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candidate refusing to say whether or not she voted for president obama. good night from washington, d.c. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> it's a very clear-cut coverup. even more so than benghazi. >> there's no indication that any member of the white house advance team engaged in any improper conduct or behavior. >> was the obama administration lying? we'll tell you. >> he's a poor blackman, coming from a deep accent. i did believe he deserved the care that everybody else got. >> he claims he got shoddy treatment because he was black. geraldo rivera will be here to
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analyze. >> there's a movement in white supremacy groups. >> and the outrageous allegation that christians are just as bad as radical muslims when it comes to terror. we'll tell you about it tonight. the caution. you're about to enter the no-spin zone. the factor begins right now. hi, i'm in for bill o'rei y o'reilly. a stunning report by the washington post alleges a white house aide was involved in the secret services scandal in columbia. the administration found out and covered it up because it would negatively affect the presidential election in 2012. at the time they defied any of their staff members were caught up in the controversy. >> there have been no specific
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credible allegations of misconduct by any one on the white house advance team or staff. out of due diligence, the white house counsel's office has conducted a review of the white house advance team. and in concluding that review, came to the conclusion that there's no indication that any member of the white house's advance team engaged in any improper conduct or behavior. >> one of the reporters who broke the story is with us, david nauk morey. i read the whole report. you heard jay carney say there was no involvement by the white house. yet in your story, you say specifically, david nyeland was told to withhold all the information in his report because it was potentially damaging to the administration. now that is a hefty claim.
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you want to tell us how you got that information? >> there was an initial review that jay carney talked about that happened in the days after this trip. in the wake of the scandal. they said there was no evidence, what they didn't say is that the secret service director did say there was evidence and they chalked it up to rumor. subsequently, after jay carney's statement that you heard, the secret service director came back and presented more evidence. the white house again interviewed some of the people, including jonathan dauk and said they had no reason to believe there was any misconduct. secondly, the inspector general came up with additional evidence in his own review. he presented it in a draft report in the fall of 2012 and his superiors instructed him to remove this information and delay the final report until after the 2012 election. that was his charm. it's been disputed by others in
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the i.g.'s office. >> that's the most important part of this whole report is he was specifically told to delay, withhold and alter this report until after the election. who was he told to do this, who instructed him to do this? >> investigator, dave nyeland told congress in a briefing to congressional investigators that were overseeing a broader review of the i.g.'s office, this specific allegation, he said he had been instrubted by his superiors, it came in 24 hours of his superiors having briefed homeland security director janet napolitano. now she has told us in no way did she order it be removed. she denies it happening as do his superiors. his superiors were fired in their own right for broader
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reasons. and this investigator was placed on administrative leave which he thought was retalia tory. >> he comes up with some ideas. he's told to dough lay them. and then he's subsequently put on a leave. and ten were fired. talk to us about that. there were ten people fired. >> ten people were fired. there were people fired in the inspector general's office. three were put on leave. what the inspector general's office said at the time was unrelated to the scandal in cart hayna and the white house's involvement. they believed they were be the retaliated against for raising the flags about the white house involvement. there was some dispute in the office, do we have jurisdiction. we only oversee the secret service and dhs. but they were adamant we have to include this. more broadly, there were people that lost their jobs, but, again, there were other issues cited in part for why they were
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let go. but this investigator did feel like he was being retaliated against, and there were those in congress who heard his direct testimony, private testimony that we've since learned about who do brief that he faced repercussions. congress could come to no conclusion in their review of this. they came to no decision one way or the other, but there are those who remain concerned, especially in the republicans and the oversight committee. it was a separate review by the white house counsel. >> let's talk about some of the reasons he was being leaned on so far. he found this jonathan dauk. 25-year-old son of a major obama donor who is part of an advance team that goes to columbia and allegedly was either seen or had spent some time with a prostitute and that looked bad to the administration. >> what they found, and the secret service director also found as well as the ifrlts g. there were documents from the hotel, the presidential hotel --
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the president had not arrived yet, but the president team was staying there. his room number, 513 at the hilton had registered a woman as an overnight guest, and the reason they do that in cart hayna, the prostitution is legal. but this is a room number where jonathan dauk was staying. had registered the room. the i.g. went down to cart hayna and talked to not only hotel staff, what they saw and heard, they said that the individual in the room presented his hilton honors card, to get the fee waived for the overnight guest. they had documentation who was staying in the room. and the investigator talked to a secret service agent who was staying in the hotel who was not otherwise implicated who said he had seen jonathan dauk with a prostitute. they don't know what happened,
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but he certainly did not have a guest. >> he got the fee waived for a guest in room 513 in columbia, but there was no one else staying there. i have to leave it there. we also need to point out that jonathan dauk works in the obama administration right now in the office of women's global issues at the state department and his father as well. david nakamura, thank you. coming up on the run down. the father of the ebola patient in texas claims he didn't get adequate care because of his rate. you know.... there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity.
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and he's a poor black man. he has a very deep accent coming from west africa, and i believe that he didn't get the care that everybody else should get. you don't treat people like that. >> and geraldo rivera joins us. surely you don't think race has anything to do with this gentleman's death. >> it's either gross malpractice or the doctor seeing yet another poor black man in the emergency room without insurance yet again. these urban hospitals overrun with patients without insurance, i think that there is very little doubt, i think that there is almost zero chance that his race and social class played a role. >> how could you bring race, you know what? i would expect al sharpton to bring race into this or jesse jackson to bring race, i would not expect geraldo rivera.
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>> you have ever been in an urban hospital late at night and seen the kind of care those people get? >> gross negligence, a mistake. >> one or the other. >> fine, but you bring race into this? >> it's either gross malpractice, that is the doctor ignored symptoms he knew to be vigilant for, or he never looked, because, you know, it's another uninsured guy. it's late. the emergency room is crowded. he doesn't have insurance. here, take a prescription. >> you are playing the race card, but i think you are playing the wrong card. i think you should be playing the medical insurance card. he didn't have the -- >> but every day in every urban hospital across the country. >> there's racism in urban hospitals? >> you have a situation where you have a poor, uninsured
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client. he could have been purple or green. >> correct. correct. but here we agree. >> it is, if you want to make it a race issue, you can make it a race issue. the fact of the matter is, it's a social class issue. this is a systemic problem. this guy was just one of many, many. >> you know what's more infectious than ebola? is bringing race into a discussion like this. how, look, there are fine doctors in this medical center. >> okay. >> who probably take massive offense at you claiming that he was september away because of his race. >> anyone who takes massive offense, i ask you to spend an hour or two as i have on many an evening doing reports on drug abuse and violent crimes. spend some time in an emergency room, in a major urban hospital, and you will see what the doctors deal with. they deal with one after another after another that is going to be a burden on the hospital. they're not going to get fairly compensated for it. that doctor didn't see thomas
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edward eric duncan. that doctor saw another person on the tread million of okay here it is. >> and if they were white they would have treated him? >> without the medical card. >> social check claeconomic cla was a white banged up bum. >> now you're blaming race and then says it didn't matter if he was white or black didn't have the insurance. >> we're sending our troops, 3,000 troops into harm's way. >> right. >> there's a nurse in spain who literally touched her cheek and contracted ebola. do we really want 3,000 military personnel? >> who would do it? who would you have go? >> none of them. >> so you would have the continent get wiped out and then what? >> 3,000 american troops are going to save the continent? >> there is no government now in
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most of these places. you need order and discipline. you need quarantine, sanitary burial. they are not sending troops with thick bayonets. they're sending sustainment brigades from the airborne. they are amply trained and equipped. >> i like the world health organization, give them some more money, let the world health organization go in there and do that, not our troops. >> with whom? >> travel ban to and from these areas. >> infective. you got to stop it at the source. you can't have a travel ban. they don't go from those west african countries. >> is a travel ban racist? >> no. >> is it profiling if they happen to be black. >> you must profile. row fili pro filing is absolutely called
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. in the factor followup segment, leon panetta and his criticism of president obama. is the former defense secretary trying to help blaze the trail for a hillary clinton presidential run in 2016? exchanges like the one he had with bill o'reilly earlier this week have some critics thinking that may be it. >> i'm seeing a president from your eyes, former cia chief, former defense secretary, who is either incapable or doesn't understand the dangers that the united states faces.
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that's the message i'm getting from you. >> i think this president is smart enough to understand the dangers. the real question is, can he translate that into the kind of action that will help protect this country. >> okay. would i be wrong and a mean guy to say i don't believe barak obama has the stomach for the fight? >> i think, look, i'm a guy who believes that barack obama, by virtue of what i've seen from the time i was there, has the guts to do the right thing. the real question is, will he make the decision to do it? >> now the president's supporters are trying to discredit panetta, listen. >> it's kind of sad that in his twilight he's done such a dishonorable thing by going after the president that he served at a time of a lot of different instabilities around the world. this president has shown his leadership time and again. he has moved this country in the right direction. and to attack his leadership i think is small and petty.
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>> joining us now from washington, wesley clark, the former supreme allied commander of nato and former democratic presidential candidate. he's also the author of the book the next war. can you react to bill burton calling leon panetta small and petty? >> well, i think this thing's gotten blown way out of proportion. i haven't read leon panetta's book. and most of the people who are doing the talking haven't read it. so there are some positive things said about the president. there's some questions raised about some of his decisions as leon panetta said on the show that he thinks he does have a lot of guts. that's certainly my impression, but i have a lot of respect for leon panetta. look, a public servant who cares deeply about this country, who's given many years of his life to the service of the country like leon panetta, he has something to say when he gets out of office.
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okay. but the president is the president of the united states. he's the one who's ultimately responsible. he's held accountable. he knows it. and he's making the decisions based on his best judgment. even within the privacy of the executive branch, people don't always agree on what to do. so there should be no surprise about this. >> well, general, i watched the interview with bill o'reilly, and one of the things that really stuck out to me were the benghazi talking points. leon panetta flatly said we knew those talking points were wrong, everybody knew they were wrong. yet hillary clinton went out and delivered them and so did susan rice. >> i can't comment on that specific point because i weight the -- wasn't there. i don't know what leon panetta knew or what susan rice knew. these are the things that get blown way out of proportion. this country has huge challenges it's facing right now. it's not just about isis.
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we keep talking about isis, isis, isis. you have putin in ukraine who has managed to bite off a third of the country and seems to be getting away with it. at least he's got it. there are sanctions, but he hasn't given it back yet. and you've got china growing and becoming more assertive in the pacific. so these are big challenges. >> no question, general. however. hillary clinton may run for president, it's likely that she will run for president. and when the secretary of defense says he informed the president in the white house and the state department that the talking points they were going to deliver were different from what they were actually delivering or different from what he discovered, when they go ahead and deliver them anyway, when hillary clinton's delivered those and says at this point, what difference does it make, it didn't make a difference at that point, but it will make a difference when she runs for president in 2016. she delivered talking points that hear secretary of defense and others felt were inaccurate. >> well, you know, i'm not going
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to be able to comment very helpfully on that, because i just wasn't there. and as everything i've seen on this and read about it for two years now is that the events happened very quickly. there was a lot of give and take inside the executive branch. there are different interpretations of what happened. now. there were different interpretations then. and this has gotten all infected with the sort of partisan zeal on both sides that makes it very hard for the american people to understand the truth. and i go around this country. i'm not in partisan politics directly as a candidate anymore. and i have friends on both sides. and they tell me everyone's just sec of the divisive politics in this country. we've got to pull together >> if hillary clinton does run and become president, would you entertain the thought of, if she were to ask you to become secretary of defense? >> well, i'm going to support her. i've already announced i'm going
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to support her. and i think that we're really lucky to have someone as experienced and able as hillary clinton. you know, she's been at every level of government. she's seen the private sector. she's proved her mettle in elective politics. she knows the foreign policy side. and she's got a lot of guts. she will make the right and the tough decisions if necessary. so i think she'd be a tremendous candidate. >> let's talk about the right and the tough decisions. there's no secret that there's a divide between the obamas and the clintons. bill o'reilly asked if president obama has the stomach for the fight. do you think he has the stomach for the fight or that hillary clinton has the stomach for the fight. different stomachs. >> i think they're both very capable. they competed against each other through one of the largest and longest democratic primary seasons.
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both of them showed they had tremendous character and stomach for a fight, yeah. >> is president obama making a mistake by not putting troops on the ground in iraq and syria? >> i don't think he is. and i'll tell you why. everyone says you can't win without boots on the ground. that's true. boots on the ground are necessary but they're not a sufficient condition for success. you must have air power. you must have forces on the ground to go in and root out isis with support from air power, but you must have the ability to govern this area. the united states and our soldiers cannot govern the ungoverned territories in northern syria. so we've got to make some different arrangements. when we go in there with our troops, what we do is we become a recruiting magnet for isis. that's why they beheaded those two journalists. that was a sucker punch to the united states. they wanted to draw us in. well, i think we've been smarter, so far. we've got to be careful. it's absolutely true that you must have boots on the ground. that's a necessary, but not
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sufficient condition. and we no more put u.s. troops on the ground then we'd be saying oh, it's not good enough. they can't do -- it's true. it isn't good enough. we need the peshmerga. we need the iraqis. and we probably need the kurds. >> there's 200,000 between the kurds and the peshmerga. i'm going to leave it right there. thank you very much, general for joining us tonight. >> thank you. when the factor comes back, one of clinton's closest confidantes, james carville gives us his take. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] ours was the first modern airliner, revolutionary by every standard. and that became our passion. to always build something better, airplanes that fly cleaner and farther on less fuel.
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in the impact segment tonight. is support for hillary clinton really what's driving leon panetta's criticism of president obama and is the bevy of scandals plaguing the administration ruining the entire democratic party? joining us now from new orleans, someone who knows the clintons better than just about everybody, democrat strategist james carville. you saw the big interview with mr. o'reilly and leon panetta. your thoughts on why now? why the book now? and why the revelations now? i would say why not while he bass secreta was secretary of defense. >> that's a good question. a lot of people are asking that question. i know leon very well. bill and i debated at the
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panetta institute in the interest of full disclosure. i think he felt like there was something he wanted to write and he let it go. i don't think it's that much more complicated than that. >> you don't think he's auditioning for a spot in the hillary clinton administration? >> i really don't think that he's angling to get back into the federal government in 2017. i just don't believe that that's plausible. >> james, you're probably the best person to ask this question. a lot of people talk about the divide, the rift between the obamas and the clintons. it's real, isn't it? >> well, i mean, first of all, let me start out and say politics is a highly competitive thing. president obama made her secretary. i don't know if, you know, there's exactly a rift here. they're two different people with two different styles. and i think it would be absurd to deny that. >> not deniable. so you have two different
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styles. will that hurt the democratic party? if you're an obama democrat, you're not necessarily a hillary a democrat. >> both the president and hillary clinton were very popular, are very popular through the 2008 primaries. and i don't, you know, famously you have, always have some friction or certainly friction between president bush and vice president cheney by the time they left office. it's hard to deny they are different people, different style, but both are popular people within the party itself. >> do you like president obama? >> i've met him a few times. he's personable. but i am obviously more familiar with the clintons. >> do you like president obama as a president? >> some things i like him pretty
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god. if -- good. if i look at things like health care, i think i have to say i like him pretty good. i don't think he's making a good point on arming the syrian rebels. but i hope i'm proven wrong on that. i don't think he cares what i think, but most things i think he's done better -- >> you know the clintons very well. you're a democratic strategyist. you like him, but you could go through the scandal, it's almost like scandal palooza going on. ebola, jv, isis is a jv team. i can't buy into this. >> well, some of the things, scandal, might be things i disagree with. i do think that they botch, and i had one of the top ebola experts in the world talk to my class at tulane. i think they were a little slow on the uptake on this.
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i think that you could certainly criticize the syrian response to the so-called weapons of mass destructi destruction. i think the whole irs thing is not much about very much. >> you don't think the -- >> we may have broken open a scandal earlier tonight when we find out someone in the white house, the obama administration told this investigator, lead investigator of the secret service prostitution event in columbia, someone told him to delay and alter the report. >> i'd find out who it was and what it is and what the facts are. but some of the things that are quote scandals could be just poor judgment. and there's a difference between that. anybody who makes a gazillion decisions is going to do some things that people disagree with. i hope the president understands that and accepts that. >> all right. we're going to leave it there.
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thanks for staying with us. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. earlier this week, michael eric dyson said this. >> there's a lot of antsiness about isis and what people see on tv, but at the same time, this is a religion that is ancient, honorable, venerable. why is it we get confused between the two? we don't do it with the white supre supremacist groups within christians. >> wow. come on. >> it's really looney. if you listen to some on the left for years they've been
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warning us that the biggest threat in the united states are christian fundamentalists. they believe hobby lobby is a bigger threat than isis. i'm sure you could dig back and find one instance. i'm not sure what michael eric dyson was referring to. but i'm sure you could find one instance of white supremacy, but to conflate christianity with isis, to me is just shameful. >> i don't think he was defending radical islam. >> he sure was. he said we were getting all antsy about it. >> he said we shouldn't overreact to something that's not a threat to the united states. >> you don't think isis is a threat to the united states? >> no. >> really? you don't think radical islam is a threat to the united states? ask those 2,799 people who died on 9/11. >> wait. >> 13 years ago. that trivializes radical islam?
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that was committed in the name of radical islam. >> they're going to take over the country? >> i'm glad you brought that up. the majority of muslim countries according to a pugh research study do believe in sharia law. and communities like minneapolis are growing. michael dyson were trying to say that christians are homophobes. love the sinner, hate the sin. however, in islam, it is to behead gays. [ talking simultaneously ] >> the point that dyson made -- >> let me have a moment to make that point. >> let's compare christianity to an islam group. >> in each religion there are
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extreme elements. in the history of this country we had the clan who said by any means necessary they wanted to commit acts of terrorism and they did. we have a guy, eric roder who killed in the name of christ. you have those incidents of extremism. >> a handful. >> here's what i heard. i heard isis wants to behead americans. and i heard an event that may have been 60, 70, 80 years ago. >> no, abortion clinics were not 80 years ago. and i want to make it clear, this does not represent christianity. >> things that happened a long time ago. >> you're conflating 9/11 with muslims coming together. >> we shouldn't care about those because they happened a long time ago. under your liberal logic, we
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shouldn't care about anything that happened a long time ago. >> muslims are not coming to get us as you are suggesting. >> tell that to the woman in oklahoma. >> this hysteria based on isolated incidents is bad for the country. >> are you calling radical islamics an isolated incident? >> those that are scaremongering people. >> i think the beheading. i'm scaring people? i think the beheading videos have accurately scared enough people around the world. and by the way, more muslims than christians have died at the hands of radical islam. >> we have killed people in the name of -- >> number two, i think 9/11, i think all the incidents of radical islam, it is an ideology that's been around for hundreds of years. i know you don't care about things that have happened more than five minutes ago.
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>> you said that more than five sends ago. >> it not only trivializes the death of people like james foley but trivializes the death of millions of people. >> christianity is a beautiful and peaceful religion as is islam. and there are extreme elements in both religions. and we can conflate them with huge populations of people. >> michael eric dyson -- >> and i said that he had a point in that the army of god, these radical groups, anti-abortion, people who have killed in the name of christ have misused christianity in some of the same ways radical islams have -- >> hold on. >> wow. >> what was the point of kpa comparing them? >> why? >> the point i'm making -- >> cut isis some slack? that's what it sounds like to me. >> i can't speak for him. i can only speak for me. >> there are extremists in both
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faiths. >> we should be cutting islam so slack? >> i'm not saying cut islam some slack. i say we shouldn't be bombing them because they're not a threat to the united states. >> so what should we do? hide under the table? >> no. i think what we should do is do what we're doing in west africa to use our military to help people who are sick and not send them to iraq and syria where our weapons will turn up in the hands off enemies >> you will do nothing to combat it. i think that's how i took that. >> it is not our fight. it is not a threat to the homeland of the unit as expressed by the homeland security director. we are not -- >> tell that to the woman in oklahoma who's dead. >> and tell that to the next american hostage who's next in line to be beheaded. >> do we start a war because of that? >> ft. hood. i could go on and on and on.
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understand definition of a backseat. i've had an ebola meeting every single day since july 28th. i usually have three a day. >> with us now is fox news contributor dr. mark siegel who's written a provocative column about this very issue. thanks for joining us. doc, tell us about the column. is this over panicking by the american people? >> well, for sure fear is a huge problem here. and panic is a huge problem. there's a problem with our perception because for example the patient in dallas, the unfortunate patient who died in dallas, what we could learn from that if 100 people were exposed, no one has gotten sick yet. which makes the point ebola isn't that contagious. we should learn that. but to your question, eric, what is the government doing and is it doing enough? ij it depends on the agency. i like what the nih is doing developing a vaccine. i think that's great. i don't like the department of defense didn't get the antiviral drug zmap out into production where we could actually use it or study it sufficiently.
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i don't like what the dallas health department did. they fumbled the ball many times down there with this case. i like what the centers for disease control is doing with something called contact tracing where they look to see who's got it, who might have gotten it and they isolate people. i like that. it depends on the agency. >> what about this report that the cdc is going to take on saturday. take five airports and double screen people coming in from one of these three countries. five airports? i'm thinking there's got to be 500 that bring in people from these countries. >> well, that's a great point. you've mentioned this concern. you've had it before. i like the idea of airport screening being increased greatly. i look at ebola as a medical terrorist. if one slips through, everybody's going to panic. we need to profile for ebola at the airports. not just take temperatures, which we should do, not just throw out questionnaires, which we should do. but we need custom and border patrol to be trained to really look for people who could be sick with this. take them aside and figure out whether they need to be seen by
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infectious disease experts right away. >> what are we profiling for? looking for? what are the things we instruct our people at the airport to look for? >> we're much more likely to see things like malaria because ebola's only in the thousands. i'm talking about people that may have a fever, might be suppressing that fever, are they sweating, do they have flu-like symptoms. watch how they're walking. we need medical experts -- >> what's wrong with the travel ban, doc? >> what i don't like about the travel ban at this point if there are more cases and more panic, we're going to have to look at it. right now if we throw a rope around an entire region like that, historically we're going to spread more panic. people who are worried and fearful tend to spread more virus. we've got to stamp out the west africa problem. >> there or here? >> there. if it spreads there, it's going to come here. >> you say if we throw a rope around these countries, we're spreading more panic there or here because the people in dallas are panicked. >> okay. great point.
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but it's there that i'm worried about because there is where the virus is. we need resources pouring in there. doing it on charter things isn't enough. >> they told us, president obama literally came to the podium at the cdc and said, don't worry, it will never get on an airplane and show up here. guess what happened? it got on an airplane and showed up here. >> i think you ought to know not to listen to these pronouncements. the military should have been involved earlier. i'm glad they're getting involved now. we've got to send as much resources as possible. it's not reached the point to cut off air travel. we got to cut down on panic. >> how does a disease like aids kill millions of people when it's not that different of a transmission situation, is it? >> great point. and the answer is does it really have to be sick to spread ebola so we can keep track of it from a public health point of view. hiv was spread to millions because people don't even have symptoms. they don't even know they have it. you can have hiv for eight years and not know it. spread to someone sexually. that's not going to happen with
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ebola because people get sick before they spread it. >> doc, we have video of airport workers walked off the job earlier this morning. they've since come back on the job, but they're concerned that they're not prepped to handle people with ebola coming from these countries. >> well, that's a great concern. again, the numbers are going to be very, very small. they need to be trained. they need to understand how not to be in contact with bodily fluids that could carry ebola. i think that the concern is right. but the risk is still very, very low. and we need people at airports to be screening people. >> got to leave it right there. dr. siegel, thank you very much. >> great to see you, eric. >> what do you think, our billoreilly.com poll asks do you believe the federal government is doing enough to protect americans from ebola, yes or no? up next, president obama loses support from one of his core groups of supporters, late-night mediaimmediat comedians. we'll be right back with that. want to know how hard it can be... ...to breathe with copd? it can feel like this.
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before we go tonight you know things can't be too good for president obama even when late-night comedians won't hold back from piling on all his recent blunders. >> the white house dismissed former defense secretary leon panet panetta's criticisms of president obama saying he's faced some of the most difficult issues of our time. which would be a great defense if every president didn't face the most difficult issues of their time. that's the president. that's what you do. that's what a president does. >> here's what everyone's talking about. a new survey found that more than half of americans see president obama's time in office as a failure. well, the rest said you saw him in his office? when? when was that? >> well, thanks for watching tonight. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly.
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tune in for my show this saturday morning and every saturday morning 11:30 a.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. and of course please remember the spin stops right here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight. fox news getting its hands on an explosive letter from the ft. hood gunman major nadal hassan sent to pope francis. the letter challenging the obama administration's continuing notion that hassan's murderous rampage was simply a case of workplace violence. hassan calling himself a soldier of allah. he talks about waging jihad. and wait until you hear what else. we are combing through the letter which our own catherine herridge has gotten her hands on at this very moment. much more on the dramatic revelations in just a minute. also brea