ni. what he makes of how our president is handling isis in iraq and syria. that is tomorrow on the fox business network. it kicks off at 11:00 a.m. eastern sharp. "the five" is next. hello, everyone. this is "the five." you remember the colombian prostitution scandal that vanished after the secret service agents vanished. a young white house staffer and son of a big democratic donor was there, too. was he punished as well? well, if you call landing a gig at the office of women's global issues punishment, then, yes, he did. so i guess he was just doing undercover work in colombia

witnesses the injustices up close. worse, the post reports that the white house may have had the report on the scandal put off until after the election. but that's not like them at all. the irs, benghazi, they would never bury something to save an election. who were the hookers again? i certainly hope media matters gets its talking points out soon to dismiss this story and demonize the reporters chasing it. yet while we wonder what happened to those missing epa e-mails or that impending report on bowe bergdahl which likely won't come out until after the elections, where is waldo? i mean obama. fund-raising with gwyneth. the only part of politics he's good at. i blame global warning. it's agents and military men were punished, the white house merely skipped to re-election with their cronies rewarded, a man machinery imperveous to consequences. everyone gets screwed except those who paid in advance.

>> k.g., i want to read this statement from richard sauber, the attorney represented jonathan dach, the kid that was over there. >> the aide. >> that apparently was linked to prostitution. he says the allegations about any inappropriate contact by jonathan dach in cartagena are utterly and completely false. he's ducking the question. when he arrived he was met at the airport by embassy staff, driven to the hotel, went to bed exhausted. it's kind of change he gets a plum job, all these guys get fired or demoted but he gets a great job. in a weird way it shows how the white house is willing to protect the mother ship at the expense of the agents. >> you're exactly right. it's a double standard, right? and it shows the hypocrisy of

the administration because they fired secret service agents for the same conduct even though they said, well, listen prostitution is legal in cartagena in colombia so this is okay. as always it's the cover-up that's the most agregregious ofe crime, that aspect of it. why are they saying he's okay to work for them if the secret service agents are not? why? and that they covered it up as well. that's the problem here. >> the think the cover-up, putting it off which happens to be a regular thing for them. so, kermit, if i can ask you this question, this is not -- "the washington post" is not a crack pot website. this is "the washington post." how can any of the left wing blogs or the liberal media dismiss this? >> that's why they're a little -- they're floundering a little bit because they're not sure. carol lenning and david nakamura have been writing these. they're seasoned reporters.

if i were the white house press secretary, if i saw this piece, i would say is there something i don't know. what do they know that we don't know, that somebody here hasn't told me or what questions am i not asking. basically as soon as the piece posted, the white house was on the record saying it's totally false. interesting thing for me is this part where it says a lead government investigator told the investigators that he was pressured by superiors to withhold evidence because a link to the white house would be potentially embarrassing to the administration. the reason they're having a big problem, i think at the white house defending this is that they know that these reporters, they're not just going to throw anything out there. their reputations are on the line. i would note that "the washington post" has not changed the story. they've not taken it down. there's not been any editing of it i think there would have been if there's a problem. why are you lafering at it? >> it's the beautiful twitter.

>> did you hear anything i just said? it was brilliant. >> erica will add to that braille ia brilliance. >> it's a 15-page piece and i pulled the same line. here is what they quote, the lead investigator as saying. he was told to withhold and alter, forget withhold, withhold is bad enough, told to alter certain information in his report because it was potentially damaging to the administration. wow. i mean, if that isn't as -- people will say maybe the irs isn't a scandal or benghazi is not a scandal. if someone from the white house tells an ig to withhold and alter information until after an election, i would call that a scandal. can i talk briefly about this young guy, jonathan dach, i believe, i could be wrong, 25-year-old advance, goes to colombia and then ends up at

least loosely tied by these investigators with this prostitute and then comes back and gets a job in the office of women's global issues at the white house and his father, the rich donor, works in the administration as well. >> and has given at least $20,000 to president obama and thousands to the democratic party. >> they're good to their friends. >> they're good at that. >> none of us can expect the president to know or be responsible for illicit activity in colombia, but the cover-up to save the election. that's a practice. that's pretty unconscionable. >> first of all, i want to go -- one, it was not the white house decision. secret service made the decision. back then i defended the secret service guys who were bachelors because it's legal. i will be happy to defend this kid. he was a volunteer. >> he said it didn't happen.

>> i'm just saying -- >> so you're saying he's lying. >> can i have a second, please? if i had that information and i were involved in politics and it was 60 days before the campaign, i would bury it, too. >> wait, wait. you would tell someone to bury the information? >> he was a volunteer, i could care less. >> who cares what the kid did. it's the fact this david neyland is the lead investigator, the ig, was told by the white house to bury the information. you don't think that's a conspiracy? >> this was a nonemployee of the federal government who was doing exactly -- >> who got rewarded by a job -- >> that's a bad mistake. i would have sent him on his way. that's not the point. to make a big deal out of this -- >> this doesn't -- >> he was told by the white house to bury the information. forget about what he did. who cares with a 25-year-old kid does in colombia. it's the fact the white house leans on an ig to bury and alter

certain information because of an election. >> he doesn't care. >> if you ever been in campaigns when things are close like that and something comes up that is not illegal, of course you're going to bury it. >> bob, this is the son of a donor. >> so? >> everybody got thrown under the bus but him. that's pretty disgusting. >> special treatment. >> why should he volunteer under this bus? >> he might have been involved. and we have on top of that the fact that they delayed the report until after the election which seems to be a practice which is what happens -- >> and they were told to alter it. come on. >> can i add one more layer -- >> no one is shocked anymore by anything. >> the whole issue was the advance team knew exactly where president obama was going to be at every single point of the way. they had car services booked to go from here to here to here and if you're sleeping with a prostitution and if you're giving her that information if you're drunk and sleeping with her then maybe the world knows where president obama is going to be at what time.

>> okay. we obviously have different -- but this is a 25-year-old kid -- >> first of all, he's not a kid. he's 25 years old. that is a man. he's making decisions on his own. he got his dad happened to be a rich guy who used to give money to the democrats. fine. goes on to serve in the administration at hhs. then his son gets a plum assignment while everybody else has to take the fall. what kind of a man is that? besides i actually care about the women. >> the women that work at the -- >> and also the women of colombia. this is someone's daughter, mother, sister. these are women that have either chosen because of bad circumstances orb pushed into or forced into a situation that is terrible and i don't think that -- i don't like it that even if he is a volunteer, he still got paid government money to pay for his expenses. i don't want my government dollars to go exploiting women and you just have to hope they're being humorous about it.

>> the irony is not lost on us. >> i wonder how the spokespeople at the state department have -- >> and who has a war on women, i ask you? >> that was really -- >> on top of everything else, they're just stupid. >> i can't imagine -- >> but there's moral e equivalency here. >> this is tape of congressman chaffetz slamming the white house double standard in this scandal. >> there were nearly two dozen secret service and military personnel that were either fired or reprimanded but the concern is that when it came to the white house and the white house taking care of its own personnel, totally different standard and perhaps a misdirection and some cover-up. >> it's really the white house that's the key here, and they perpetuated a double standard where secret service agents were fired for hiring prostitutes as they should have been yet their own aide was involved and they covered it up. >> there's a lot of double

standards here. i keep thinking if this was under president bush they would blame it on his frat boy past. >> and it would be front page. unfair dealing, lack of moral standards. >> this is not president bush. >> we're not in a corner. president obama is. >> the whole thing is -- this is how offensive it is. they keep outdoing themselves like you think that scandal was bad, we got another one. >> it would have been -- they would have said it was a culture of allowing this type of bad behavior to happen. turned a blind eye to it. >> they made it a terrible blunder giving this guy a job afterwards. you've now elevated this to a scandal. >> it's not the point. >> the job -- >> he told the investigators to lie. >> i understand that. i'm just saying i can sort of understand -- >> you're talking about the act itself you don't have a moral problem. >> one question at a time. can i answer your question?

>> you keep interrupting them. >> right. >> the point is we get it. you don't think -- >> we're talking about the lie. >> cover up. >> and the media is complicity. >> which portion should i answer? >> you're running out of time. to the cover up. i want to hear that. >> if i were in a campaign and somebody came to me and said, bob, one of our volunteers who were helping the president's advance got hooked up with a prostitute in colombia. i would say is it illegal? no. then i would say wait until after the election. >> now they've gone on record saying this is false, it's not true, and when -- >> now we know it is. >> when there's some link to this guy and that prostitute and this room, you're going to have the white house again lying to the american people. >> one last thing quick, dana, the bowe bergdahl report, when is that coming out? is that going to come out after the election?

>> i don't know when it is coming out. i would say this. if the white house is sitting on that report and they are thinking that it is a smart thing to do to wait until after the election to reveal whatever information is in that report because they think it would possibly hurt them in the midterms but i don't think it will, if they're holding that report back to try to protect the president, i think that's unconscionable and i hope the press is asking them where is that report? >> unethical. >> is this about the guy that went awol -- >> yeah. >> that would be a mistake. >> don't go away. your ebola update is up next on "the five."

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with pg&e's business energy check-up. we turn now to the ebola scare. 200 airplane cabin cleaners walked off the job today at new york's laguardia airport. they say they fear for their safety because they're not protected enough from possible exposure to ebola. >> we're here today because we

can no longer tolerate unsafe working conditions. the whole country is shivering, worried about the problems of ebola. airport workers are on the front lines of protecting the public. to protect the public, we have to protect the workers. >> meanwhile, five airports in the u.s. are going to be testing travelers from west africa for fevers when they arrive here in the united states. something we talked about before that we thought they should have started doing right away in addition to grounding some of the flights. eric, do they have the right call here, the right opinion to say we're not protected enough, we don't have the right gear? >> the airport workers? yeah, i feel bad for them, i really do. we don't know enough, and they said we need to be better trained. we need more equipment. we need more things to make sure that they're safe. that's all they're asking for. i am no fans of unions and workers walking off the job, but

in this case, when it's life or death, i kind of understand that. why five airports? why not 500 airports? >> i can address that. it's a symbolic gesture which the white house loves to do, and the problem -- this is an important thing. when you do something for show, it always replaces doing something that actually solves the problem. >> right. >> we live in an age where solutions are being replaced by symbolism. symbolic gestures are deadlier than doing nothing. >> i think it's fair to say it would be difficult to cover 500 airports. i don't know how many people work there but i think it should be more than that and by the way i want this data recorded. >> i know what you're going to say. >> you finally said something supportive of a union. >> no, no, no. if your life is on the line -- >> right. >> just say okay. >> okay. >> okay. >> i'm going to disagree. >> really? >> because i have been persuaded

by dr. frieden who runs the cdc who explained in an op-ed i thought was very well argued why he thinks it is a bad thing to shut down all the airports. all the flights from there. it's quite lengthy but one of the things he was saying is the difficulty of actually doing that, of needing to fight the problem at the source. of actually it being kind of infective because people could be in those countries, do another country and then come here. you're not solving the problem. he argues that you could make it worse if you shut down those airports. so i'm just -- i'll say i trust them. they have to grapple with much larger and bigger issues than i have to. they have the front line responsibility for it. >> i would like to think that they know what they're doing. i agree with you on that. >> well -- >> we will find out eight months from now. >> we would think so except for the fact they sent people into the apartment without proper hazmat material. i mean,on. i think they're kind of playing catch-up on this.

obviously a very bright man. i like the fact he went to the scene. he went to the heart of the scene, to liberia, to see it for fantastic, but i disagree with his argument about shutting down the airports. don't let the flights come in until we do what he said which is contain it at the source. shut it down there. >> apparently they also are having -- being vcriticized by some health care workers about having a lack of information. we have a lot of ways to communicate with people through phones and it feels like the health care workers, including a senior doctor, she is concerned because she heard nothing and she had like to know more. >> i thought it was the sheriff's department that sent that guy in there. >> but this is my point. they weren't even supposed to have to go in there. they said it should have been federal employees.

this isn't a tight operation. they want it to be. there's a worldwide shortage of the medicine to treat ebola. you have dr. kent brantley. e stopped twice to give blood to donate because there's a worldwide shortage to save people. >> does the fault really lie with the police department? >> i think it gets back to the bigger point that the cdc has -- i think you could argue they have been late and they have been lax in their communication of how to prepare and be ready for it. even if you are at a local police department, you have like a little bulletin board like fyi, everybody be aware of this. >> dr. frieden said it's not necessary to wear hazmat materials to go into the scene. five days later when they couldn't find anyone to go in and clean the apartment, then the people go in with the hazmat. then the sheriff in the hospital they're still testing for ebola

markers even though he was just in there -- walked in, said he didn't touch any bodily fluids. >> and greg may be 100% right and we are overreacting, but as things start to come out, we realize we weren't 100% accurate on certain things. it wouldn't be a bad idea. can i throw a provocative thought on the table? >> can you tell me what it is first? >> shouldn't we be profiling people who we suspect of having or potentially having ebola? >> that's what you're doing. >> no, you're not. >> i think you profile them by saying have you been traveling to that area or living there. that kind of profiling? >> yes, you show symptoms, you come from that part of the world. >> i think that's what they're doing. >> it sounds like they're taking five airports and hope they catch something. >> what if questions are great on talk shows but hysteria, it can be as contagious as the disease and at times by getting people to act irrationally is

deadlier because people do not take careful precautions when they panic. i know for television it's going to be concerned but you have to control. >> i think this is controlled and measured and perhaps -- >> i don't know about you, kimberly. >> coming up -- >> i think you're out of control. >> completely. just inside. wire going to get you up to speed on what's happening now in races across the country ahead of the fast-approaching midterm elections. dana has the low down next. stay with us.

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that song was written for greg. the midterm election is 26 days awag. a fox news poll shows

republicans trending ahe had in five battleground states. in south dakota it could spell trouble for the gop. the independent candidate in the three-way contest is just behind the republican front-runner. in north carolina the race remains tight between kay hagan and her gop challenger tom tillis. he has been attacking her record on terror accusing her of skipping a hearing on isis to attend a fund-raiser. on tuesday the senator admitted it was true. >> did you miss any of the meetings specifically for a fund-raiser. >> there was one. and it was scheduled early in the day, and then votes were scheduled, and that hearing then had to be postponed later that day. so, yes, i did miss that one. >> we're going to talk about that. first, bob, i have two questions for you. first, has your october surprise that you predicted happened yesterday? >> it hasn't. >> is it still going to happen? >> it's the secret service. >> ceahe's still making it up.

>> most presidents that have a second term when they go for the midterm election that that sixth year, they usually lose. except for bill clinton believe it or not was able to pick up seats but that was partly because they were running against impeachment. the hardest thing to measure that i have learned from you, bob, is turnout in the midterm election. as that gotten any better with the technology? >> actually it wasn't. it's gotten worse and i will tell you why. one of the problems with trying to poll at this stage of the game is that the assumption is, and it's right, that the republicans have momentum on their side. more republicans say yes, than democrats, but with the proliferation of absentee ballots more and more states are turning to early voting and people like it. oregon, they had two months. far too long. we used to think there's a lot of absentee ballots and that meant there was going to be a fairly large turnout. we're finding out people are

voting absentee because they don't want to vote on election day. that's one thing. the second thing is people are voting in local elections they don't take into account. very hot local elections whether it's for mayor or lieutenant governor. you have to look up and down the ballot. >> what's the job? >> right. and they're probably going to vote for the senate. the problem with focusing on the senate alone is you can't get the turnout exactly right which is why this thing -- my own guess is they're probably -- certainly will be an increase in republican turnout. i don't know how you can measure it and it's getting more and more difficult. the last thing is referendums and initial titivinitiatives. >> greg, let me ask you, does it matter that senator kay hagan who is running for the clip we showed, she's admitted finally she didn't go to a hearing for a

fund-raiser sproop she's just following the example of her great leader. it's always about winning elections. it's based on a toxic ideology that american expression of might is evil. can i talk about the senate races? >> yes, please. >> they aren't running against each other. they're running from obama which makes me come to the conclusion, if winning a election demands you dump the consequences of liberalism, why not dump them for good? because you're liars, hypocrites, and self-promoting jerks. >> wow. >> i'm going to ask eric about the economy but let me -- >> can i talk about kay hagan, too? >> sure. >> just a little bit. >> yeah. >> i think she's got to be ahead maybe by three percentage points, especially in north carolina elections break late, too. i think it will matter she didn't show up and i'll tell you why. isis has been on a regular schedule. this is just within that target range of if we see another

beheibeh beheading of an american and a veteran and it's something she didn't know sufficient interest in, i think america should care. >> i think if she would have -- >> it looks shameful. >> eric, james carville once said it's the economy stupid. in this midterm do you think it's the economy? >> i do. 55% of the population both republican and democrats and independents believe the economy remains weak. 65% feel the country is going in up, energy prices n. are up, incomes are literally down under president obama. percentage of americans working is at 40 year lows. i think it's going to end up being a reflection of a poor economy. again, 1% is doing great. the people at the tippy top of the ladder are doing fantastic. the middle class is not. the bottom is taken care of.

>> we have to look at it state by state in certain places like north carolina where they're doing much better. always a fascination by elections. they will talk about the st. louis thing. there will be ire in the black community. no north carolina the assumption is blacks will turn out in low numbers. those are things we don't know for politics. >> it was carville's statement it's the economy stupid. i think the motto for this election is it's the stupid, stupid. >> the candidate up in upstate new york is running against a couple guys up there, a democrat and an independent. she's a friend of mine. if she wins and she's likely too, he will be the youngest woman of congress ever but get this, in the debate last night

her challenger the democrat complained to her because she had never done manual labor like he did. i feel like democrat men have a problem with republican women who are running. do you think? >> a statement like that is something that you do when you're rubbing fnning for senio president of the class. that i blame on his consultants. anybody who scripts an answer like that frankly ought to get out of that and get into the dry cleaning business. >> the dry cleaning business is hard. >> not as hard as being a liberal. >> there's more to come in the coming weeks. next, a few wave of unrest in missouri after an off-duty police officer shots an armed man in st. louis. we'll talk about that ahead.

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two months after the michael brown shooting in ferguson there's been another shooting involving police that's sparking protests, this time in nearby st. louis. last night an off duty white officer shot and killed black 18-year-old myers, jr. myers was armed and fired at the cops first police say. >> i know emotions are high and tensions are high but the reality is what we've seen or what the evidence tells me right now is an individual pointed a gun at a police officer, fired at least three rounds, and continued to pull the trigger. >> angry crowds gathered quickly as word spread. now, bob, i know you want to weigh in aggressively on this, but let me ask k.g. first. this is different. we have police saying the young man fired first, and that's -- >> pulled the gun, fired three shots, so you're allowsed to use

force -- >> allegedly. >> fine, bob, if that makes you feel better, of course. allegedly. but the gun did fire and it was fired three times and he did have a gun. so that changes the dynamic completely. so the allegation then is is it a justifiable shooting? certainly if you can prove he fired first on the officer. the officer has the right to be able to defend himself. he does not have an obligation to die which is a very sad, tragic case, and then the question becomes did the officer use excessive force in the number of rounds that he fired from the gun? >> well, listen, i'm not no criminal justice expert but if you fire -- even point a gun at an officer, you better expect to be shot. >> well, that assumes, first of all, there was a gun, b, it was shot. three, that you believe the police in st. louis which i do not, only personal opinion. >> and the use of 17 shots into

a teenager who was not using his gun, it was jammed according to the police, which i don't believe, is expressive force. there are those of us who believe if you look at the history of the st. louis police which has been a hot bed of racial tension, that this kind of thing does not surprise me. it will take a long time to resolve. there will be a significant backlash over it and i think it will have an impact. >> dana, the police recovered the gun. three bullets were missing and they got the shells from -- that were dispensed. >> the casings were recovered. >> so bob can say there's a big -- >> why are we arguing that point, bob? >> because the police say the casings have been recovered and the gun has been recovered and until i see it, smell it, feel it, i don't believe. . >> after all the scrutiny they've been getting do you think they would play around with altering evidence? >> you're not going to. >> you're going to get the ballistic report and then check

the gsr on his hand and match it up and the casings will match the weapon. >> we'll see. >> is bob right, greg, that this is going to be a thing going forward or does this go away? >> unfortunately, he might be right. factually this incident is different. but due to a climate of racial conflict stoked by the media and an influx of outside activism, it's erased by feeling. it enabled someone like bob to take an incident that is different and say it's not surprising that it would occur here. you're generalizing based on a specific incident which we tend to see as bigoted or smearing if it you would do it in a group of people. the result will be anarchy that radicals can only dream of. >> i lot of people were upset with nbc news for putting out a tweet that talked about the officer killing the 18-year-old -- the white officer killing the 18-year-old black young man but never pointed out

the fact that shots were fired at the officer first. don't they have that responsibility? >> well, they have that responsibility if they have the evidence to back it up. look, you know, i'm not -- i don't want to see -- >> nbc, report the facts. >> i understand that, but what i have not yet seen is the st. louis police report the facts. let's wait and see. the point is in the black community -- >> then we shouldn't have done this segment. if we can't -- if we're going to sit here and hypothesize and make conjectures and just wait a see, maybe we shouldn't do these stories. let's not do them until we have the facts. maybe we should do it that way. >> or we could argue the facts we have. >> right. and not say the facts aren't facts. >> let's not get crazy here. this is freaking me out. we do have the facts. we know the casings were recovered. and if anybody fired a gun here and some of you have, that is not unheard of to have a high capacity gun like that, a nine millimeter, maybe you had a couple, two to three quick

burssts, it's not unheard of to do that. the officer is following police protocol. if someone is shooting at you, you can shoot at them until they put them down. >> you said the facts are. and i -- >> when they have gunshot residue on them. >> you want to hang out in con spour si la conspiracy land. >> why schools in one state have ordered students to stop calling each other boys and girls. for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident.

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this is something you have to hear to believe, like st. louis. a school district in nebraska has provided new guidelines for teachers encouraging them not to use gender definitions like boys and girls to describe their students. the reason? the guidelines say applying boy and girl tags to students doesn't promote gender inclusiveness. i'm having a hard time getting through this. no one wants to demean the transgender community, certainly not me, but isn't this going a bit too far? greg? >> well, this is disturbing. as we know penguins are sexually

di morphic. >> you have to explain the penguin thing. >> they want them to be called purple penguins and not boys and girls. they want to be called purple penguins. that's the point. it will kids, because penguins, a, molt every year. kids think they're going to molt. number two, they're changing into purple when penguins are black. >> like their habitat is going away. >> it's going to scare the heck out of kids. modern day educators are preoccupied with gender. i think gender identity politics has replaced religion in education. >> less gender, more math. >> why does it have to be purple, though? >> nebraska is a fairly conservative state, say opposed to new york. >> as greg has explained to me many times, the liberal academic complex is alive and well. i think it happens in -- the quotes from the guy are pretty interesting. i just think if you're a liberal

and you really want this to happen, you want kids to be called purple penguins, they might want to wait. because how would we ever elect our first woman president? >> we'd elect a penguin. >> can you tell the content -- >> oh, lord. >> bob, don't destroy the segment. >> it's my segment. >> you're the one who pops the ball. >> that's what he does. >> how old are these kids, do we know? >> he's a playground ball popper. >> let me pop your ball for a second here, okay? >> oh, jeez. i can't. >> here you've got a situation -- you say that liberals believe this. i know that lots of liberals, myself included, who think it's ridiculous. you think it's fair to blame the entire liberal community for this? >> yeah, ai'm pretty comfortabl that. >> this makes sense. >> i'm going to blame them. >> gender identity politics. the right has created some things that you don't like.

this is the baby of the left. identity politics. you guys made it. we're living it. >> you guys made it? >> yep. >> what about the pittsburgh penguins, the hockey team? are they going to have to change their logo from a penguin to a little boy? >> that would identify them as boys. they have to be little boys and little girls. >> eric, you haven't had a chance to speak on this. i know you are probably going to rush to get your kid in this school system. what would you say if you came home -- >> all i have to say is kids have so much to deal with and to worry about. what they're being called, penguins or boys and girls are ridiculous. but these are middle schoolers. these kids have already figured out gender identities well before middle school. >> you know what? the inmates have now started running the asylum. that's what this is all about. >> can you imagine if eric came home like, hey, i'm a purple penguin, dad what. do i do about this? this is a little bit ridiculous. >> i think if the country -- i

know you've said this before, the country would be better off with no liberals at all. >> i didn't say that. there would be nobody to make fun of. >> i do like that movie "happy feet." >> the penguins are black. obviously racist. >> well, it is. it's like discriminatory to all the other colors. >> it's hard to tell. >> sometimes they lie. if you don't think beat con men at their own game when you think aarp, you don't know "aarp." the aarp fraud watch network helps everyone protect themselves and their families against scams and identity theft. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities.

you get first up. >> thank you so much for the honor. the nominations for the rock 'n' roll hall of fame for 2015 are in. very exciting. you see out there a few of the selections. green day. >> boo. >> okay. the late lou reid. >> yea. >> sting. >> ugh. >> nine inch nails. >> yea. >> the smiths. >> yes! >> paul butterfield, blues band. like them? and you like craft work. >> craft work is one of the greatest bands of all time. >> so now you know. >> stevie ray vaughn, that's a good one. >> why is stevie ray vaughn not already in the rock 'n' roll hall of fame? >> when you look at this list, joan jett, that's a great one. >> runaways, great band. >> that was it. i thought it was pretty good. >> well-done. >> thanks.

>> speaking of rock 'n' roll and about songs, the single greatest lyricist this in music ever, including -- >> the knack? >> no. >> bob dylan. all the lyrics he's written will be coming out in a thousand-page book, 13.5 pounds the book is. it's going to cost around $5,000. it may seem a little expensive for some. maybe not for some people. but it is -- i'd still believe that there is nobody, but nobody who captured his generation, the times with better writing than bob dylan and he is so much better than any of the people you saw on that screen. >> hemmer would agree with you. >> i think he ripped off tom petty. >> the environmentalists are going to go crazy. >> lot of paper. >> that was a joke. >> kindle it. >> dana? >> i got to see an old friend last week and she's a lawyer and also is a mom and they just moved to new york city. they asked her what she was doing. she is practicing law, but she started a new business. it's a product that i love and i

am going to give a gift to kimberly. i give her a hard time for carrying this big, massive bag around. it has like 28 lipsticks. >> 28 pink lipsticks. >> it's a raincoat for your purse. jamie brown created the raincoat for your purse. >> look at how cute. >> it's the raincoat for your purse. >> it's a birka bag. it covers it. >> yes. so if you're in the rain, her bag won't get ruined. >> all you people on minimum wage, please get one of these. >> gussy.com, it's so cute. >> this is a real gift. i think i can keep it, right? >> i didn't get one. eric? >> tonight i'm hosting o'reilly, but we have david nakamura, the guy -- "the washington post" reporter who broke the story on the secret service in the white house leaning on him to change the story, change the investigation. that's going to be a big one.

geraldo blames race on the dallas ebola guy. and james carville. >> set your dvr so you never miss an episode. "special report with bret baier" is up next. the fight intensifies for a crucial border town in syria, while resistance here grows to president obama's air power only strategy. this is "special report." good evening, i'm bret baier. it's the fight for kobani. american war planes are pounding isis targets in a crucial syrian border town today, but reports on the ground said the terrorists continue to take territory. turkey's foreign minister says it is unrealistic to expect his country to launch a ground war on its own. let's get a live update tonight from the s