off and get a body search. we've engaged in unconstitutional searches of people's e-mails, tax records. we've searched elderly women in wheelchai wheelchairs, and then you tell me that we might hurt someone's feelings in liberia? wel well, la-de-freakin' da. you know what? i'm feeling a little sick myself. but it's not ebola. i'm just sick of a government that i'm paying for telling me

not to worry and just trust them. i wish i could. but if they repeatedly lie to me, i just don't believe them anymore. let's hope there's nothing to be worried about and that ebola really doesn't threaten most of us. but hearing that from the federal government right now is kind of like hearing that i can keep my doctor and keep my health insurance. [ applause ] joining me now is the former governor of utah who served as health and human services secretary under george w. bush and was a secretary with the epa. when the government says we've got nothing to worry about, do we have something to worry about? with ebola? >> listen, pandemics happen. they are a fact of the natural world. we have had ten of them in the

last 300 years. we've had three of them in the last 100 years, and when they happen, they are world-changing events. so it's something we should always be concerned about and always be preparing for. they happen infrequently enough that often we forget about it and get a bit lax in our preparation, so the answer is we should always be concerned about it because they will happen either now or in the future. >> i remember when i was governor in arkansas, were you the secretary of health and human services, and that agency of course oversees cdc. there was a concern about the h5n1 virus, bird flu. everybody thought we were going to see a pandemic. i don't think it appears there was that kind of intense preparation for the possibility of ebola. >> preparation has to be ongoing. it has to be something we think about all the time. and the things we would do,

frankly, for a pandemic, are the same things we should be doing for an earthquake or bioterrorism event or hurricane or anything. i think this is about preparedness, and i think that's the way we need to be thinking about ebola. we need to realize that this kind of thing happens and need to be ready no matter when it is. >> did it hurt that the administration, specifically, the president, said it is unlikely to come here, and then it came here in less than two weeks? >> i was surprised to hear the president say that. we spent extensive resources modeling pandemic behavior back in the day you refer to with the h5 h5n1. and in a world that is so globally connected, the likely hood of a case not reaching the united states seemed highly unlikely. it seemed predictable that we would have one. and i would say it's predictable

we'll have more than what we have had today simply because it's impossible in a world as complex and globally connected as we are to just prevent all of them. the question is, how do we respond when that occurs? and i believe that the response in texas has been the appropriate one. they stumbled initially, but we're all a bit more on guard now. there are a whole series of steps in battling a pandemic, and the most important one right now is containing, when you discover a case, containing it and make certain that it does not spread. >> travel bans. that has been talked about a lot whether we should say, look, if you're coming in from liberia, we're just not going to let you come in for a while. is that a better way or identifying people before they get in here. >> my concern is, the most important thing we do is screen at the border and at the border of those who have been affected.

a person could leave liberia and fly to paris and then take a plane from paris to the united states. if we're not monitoring at the borders during periods hilike ts and looking for people that are sick or are from areas that could have been affected we're likely to have adverse effects. blanket travel bans wouldn't be as dramatic as beefing up the type of monitoring and watchfulness that we have at the liberian border for example and the united states border. >> well, mr. secretary, always a pleasure. thank you for joining us, and great to get your insights into this, thank you. [ applause ] up next, are the officials in your state prepared

we recognize the concerns that even a single case of ebola creates on our shores, but we have the public health systems and the public health providers in place to contain the spread of this disease. >> health and human services secretary sylvia burwell. and joining me now is dr. thompson from the state of arkansas. he and i worked together on a lot of public health issues. dr. thompson, thanks for joining my. it's good to see you again. >> good to be with you. >> let's start out by finding out exactly what kinds of guidelines and information has the cdc provided to people like you, chief health officer at the state level? >> the cdc has provided to health departments local and state across the nation several different tools that have re

valuable. one is guidance on what to do if there is a potential person with ebola symptoms or exposure, and providing us information to get out to our provider, hospitals and clinics across the states, to find out, have you traveled overseas and in particular west africa. >> do you feel like the information you have provided and to the local community, is it adequate? has it within provided in a timely fashion? were you prepared for what happened in dallas? >> i think with ebola, we had an early warning by the information coming from west africa, so we were aware. i think what happened in dallas was anytime the first case happen, your vigilance goes dramatically up. so i think after dallas, providers across the nation and in our state have a much higher vigilance to ask the questions and assess the patients more accurately.

>> how worried are you that this is going to spread and we'll see hundreds if not thousands of cases of ebola across the united states? >> it's hard to predict. this virus is lesseesly spread than the h1n1 that you talked about earlier, but i would not predict that we won't have a few more cases pop up across the united states. i think most of them will be from travelers who have come across who were infected but asymptomatic when they came and with the readiness of our personnel for treatment and public health personnel for containment will be important to contain this response. >> you probably heard the conversation i just had with the former secretary, you remember the h1n1 pandemic that we were all really afraid of, and frankly, we thought it was coming, and we maybe that. let's just act again as if we're at a press conference, and i call you to the podium, because

i did that several times. but let's pretend that that's what we're doing right now, and i say dr. thompson, please come to the podium and tell the people of our state what they need to do. what they need to prepare for. what would be your message to them? >> my message would be, we have a new threat in the united states, not yet in our state, here in arkansas. but a new threat that has emerged like many more will come and like we've had in the past. the most important thing for an individual to do is wash their hands, several times every day, not only for the ebola virus but also for the common flu which is starting later this month. keep yourself healthy and active. this is exposure and we have worked with our personnel to contain it. >> hospitals feel like they

weren't adequate lay noly notif maybe aren't fully staff pri prepared. is there a danger that nurses are going to say, i'm not going to touch that person before we know more. >> have you traveled outside of the united states, question number one. if they answer that as yes, have you traveled to west africa. if those two questions are yes, then a whole new set of procedures should be put in place before you get to the examination and the touching and exploration of a patient's physical well-being. >> i tell you what i'm going to do. i've already got my flu shot, and as soon as i take a break i'm going to wash my hands again. i don't know about this audience. i'm not sure about them [ laughter ] >> thank you for the insight on the ebola virus. [ applause ] when we come back, president

obama met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu this week. so what the president said is revealing and frightening, and huckabee correspondent ryan reese is going to take you inside the secret service fiasco, that's next. [ applause ] fiasco, that is next

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mikehuckabee.com. the recent lapse in security has some people questioning whether president obama's secret service is doing its job. so we sent huckabee correspondent ryan reese to washington to investigate. ryan, are you there? >> reporter: i'm here, governor reporting from the oval office. >> how did you get inside the white house? >> reporter: easy. i walked right through the front door [ laughter ] >> you're telling me that door is still unlocked? >> reporter: oh, no, governor. the former secret service director left it wide open on her way out. [ laughter ] >> that makes sense. what have you been doing there? >> reporter: i've found some pretty neat stuff, like this missing irs hard drive? [ laughter ] >> oh, that's amazing. where did you find that?

>> reporter: turns out joe biden put it in the vcr. >> vcr? they still have a vcr? i suppose it's still flashing 12:00? > >> reporter: also a folder entitled isis strategy. >> what's in the folder? >> reporter: it's empty. >> it looks like i underestimated you. >> reporter: that's not all. this was on the president's desk. >> tell me that's a framed copy of the constitution? >> reporter: no, it's an autographed photo of vladimir putin. >> you've been running all over the white house. have you been confronted by anyone since you've been in there? >> reporter: why, yes. i met the president. >> you did? what did he say? >> reporter: i've got some good news for you governor. i know you're worried about an immigration policy, but the president ensured me that our borders are as secure as his very own home.

>> oh, and that's what worries all of us. thank you very much, ryan, good to have you on location. [ applause ] also this week,is rail eye prime minister benjamin netanyahu met with president obama at the white house to talk about the isis threat and israel's relations with the palestinians, but the obama administration wasn't that worried about iran having a nuclear bomb. it was unhappy with israel's plans to build bedrooms in east jerusalem. >> this will only bring condemnation from the international community, poison the atmosphere, not only with the palestinians, but with the very arab governments with which president netanyahu said he wanted to build relations. >> this is the country that has vowed they would wipe israel off the face of the map, and they're building the very instrument to do it, and the white house seems

less worried about iran having the bomb than they are about israel having some bedrooms in their own country. this ought to concern every american that our priorities are completely disjointed. and really need to refocus. i don't know how the prime minister of israel was able to keep a straight face and maintain some level of decorum, but i hope america will understand we don't have a better friend in all of the world than israel, and the least that they should be able to expect of us is that we would give them our friendship in return. not a kick in the rear about building bedrooms for their own families. well, does pope francis have a better handle on the isis threat than president obama? we'll talk about it when we come back. and later, melissa ethridge is here to play with the

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the beheading of alan henning is the fourth killing carried out by isis in retaliation for u.s.-led air strikes. the latest internet video was released on friday. meanwhile, pope francis held a summit at the vatican. the meetings included ambassadors from iraq, iran, syria, israel and all over the middle east. our guest is the author of a brand new book, "the way of serenity." father morris joins us now. it seems to me, unprecedented for a pope to call forth a summit of many ambassadors and leaders from other countries to talk about, really, a military threat, a crisis of terrorism. this is unusual, is it not? >> this man who calls himself

francis is very used to doing very unprecedented things, beginning with living in a guesthouse in the vatican rather than the papal apartments. what he has done that is so unexpected, i think, given the fact that he's always calling for peace is get ahead of the rest of the international community, calling out, first humanitarian aid, there's a major crisis, but then, international community get together and stop this terrorist group, and how do you stop terrorists? unfortunately, it's pretty messy. >> i respect so much that he's been realistic about this. you would expect the pope to say pray for those who are doing bad things and maybe they'll change. jesus said "blessed are the peacemakers ". i think many have read this as blessed as those who love peace. making peace is not always

pretty. sometimes it's messy. i think in the true spirit of blessed are the peacemakers, that this pope recognizes that you're not going to defeat terrorists by sitting down and having a chat. >> he didn't say go bomb them, it's not up to him to be coming up with political strategy. but what he said is stop them. that means use the minimal amount of force necessary in order to stop an unjust aggressor. in this case it is very obvious they are unjust and they are going after the innocent. and unfortunately, some people don't respond to dialog. should we start with dialog? absolutely. but there's also a time when you have to say, i'm going to use violence, if necessary. >> when we see people, innocent people, usually ijournalists an who aren't even warriors,

getting their heads severed on video, we are dealing with not your typical geoforce. how is it for a leader of the church to take on a position like this when the church was silent, like in the runup to world war ii. >> the papacy has changed. and i think pope francis has realized that. >> persecution is intense, especially towards christians, we don't hear it often among the media. but we've seen it in the kurds and in syria and in egypt. what can we do to help stem the tide? >> i think the reason why people haven't been realizing it is because our leaders haven't been

talking about it. pope francis and other spiritual leaders, for months and months leading up to president obama, and than has done something now, but for months, have been saying there is a major persecution, not only persecution, danger of genocide of ethnic and religious cleansing, and that has to stop. and it wasn't until he finally started talking about stopping them, which made the news, that people started doing something. i'm so glad that they have. >> i'm deep any grateful for the leadership the pope has shown on this. and i hope others will speak out because we are in a very, very dangerous place. congratulations on the book. you better hurry up and get your copy. they're selling out quick. >> i hope it brings help to all of us in these crazy times. >> it's a beautiful reminder of how we are to pray and ask god's help in our lives.

thank you, father. great to have you with us. we're going to be looking at obamacare next. stay with us.

we learn real fast after obamacare launched a year ago that we couldn't keep our doctor if we liked our doctor, despite the president's promise, but the president and the democrats made several other promises about the

health care law, including this one. >> under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions. >> first of all, this is a health care bill, it's not an abortion bill. >> the president has made very clear that federal funds will not be used for abortion coverage. we're not changing the status quo and the law at all. >> well, in the words of that great american philosophier, gomer pyle, surprise, surprise, surprise. the government accountability office found that obamacare is funding abortions with your taxpayer dollars, here to explain it is betsy mccoy, author of beating obamacare 2014. >> the fact is, some americans are pro-life, some are pro-choice. but we are all pro-truth, am i right? [ applause ] >> we want our president to tell

the truth and to keep his promises. and the fact is way back in 2010, he didn't have the votes to pass this law. >> yeah. >> so he went to the pro-life democratic caucus and said, i'm going to make you a promise, right? even though this law will make health insurance mandatory, no one will be forced to buy abortion coverage or have their tax dollars used to pay for abortion coverage. he provided the promise in writing, but not actually in the law. then right after the law squeaked by with a few extra votes he decided to forget that promise. >> i remember very clearly they called it the stupak amendment. he later ended up retiring. he said oh, don't worry, the president has given an executive order, he has lpromised. but it has long been a policy

that they would not use taxpayer dollars under the hyde amendment. >> it bamboozled the public. remember this one? you're going to get the same deal your congressman gets. and you're going to save $2500 a year. did you save it? >> no, no one really did. how is it written into the law that abortion is now a part of obamacare? >> actually, what the law says is that qualified health plans will be offered in all the exchanges across the country and states have some leeway in determining what qualified means, and the secretary of human services has it. but the fact is, in a majority of states health plans are being sold that cover abortion, and consumers who go to the ex-check to buy a health plan aren't told

here's the price without abortion coverage. in other words, this isn't a pro-choice piece of legislation. it takes the choice away. >> do you think it was intentional? was it something they knew was in that law? or was this something oh, my gosh, we didn't know this? >> that's the question we're hit with again and again. was it incompetence or intentional? here's the rub. we the american people know, not one party or the other, know that we can write a health reform law that will be fair enough and honest enough that politicians don't have to lie about it again and again and again. and that's what we should be doing. >> we are now one year into the launch of bawl carobamacare. and the rollout was disastrous.

now we know wasn't just a few million, it was billions of dollars. >> and get ready for the confusion this year. it's not just a coincidence that despite what the law actually says, the obama administration moved the dates to after the election. >> what are people going to see with the renewal period? that's where we are now. are rates going to go up? >> rates will go up for quite a few people. but here's what i'm really worried about. most people still get their insurance through an employer, their own or a spouse's, many could lose their on the job coverage and be forced onto one of the exchanges which is a very raw deal. the plans that the employers bought, suddenly are no longer eligible and employers are going to be stuck with either going to the very expensive obamacare one size fits all requirement or saying to their employees, i'm sorry, you're going to have to

get your health insurance somewhere else. >> that's very frightening. as you say, there are a lot of people in for yet more surprises. betsy mccoy, always great to have you here. nobody understands this whole thing more for the simple reason you read it. you did something nancy pelosi still has not done. you read the stinkin' bill. >> what lawmakers should be doing. >> yes. i hope you are not going to have an increase in your rates, but chances are many of you will. and if you lose your coverage, just remember, are you promised that if you like your health insurance, can you keep it. that's what's frustrating. it's not just that there are problems, but they're broken promises that are the reason for those problems that you're having right now. well, coming up, grammy winning rock star, melissa ethridge, jamming with the little rockers. you are not going to want to miss this. we'll be right back with pa liis

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for the arts. >> i love that about you. you said i want to talk about music. and music in the schools and how important it is. that is absolutely common ground. >> so you weren't afraid this wasn't going to kill your reputation and career, huh? >> no. i came from arkansas. >> that was such a thrill for me to find out you spent time in south arkansas. >> eldorado, arkansas. >> we're probably cousins. i'm just telling you now. >> it's true. i'm related to everybody down there. >> it's something, your music has lasted, now, for 25 years. but i'm thinking, you've had a sustained career. through generations. i want to talk about how you got started. because to me this is so important that people understand. you started when you were 8 years old. and what first attracted you to

music? >> it was the music i was hearing myself. it was '60s. there was the ed sullivan show, there was whv in kansas city. and this excited me. i didn't have any music in my home. my parents, my father was a high school teacher and my mother worked for the army, civil servant. i saw the guitar, i wanted to play it. there was music in the schools. i got to take, starting in third grade, we took music, and that was exactly when i started playing. the music teacher said bring your guitar to the class and i did. >> isn't it sad that a lot of schools are getting rid of music when we should be ramping it up. and it breaks my heart to think that some schools think that music is expendable. >> it isn't. it helps with math and learning when a child can be exposed to learning music. >> you know what i love about it, too, it is a civilizing force, in a time when people are

sometimes so angry and so passionate about things that divide music brings people together. and it's one of the things i love most about it. this album you've done, i think it's your best album ever. phenomenal. >> thank you. >> by the way, the audience is going to get a copy of melissa's cd. this song, they will adownload not just this but the entire album, we're going to do one now, it's called a little bit of me. and before we do, i want to introduce the little rockers, mark macchio, chris macchio. the little rockers. let's do "a little bit of me." ♪

♪ if you believe ♪ if you try ♪ you could be ♪ if you knew the truth ♪ it couldn'tbe denied ♪ it could change your world ♪ and you might find ♪ that the world goes round and round and round and round ♪ ♪ everybody wants some common ground ♪ ♪ we got to pull together. there's a little bit of me and a little bit of you ♪ ♪ the world goes round and round and round ♪ ♪ no need to be afraid of anybody you see ♪ ♪ a little bit of you and a little bit of me ♪ ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah ♪ there's a little bit of me ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah

♪ is it all a shame ♪ the things about each other that we're so scared of ♪ ♪ you could shake your head ♪ you can change your mind ♪ either way you wake up inside yourself to find ♪ ♪ that the world goes round and round and round and round ♪ ♪ everybody wants some common ground ♪ ♪ we got to pull together if we're going to pull through ♪ ♪ there's a little bit of me and a little bit of you ♪ ♪ the world goes round and round and round and round ♪ ♪ everybody's a little upside down ♪ ♪ there's no reason to be afraid of anybody you see ♪ ♪ there's a little bit of you and a little bit of me ♪ ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah ♪ ♪ there's a little bit of me ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah ♪ either you're left, or either

you're right ♪ ♪ there's a soul in every man tonight ♪ ♪ everyone will see ♪ that there's a little bit of you in a little bit of me ♪ ♪ yeah ♪ and the world goes round and round and round and round ♪ ♪ everybody walks on common ground ♪ ♪ no need to be afraid of anybody you siee ♪ ♪ a little bit of you ♪ and a little bit of me ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, ♪ ♪ it's a little bit of you ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah ♪ and a little bit of me ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, ♪ ♪ and a little bit of my ♪ yeah ♪ yeah

♪ we're going to walk on common ground ♪ ♪ with just a little bit of me ♪ [ applause ] >> i love that song. if that doesn't just brighten your day and make you feel better, there's just something wrong with you. that's all there is to it. be sure to get the album. melissa's going to be on a long concert tour. all that's available on her website, i hope you catch her concert near you. we'll be back. i'll have some closing thoughts right after this. ♪ nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, ♪ and a little bit

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of the folks in that documentary. their stories are incredible. that's it for now. this is mike huckabee from new york. opening bell 9:00 a.m. eastern on the fox business network. have a great sunday. >> on our buzz media this sunday the media exposed stunning security lapses by the secret service and helped shovel the director out the door. it leads to a constant chorus about why julia pearson hadn't been fired. >> director pearson should re-sign today. i don't understand why she has not re-signed as a matter of honor, duty, and service to this country. she has to go. >> you think they should go? >> i think so. >> look at why she wound up blaming the media. the press pushing back hard against the president for appearing to shift the