have enjoyed our show and are learning to be more of a healthy you. see you next time. learning to be more of a healthy you. see you next time. i'm arthel neville time now time now for "sunday house call." >> joining us is arthur of the inner pulse. >> but we'll begin with breaking news this morning that this morning is happening. another person in the united states has tested positive for preliminary testing for ebola. dr. siegal, hello to you. tell me, they reporting there is

a possible breach in protocol. what could have happened here? >> first of all, this was a nurse caring for duncap. so this is somebody directly involved we bo louisiana, ebola secretions and was wearing the proper suiting, but the problem is that she may not have put it on properly. and up until this point, the dallas health officials have been directly involved with overseeing this. and i'm one of the people now saying i think the centers for disease control just has to take this over because this can happen. you have to understand, if you're putting on a suit you're not familiar with, and we don't know all the facts yet, and you have secretions all over the place, blood, vomit, diarrhea, all the things we have been talking on the show here, if you don't follow protocol 100% of the time, you can come into contact with the secretions and catch ebola. the test is 95% sensitive. the cdc will confirm it.

it's causing panic but i want people out there to know this was someone in direct contact with an ebola patient and ebola secretion. >> we are not blaming the health care worker. it's not her fault, she was doing her job there, but i'm bringing you into this because people are wondering, this lady has a family she's in contact with. so again, we are not trying to insight panic but tell me your take on this. >> my take is totally different. and i think someone said the only doctor so far that has talked about closing this out, i have no problem with america saving the world. i have no problem with us sending humanitarian soldiers, building all the ebola treatment centers over there, but there are a lot of rituals and burial rituals, there's a lot of things that are coming out of there. and we don't completely understand ebola. you have to tell me how exactly the nbc cameraman got ebola just from shooting the video. you have to tell me how the nurse -- >> excuse me, one minute.

>> how she was able to put the gloves on her face and got ebola? >> we are not talking about that case but the nurse in the hospital here. you are going to insight panic here on the tv. we don't know how the nbc camera person got this, you're speculating. you weren't there. >> you know what concerns me? >> you are going to insight panic. >> doctors, what concerns me is first we are told it's body fluids, vomit, blood, this sort of thing, fluids. then we are told maybe the virus can survive on doorknobs or counter tops for a few hours. then the nurse in spain has it touch the mucosa on the eyes. and sadly this nurse in texas may have not followed protocol. so the deeper question viewers want to know about is, do we know exactly, dr. siegal, how is it spread? should we worry if you're not a health care worker, is it confined just to that, can you

sit on the bus or airplane and pick up ebola? is it overblown? what do we need to know, the facts not the fears. >> here's the facts. this virus has been around since 1976 and the health care workers are most at risk and most in contact. what i'm concerned about the reaction out there is if i say to you, you can get it sitting on a bus, everyone out there thinks that's how you are getting it. the way you generally get it, 99.99% of the time is being in direct contact with the secretions of ebola. there's no evidence that's changed and i'm not surprised to find a health care worker getting it. we saw that with brantley, it's the same thing. they were taking care of ebola patients and wearing protective clothing but probably didn't use it exactly right. >> i want to bring in dr. samadi back in. i understand dr. siegal's concern about not insighting fear, but to your point, dr. samadi, there are people out there who have that same

question. why aren't we cutting off flights from these countries at the moment from people coming in from the countries where it's just an outbreak there. >> you have to let me speak. because if i can't get the word out, then there's no issue to do this. you don't have any vaccine right now, right? the vaccines will come many the next few months. you're not prepared to have the antibodies. all i'm saying is, until we get our emergency rooms ready, until we get our act ready and until we understand exactly how the virus is going to spread, i will tell you, mr. president, bring up those walls. control the flights out. you have to protect americans. this whole thing about, we are going to be okay, we are going to be okay. there will be no more number of e bo bola ebolas. this is not to create panic. they stid a great job with s.a.r.s. wear your mask, the airlines were ready.

>> they stopped flights in toronto, canada. >> right. so the cdc should not say 1.4 million people are going to be affected by this in january. you know how they are counting the numbers? 8,000 people diagnosed, 4,000 people dead. you tell me how they are counting the people when you have dead bodies in liberia -- >> let me just get back to this for a second. >> we have to protect americans. >> someone is infected we ith ebola, have tylenol, keep your temperature down, then you come to america after tylenol, keep the temperature down, you have ebola. >> i'm with him, but you have to understand. until we get our act ready and are prepared, keep the war over there. america is a beautiful country. listen, we are not saying ignore them. we are saying sending troops, swernding our health care. these people can come back. we are building ebola treatment centers. we don't want people to panic.

but i also as a doctor have to take care of my patients and families. this nurse probably exposed other nurses and doctors and this has potential to become epidemic. we need to educate people. that's all i said. >> let me talk about this for a second because i want people to understand this scientifically. if the fear quotient is high enough and the money quotient follows, we'll have to close off the flights. we have one patient, one person that slipped in. the second one got it from him. and that person is being isolated. one person. did you know 2,000 cases of malaria come in every year? because there are 20 million new cases of malaria every year, t africa. we should close the airports for malaria because it's costing $43 billion to take care of malaria patients here in the united states. $43 billion last year. we can close flights because of malaria. there are 2,000 patients a year

coming from des moines and we have to take care of them. ebola is a difficult virus to catch. we have to close air travel off because of the fear and the panic. not because of one case. because of the fear and panic. if we do that -- >> fear and panic doesn't cause ebola. >> now we have two cases. >> that's part of the heated debate between these two medical professionals, how contentious this issue of ebola can be in terms of the facts. there's a lot more going on and we'll get to that in a minute. and claiming a million lives every year, and some people don't know they have it until it's too late. we'll look at the fight against lung cancer and why it is one of the most important issues that we can face. "sunday housecall" when we come back.

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back now sunday back now to "sunday housecall." the media attention and the concern about ebola makes it easy to lose track of perspective, but a lot of the diseases kill a lot more people than ebola so far. for example, lung cancer. doctors are now finding that the disease can lie hidden in the body for as long as 20 years. and by the time the patient is diagnosed, sadly, it's too late. dr. samadi, what is this, you can have lung cancer and not know it? >> lung cancer is the deadliest cancer in the world. 1.5 million people die from this. and the way we detect this today, basically if you have symptoms, somebody is coughing blood or having pain, weight loss, et cetera, we would be getting a chest x-ray and cat

scan. think about the fact, this is an article that came into the british scientists and american scientists, they look at the fact that if you're a smoker. if you smoked 20 years ago, once you have the smoke attack those lung cells, there are some mutations and changes in your dna that can carry you for the next 10 to 20 years and you do not have any symptoms. we are excited on this medical news. this is called liquid biopsy. what if we could find dnas or the secret of all the mutations and stop the disease before it becomes apparent on or clinical data or the cat scans and chest x-rays. this is an exciting message coming from lung cancer. it is not many the clinical stage yet but we are getting to the creator of our human body and how the secret code holds our dna. >> can you test for lung cancer besides screening? and how do you do that?

>> the key is, i want to stay scientific and not political, here's the key when it comes to lung cancer. lung cancer is the number two killer in the united states for men and women. it is harbored for years and by the time we diagnose it it's too late to do somebody about it. smoking is a huge part of it and smoking activates you against it. you get more and more lung cancer if you smoke. but you have genetic abnormalities that lead you to develop lung cancer. we can't find it. so eric, what the study does is looks earlier at the genetic changes and looks to see what your genetic abnormalities are earlier. we can isolate you to say, we are at high risk. you may develop lung cancer. then we can maybe get proteins to reverse the genetics. >> dana reid, remember her, didn't smoke and comes down with

lung cancer and dies. >> that's the very important point. they talk at the genetics component of this and also there could be radon in the basement doing this. they also talk about secondhand smoking but the genes are probably the start of the problem. and there are enzymes. over the years they turn the genes into a real cancer. if we can detect the genetic markers that cause this, we may not even need any kind of chest x-ray or cat scan. >> there's already a gene out there called egfr that causes 20% of the certain lung cancers. there's a miraculous treatment out there called egfr. if you have it, we can give you a drug that miraculous ly shrins your lung cancer. and you get a lot of resistance to it going down. so lung cancer is based on many genetic abnormalities, not just

one. even if we correct it at one, you develop other problems. >> look for the genetic marker, that's important. >> and the treatment. >> it can be unsightly and sometimes lead to more serious problems. so what exactly is the cause of toenail fungus and what can you do to get rid of it? our doctors are back with the answer and you don't want to miss that one coming up next. [ narrator ] mama sherman and the legion of super fans. no sign of him yet. keep looking. [ narrator ] their mission: to get richard sherman his campbell's chunky soup. hi, baby! hi, mama! take us home! wow! it's new chunky beer-n-cheese with beef and bacon soup. beer... cheese... beef... bacon... ♪ i love it. and mama loves you. [ all ] awwwwww! it fills you up right.

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something else going on in the body? i get asked this every single week in my office, and the answer is there's different treatments for this. first, people want to know, can they put a cream on? can they put some a cream on ory payment their nails with an antifungal? that doesn't work. i never find that to cure the problem. orals work, but it is a prescription only item. if i treat but that i have to check your liver function because the medicines can affect your function. but for a month, stop it. another month, stop it, it has a big impact on nail fungus and they are trying laser treatments now. the doctors can use laser treatment in thes off set the fungus. where does it come from? from moist areas, gyms, if you have a problem with the nails, people with diabetes, or

slow-growing nails. >> does it mean something else is going wrong? >> obviously, someone with diabetes is more susceptible and those with compromised immune system because the fungus is in when the defense mechanism is down but when people walk around swimming fools and locker rooms, the fungus gets through but it is a fungus of the skin that is under the nail and because it is covering it we have a difficult time getting to it so a lot of the creams do not work because it cannot get under. oral medications work but you need to be on them for six months. i like, for example, a tea treat oil or oregeno oil, twice a day, works well. that is easy. >> why would tea tree oil and

oregeno work if the creams don't work? >> you have to keep the nails short and you can make it flat on tap and this oil, twice a day, you take a q tip and run around the nails and it works. >> with athlete's foot it is between the christian and the sprays work. >> lasers are a good treatment but it is excite expensive and costs $1,000 a treatment but it works in 50 percent to 60 percent. >> my mom said keep your socks on in the hotel room. >> and throw out the old shoes? >> what? >> that is where where the fungus is found, they like the humidity and the old stuff they love it. >> shoes and wear socks. >> is there a possible cure for type 1 diabetes?

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>> good news for die beatics. researchers have a weapon at harvard in the fight against type one which could end up and replace all the insulin injections or pumps. this is a relief if you have to use the insurance lynn. >> if it pans out the way we for see, it has potential to be a huge breakthrough. we are talking about type 1 diabetes which is auto immune disease. type two diabetes in industrial countries is 90 percent. this is 10 percent, the juvenile diabetes, where the pancreas does not make the insulins-see creating cells and was found by harvard researchers after using the stem cells to develop billions of the insulin insulin-secreting cells and it has worked in the mice. six months after, the sugar is under control and they have a positive result.

new they have to protect those. how do you protect the cells? it is coming for human clinical trials the next few years but if it pans out, no more insulin and we can put in like a false pancreas. >> why type 1 and not type 2 and it is type 2 that more people have? >> type 2 is people are obese and your pancreas is chugging along but not making enough insulin. type one, you have immune reaction, your body is destroying your pancreas, destroy the part of the pancreas that makes insulins to get rid of the glucose. we have tried so many things over the years including pancreas transplants, and cell transplants, the cell that makes

insulin. finally they are making the cells using stem cells. 150 million cells is what necessity need. they put them in mice the mice were controlled. >> if you have diabetes how do you stop it or prevent coming from it? >> type one, it is the genes. it is the airport bodies -- it is the antibodies attacking you. two, type two, exercise and lose weight. >> everything we talk about including reducing obesity is type two, that goes hand in hand with diabetes, sleeping, antioxidants, we are fans of all of this, that has helped. this is a revolutionary change when it comes to type 1 diabetes and i hope if we have three to five years it will be effective. >> it is an epidemic. three people people. take care, folks.

>> thank you for the lively debate. that does it for us. >> thank you for watching us, we are each each sunday on the fox news channel. join us every sunday, please. >> we will have a conversation with bill o'reilly coming up on all things media and we are awaiting a centers for disease control news conference in atlanta, probably the latest about a second confirmed case of ebola virus, involving a caption health care worker. we have the isis terrorist making progress again, the secret service scandal taking a troubling turn every headline is negative for the white house. especially the intense and breathless coverage of ebola virus. in dallas there are new worries. >> ebola virus death in this country.