what you want on sunday mornings. take a look at where do you find fox business network. there are all your channels on your satellite provider. click on channelfinder at foxbusiness.com. media bus starts right now. ♪ >> welcome to media buzz. we'll have an in-depth conversation with bill o'reiley coming up on all things media. we're await ago cdc news conference in atlanta probably pegged to the latest news about a second confirmed case of ee beale la, this one involving a dallas health care worker. we begin with the isis terrorists making moves again. just about every headline is negative for the white house these days, especially the intense and sometimes breathless coverage of ebola. >> we dwin in dallas where there are new worries today. >> the on our broadcast today,

ebola. >> the u.s. gets thrown into the front line in the ebola fight. >> if there were ever any doubts that this is the world's problem, those doubts should be put to rest. >> you know what? i'm feeling a little sick myself. but it's not ebola. i'm just sick of a government that i'm paying for telling me not to worry and just trust them. >> just this morning, authorities confirming a second case involve ago dallas health care worker who helped treat the first ebola victim. joining us now, cheryl atkinson. amy holmes, who anchored the hot liz for the blaze and bill press, the host of the radio show the bill press show. cheryl, has the ebola coverage gotten overheated and is it fair for the press to blame the

president? >> i think according to my sources and experts, it's hard to overstate the concern that's out there, not talking about what's being said by public health officials publicly, but what people are saying behind the scenes to me at least, the concern out there about the global condition about what may be ahead for the united states. there's a careful balance that the press must strike to be factual, but -- >> let me interrupt you. we have to go to atlanta. the cdc hold ago press conference right now. >> a health care worker in texas has tested preliminarily positive for infection with ebola virus. confirmatory testing is underway at cdc and will be completed later today. we don't know what occurred in the care of the index patient, the original patient in dallas, but at some point, there was a breach in protocol and that

breach in protocol resulted in this infection. the health care worker developed symptoms on friday. they were assessed last night and this morning. or last night, i should say, today is sunday. they were assessed friday and tested yesterday and the laboratory response network laboratory in austin, texas, tested their result preliminarily positive. that result came in late last night, about exactly 12 hours ago, and i will outline the steps that we have been taking before, since and in the future to address this. did individual was self-monitoring. and immediately on developing symptoms, as appropriate, she contacted the health care system. and when she came in, she was

promptly isolated. the level of her stms symptoms and indications from the test itself suggest that the level of virus that she had was low. there are four things that we're doing at this point. first, to make sure that we do everything possible to care safely and effectively for this individual. second, assessing her possible contacts from the moment she developed symptoms, and the cdc team lead for the dallas investigation has interviewed her and it appears at this time that there is only one contact who may have had contact with her while she may have been infectious. that individual is under active monitoring. third, we are evaluating other potential health care worker

exposures because if this individual was exposed, which they were, it is possible that other individuals were exposed. we know that this individual did provide care to the index patient on multiple occasions and that care included extensive contact. fourth, we will undertake a complete investigation of how this may have occurred. that's so important so we can understand it better and intervene to prevent this from happening in the future. i want to go into more details first on what we are doing to promote safe and effective care and then on the investigation. in terms of safe and effective care, we had already begun several days ago to ramp up the education and training of health care workers at this facility.

the care of ebola can be done safely, but it's hard to do it safely. it requires meticulous and scrupulous attention to infection control. and even a single inadvertent, innocent slip can result in contamination. second, we are recommending to the facility that the number of workers who care for anyone with suspected ebola be kept to an absolute minimum. third, we recommend that the procedures that are undertaken on to support the care of that individual be limited solely to essential procedures. fourth, we're looking at personal protective equipment. understanding that there is a balance and putting more on isn't always safer, it may make it harder to provide effective care. so all aspect of personal protective equipment. and fifth, we're recommending that there be a full time

individual who is responsible only for the oversight, supervision and monitoring of the effective infection control while any patient with suspected or confirmed ebola is being cared for. cdc has sent additional staff to texas to assist with this response and we will continue to work closely with them. in the investigation itself, we look at three different phases. what happens before someone goes in to an area where someone expects or confirmed ebola is being cared for, what happens in that space, and what happens when they leave. the two areas where we will be looking particularly closely is the performance of kidney dialysis and respiratory intubation. both of those procedures may spread contaminated materials and are considered high risk procedures.

they were undertaken on the index patient as a desperate measure to try to safe his life. in taking off respiratory protective equipment, we identified this as a major potential area for risk. when you have gone into and potentially soiled or contaminated gloves or masks or other things to remove those without any risk of any contaminated material, touching you and being then on your clothes or face or skin and leading to an infection is critically important and not easy to do right. so these are areas that the investigation will look at, but we don't know what it will find. we'll be doing that over the coming days. before i turn it over the dr. laky, the commissioner of the texas department of state health services, i do want to make two final points.

the first is that, unfortunately, it is possible in the coming days we will see additional cases of ebola. this is because the health care workers who cared for this individual may have had a breach of the same nature of the individual who appears now to have preliminary positive tests. that risk is in the 48 people who are being monitored. all of them have been tested daily. none of them so far have developed symptoms or fever or in any health care workers who may have been exposed to this index patient while he was being cared for. we're determining how many health care workers that will be. that is an intensive investigation. it takes many hours of tracing steps. we'll always cast the net wider. there, though, is no risk to people outside of that circle of the health care workers who cared for the individual patient

and the initial 48 patients or contacts who had definite or possible contact with the index patient who we've already identified. the second point i want to make is that what we do to stop ebola is to break the length of transmission. to break the chains of transmission. and we do that by making sure that every person with ebola is promptly diagnosed, that they're promptly isolated, that we identify their contacts, and that we actively monitor their contacts every day for 21 days. and if they develop symptoms or fever, we do the same process again. that is how we have stopped every ebola outbreak in history, except the one currently in west africa. that is how we stopped it in lagos, nigeria, that is how we will stop it in dlags.

so breaking the links in the change in transmission is the key to preventing further spread. >> now i'd like to turn it over to dr. laky. >> thank you, dr. freed.. this is dr. laky. i appreciate all the support that the cdc has given us, not only over the night, but over the last several weeks as we've been working through this unprecedented event. our staff have been working throughout the night, trying to gather more information. as we get more information, as appropriate, we will provide that information. but as dr. frieden noted, we do have one health care worker. the health care worker that had extensive contact with our initial patient who did what was appropriate with the early symptoms that came in to be checked. and we facilitated getting the blood tests done. that test came back at 9:30 last night and, as dr. frieden noted, was positive. the controls were appropriate.

the amount of virus in her blood was less than what was there when they first index case came back, but it is a positive test. so our hearts really do go out to this individual and the family who is with us. health care worker who is willing to compassionately care for mr. duncan. again, our thoughts and prayer res with them. we have been preparing for events such as this. putting in contingency plans. we're refining those plans and a lot of work is taking place right now. as dr. frieden noted, the 48 original contacts continue to be monitored and they continue to do well. we have this one health care worker that now needs our care. and so, as dr. frieden noted, we have been and will continue to monitor health care workerses. they met up to make sure any health care worker that has any

fever or any other symptoms will be quickly identified as with this individual, continue to work to make sure the infection control practices that are being performed at the hospital are at the highest standards and fully evaluating what is under way and figure out exactly what happened that allowed this individual to be infected. we've brought in more public health officials, public health staff, epidemiology gists to make sure that we have the individuals we need to fully evaluate this situation. gists e sure that we have the individuals we need to fully evaluate this situatiogists to sure that we have the individuals we need to fully evaluate this situatioists to m sure that we have the individuals we need to fully evaluate this situation. again, appreciate the support and the work from the cdc as they help us to work through this situation right now in texas. thank you. >> we will now take questions. we'll start in the room and go to the phone. >> sir. >> steve gillbot from wsvt in atlanta. this health care worker has had

multiple contact with the original patient. in your interviews with her, has she been specifically isolate a chance where this may have occurred, where this breach you say in those interviews with her talking about why you're specifically investigating where she's taking off the equipment or anything, why you're focusing on that part in your investigation? >> we have spoken with the health care worker. and that individual has not been able to identify a specific breach. the way we do investigations like this is we look at every single interaction, what was the nature of thanter action. we look at any other information we can gather. i was not mentioning the taking on or off ppe or the procedures related to the investigation, but as a general rule, these are the two areas where we see the greatest risk. >> and is this going to change the way health care workers anywhere, whether it's here in atlanta, dallas, interact with

these potential patiences, wearing more gear, what is going to change now? >> i think it certainly is very concerning and it tells us there is a need to enhance the training and protocol toes make sure the protocols are followed. the protocols work. we have deckads of experience caring for patients with ebola. but we know even a single lapse or breach, inadvertent kb can result in infection. so figuring out all the things that we can do to minimize that risk, such as those i went through reducing the number of health care workers, having a sight monitor it there, these are all things that we'll be looking at closely. we'll go to the phone for questions. >> thank you. we'll begin the question and answer session. if you'd like to ask your question, please press star 1. unmute your phone and say your name clearly. i'll introduce you by name. our first question comes from dr. richard beser, abc news. >> hi.

dr. frieden, you were saying how difficult it is to implement proper infection control and how one slip can be so dangerous. is there any consideration of moving to a system where you would move parents to these specialized units where they actually are trained instead of treating them in hospitals where they really don't have that training? >> we're going to look at all opportunities to improve the level of safety and to minimize risk. but we can't let any hospital let its guard down because a patient, an american returning or someone else coming into this country who had exposure and maybe didn't even have an awareness of that exposure may become ill. so we do want hospitals to have the possibility to identity and limit exposure to ebola. anyone who has been in liberia

or new guinea in the past 21 days should be immediately isolated and veelted for ebola. i would distinguish that diagnosis needs to be done anywhere. then thinking about what is the safest way to provide that care, that's something we'll absolutely be looking at. >> thanks very much. >> cdc director tom frieden briefing reporters in atlanta on this second confirmed case of ebola in the united states. before we went to the news conference, sharyl attkisson, you were saying your own research indicates ebola could get worse. isn't there a fine line of looking at these developments and what's happening around the globe and spreading fear? >> absolutely. the media plays an extremely important role in this case to take what the government is telling us instead of its face value and examining the contradictions. ghee, it's so hard to get? maybe it's not that hard to get. the media's job is to dissect

that and make some truth to this examination. >> that's exactly right, cheryl. here we have a medical professional, someone trained with treating patients with infectious disease. meanwhile, we have the president of the united states saying don't worry about it. you can't get it sitting next to someone on the bus. well, yes, you can. if that person coughs on you, possibly spreads their bodily fluids on you in some way. we're getting a lot of contradictory statements from our politicians and i think the press's job is to dissect that and get to the truth. we have this press conference here where i'm listening to this man being called patient index. his name was thomas eric duncan. he died of ebola. he lied about coming into the united states. we are not stopping flights from ebola zones for whatever reason. we have a press conference in texas where our own politicians are telling us, well, we can't stop those flights because it's -- it's ridiculous. >> it's interesting to me amy

brought up to quickly president obama and his previous statements. i want you to talk about the corage and talk about the kwofrage and why some on of this is being cast in bipartisan terms. >> i think blaming president obama for anything with ebola is purely political partisan and is just out of place. >> but media criticism, at the time of president reagan for appearing to move slowly on aids. so why -- is it not fair at all? cdc is a part of the obama administration. >> keep politics out of it. i'd like to talk about the media. i think the media has done a public disservice in many wayses and a public service on this issue. it is serious and we should be taking it seriously. i think this service has been -- three months ago, i saw the headline, we all did, of pappic. and that was one case, perhaps, in new york city. remember that way back? it was panic. there's no need for panic then. i don't think there's any need for panic now.

but i have to say, trust us, trust the government, how do you trust them when this hospital let this guy go. that was one breach in protocol. now another breach in protocol and the health worker gets the disease. while they're telling us to trust them, it's hard to do. >> yesterday's new york daily news cover said ebola scare in brooklyn. this was a kid who some people thought would have the virus. he didn't. and that kind of thing, cheryl, makes me think that we have a hair trigger on anything now having to do with ebola. >> and this is such an important case. you can understand the reaction. but we're probably going to swing, as human nature does, from false alambs to perhaps get can complaints on to another possible case. there's sort of a cycle that goes. yes, the media needs to strike and balance and keep bringing that information. this is an extremely important and dangerous things happening. >> bill says this resolves in part around trust in government. that would seem to support your point that the media ought to

focus on what the obama administration is or is not doing. you can't stop this from around the world. maybe it's not so partisan. >> bill, it's not a partisan criticism of president obama to say you're contradicting your own health officials when you're trying to reassure the public and at the same time, sending 3,000 u.s. troops into liberia. again, we're getting contradictory information there. whether or not they're going to have contact with local. >> coming up, i'm glad we're sending 3,000 troops to liberia and new guinea and sierra leone to help stop the spread of disease in those countries. it's ignited -- >> i have to cut you off. more media buzz in just a moment.

gay marriage became legal in seven more states this week after supreme court declined to hear a series of appeals. and what really struck me, cheryl, is that although this was certainly treated as a news story, conservative commentators who have been on the other side of this issue, most of them didn't have anything to say. there wasn't much talk about it among conservative pundits on fox. i'm wondering if you think that the mainstream coverage has been sympathetic to the whole notion of same-sex marriage. >> absolutely. there are certain key issues that the mainstream media covers. you will see the one-sided characters, the couples being discriminated against and facing these challenges. you don't see many sympathetic characters being portrayed on the other side. that viewpoint is successfully beenvilleantized by a campaign that i think is made the debate over gay marriage in the united states effectively dead. it's been successful. i think conservatives are giving up ta battle. >> so public opinion has clearly

shifted, but you're saying the people who long supported traditional marriage between a man and a woman are being demonized and are the media part of that campaign? are they being used? >> well, i think they're part of it, maybe not in a concerted, orchestrated way, but in the sense how they feel and the images they like to portray. i don't think a lot of minds have necessarily been changed. there are religious christians, religious muslims who believe it's wrong. but they are not going to voice those oppositions as treely as they might have. >> if the supreme court acted, i went on a whole number of conservative websites and didn't see much on this. >> you didn't. conservatives wroebl wrote more about g with he neth paltrow introducing president obama. i think part of it is that the media likes to follow on

controversy and republicans are not kicking up a lot of controversy over this issue. we are in a campaign election year with the midterms, you know, a month away. and i don't think that republicans want to focus on gay marriage, which is very different from ten years ago when -- but let's remind people, bill, of ten years ago when president obama ran for re-election on a platform that included a constitutional to pan same-sex marriage. the shift has been remarkable and we're seeing that in the coverage. >> there are 11 state issues on the ballot in 2004. anti-same-sex marriage. every one of them passed. it's stunning. we have not seen in our lifetime any movement on the right or the left move this fast in terms of public opinion. but i have to say, i know the media saluted this. i thought this was a cowardly decision on the part ofsupreme . the court basically would refuse to take the entire case. they just refused to hear five

because they said they want to wait until public opinion catches up. then they'll take another case and approve same-sex marriage in office. i think dolly is right. it's not the court's decision to wait for public opinion to camp up. it's their time to do the right thing and they didn't. >> well, the stories that i see, understandably all have images of happy couples getting married or saying they're going to get married. and i think over time it has become legal in more states. clearly public opinion among younger folks have shifted and the media coverage, i agree with you, has been imic so it as a civil rights battle. >> there was, as i said, an orchestrated campaign, perfectly legal, nothing wrong with it. but there was a lobbying effort to make sure the news media as well as the popular media and entertainment media began to portray a lot of positive images in the past couple of years as gay and lesbian couples leading normal and happy lives like everybody else. >> you know, i wanted to touch on a story that's gotten so much

attention this week. that is leon panetta's book criticizing president obama for acting like a law profoes fesser and not a leader on foreign policy. in addition to the fact that panetta has been out there flogging it, had to be given so much attention to this book? >> well, because who leon panetta is. wide experience under two or three presidents. big, big jobs. he's a democrat. he had two of the biggest jobs under president obama. when he comes out and criticizes, rightly or wrongly, president obama for policy decisions made and for his style of governing, at this time, that's going to make a lot of news. >> and amy, a lot of journalists have known panetta as his days in the clinton white house and he has a lot of credit blth and i think that's part of the equation there, as well. >> certainly he does. he's also not the first cabinet member to come out with a memoir piling on the president. we have also public opinion polls showing the majority of

americans don't have faith in this president. so his criticisms are basically sort of piling on the momentum. >> let me play a sound bite for you. i've been struck by the degree that almost no one asked this question. charlie rose did raise it. >> there are those who say, you know, he appointed i to two of the highest positions that this country has to offer. just wait until he's out of office before criticizing. >> you know what? it's exactly because i am very loyal to this president because i want him to succeed. >> you look at this and you wonder, is it all coincidental timing. if you talk about pannell ta, hillary clinton and other things, some of 24e78 information would have been helpful perhaps to know some years ago. but, yes, there could be some election politics at play here. >> right. if it's such an active conscious, why do you need these people to wait until they have a book? all right. coming up, mr. bill o'reiley in

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there can be more ebola cases coming in our country among health workers as a second person has become effected. the victim is a female nurse in dallas who tested positive in a preliminary test. the cdc director says it is possible that other people were exposed, as well. he says the agency is sending additional staff to investigate exactly how this happened. but he points out that some kind of breach in protocol may have led to the infection. if confirmed, it would be the first time the disease was actually transmitted here in the u.s. that nurse is providing care to thomas eric duncan, the liberian man who, of course, died from the ebola virus on wednesday.

i'm eric shawn and i'll see you at the top of the hour on this latest ebola case. the top of the hour with america's news headquarters. now back to media buzz and howie. >> anyone who watches the factor knows that bill o'reiley has strong opinions about the media. and what better subject for this program. plus he's got a new best selling book out, killing patton. the strange death of world war ii's most audacious general. i sat down with him in new york. >> bill oh lily, welcome. >> thank you. >> i finally got you to admit last week that the press is now covering president obama aggressively. but you say their hearts aren't in it. if they're not high-fiving each other, incident doesn't count? >> does it count? i guess it counts that we're getting the news errored after six years. that's an improvement. but what i meant was that they're -- the press is not in

business any more to give the folks information. that's not what they do. they are in business to promote a certain agenda. and that is really harming the nation. that's the point i was trying to make. >> wait a second. if journalists are digging into the secret service, the va, problems with obama care, how is that pushing an agenda? isn't that old fashioned roaring? >> if you look at sharyl attkisson's experience, she couldn't get her stories on the air. >> that's true. >> and she had to leave that organization. so now they playing catchup because the polls say president obama is in disfavor? yeah, they are. it's easier because the approximately is down in the polls. >> easier for them. >> for the press to pile on and for news organizations to green light this? >> yeah. the press's role in america is very clear. what the founding fathers wanted gave us constitutional protections to keep an eye on all the powerful people, not to pick and choose who they want to get, all right?

and that certainly hasn't been done, i'd say, in the last deckade. >> what do you think of these liberals at msnbc who were all over george bush's war and now seem to be falling in line behind obama's war? >> well, it was interesting to see how they spun that over there. they basically said, oh, every administration has people would disagree. and, you know, i it was -- it was humoress. but let's be honest, msnbc's ratings cannot really get much lower. they're scratching which means no one is watching them during the day and very few at night. it's not a news organization. it's a cable channel that promotes left wing causes, not a news organization. what i am amazed at is that nbc just doesn't pull the plug. once you fall behind cnn, which they have, where is there to go on this thick? they're not going to be successful. they've been on the air 18 years. it's not going happen. so why doesn't nbc, with all its power and resources, use that

cable network for something different and better? it's just amazing to me. >> let's talk about fox. you had a conservative guest on roently and you said don't give me the obama bashing, give me the facts. are there conservative commentators that are never, ever going to say anything nice about president obama? >> yes. and you see them on the factor because it is boring. it is boring to me. >> it's predictable. >> yes. we know you don't like the president. advance whatever story it is we're talking about. advance it. bring some facts in. give me a perspective, give sme something different. don't say boots on the ground 45 times. i'm tired of it. what we try to do here is mix liberals and conservatives. if you tally up the guests on the factor for the week, it's pretty much even. and i try to be a guy who challenges everybody, although i am a traditional man and i believe america's finest days are not now. and i'd like to get back to that. >> about you have something positive to say about the

president, do you get pushback from the audience? >> no. i wouldn't say our ratings don't reflect that. there's no -- you know, i'll get a -- but i get hostile mail about everything i do. >> welcome to my world. >> but there are people who don't like barack obama. and if you say something nice about him, then you're a sellout or a liberal or this and that. but there are other people on the left who are just as insane. and those people are called zealots. that's what they're called. >> do you see a budding press romance with hillary? >> i don't think the president is going to be as jazzed about hillary clinton running for president as they were about barack obama. but i surely think the mainstream national media will support her effort rather than a republican, no matter who that is. will it be as pronounced as the obama situation? no. by it will be intense. hillary is going to get a big boost from the press.

>> you recently talked about the plunge in the news business and it's been quite dramatic. you said you think a major reason is the nastiness and the meanness. do you know after looms and pinheads? >> pin head is a term of endearme endearment. pinhead is a way i refer to myself times. i'm not a smear merchant. i don't go after people on a personal level. i will go after you hard if i disagree with you on policy or fink your thinking is harming children or something like that. but there's a difference between that and this personal attack/smear machine. let's take leon panetta. you now he's a traitor, he's a disgraceful human being, just because he's telling the truth, as he sees it. that's a personal attack. if you want to disagree with panetta, disagree with what on what he's saying. >> do you think you sometimes go too far in your language? >> look, nobody is perfect.

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>> you've you've written killing lincoln, killing kennedy, killing jesus and now the best, killing patton. what is this with death? >> we're trying to bring. all of these are 2 million sellers plus. patton may be the best selling of them all. >> you once taught high school. >> i was a high school history teacher. but what we've done here is that the history industry is dry and it's 800 pages and you can't get through it. robert carrow is a brilliant man. how many people are going to read his books on lbj? i'm not a brilliant man, but i understand what happens and how to tell a story. so our history books are like thrillers. so people can enjoy them no matter what. you don't have to be a history fanatic and you can learn a lot in the process. so everybody wins. >> were you drawn to patton as a subject in part because he did not get along with president truman or the ek he koes of the

battles he had in world war ii in today's landscape? >> i like patton as the subject of book because everything was swirling around him. hitler, stalin, fdr, patton was the guy stirring the last five months of the world war ii in europe. the worst time of the history of civilization. and he was right there on everything. and then the fact that he died mysteriously adds to the narrative. so it was a perfect subject to me. >> did you start out with the notion that patton, perhaps, did not die as advertised because he happened to be a car accident victim and there might have been an assassination plot by stalin or did you come to that as you started digging into it? >> we knew there were questions about patton's death. what we do, martin dugard do what we call investigative history. we say, okay, there are questions about jfk's death. so let's look at that. we debunked all the conspiracy

theories in killing kennedy. we did the same thing with patton. there are questions about his death. let's take a look. what we found is pretty harrowing. >> you were able to abl talk about this book on letterman, on stephanopoulos, will you now drop the argument that you're a lonely outsider who is not accepted by the mainstream media? >> it's not about being skepd. it's about success. and i bring ratings to those shows. so when i go on letterman or the morning shows, the ratings go up. that's when they have me on. >> do you think there's been a change? >> yeah, i think over the -- look, at first, they tried to destroy me, they being the mainstream media. i've been here 18 years so they've given that up. >> not going anywhere. >> right. so i can be a benefit to them because the ratings will go up. i think we do interesting things, so the segments are good. they do have me in. they say oh, o'reiley, you're a best seller because you're on tv. you have to have the product. you're on tv, you can write a

book, if it's not good, it's not going to sell. you have to have a good book. >> got to have word-of-mouth. >> you've got to have it. >> you love to take whacks at jon stewart and he enjoys beating you up on you and beating up on fox pep often retreats to i'm just a guy with a comedy show, but at the same time, i think he's an important social critic. is he trying to have it both ways? >> no. i think you're overestimating his importance. i'll be on stewart next week. i think stewart is a very, very smart man who is marketing himself to an extremely liberal audience, a young liberal audience. and he's going to stay in that envelope so he's successful and comedy central makes money. does he believe everything he says? no. is he a comedian primarily? yes. are you a pinhead if you believe what he says? absolutely you are. >> there's that pinhead word again. >> yeah. the last time i was on, i called his audience all stone slackers. that's a large part of his

audience. they're out in the ozone. but i don't -- i don't diminish him as a cultural figure. he is not a journalist figure, but culturally, he's very important. >> well, he can't be totally inflating his importance or you wouldn't be on the show. >> i go on the show just to amuse myself, just to smack him around here and there, you know? because who else is going to do that but me? no one. most people are intimidated by him. so it's more amusing than anything else. his audience, they're not likely to buy my book, okay? but we get a segment on the factor from it, so does a lot of cross promotion and it works. >> an awesome sxonresponsibilit. bill o'reileo'reiley, thank you. >> thanks for having me in? >> after the break, why isn't there more interest in the midterms? she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved

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time to talk about the midterms. joining us on cusack editor in chief of the hill, and susan, i've never seen a midterm election where on the national level so few people seem to be paying attention. >> i think if you look at the tracking over the years, tens, decades, midterms always track lower than the election where the president runs. fewer people are paying attention. that's not new. what's new this time is it's dropped off so much, particularly from the 2010 election where everybody was so much more interested and enthusiastic. which really paid off for republicans. what ultimately matters is people who vote are probably on track for about average last election, was still about average, even though we had all that enthusiasm.

really average turnout. >> i think it's just kind of almost blown off the radar screen by the other big stories, isis, secret service, ebola. of course, pew survey says only 15% of people say they're following the election closely compared to 36% for ebola. >> i think part of the case for washington, and these stories are more interesting, can i get ebola? and isis, the administration on it has gotten a lot of attention and that's not just for democrats but it's clearly not on the radar. >> one national -- one story got a lot of national attention was kentucky, did you vote for barack obama. she gives this long answer and kind of refuses to answer the question. >> i think this highlights the enduring importance of editorial boards. everybody says let's write them off now, social media, what do we need them for? here's a shining example where there they're questioning her, making her answer and putting it

out on they're using social media to show the importance of the editorial board. >> good media answer. and also in terms of the focus on president obama, a lot of people replayed that sound bite where he said i'm not on the ballot but my policies are on the ballot. that's not necessarily how democrats want to frame this election. >> no, that's right. this is what republicans wanted. they did act immediately on it. overall, i think it was rough week for democrats. >> you're going to score this you would say that who won the media week? >> i would say republicans as you talked about earlier, leon panetta just dominated the news cycle. and that really played into the gop criticisms. >> when have the democrats have a good week lately? >> you were saying republicans won the media week? >> i think they have. they have consistently won it here we are leading up to the important midterm the polls are looking much more in their favor. that has dominated the news cycle in addition to the negative press about democrats and the obama white house. not a good week for democrats. >> just over three weeks to go i

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