we will you back in an hour. "outnumbered" starts now. fox news alert. i am harris faulkner and the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the united states has died. his condition was declining, doctors tried experimental ebola drugs and eric duncan was admitted to the hospital on september 28th and the news is breaking that he is dead. casey is live in dallas. a statement coming from the mayor there. >> reporter: yeah, harris, the mayor is talking and the hospital is talking, a lot of people are. i want to talk to you about the timeline first of all. this is crucial.

according to the world health organization, someone has the ability of dying from ebola 6-16 days after they first start showing symptoms. today would have been day 14 that thomas duncan first started showing the symptoms and that is within the timeline from the world health organization. the other big number we need to keep in mind and that is 21 day and that is the maximum period of incubation. thomas duncan's family members and other members of the dallas and north texas community had been exposed to him after he started showing symptoms and that is why they are being monitored. four members of his family who had been staying in an apartment complex, a tiny apartment with thomas duncan when he first

started showing symptoms, are still in quarantine and the end of that will be on october 15th. this community is anxiously awaiting for the clock to tick down in terms of if anyone else here is going to show any symptoms or if mr. duncan himself was the only one with ebola here in texas. so, again, let's get to the statements because we have reactions coming in from all over. david laky is the commission for texas state health services and released this statement reading in part the past week has been an enormous test of our health care system but for one family it has been more personal and they lost a dear member of their family and we are keeping them in our thoughts. the doctors, nurses and staff provided compassionate care but

ebola attacked the body in many ways. we will continue every effort to contain the threat of the virus and protect people from the threat. no one else in the dallas-fort worth area showing symptoms of the deadly virus but we are playing a waiting game as we wait for the 21 days to tick down. october 15th. one week from today would be the end of that 21 day period. >> this has been a tough ride. first the death of their loved one and now a waiting period. we will bring you back if the news warrants. thank you. this is "outnumbered." i am sandra smith and here is harris faulkner, andrea and today's hash tag is john rich

from big and rich. we are excited to have you. >> i love the show. thanks for inviting me to come on. >> you have a new album out? >> it is going to be fun. >> we are going to talk about that. >> sounds good. welcome. first, let's get to this, when it comes to this white house where is all of the loyalty? the man who was president obama's cia and pentagon chief saying that while he believes his former boss has the guts to make the decision, the president fails to make the trigger, adding that needs to change to beat isis. >> it is possible obama is not up to the job. >> i don't believe that. >> you don't want to believe that. >> i want this president to be successful and this country to be successful. and i think deep down he knows what needs to be done. but what he has to do is develop

the will to fight, to get into ring, in order to make it happen >> he better get on it. >> it seems like one after another of the president's former men and one notable women have torn into his handling of hot spots. robert gates blasted him over america's withdraw from afghanistan at the beginning of the year and gates said the united states will have to put boots on the ground to handle isis. and then hilary clinton criticised the president for rejecting her suggestion of arming the syrian troops. and just this week the man who helped put president obama in the white house former senior advisor said the president made

a mistake saying this economic policies will be on the ballot next month and that line is already starring in gop ads. for him to make sure strong comments and words against the president's current foreign policy four weeks before mid-term brings up very curious questions >> you have to realize this isn't just analysis. this isn't a memoir of someone looking back fondly on this administration. what is he doing that might help hilary clinton? somehow will getting republican majority in the senate and house be more beneficial to future president clinton who will not have to deal with a split congress? >> and john, to that point, he made specific remarks and

hillary made a strong case while she was secretary of state and that was ignored. >> i have to tell you as a guy who is not in politics and out there working, just your answer about them maneuvering and trying to get someone in the white house so it can be like this but in the meantime the world is going to hell. we are not playing politics. we are living and watching this go down. it is maddening >> what happened if you were in your head so much you could not write a song? there has to be something intuitive in order for you to do your job well. that is what he is saying, i think. he is saying he is passive, can't act and he is a whiner. if you did those three things you would not have hit records.

>> if everyone likes you are not doing the right thing all of the time. there should be a part of the public that doesn't like what you are doing because you made a decision and went after it saying it wasn't the most poplar but it is right and i am going to go there. the confusion of saying one thing now and another thing later trying to make people happy -- i don't need the president to tell me what he is going to do. >> it is almost the lack of decision that has been at the top of the mind of the american people. it is like they are looking for the president to make a decision and the indecision is what hurts the most. >> the big question is what is the president doing that garners such disloyalty to the people close to him? he is not a republican and he is not being oppositional for political reasons and he does have a book out but a lot of people do. >> let's look at the timing of the release. >> i don't think that takes you off the list.

the timing of it being right before mid terms is interesting, i think. but when you look at the list of people coming out saying i question the president when he did this and calling him on his stuff -- that smacks as such disloyalty. >> there is the politics and policy of it. i found this to be the most fascinating interview yet with leon. he seemed scared. to be the former secretary of defense and being that worried and call the president complaining and missing opportunities and saying he lost his way -- i was shocked. my jaw was on the floor. the politics are fascinating. yes, he is a clinton supporter. but separating hilary clinton from obama is going to be like separating siamese twins. one will not make it off the

operating table. and who lost last time? it was hilary clinton. and he defended her when o'reilly pressed her about the security. >> this is a gates and everyone is putting money on hillary was he is the dying twin. he look at the current strategy, the one on the table, president obama heading to the pentagon for an in -person briefing on isis as we mark the two months since the airstrikes began. and deadly riots breaking out in turkey ocountry sitting by as they battle the forces there. reports of anywhere from three to more than a dozen people killed in clashes with riot police. if the area falls, isis would control 60 miles of the

syrian/turkey board. listen to what the joint chief chairman told abc news. >> i am fearful it will fall. isis is a learning enemy and they know how to use populations and when we get a target we will take it. >> and where isis is concerned they are saying that area isn't their top priority. sdwl >> we understand the concern of those in that town but there is a limit to what air power can do and what you can do militarily against these guys. they want to hold ground and territory. hitting their finance centers, taking away revenue, removing command and control is the focus inside syria. >> john, how do you digest all of this? >> turkey is a nato country, correct? and they are giving harbor to isis and their military is

standing by as these cock roaches are swarming in putting us at risk and i am saying why are they part of nato? how much money are we sending turkey? what is the penalty for harboring the terrorist? >> can we trust turkey? they are protecting their own army but the syrian army should make sure the town doesn't fall. not us. >> not to mention all of the syrians that left and became refugees on the other side in turkey. but yesterday they unleashed gas canisters on the kurds the people trying to defend off isis inside turkey.

so it isn't they are not fighting but they are harming the people that need the help the most. >> the kurds are as bad as isis. if you are against authority and a muslim fundamentalist how do you get to syria? you go to turkey. and the administration is saying we have no part and don't support isis but passively they certainly do. if we don't want to send ground troops in someone has to because the airstrikes are not working in iraq or syria. so if you have to have boots it has to be syria or turkey, probably both, but it isn't going to happen >> the airstrikes are driving isis into the populated area so they can fold in with that even more. and now they will have a divide to smuggle anything they need if it falls. fighters, equipment, oil. >> you cannot be half hearted in war and that is what we are

doing and what people predicted. >> with the off field scandals that have been rog rocking the nfl why has it taken till today for the nfl owners to be educated on domestic violence? and the famous kiss in time square in celebration of world war ii and why some feminist say it is an assault not an expression of joy. join us by logging on to foxnews.com/outnumbered. tweet us topics you want to hear more about as well. more about as well.

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knocking out his then fiance. he is considering letting outside experts considering the suspension for violating the policy. and adrian peterson is due in a texas courtroom to face charges of abusing his 4-year-old son with a switch. his attorneys say he is pleading not guilty. john, they are getting together for the first time >> they are a bunch of grown men and need to watch a film to learn about what domestic abuse is? how to treat a lady and kid? where i come from if a guy lays his hands on a woman the wrong way he gets a lot of hands on him. the only way this breaks is someone to break you from it. ray rise's career is ruined -- rice -- you took away the

biggest thing you have and that is how you got him. that shows everybody else don't act like that. unfortunately you have to have a punishment in place to not beat your wife or kids >> i am still sickened the police in the city didn't charge him saying they both laid hands on each other. he knocked her out! >> and dragged her from an elevator. and we will see this with sexual harassment seminars and they will do this in case the victim takes recourse. >> it seems like someone running hr at the nfl says i have an idea and let's get ahold of the video and make them watch it. i agree with you. the only thing they understand

is the bottom dollars. take away their money. that is what the team players and coaches understand. >> i don't get why you are against them showing a video? >> it is fine. >> is the video going to change the culture in the nfl? >> a closed door meeting to say if you don't comply we will bring the hammer down of pain to you. not let me hit rewind, did you see that? >> talking about it is a big distraction that the biggest nugget is they are going to outsource who penalizes the players? the league can't make these decisions on their own. >> the players union hasn't been happy with how they have in house judicated the rulings. one of the women on the four

panel advisory board is that athletes have been role models since being on the field and this could be a good chance to tap into that. >> the fact they are role models isn't the problem of the nfl. i go back to parenting on this. i don't know if it is good for children to idolize someone in the nfl. i don't know if they have to set the standard or pave the way for a child watching a football game at home. >> no doubt it will make more news as it wraps up. the dea is getting slapped with a lawsuit for using racy photographs in an fake online profile to catch criminals. the problem is the woman in the pictures is real and she said the feds stole that. the dea says they have the right to do that. does the judge agree and and what it says about privacy for

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♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." with less than four weeks to go to the midterms some celebrities are doing their part to get younger americans to vote. in the new rock the vote video from folks who claim to be non-partisan, rapper little john and actress lena dunham, among stars sounds like a dream list for liberals. you may be hard-pressed to find a conservative cause mentioned.

♪ >> i'm darren, i'm turning out for education. >> iej, i'm turning out for equality. >> my name is lena. i'm turning out for reproductive rights. >> sorry. some of the other issues highlighted, legalization of marijuana, global warming, awareness, gun control. so kennedy former mtv-vj. >> this nonsense was around in the '90s. we had to deal with the drivel back in the '90s on mtv. completely partisan. wholly biased. all they're trying to do is get younger voters signed up for the democratic party. that's it. you don't see going, i'm voting to repeal obamacare, hoping that my legislator will somehow set the country back on the right course. no one is walking around saying, only way we defend ourself from

isis if we own guns. repeal gun control. >> kennedy mentioned obamacare, john, the administration moved to make obamacare eligible. you can stay on your parents plan. these kids were would they worry about obamacare if they're getting health care from their parents? >> they probably wouldn't. >> you think they care about pot and global warming? >> what kid doesn't care about pot, man? i'm joking. but i mean, i think when it comes to entertainer and artist, whatever, if you want to yell about what you're for, go yell bit, as loud as you want to. that's fine. i've done it. lil' john does it. he is a good friend of mine. we were on celebrity apprentice together. we've done music together. if you can believe, big and rich and lil' john. i don't know that many fans want to hear what we say. >> i don't think you will see a dent in polls numbers. >> turn down for what? >> i love the beat. you were talking about lil' john, work it at.

you see lil' john in the video with the biggest marijuana cig you ever seen in your life. marijuana, with an m. i guess my point is, turn down for what is about gets getting high, drunk and not wanting to get sober for any particular reason. just to use that song. i'm not saying i don't like the beat. question the thought. what is the agenda here? >> sandra, i'm just going to play devil's advocate, when you ask the mtv audience what they care about, could it be that the issues they're talking about are important to these kids? >> very possibly. look, somebody has to do something because young people are not voting. 2012, 45% of young people, 18 to 29 actually cast a ballot. 20% below the national average. so, john, they're making, somebody is making an effort to get the young people to go out and vote. we talked about a poll the other day.

shows they are disinterested in these midterm elections. very small percentage. >> feel like government has failed them. >> do we want them to vote if they don't know issues though? >> absolutely don't. >> do you really want to motivate them to vote and be ignorant at polls? rap the beat to some kind of policy. >> 13% youth unemployment, kennedy you would think the young people -- >> they don't care about jobs. they don't care about the labor participating rate. >> policy rap. going to be big. >> i'll be in your video. >> no, it is okay. >> we're having two separate conversations here. we're going to move on. a dea age sent being sued set up a fake facebook account and using this woman's name and racy photos to lure criminals. he found the photo on her cell phone. so scary. the feds say woman promised to cooperate with what is going on in investigations after she was

arrested. she didn't know they would use her identix another set of photos on the fake facebook page. even showed her young little boy and her niece. her lawsuit raises expectation about the right to prove privacy and what the government can do with our personal information. this is scarery, john. this woman did not consent to having the pictures given. they didn't ask her. they can't do this. the government can't -- >> are you sure. >> they can't. >> are you sure. >> i'm sure. they're the government, will she challenge them in court. it is very scary. >> it is very scary, like, why i tried to hang on to blackberry as i could, because i could take battery out and kill the phone. iphones, can't turn them off. everybody's tracked and pictures are everywhere. i think it is, that is pretty low move, even if it is legal for them to do it. >> it is not. sandra? >> she didn't figure it out until a friend started asking

about pictures she was posting on her facebook page. poor thing this is something we'll continue to face. twitter is the fighting the government for their users to protect their privacy and their rights. and their personal information. this is going to be a huge story going forward because everybody is putting everything about themselves on the internet, on facebook, on twitter. it is out there. the government is saying we have legal access to it. >> you know what they -- it goes to reilly versus california, which is a unanimous supreme court decision which justice said, can't take cell phone in traffic stop. they allege the single mom was part after drug ring. she got probation. absolutely they don't have the right. i don't trust the dea they have been working with the nsa. how exactly is that fighting terrorism and keeping country safer if they're just prolonging the drug war -- >> unfairly incarcerated. >> they were not public pictures. seized from her cell phone. she did not post them. this is privacy issue. as sandra mentioned, you sign

away the stuff if you put it out there. then i see where the government said hey, you consented, we can get the pictures this is different story. >> i wonder the slippery slope we're going down in all-out desperation to try to stop what is going on with terrorism. because it can become an excuse for why we do just about anything. we can widen the law, you know what? in purview trying to find out what so-and-so is doing with domestic terrible rich, we can take anything on your phone. if we take you into custody everything you have is ours. it starts to get wider and wider. >> that is the problem. it is such an abuse of power with you we end up giving more power to agencies completely opaque there. no transparency. you don't know when you're being surveiled. >> i think that is reason to riot in the streets. you notice the sidewalks are empty here in new york. talking about giving away everything. >> you must be constantly, feel like your pictures and your -- >> there are no pictures of my family anywhere.

you can not find them. you know, i got a 3-year-old son, 4-year-old son. you can not find an image of those boys. can not find it. i think it is up to parents really to throw walls up around the kids as much as they can. tell them as soon as they're big enough to pick up ipad, do that, three-year-olds can do, mine is dominating that thing. this is not a toy at end of the day. this is what can turn out. they're going, yeah, yeah. you put it in their mine early on. they have to deal with that their whole life. >> people are willing to give up some level of privacy in the name of national security but when you see this government targeting conservative groups, targeting individuals for their political beliefs, you start to say, wait a minute here, this is not what it is designed to do. are you using it to capture terrorists that is one thing, spying on average americans, not cool. four terror suspects arrested in london. they face more questioning today as scotland yard investigate what is it calls islamist-related plot. we'll have the latest from the u.k. you won't belief what some

students at harvard had to say, when asked who is the bigger threat to world peace, america oar isis? here is a taste. >> what is a bigger threat to world peace, america or isis? >> to world peace? oh, america.

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♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." which is a bigger threat to the world, and world peace? is it america or isis? check out what some harvard students said. group for campus reform posed that very question. >> what is a greater threat to world peace, america or isis? >> i think american imperialism and our protection of oil interests in the middle east are destablizing the region and allowing groups like isis to gain power. >> as western civilization we're to blame for a lot of problems we're facing now. i don't think anyone would argue

we didn't create the problem of isis ourselves. >> we're at some level the cause of it. >> the amount of spending america has on causes of potential destruction in the world is really outlandish. >> so outlan issue. the world of cambridge. >> all of these students were reading matt damon's suggested reading list from "goodwill hunting." >> how insane is this? >> there is a basis for that strain of logic and, i will give certain people who feel that america's encroachment and overglobalization, whatever, blah, blah, you could make a case for that but are these kids able to make it? >> i like the way you phrased it, well-armed. i like to see which one of them is willing to defend this country? who is willing to sign up to do that? in other places in the world to be a citizen you have to serve. and i'm not saying that that is necessarily the case at cambridge or harvard or whatever

we're talking about, but i might have wanted to press in with them. who do you look to protect the freedoms of this country? if you're going to bash it so much? think about it. >> you're chomping at the bit. >> like i said, they're a threat to the gene pool, anybody that says stuff like that. you're tracking about, is america perfect? no. never has been perfect. there is no such thing as a perfect country but to say isis is less of a threat than america is? i mean these are obviously kids that don't know somebody that is serving. do you have anybody in their family ever taught them anything about this country and what the dna of our country is about. if it wasn't for us, hitler would be running europe, the germans would have europe and japanese would have everything else left over, had we gone over not dropped hundreds of thousands of guys dying over there. they never had a granddaddy like mine and said had a daddy like mine. that is american flag and let me show you how to do the pledge of

allegiance every morning. those are a bunch of not-nosed brats. >> do you think anti-patriotic to hold view or pure liberal indoctrination in schools. >> both of those. not matt damon's reading list, president obama's reading list. the same quote she gave, was similar quote he gave in the his cairo speech. america is downright oppressive the way it handled the world. the united states of america, the john hit on this, we're the greatest nation in the world. we're responsible for emancipating how many countries? we help and save. we rebuild them afterward. we trade with them. that is not taught in schools. these kids have anti-american sentiment which is, which is really, it is disgraceful. >> one thing to be critical -- >> like ebola. we're going there. we're sending our people there. our experts in the military to go there and save lives. we feed more.

we save more, we rescue more than any country on the planet. with are exceptional. >> coming from a military family i was truly offended by 99% of the comments that i just heard there. but, what i fear is that you're pointing out, this is university thing. you know, as a sample size, samples size might have been harvard here but i think, that you would hear very similar sentiments, if you went to university campuses across the country right now, up fortunately. >> yeah, no, i don't disagree with that at all. but i do think, there is argument to be made, maybe we don't have to get into every global conflict, especially we don't have objectives or end game. >> what is infuriating about that to me, okay to be critical of our country, critical of anybody in this country and country itself, you can be critical of it and have your opinion, but given option of isis or united states of america, which one is worse and you're going america is worse than isis? really? that is scary thing to know that is in their heads. they are at harvard. they will be running stuff.

>> i don't mind getting off oil. everyone should drive a tesla. or a bicycle. i'm all about it. >> how about a horse? come on, what about a horse. save a horse, ride a cowboy. i had to get that in there. figured it out. >> texas health officials announcing a short time ago that the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the u.s. has unfortunately died. this is dozens of people in dallas are still being monitored for possible symptoms. we'll have the very latest. and, this classic photo capture ad sailor kissing a girl in times square right here in new york city. that was at the end of world war ii. well, now one group is calling for statue based on this iconic photo to be torn down. wait until you hear why. stay with us. ♪

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first eric shawn in today for jon scott for what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> how are you, harris. as we reported today, thomas eric duncan has died.

he was infected with ebola bringing it to dallas from liberia. several people he came into contact with remain under quarantine. question ares growing how easy to could be to transmit ebola. we'll have a live report from dallas and talk to an infectious disease doctor about this. control of the u.s. senate comes down to a few midterm races. iowa, north carolina and colorado. when it comes to voters what is really motivating them? plus we'll have the latest on the desperate fight for the syrian town of kobani. it intensifies today as isis tariffs close in. turkey's president predicts it will fall but what is turkey's role? really? violent kurdish protests leave at least 14 dead. all that at the top of the hour. >> eric, we'll see you then. thank you. >> it is one of the most iconic images of world war ii, the black and white photo of an american sailor kissing a nurse in times square. sexy and june lant but they were celebrating the end of the war as the entire nation and the world were but now some

feminists are reportedly demanding that a statue based on that kiss on display in france be torn down because they say it shows a sexual assault. the group, which has start ad petition says that the sailor should have asked if he could kiss the woman instead of forcing himself upon her like a filthy sailor however the director of the museum says where the statue displayed, the nurse in the photo always maintained she was happy to receive the kiss. >> i'm sure she was. i can tell. she had her leg up. when you kiss us and put our leg up like that, that means we like night i learned that from "happy days." joni, with the first kiss had her leg come up. >> have you seen some. art in france? there is every possible thing you can think of right in your face and everything is going on, you go that is what it is upset? is it american thing going on? i don't know. pretty ridiculous. >> doesn't it cheapen sexual

assault which is one of the most serious charges you can level at another human being. equating that moment with something so horrific -- >> yeah. >> these women sound really fun to date. i don't know about you. >> they they ever had a real kiss. >> maybe not. as long as you know the guy -- >> they don't kiss in france. >> and you're into him, women love when guys kiss him like that and you know the guy's name and you actually like him. i think they also, they just play into that feminist stereotype, they're angry and they hate any kind of romance. they're not doing any themselves any favor. >> this group's spokeswoman, could have asked the nurse if they could can kiss them with joy? if they said -- >> they would have said no, you're a geek. >> what is the matter with you? >> granted it doesn't help it in this day and age and we can't apply, you know, our modern-day politically correct morals to, you know something that happened in a moment that, here is a pent-up sailor, who comes to times square to celebrate with a

beautiful nurse, who hasn't had fantasies about both those groups. >> what you're say something so true. you have to take into account what was going on in the world at the time and what was coming to an end. what a momentous occasion happening in this country and around the world. people were celebrating all over the place. >> i think they need more party girls over there. they need some redneck party gills to come flooding in there. i brought something for you, a little red nick riviera thing. >> whoo. >> redneck girls do it better. send a bunch these to france? >> we call them whoo girls and drive by and whoo girl. >> what you doing? >> thank you. >> have a little boot. there you go. perfect. >> feminists will be very upset with this. >> think will hate you in france now. >> he won celebrity apprentice, and launched a life-style brand

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> that's our one lucky gieshgs john rich half of the big and rich duoout with a new album. it is called "gravity" and out on itunes. john, you are a pretty busy giechlt not on on guy. you have red- neck rivera and being the father of two kids. >> wow, there is a bunch of me. >> it is a great ride and so fun. and baby, when i look at you with those baby blues. come on and zoom in. >> you got me. >> john, the harmonies on that song are so beautiful. and the mix between your voices

and the guitars are incredible and hard to get a song that you can boil down the elements and have them rich you right away. and when we meet in the middle it is big and rich. and it is a cool thing and great chemistry. and our fans have been around since a horse ride a cowboy. >> it is a great life. >> you will be on the tonight show tonight. >> yes. >> what about gravity. >> ten years ago we didn't have gravity and fans. now big and rich there is fans and people and come on shoes like this. it is some of the best songwriting kenny and i have ever done. i go back and listen and wow, that is a serious story. and this is outnumbered over

time. we were four lucky ladies. >> and now, we are going to the web. fox news.comslash outnumbered and we'll be back on tv on "happening now" starts right now. >> breaking here on "happening now". the first people patient diagnosed in the united states has died. thomas duncan was in isolation in the dallas hospital. and rush is on to train health care worker ares to stop the deadly virus in africa. fox got a inside look at the training facility. john has more with. that>> reporter: shannon, good afternoon to you. officials in dallas say it is tragic that thomas duncan succumbed to the disease and that his was an isolated case and no one else has come down with the disease which is remrk