shannon: i'm shannon bream. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is a fox news alert. we are waiting two news conferences on ebola. in nebraska, doctors and family members are expected to give us an update on the latest ebola patient to arrive in the united states. the american photo journalist who contracted the disease while working in lie booyah, arrived in -- liberia arrived in omaha. in texas, governor rick perry will announce a new initiative and statewide response to the deadly virus. the first person diagnosed with the disease is currently in lit call condition in a texas hospital. this is "outnumbered." i'm andrea tantaros, here today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, jedediah bila, first timer, hashtag one lucky guy, john stossel, host of "stossel" on the fox business network. welcome, john. >> thank you. >> great to have you.

>> i'm just cringing in fear. >> oh, no. >> why? >> i don't believe you. >> four, program is "outnumbered." it is going to be some picking on going on here. >> before you came on or did you know? >> i was aware of that. i volunteered, but i'm just expecting stuff. >> are you ready? okay, you should. >> should have brought the big set of chains you have in your office thaw wore around for one of your "stossel" shows. protective cage. >> that was "the road to serfdom." do you want to talk about that? >> no. because you won't need it. so much for an al qaeda on the run as president obama has often put it. in its first major tv inner view, fbi director james comey, speaking to "60 minutes" about the terror networks in syria, saying one of them, khorasan group may be planning to attack the home lan very soon. >> they're a product of what i describe as metastasis of al qaeda. you have two in that particular

area. a group called al nusra and isil. they are both vicious, sort of inherittores of a lot of the man tell of al qaeda and present different threats in a lot of ways. >> but as dangerous as these al qaeda affiliates are, the fbi chief says americans should have confidence in the changes made since 9/11. >> is this as dangerous a time as al cade at its peak? >> no, i don't think so. >> what's different? >> we are better organized as an intelligence community. we're better organized and equipped at the border. we have relationships with our foreign partners. all of which make us better able to see dots and connect dots. the transformation since before 9/11 is, striking. >> but in the meantime an american family once again facing the grim reality that islamic extremists may soon execute their son. the parents of former army ranger and aid worker, peter kassig, pleading for isis to

show mercy to their son who converted to islam during his captivity. isis issuing a threat to kill kassig after they released a video friday, reportedly showing the beheading of british aid worker, alan henning, the fourth such video since august. set to show the execution of a western hostage. john, a lot of questions what the u.s. should be doing not just as a strategy in the region but with these hostages. seems like this is their strategy. isis must feel it is working and that's why they're doing it. so what us did the u.s. do? >> beats me. this is not my area of expertise. and i don't want to go there. i just, our usual response is to overreact and do too much and make more people hate us and fail. so but, i don't presume to be smart enough to know what we should do. >> the question, really, is president obama underestimating the power of the terrorists and the terrorist group that is isis in syria right now? you go back to comey, that was a

very interesting interview from comey and i went back. you referenced him the new director of the fbi. he took over in 2013. i go back to an original interview with the "new york times" when he first took over as the director of the fbi which was very telling. he said he actually underestimated the strength of these al qaeda offshoots saying that the he originally appreciated, and that there are many more al qaeda offshoots than he had originally imagined. and it is almost like, if those first few months that comey took over and learned so much and proven in his own beliefs but that message hasn't yet reached the president and white house and strategy they're implementing in syria. >> it is shocking it hasn't, harris, the reason, the justification for the airstrikes was to hit the khorasan group. the arguement was this khorasan group we hadn't heard about, catherine herridge warned us about and they were in intelligence briefings the president exactly wasn't reading they were a real threat to the

homeland. the reason from my perspective, we've been striking them but still the fbi director says they are still a threat to the homeland and we don't see -- >> imminent threat. >> we don't see anything different. in fact more mixed messages from washington. >> is your question about how much they were underestimated? because i got to tell you, i refuse to believe that we didn't know about a group that is co-run by the third cousin of usama bin laden. i just refuse to believe that. >> so you're saying it was ignored. >> ignored or at least put on the backburner to the point, well, how fast can they build up we know we already told the american public that al qaeda is on the run. >> we've got them where we want them. what can a third cousin do? what happened cora sawn is at its core, al qaeda, from everything we're learn about this group. why is that important. more than a caliphate, they want to hit us. their goal is a little bit different. so i can understand why all of a sudden seals like, oh, my

goodness. it might have been more i am mint than we thought. >> it was, jedediah, what i worry about if those warnings were in the intel members he didn't pick up then, what are the intel memos right now? what are we missing right now, next july we'll be sitting on this couch talking about? this is a huge headline today, former defense secretary leon panetta, saying president obama lost his way on the war against terror. take a listen. >> i thought he was a strong leader on, on security issues. he supported our operations at the cia. even strengthened them. i think he was tough on terrorism. he made the very tough decision on bin laden. but these last two years i think he kind of lost his way. you know, it has been a mixed message. a little ambivalence trying to approach these issues and trying to clarify what the role of this country is all about. he may have found himself again with regards to this isis crisis. i hope that's the case.

>> hmmm. crossing his fingers, i hope he found his way finally now. >> when did he have his way? i can't remember a time when people weren't watching this administration and feeling incredibly confused why we're involved in certain areas and not others. why there is always a delay with respect to syria. what is the long-term strategy? many people still can't articulate what we're doing and what they see as long-term strategy. if the president knew about these things, let's be honest, if he knew about this, and i don't buy he didn't know about all this, then he lied. he deceived everyone. he intentionally told us al qaeda was decimated. this was not a problem and for political purposes and will he do it again? will he do again to save a future democratic administration. >> critics are arguing on the left, the right isn't offering a better strategy either. >> and if obama had a strategy, i'm sure we would find fault with that. strategies from the central planners go bad again and again. >> but are we just not listening to our military advisors and

those that are the most skilled in the most experienced to advise us on the strategy that should be in place? >> how can we really know? the fbi warning, it scared me and i look back and saw, there have been dozens of imminent threats, christmas shoppers 2007, 2001, over next several days. spectacular attack, something big in the air. they don't know. we don't know. >> john, over the weekend lindsey graham was referencing this fight at the border, syrian-turkish border is a place where it is very, very violent. looks like a syrian city is poised to fall into the hands of isis. the turkish government, they're debating whether or not to be helpful but senator graham keeps saying boots on the ground. we need to put boots on the frowned. you and i will probably agree on this why would we put boots on the ground this is something turkey should step up and do, do you not agree? >> i agree.

other countries free loaded off our defense for years. russia put boots on the ground in afghanistan, right next to their country and a million dead people later, gave up. and the idea that we can solve this problem, i don't believe. >> you know i think one of the things most disturbing to hear, just how ineffective we've been so far with trying to move against isis, in particularly the kurdistan region of syria. now as they begin to cross the border into turkey, you have 150,000 people have taken refuge there. they fled their home country. crossed the border into turkey. they are just sitting there. it is unfathomable to me that a country wouldn't want to step up like turkey. i don't know what the options are for fighting isis. they have to start to move some of those people. >> sandra you have syrian kurds saying airstrikes aren't working but they're talking specifically this area that affects the turks and turkish children. look, i feel very sorry for what is happening over there, but it is not our job to go over and save that.

>> the solution, that wasn't supposed to be the end all, be all, especially the way we're implementing them. that was made very clear by the director of operations for the joint chiefs of staff. he basically said the airstrikes were the beginning. we would have, this is where the boots on the ground were called for, because we can't actually assess the damage. we can't actually assess effectiveness of these airstrikes without american intelligence and boots, literally on the ground, to give that feedback to military operations on the ground in the united states. >> should we have moved forward then, jedediah? if we didn't have the full-blown plan that would have achieved success, are the airstrikes for nothing? >> what is the point of being involved at all? if the president is saying no boots on the ground from get-go and military advisors say we absolutely need boots on the ground or it isn't going to work why do air strikes at all? you're getting involved in the start after fire but you're not putting it out in the end. that makes no sense.

that's why people at home say what are we doing? if we're going to do this, go all the way and see it to the end or don't get involved because we lose more. >> my question for the white house and for congress would be, you know what? put all of the political aspirations aside, debate this congress, before the midterms, with everybody's skin in the game. >> we're already involved. but we're already involved. >> because after the midterms, you have some no longer really invested. then you're invested fully. >> congress makes me service and democracy promotion crowd and lindsey graham's of the world, arguing to arm free syrian army. over the weekend he said, never mind that idea. bashar al-assad is a bad guy and he is fighting isis. should be his boots and army on the ground. i hope we're doing it behind the scenes. controversial but true. with the midterms less than a month away, new poll shows americans have dim view of the government protecting our safety

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36% moderately so and 51% not very, or not at all confident. these are some staggering numbers heading into the midterms, john. what is your take. >> thank goodness. because if people have confidence in government, it's a route to it ture ran any. this isn't true. it is higher under republicans and i think it is great. government is trying to run the schools, trains, protect us from foreign threats. if they stuck to what they ought to do, protect us from foreign threats, maybe they would do that better. people say i don't trust government. every time there is problem, oh, yeah, government has to do something. >> right. one might think this would be a big referendum on the current administration to have these sort of feelings under the american people. >> that would be good. >> if the government grew the way it shouldn't have gene under george w. bush in his second term, that's why a lot of conservatives were critical of government expansion under a republican, but, sandra, we've seen it quadruple under

president obama. i think if you look at thing, it was really at the point of the irs scandal people's faith in president obama and administration started to erode. i think people saw if the irs will target average americans, they could easily target me. and the spying of james rosen, they started to see things government has not really been accused of doing. then you go to school and they're trying to ban a bake sales. so it is everywhere you go. >> what you just said was so true about the irs scandal though. what happened with the irs? they were going to be integral in implementing obamacare, right? so, yes, another avenue they had into the american life. and i mean it just got bigger, even in that one agency. you're right, that was almost a sipping point. >> it hasn't rebounded since then. >> i like what peggy noonan wrote over the weekend in the "wall street journal," that when you watch the testimony during watergate, the bureaucrats acted scared. now they don't even act scared. we act like we're in charge and

we don't really care what you think. >> if you look at polling, with democrats, 27%, only 27% are confident that the government can protect us from terrorist attacks. i think that brings an interesting issue for the midterms in, because usually foreign policy does not really come into play. usually all about the economy. because of all the stories that you see front and center, isis, beheadings, terrorism, iminent threats, i think people are tuned into that. they're worried who they are going to elect and how that will potentially impact foreign policy the next few years. >> isn't that a bit of a had had scratcher? that there is so little confidence in the government to keep them safe yet we haven't had a large-scale terrorist attack on american soil since 9/11? >> i think they're worried about the mixed message from within the administration and incompetence. they want a check on barack obama. they want people there, supervise what he is doing, and take a vote on what he is doing and pressuring the administration to be on the

right page and reed the intelligence briefings. if not, have people check him on that and if not, this is what we see going on. >> very interesting midterm elections for sure. more new poll numbers painting a grim picture for president obama, worse than what the same question was asked about president clinton and president bush. what this could mean in the fall election. are awe victim of digital infidelity or engaged in it perhaps? why facebook make it easy for folks in relationships to connect with backups. we'll explain. ♪

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♪ >> you are watching "outnumbered." and we are glad that you are. voter opposition to the president's messages is at a 16-year high. and it looks like americans plan to use the midterms election, november fourth, to prove how they feel. a new "gallup poll" found 32% of voters want to send a message with their vote, they oppose the president. compare that to just 20% who say they will send a signal of support. and this remark from the president, just last week, is getting a lot of attention. >> i'm not on the ballot this fall. michelle's rhett happy about that. -- pretty happy about that. make no mistakes, these policies are on the ballot, every single one of them. >> the president's former senior advisor david axelrod, said he would have told the president to leave that line out of his speech. >> it was a mistake. but you know fundamentally, the issue that he should be driving

and the democratic party should be drive something forward-looking. the problem how are middle class people going to make a living in this country and what policies can we implement to help? we ought to have that debate. >> if you're a democrat, you have a great idea, doesn't matter, it is all about the president's policies. andrea? >> that is a huge mistake. republicans are jumping on it. it is about the president's policies and obamacare. if you look at ads and campaigns republicans are running in most of the states this fall, they're about obamacare. why, harris? you're seeing increases in double digits of premiums. these families, even though president obama said i changed my mind you can keep your plan, you might not be able to afford it. they're struggling to even pay deductibles, sometimes seeing out charity, just to be able to afford something that they had before. now, i don't know how you get around that as a party. i don't know how david axelrod said look forward because it is only going to get worse. >> how much does david axelrod

his messaging, the miss the messaging artist david axelrod? >> i love axelrod's comments on the show. yeah, maybe government is too big to manage. so some truth leaks out. i wish there were more opposition. 20, versus 32%. these policies are awful. they're making government big. they're micromanaging life. why isn't 80-20? >> john, that's good point. this is still the president still not getting the message that the american people are sending. it is not about him. by saying that, is he referencing saying you're not going to be voting, you wouldn't be voting for me again, my policies. >> that is exactly what he is saying. >> does he not understand it is policies american people are not approving. by the way, economic policies are disturbing. all the polls, show number one things on voters mind is the economy of the we can talk about foreign policy, health care all day long. it is still the economy.

still jobs. number of people in part-time work still so concerning. those policies. >> health care ties into the economy. people are seeing their jobs, cut their hours and forced to go into part-time jobs because of obamacare. >> are they? i mean a lot of people seem, they think, because of these risk corridors where the government secretly giving money to insurance companies, a lot of people think they're paying less and getting free stuff. >> i don't know one person that has it that loves it. >> what i got from this the president doesn't care if democrats lose, if he looks, if 2010, democrats back away from him. democrats all around the country were running ads against obamacare in 2010. he knows that is what they have to do to win. they have to distance himselfs from all policies highly unpopular, he knows full well he is jeopardizing their opportunity to win s that not a priority for him? does he not care? >> he was purposely trying to hurt his own party? >> he deems himself as far more

important and his legacy, and his, his ego is far more important than those wins. >> i think that, if he loses the senate, it would be a massive blow to his ego. i completely disagree. he does not want that happening on his watch. however, if he were very shrewd he would be thinking you know what happens, best thing selfishly for me. i can use the executive pen and blame everything on the republican congress for the next two years. >> i asked this in jest, what is it like to have a birthday and sit in the room with this president though? if you're trying to run and have the focus on yourself as a candidate, it is very difficult when the president stands up and says it is all about him. >> he is a careerist. >> you know, we saw the first lady, on the stump on the their 22nd anniversary on friday. i'm here to help candidates. we haven't seen very much of her lately. why do you think that is? >> you know, i don't know. i don't know why --

>> she doesn't like to campaign. i believe her. she is caught up in other issues. she is in food and knew is tricks. i don't -- nutrition. i don't think that is the part of her job she likes. >> the president just commented on how michelle is happy to see this term in office coming to an end. >> she played a big role last time because she has high favorability ratings. if i'm her, i say the same thing, you might lose the senate. don't try to bring me in to clean up. >> scary thought. >> we're going to shift from the president to back ups. the rise of social media is leading to rise of so-called, digital infidelity. a new university of indiana study finding facebook users to go to the site to keep in touch with backups, exes or friends they know they can connect with romantically if their current relationship doesn't work out. men have backburner lovers at twice the rate of women. researchers say it is widespread

among both sexes. these emotional affairs, online and on your phone, could be affecting your relationship. all right. john, what do you think about this? what do you think about men having these back ups twice as much as women? this actually did surprise me. why would that be? >> i question the survey because 50% of the women have them and men have it at twice the rate. that means all men have them? [laughter]. what exactly is a backup. look, facebook is great. if it can increase the number of relationships you have, if you're not cheatings on your spouse, it could be a good thing. when i reserved divorce, i found women do better after divorce, maybe not financially, emotionally, women have average six friend you share intimate stuff with. man on average have one and usually the ex-wife. >> wow. >> harris, back-ups are you really invested in a relationship and ups and downs if you have somebody waiting in

the wing the second things get difficult? >> i'm double-minded on this. most of me, i won't say part, most of me believes you want to give all of your soul, your heart, your trust, your love into that relationship to make it grow. that is the only way that it works. there is a part of me understands why you want a back-up in some relationships. if you're in toxic one. studies show people stay in them far too long. they're just not ready to leave yet, they're afraid to leave, whatever the reason is. if you're in a toxic relationship, the idea of a backup when you're ready to go, i could understand it. that is not how i live but i totally get it. >> i have to go back to john. saying that divorce is actually good for women. >> oh, no. >> i'm not picking on you. >> i said, it is assumed after the divorce, sneaky men we hide the money. we're better financially. and that may be true. but emotionally, women are healthier because you have better relationships. >> so that being said, the

researchers, this is indiana university, right? >> yes. >> they point out that this is nothing new. >> yeah. >> but new aspect of it is the social media aspect. females, there is a trail of you keeping your back-ups. there was no trail or evidence of this, we always all, not speaking for myself, john stossel looking at me funny, but that we've always kept backups. this is no different than at anytime. >> with the record. >> something wrong with the relationship, right? if things are going well and both the man and women feel they get love and relationship in the relationship they're not looking for a back-up. as you point out with social media, it is easier to see the high schoolboy friend and comment on the photos. you look really good. if the husband is not giving you attention you're getting it somewhere else. usually back-up means, big, big problems. >> the respondents were saying that they had romantic or sexual conversations with two people outside of the person they were with. >> that's a lot.

>> one wasn't even a lot. you had to have your back-up for your back-up basically. >> 50% of the women on this couch would have a back-up. i will not call anybody out, that seems really high to me. >> no. seems pretty realistic. >> i think so. especially if you're not in a very serious relationship. >> or one -- >> you've got plan, a, b, c, d. >> jedediah and andrea have back-ups. >> i don't have a back-up. maybe i'm lazy. >> what are the ones you haven't gotten out of yet? >> what about, john, people that blame technology? this is technology's fault because it is so easy. they don't want to take any personal responsibility and blame the digital age. i'm sure that happens all the time. >> they do. bill o'reilly does it. rape is down. divorce isn't up. teen pregnancy is down. this is w i have a 1,000 back-ups, mostly women. and i have conversations because i play volleyball with them or

something. these are friendships, i wouldn't have had without facebook. i like it. >> careful with your back-ups. i'm just saying. >> stepped up screening for ebola, the feds may be doing versus another infected american that arrives in the u.s. today and first patient diagnosed with the deadly virus in the u.s. now in critical condition at texas hospital. medical officials are keeping an eye on another dangerous virus now being linked to the death of a 4-year-old boy. after the show, "outnumbered overtime," harris. ot, baby. log on to foxnews.com/outin beard. send us your comments. john is waiting patiently. tell us the comment you want from him and rest of the us. twitter, email, facebook. you better be there. i'm just saying. ♪

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you know about now in the ebola situation in the united states. the centers for disease control and prevention is now considering giving every passenger arriving from ebola-stricken african nation as medical checkup when they get to a us air port. the director of the cdc, dr. tom frieden is, is set to meet later today with president obama to discuss this with him. the american photo journalist, who got sick with the ebola virus in liberia is being treated in the nebraska medical center after arriving in omaha. his parents addressed the media a few moments ago. let's watch. >> it is quite frightening and he is hanging in and sounds very strong and i think he shares in the relief the rest of his family, that he has bee come back for good medical treatment here. >> that of course is his mom. in texas, medical officials say the condition of this man, the liberian man in dallas hospital is worsening, now in critical

condition. that is a downgrade over the weekend. they are saying, quote, they hope he recovers. he became ill a few days after arriving in america. i want to first start with this meeting with the president this morning. what should the president do next? should we hear from him, john? >> on ebola? yes, he should get up and say this is overhyped risk being pumped by news media and us, especially you women who are more scared of ebola, i'm being sexist here. there are real risks in life and ebola -- >> not one of them. >> may prove to be. unlikely. hard to catch. the regular flu kills thousands and thousands of people. there are so much other stuff. driving a car in the rain, promiscuous sex, drinking too much. there are things to really worry about. this distracts us from that. >> doctors in new york, they're treating this as when, if not hit scenario because of what happened in texas and they're

prepared for this. >> the problem with i say this is overhyped, john, i tend to lean in that direction, we don't know that much about the ebola, we really don't. you and i don't, top medical doctors in the country really don't. >> right. >> no one can make an accurate forecast if it will be contained or spread violently or not. that uncertainty -- >> what they said about sars, bird flu, flesh-eating bacteria, all the stuff, global warming that is going to kill us. we don't know enough. >> why isn't better to be safe, not sorry? harris, this was story in august. the when president said it would not come here, he was in martha's vineyard. a lot of things we are doing now, he should have done then. look, i get it, not everyone will contract ebola. there is no need for hysteria. like the fence jumper. one fence-jumper, okay. what if five people at one hospital contracts it? you could shut down an entire

hospital, and by the way we don't have the money. i know they think we have so much money. this country is broke. it is broke. and i don't think we are prepared to handle this. if it escalates, in a way that they say they are. >> okay. so, speaking to your point though, remember that magical mystery drug, they had given? it hasn't an official name, they had given the doctor who first got here? and then now i'm reading reports that the cdc is saying that they don't have access to more of that right away. if we do have a situation where we have multiple people who might need treatment like that, it's a good question to ask, what do we do? real quickly with you, jedediah, the steps talked about now, the airport screening. >> i would like to hear him talk about that. i would like extra screenings at u.s. airports. i don't think it hurts anyone. i don't think it causes alarm. it makes me feel better that airport people are eye equipped 9 to deal with whatever, like sandra said we don't know what will happen here, who will come here. we don't have all the details.

in my opinion you don't have all the details and dealing with a serious medical issue, be prepared. being prepared never hurts. i would like to see the president on top of. that if it gets to point where flights are restricted so be it in order to protect american citizens, be it. >> picking on us for being women. we'll see what happens to you. >> you're all wrong. >> good luck during the commercial. >> yay. >> we're weeks away from the elections that will decide control of congress. a new round of polling shows who could come out on top. what it could mean for the balance of power inside of the beltway. plus, it is one of childhood's simple pleasures, swinging in the wind. now, why they could be phased out, swings, we mean, at a school near you. ♪ (vo) rush hour around here

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>> fox news alert. a suburban chicago man has been arrested trying to travel overseas to support the savages of isis. this is just coming into to us now. federal prosecutors say fbi agents arrest ad 19-year-old named, mohammed hamza on saturday evening at o'hare

international airport. they're accusing him of attempting to travel overseas to suort terrorism as i mentioned. he is charged with trying to attempt to provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations. this is a developing story. we're just getting details. as we learn more we'll bring it to you. >> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. let's get to eric shawn in for jon scott in what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." eric: we'll is have more on that story in "happening now." stories on control of the senate. less than a month for election day. both predictions predict that the gop has 60% chance of taking control of that house. we'll have details about that. there is the surprise move by the supreme court today. the justices declined to hear five appeals. that means gay marriage can go ahead in several states including virginia and utah. that brings to number of 30, the states where gay marriage will soon legal. not just ebola, but another death from the enterovirus.

a respiratory disease they say spreading in 43 states. dr. manny alvarez will be here about that outbreak and get an update on ebola. all that ten minutes from now at the top of the hour. back to you guys. >> we'll be watching, eric, thank you. >> i'm "outnumbered" on the show but the control freak women have allowed me one story -- [laughter]. playground staples being removed from some schools in washington state. one school district is phasing out swings because of safety and liability issues. they say it comes after pressure from insurance companies because of all the pieces of playground equipment, swings are blamed for the most injuries. >> men probably made this decision. >> i bet they did. men dominate insurance companies. and at least it is insurance companies, i'm just kidding about -- >> we know. >> being control freaks? >> insurance -- >> truth is out. >> insurance companies bake decisions on real data because they have money on the line. when governments ban things it is arbitrary often. so you know, how much does a kid

learn from a swing? i'm more upset if the jungle gyms where they learn victim's control when they're banning them. >> i think they learn a lot from a swing. five swings, 20 kids. the kids have to wait their turn. it is participation pushing another child on a swing. so they're cooperating. i mean i think you learn a lost lessons on the playgrounds, not just jungle gyms but the swings. and kids are falling down. the playground is where you learn to take risks. you always see that kid who breaks his wrist. >> learn consequences. >> i will not do stupid move he just did. it is actually teaching kids not to take risks which we don't do. we protect them and put them in hazmat suits. they get into the real world. they don't know how to handle falling down. >> i have a tv special coming up about that. i'm glad you mentioned. >> i didn't even know. >> children learn how to outpace each other. i have two daughters. one five, one seven. one can swing higher than the

other. they learned about gravity. i taught my girls how you fall through the air and unsupported. how your tummy feels. you were there to catch them. this has to do with responsibility and accountability after adult. i don't think you strike the swing. >> other insurance companies say have padding on the ground. have smarter swings. >> they have entire parks where there are little cut up tires you fall, don't get hurt. >> come on. we got this far with regular gym set. now we need -- >> i feel like almost anything could be potentially dangerous. when you have a bunch of kids on the playground, teachers not watching, parents watching, it is not the swing. kids walk in front of the swing, behind the swing, when the swing is moving. i feel it is more about parental involvement and having adult around, a, tell you with what to do and not to do. i went with rules. my mom said don't do this, don't do that. stuck in my head. if i walk in front of the swing i knew i would get hit. >> keep the swing. like the swing.

some of these swings on some of these playgrounds recently, some people know what i'm talking about, they look like swinging car seats. like they're full on seats with seatbelts. getting out of hand! >> some fun. >> moving right along, reading is good for the mind but now a new study claims that a racy book may actually hurt young women, if you read it. so don't read it? ♪

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a warning about reading 50 shades of grey. scientists say the controversial erottic romance novels could have a dramatic effect on young women. 18- 24 years old who read all of the books are 65 percent more likely to binge drink and 53 percent having sex with multiple partners and researcher ares found those who read just the first book are likely to have eating disorders and verbally abusive partner. >> this is cause and affect,

right? >> yeah. >> if you are one of those people you are more likely to pick up the 50 shades of grey. >> this book is not corrupting innocent teens, they are already drinking and have sex. >> look at the span. how long was the study. you got to read all three books. >> who ever reads all three? >> were they drinking while they are reading? >> too young to be reading the books? >> i am happy if they are reading. >> you don't care what they are read something>> no. >> and that is fine as long as they are just diving in to it. >> i rather they not. and the scare stories that roll out of the media and causation and correlation is not

causation. >> this book for adults is one thing but younger girls and guys it is it unhealthy. it is okay to tie up and gag and spank? >> you read the book? >> a good friend read and gave me the notes. >> i watched sex in the city for years and didn't turn into a real life samantha and all women are gullible. and make it. and they have surmised that we are all of the same. and that is a rich country and how do we help them spread the wealth. and what time can we catch it.

put down the 50 shades of gray. and we'll stay right here for outnumbered on the web. and click the overtime tab and see you right back here at "happening now", that starts now. >> a fox news alert in the fib fight against terror. the fbi arrested a chicago man charging him with trying to travel overseas to join isis. prosecutors are charging him with attempting to provide support for a terror group. you are looking at a copy of the complaint against him. he was taken into custody in o'hare national airport on saturday night and had a round trip ticket from o'hare toi stanbul. >> the judge ordered khanheld until the hearing on thursday. we'll continue to follow the breaking