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contracted ebola from thomas duncan. he's the liberian man who died from the disease last week. health officials calling this a clear breach of infection control protocol. that is despite claims that the nurse wore protective clothing while treating duncan. bryan llenas live from our new york newsroom. can you explain this breach in safety protocol and what is being done to prevent this from happening again? >> good evening, heather. the nurse treated and had extensive contact with duncan on multiple occasions during his second visit to the hospital. she wore her full protective suit, a gown, gloves, mask, and shield, while caring for him. and yet she still got infected with ebola. so now the cdc is sending additional staff to texas health presbyterian hospital to investigate where they say a clear breach in safety protocol took place. they're particularly concerned about how workers are taking off their personal protective suits after dealing with an ebola patient. it's a high-risk task that if done carelessly can lead to

contamination. when you have gone into and potentially soiled gloves or mask, to remove those without any risk of contaminated material touching you and being then on your clothes or face or skin and leading to an infection is critically important and not easy to do right. >> the cdc is also looking into whether high-risk desperate procedures to try to save duncan's life, kidney dialysis and respiratory intubation, exposed other workers to the virus. the cdc announced a multistep plan to prevent breaches from happening again, recommending hospitals appoint an ebola czar to oversee safety protocols, limiting the number of health care workers who interact with an ebola patient, and improving

education in hospitals among other things. a nationwide survey released today shows 76% of america's nurses still have not been told how to handle patients infected with ebola. unbelievable, heather. >> a huge concern right there. what more can you tell us about an ebola scare in boston today? >> well, this afternoon the harvard vanguard medical associates clinic in braintree, massachusetts was briefly evacuated after a man who recently visited liberia walked in complaining of a headache and mussing aches. medical center where a specialized team is a"ussing him for possible ebola. meanwhile, officials at los angeles airport just had a news conference. hazmat teams responded to a report of a passenger with flu-like symptoms aboard united airlines 703. officials say that passenger does not, does not have ebola.

some more good news. according to his doctors, ashoka mukpo, the nbc cameraman infected with ebola, seems to be improving at the nebraska medical center. heather? >> there's a lot going on. bryan llenas joining us live. thank you. so let's take a look at exactly how we got here. the world health organization issued its first notice on the current ebola outbreak in west africa in march of this year. to date there have been more than 8,000 cases and 4,000 deaths in the region. that region, the majority of them occurring in guinea, liberia, and sierra leone. five patients have been treated inside the united states after being diagnosed in west africa. in late july dr. kent brantly and nancy writebol became the first americans infected webla while working as missionaries in liberia. both received experimental drugs before returning to the u.s. brantly arrived at emory university in atlanta on august 2nd.

writebol checked in three days later. doctors discharged them after weekends inside. a renowned isolation center declaring them no risk to the public. writebol privately left the hospital on august 19th. dr. brantly spoke to the public upon his release on the 21st. >> today is a miraculous day. i'm thrilled to be alive, to be well, and to be reunited with my family. >> dr. rick sacre also became infected while treating patients in liberia. he was admitted to the nebraska medical center in omaha on september 5th and discharged 25 days later. the fourth payment is an unidentified american citizen who caught ebola in sierra leone. that person now being treated at emory university hospital. and finally, a freelance cameraman for nbc news tested positive for the virus on october 22nd. ashoka mukpo arrived stateside last monday and is now at the nebraska medical center. as you heard in bryan's report,

the hospital now saying that he is improving and doctors are happy with his progress. he is receiving blood transfusions from an ebola survivor. we mentioned kent brantly. as part of his treatment. two people have now been diagnosed with ebola while inside the united states. the first patient thomas duncan, or thomas eric duncan died last wednesday. he caught the virus in his home country in liberia but showed no symptoms when he boarded a plane for dallas. he arrived in texas on september 20th. duncan's family say he felt sick on the 24th. he visited texas health presbyterian hospital the next day. and records show that doctors sent him home that day despite a 103 degree fever. three days later he is rushed to the e.r. and put in isolation. he died on october 8th, more than a week after his diagnosis. and that all brings us to today and our second patient. the cdc confirming a nurse who

treated duncan has tested positive for ebola. marking the first time that the disease has been transmitted here in the united states. stay with fox news for continuing coverage of the ebola crisis. catch a special "justice with judge jeanine." that is tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern. new developments tonight in the world's fight against isis terrorists. turkey will now let the u.s. and our coalition allies use its bases for military operations inside iraq and syria. and that is a virtual breakthrough with turkey, which has so far resisted providing much assistance at all. meanwhile, the shells keep falling in the syrian city of kobani, the town which sits just yards from turkey's border, has been under constant siege by isis militants for weeks now. kurdish forces have dug in but are outgunned and short on supplies. they say increased coalition air strikes in the area are helping. at least 45 there in the past few days, but no word on how

much longer they will be able to hold out on their own. greg palkot is at the turkey-syria border tonight with the latest. greg? >> reporter: heather, isis terrorists are on the rampage across the mideast, including over in iraq. we'll have more on that. but first developments closer to where we are. centcom confirming that in the past 24 hours they have launched three more air strikes on isis positions in the syan town of kobani. and sources close to the kurdish defenders there tell us now that the attacks are stepping up they are having an effect. the terrorist advance we are told has been stopped since friday. still, the clashes continue into tonight between kurdish fighters and the terrorists. and they are leaving big casualties on both sides. the death toll is now said to be over 500, including civilians. and we are told isis has rushed in more fighters and is set for a major new offensive. this is becoming a grudge match and a very dangerous one. meanwhile, over in iraq, isis is

on the offensive as well in the wake of a wave of bombings saturday around baghdad. there were more isis bombings today. to the northeast of the capital. and they left 30 dead. also killed in another blast, the police chief of the important anbar province in western iraq. isis control there could be a big threat to baghdad and, by the way, 1,500 u.s. troops there. one report today even suggests that the isis move on the syrian town of kobani could be just a decoy mission to distract attention away from the isis moves inside iraq. on the ground here it looks different. isis would appear to want it all. heather. >> thank you, greg. right now police investigating after a hayride turned to tragedy. one teenager has died, many others injured after a fun fall night went horribly wrong. and now authorities want to know exactly what happened. and later, mid-terms just three weeks away. candidates in some battleground

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well, fox news is america's election headquarters. and we are about three weeks away from the mid-terms. several critical senate races are still seemingly deadlocked. one of those in iowa where tonight former presidential nominee governor mitt romney is campaigning for republican senate candidate joni ernst. ernst squared off with her democratic opponent, congressman bruce braley, in a critical debate last night. the latest real clear politics average has her up by less than a point. meaning that this race could essentially still go either way. leland vittert has more tonight for us from washington. leland? >> reporter: heather, with so many senate races and for that matter control of the senate seemingly up for grabs, both sides are spending money like there is no tomorrow. not only on saturating local television with attack ads but also trying to help build a ground game.

in iowa the millions spent on the race to replace tom harkin became a hot topic in last night's heated debate, with candidates trying to answer not only their opponents' attacks but also those levied by the outside money ads. >> to give you a chance to refute some of these ads being -- the super pac ads particularly. these are coming, millions of dollars in money coming from forces outside of iowa. we understand those of which you have no control over at all. so what's the answer? >> the answer is i never met michael bloomberg. i have no idea what these ads are based upon. >> the latest numbers show democratic groups are spending more as they try to hold on to key senate seats, many including places like colorado and michigan that were once thought safe. south dakota also remains a tossup. >> i think at the end of the day it ends up in the republican column by it's a sign of the desperation of the democrats that they're plunging $2.5 million into south dakota here in the next 3 1/2 weeks. >> reports indicate that during this year's general election cycle a majority of the

advertising dollars spent by outside groups come from organizations that are required to say little or nothing about where their money comes from. with a very valuable prize up for grabbed on november 4th, the content of the advertising is as controversial as those who pay for it. heather? >> leland vittert. 23 days and counting. fire destroying more than 100 homes and authorities say it was not started by accident. details on who is now in custody. plus, a nightmare scenario at sea. the near-death experience caught on video.

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welcome back to the "fox report." a 17-year-old girl is dead, nearly two dozen other people are injured after this. it was an accident at a farm in maine that saw a

halloween-themed hayride go terribly wrong. >> it's in the middle of the woods. and it's a trail. so it's not easy going. the vehicle was traveling in this direction coming out of the ride, going downhill around a sharp curve. and and he missed the curve and went into the wood line. and it looks like the trailer jackknifed and hit a tree. >> authorities say a number of riders suffered broken bones and head injuries. they suspect a mechanical problem may have contributed to that crash. and now to another tragedy at a halloween-themed event when a performer is run over and killed. our top story as we go across america. idaho. police say a bus hit and killed a man working for a halloween zombie attraction. they say as part of the event he emerged from his hiding spot and he ran toward the bus.

but he tripped, and the bus did not stop, running him over with its back wheels. at first people on board the bus didn't know that he'd been hit, thinking that it was all part of the show. the company behind the event canceling the rest of the weekend. florida. intense moments caught on video as a boat with six people on board begins sinking. they were about four miles off the coast of miami when the boat flipped over. thankfully, another boater saw the victims waving their arms in the water. that good samaritan says that he was the fourth boat to go by but the only one to stop. he says he's just happy everyone is safe. pennsylvania. what reportedly started as a very large frat party quickly spilled out of control. it happened just off campus at california university of pennsylvania near pittsburgh. reports of hundreds of people spilling into the streets, all for what was supposed to be a homecoming celebration. no word on any arrests. and to oregon. a police sergeant pleads no contest to one count of theft.

he was accused of stealing a $1.49 bag of popcorn from a convenience store. the incident captured on store surveillance video. apparently, he has done this a number of times. the sergeant has been suspended without pay and put on probation. he was also forced to pay a small fine. and that is your wrap on this fox trip across america. authorities in northern california charging a man with arson after a massive wildfire that threatened to leave an entire community in ashes. police identifying the suspect as 24-year-old ronald beau marshall. he's accused of starting the so-called boles fire. it broke out last month near the town of weed, close to the oregon border. the flames burning around 150 homes to the ground, in fact, and also damaging a saw mill, one of the largest employers in that area. rumors intensifying around the status of north korean leader kim jong un. he was a no-show this week at a

major state anniversary celebration and hasn't been seen in public since september 3rd. will carr has that story from our west coast newsroom and he joins us with more. hi, will. >> reporter: good evening, heather. since the world has not seen kim jong un since september, it sparked global speculation about where he is and exactly what he's doing right now. keep in mind that this is the most secretive, most shut-off country in the world. so the dictator, it's very hard to get any information about exactly what he's doing. now, he was last seen at a concert in september with his wife where he was seen walking with a limp. kim jong un missed a ceremony on friday to pay tribute to his late father and grandfather. that might not sound like much, but it's an important national anniversary for north korea, one that kim jong un normally attends. since then experts have wondered if he broke an ankle, has gout, has some other health issue, or if there's been a coup. >> i don't think it's just health. they talk about gout. now, gout is very painful, but

it isn't going to prevent kim jong un from showing up at these very important anniversaries. i think that he's lost substantial power recently and that's a much better explanation for what we know. >> we have not seen any indications of a transfer of power at this point in north korea that we view as definitive, but we'll continue to watch it carefully. >> reporter: officials in south korea agree with united states officials that right now they say there's no evidence of a coup. now, keep in mind that kim jong un is in bad health generally. he eats a lot. he drinks a lot. and he rarely ever exercises. and experts say if he's not able to run the country right now they believe that possibly his sister, kim yo jong, may be running things until he's capable. heather. >> all right. will carr live for us. thank you. well, let's do a fox fast forward. how about it? monday it is columbus day. federal offices are closed. and that includes the post office.

most banks are also closed. but the new york stock exchange is open for business. also monday, a south african court begins sentencing olympic bladerunner oscar pistorius a month after he was convicted of culpable homicide in the killing of his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp. the process expected to involve several days of testimony. pistorius could face up to 15 years in prison. and tuesday the chairman of the joint chiefs, general martin dempsey, will host a meeting of more than 20 foreign defense officials on the international effort to defeat isis. they are expected to discuss new efforts to train so-called moderate syrian rebels. president obama will also be in attendance. authorities in texas scrambling to find out who came into contact with a health care worker who is now the second confirmed victim of the ebola virus at a dallas hospital. we'll have a live update up next. and the nation's top generals saying some boots on the ground against isis would help the mission. but a top white house official

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i'm heather childers in for harris faulkner, and this is "the fox report." it's the bottom of the hour. if you're just joining us, the cdc confirms a dallas nurse has contracted ebola from the liberian patient who died last week. hazmat teams now decontaminating her apartment. the nurse says that she wore protective clothing while treating the patient. but health officials say that there was a "clear breach of protocol somewhere along the line." bryan llenas is live from our new york newsroom with more. bryan? >> heather, the dallas nurse remains in stable condition and in isolation. she had extensive contact with duncan on multiple occasions during his second visit to the hospital while wearing her full protective suit, a gown, gloves, mask, and shield, and yet she was still infected with ebola. so now the cdc is sending additional staff to texas health

presbyterian hospital to investigate how a "clear breach in safety protocol" took place. they're particularly concerned about how workers are handling their personal protective equipment after dealing with an ebola patient. it's a high-risk task that if done carelessly can easily lead to contamination. now, the cdc warns it's possible we will see additional cases of ebola in the coming days. officials are looking into whether desperate risky procedures done to try to save duncan's life, kidney dialysis and respiratory intubation, exposed other health care workers to the virus. meantime, a boston-area clinic was briefly closed after a man who recently visited liberia complained of headaches and muscle aches this afternoon. the man was put into an ambulance and is now isolated at beth israel deaconist medical center where a specialized team is assessing him. we are also getting word that hazmat crews are at l.a.x. responding to someone who reportedly has flu-like symptoms

on board united airlines flight 703. officials say this is out of an abundance of caution. heather? >> bryan llenas live for us. thank you. turning now to the fight for the syrian city of kobani. increased u.s.-led coalition air strikes helping kurdish rebels as they struggle to keep a foothold in the critical city. which sits directly on the border with turkey. but turkish leaders say they're outgunned and supplies are running short. and isis is in iraq as well. more homicide bombings in iraq's capital leaving at least 26 people dead and more attacks in the country's anbar province just west of the capital. meanwhile, there appears to be growing debate in washington over whether u.s. ground forces will be necessary, and the dueling opinions are from people who will be directly involved in that decision. peter doocy is in washington for us tonight. so peter, what would it take for the president to send american troops into iraq or syria? >> heather, it's going to take a

battle that the pentagon doesn't think can be won with air strikes. >> would we be more effective against isis if we had u.s. troops on the ground spotting targets, if we had those ground -- >> there will be circumstances when the answer to that question will likely be yes. but i haven't encountered one right now. >> what kind of point -- >> i've actually used the example of mosul will likely be the decisive battle in the ground campaign at some point in the future. >> reporter: general dempsey also revealed today that recently isis militants got within about 15 miles of the critical baghdad airport and the pentagon was worried they would overpower an iraqi unit that was standing as the last line of defense on a key road. so the u.s. sent in apache helicopters, and the airport remains at this hour in friendly hands. heather. >> so peter, how is the white house responding to speculation about the ground troops?

>> heather, they're saying that any ground troops that may be needed for the fight against isis are going to be from iraq. >> let's be clear here. the president has been very plain, that this is not a campaign that requires or even would benefit from american ground troops in combat again. the iraqi prime minister, the government of iraq have said very plainly they don't want american troops in combat. >> reporter: the pentagon has been putting pressure on turkey to do more to help inside syria, right next door. today secretary of defense chuck hagel called his turkish counterpart because to this point turkey's military has not been fighting to keep nearby kobani from falling to isis militants. but today we are learning turkey is going to finally open up some military bases there for the coalition to use. heather? >> peter doocy joining us live. thank you. so you just heard two opposing opinions from two top leaders in washington over the possibility of using u.s. ground forces.

one of the country's top generals saying they may be needed if the mission calls for it and the other from a national security adviser saying what president obama has said before, that no u.s. boots will be on the ground. so let's bring our political insiders in. in charleston, south carolina tonight pat caddell, a former pollster for president jimmy carter and a fox news contributor. john leboutillier, former republican congressman for new york. and doug schoen, former pollster for president bill clinton and a fox news contributor. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. >> so the pentagon's top general says that troops could possibly be more effective in some -- on the ground in some situations, and then you have the national security adviser saying that's not going to happen, saying the opposite. so doug, i'll start with you. who is this administration listening to and what should we take from that? >> well, heather, that's a very good question. the simple answer is we don't know who they're listening to or what decisions they're going to make or what strategy they're

employing. before the election i think we know no ground troops. because politically it would be unpopular they believe in the short term. the larger answer to your second question is there is a sense of fear in america. fear over isis. fear over the middle east. fear over russia and ukraine. also fear over ebola coming to new york, coming to los angeles. obviously with somebody infected in dallas huge, huge concerns. an economy that's stagnated. a stock market that has sunk precipitously and is showing more volatility. heather, fear is the watch word of the day. the word that we need to focus on. >> so how will americans, voters respond to that fear, and how will the administration counter it? >> logic says, and i agree with doug, and i think pat agrees, too, that there is fear in the air over all these things and a feeling of disgust over the u.s. government's response to all these problems.

so logic says they're going to throw out people on the ballot who are part of the majority party, the democratic party, and i think we think the odds are republicans should recapture the senate. not definite but they should. and this is all filtering in. bad economy, fear, ebola, all of it. the two things you open up with. ebola and isis. the administration response is very similar. too little too late. the american people want to be much stronger about both of them. >> right. >> the pentagon, you asked, they're pushing, pulling, trying to get the white house to get going on this thing. and they're being pushed away by obama and susan rice. >> pat, i'm going to have you respond. i'm going to bring you in here and have you respond to this in just a moment. but first i want to bring up some sound we got from senator john mccain. he actually talks about isis and the concern if we're not doing more now that they will be here in the u.s. >> we can't afford to let this

continue. and the stronger isis gets, the greater the threat to the united states of america. that's what we have to understand. and that's why tough decisions have to be made. and not gradually. we have to completely revamp our strategy, which clearly is not succeeding. >> he went on to talk about pinpricking air strikes. pat, what is your response to that? and is this another example of the president leading from behind? >> yes. well, leading from behind or trying to do the minimum necessary to get through the election. i'm not sure how committed the president is to this strategy come after november 4th. but i'll tell you what. when you see the fact that we're flying so few missions that are actually hitting anything. when isis -- when the voters see that isis is spreading up through the kurdish areas and if there were any journalists there we would have pictures of massacres and what they're doing

to christians and to muslims who will not follow their line. >> crucifixions and beheadings. >> meanwhile, you have susan rice saying no troops on the ground at all. this president is -- this stuff isn't working. and it makes people nervous. there was a story of apparently judicial watch, which has done pretty well at getting documents, is claiming that four people were arrested a week ago, over the last week, at the texas border who were isis members. and what we didn't get is a firm denial of that. >> we had those allegations right before 9/11, remember. >>'ll fact is that we expect they will try to come in. and then you have -- ebola people are overexcited about but not too much because again it goes to what doug and john were talking about. a sense that the government is not in control, who trust them to do anything. and this is the time when the american people have such negative feelings about both parties and about a political

leadership and a political establishment that has failed them entirely. >> and a sense that the government is not releasing all of the information that it has on both ebola and the situation in isis. and i'm wondering, with the midterm elections, is that part of the strategy? is that what's going on here? they're going to wait until after on both counts? >> politically, heather, i think pat and john are right. this is an administration trying to get through the election. one thing that i think they are missing that is of profound importance is leadership. yes, you can look at the polls and say people don't want ground troops, so we're not going to send ground troops. or look at the polls and say people are getting scared about ebola, so let's minimize the fear and minimize the information. but what people ultimately want in politics is a strong chief executive. a president who says we'll do anything we need to do to keep our country safe and to keep the world safe. that's what people want. that's what they're not getting from president obama.

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and new polling suggests control of the senate could come down to which party has the best voter turnout. and according to the "wall street journal," take a look, and nbc news, 48% want democrats to control congress. 43% want a gop-led congress. but this poll shows republican supporters are more interested in this year's midterm than democratic supporters. the fox news political insiders are back. pat caddell, john leboutillier, and doug schoen. so doug, i'm going to start with you. i'm sorry, doug. >> i'm doug. he's john. >> yes. in terms of getting the voters out to the polls, which party does tend to do better? traditionally. >> in a midterm it's traditionally the republicans. this year those basic trends are heightened by the fact the republican voter base is more mobilized to vote against president obama than the democratic base is to come out to support the party.

so even though in the journal poll there was a five-point advantage for the democrats, i think when that plays itself out with the voter enthusiasm gap and the turnout gap ultimately the parties are very tightly deadlocked nationally with a slight advantage to the republicans in the swing states. >> i call it the passion differential. who's more angry or happy going into an election? this year the republicans are very unhappy, very ticked off at the status quo. democrats, i think they're passive about it. they're not in love anymore with obama. so they're going to probably stay home a little bit more. so that helps the republicans. the passion differential should help us win a net gain of six seats and take over the senate. >> and that's what they need to do. pat, what do you think? what are your thoughts? >> well, my thoughts are i'm shocked at the five-point gap that was one point for republicans among registered voters, these are just registers voters. in the last "wall street journal" poll. and i haven't seen the internals

on this. these polls are getting a little wacky at this time of year. but we have seen movement -- you know, everything that john and doug said is correct. there are -- you know, i can teach this or preach this any way you want. there are trends showing like in iowa where the republican candidate, joni ernst, was six points ahead in the gold-plated iowa des moines register poll and now is one point ahead, this is over two weeks. there are flows going on back and forth, and partly it goes to the disenchantment of voters. the low turnout i do think will help the republicans at some level. the democrats have a much better ground game in many of these places based on what they did with obama in '12. >> let's get into some of the specific races we're talking about in iowa. talking about iowa. >> well, iowa is an open senate seat. traditionally a democratic seat. the republican is still ahead, joni ernst, by one point in the latest poll. everybody's going in there.

mrs. obama was there on friday. couldn't get bruce braley's name correct but she was there campaigning. and bill clinton's going in, hillary's going in. also romney's going in because it's 2016 -- >> and he's actually there tonight -- or today. and we have some video of that as well. he was there actually campaigning for bruce braley. i'm sorry, campaigning for joni ernst. >> this is a bonus for the republicans. they originally didn't count this one as one they had to win. they had six other ones of embattled democrats. alaska, arkansas, louisiana, north carolina, west virginia, and south dakota. that they could win quite easily. they thought. but the field has changed. there are other seats opening up. >> colorado as well. >> right. here's the thing on the big picture with these two expert pollsters, doug and pat. have you ever seen a time when almost every incumbent, both republican and democrat, is so low? they're all under 50. >> let me try to offer a little

perspective quickly. first, it reflects the anger and alienation of the electorate. second, it reflects the disinterest. and polls jump around when people really don't care that much, which is what we're seeing here. hence you can get polls from plus 6 to plus 1 because voters are just really saying a plague on both your houses and a movement in some states to independence. >> pat. >> that's why i want to pick that point up because i think it's very interesting. john's right. we've never seen so many incumbents with such low poll numbers. most of them unfortunately the democrats are there, but we've seen it with republicans. pat roberts in kansas, which is a race we should talk about. you know, other -- >> mitch mcconnell. >> mitch mcconnell's numbers are terrible in kentucky, although that woman he's running against, miss grimes, wants to blow her political brains out this week. >> refused to admit she voted for president obama. >> when you got the msnbc crew saying that disqualified her for office, that's pretty bad.

but you know what? we've got some other things. i don't know what the president's doing. what the republicans have not done, and we should probably stay with these races, is they have not nationalized this election. and that is part of the problem. these races are running with millions of dollars on individual attacks and not on what i think doug and i and john would agree are the big referendum kind of issues that the voters would probably turn the democrats out on. >> all right. we're going to continue to talk about this. right now we're going to go to a break, though. mitt romney campaigning in iowa for republican senator joni ernst. we told you about that. locked in a tight race with her democratic challenger. and new polling shows voters there saying if today, 2012 their ballots might look a little bit different. the fox news political insiders coming back.

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>> political insiders are back. thank you for sticking around. >> absolutely. >> john, i want to start with you this time. we were talking about the situation that's going on in kansas. we have greg orman independent up against pat roberts. >> he is in a lot of trouble roberts. he's in like the low 40's. pat really is in that race heavily. keep in mind what pat and doug said before the break there's in anti income ben see feeling along wp the fear and the angst. >> anti both parties. >> even though the democratic senators are in trouble there are three or four republicans if they lose it is conceivable mitch mcconnell could lose, pat roberts could lose. the open seat in georgia which is the republican seat.

if the republican incumbents lose those seats maybe the democrats hold on to those seats. >> it comes back to people noting with satisfied with the work they are doing. >> for the democrats they don't have a candidate they have an independent who is the most intriguing, right, pat, candidate running this year. >> look, i listened to the press, the washington world including -- he was with the democrats. what does he know? he never talked to the man. i want to answer a lot of fox viewers last week call him a liberal democrat. he is representing a new world view politics is failing the country and the people beat one down pride all of the others. it is interesting to me. i like to say people i knew all of the time are saying they are the ones telling you these

politicians play anything they like to. what they don't understand is there is a new force coming in politics and i think he's going to win that seat and i think actually it represents a new break through. i don't know it does things. >> there's a paper in the editorial. >> it speaks to the things pat and john were speaking of, his independence. >> it is clear to both parties he is not going to commit before the election who he will caucus with and democrats have been some what reluctant to offer support. >> he claimed he will be in lock step with democrats. >> he specifically said i will not vote for harry reid. >> he voted for obama in 08 and for romney in 12. >> the former governor -- >> mike brown is the republican.

>> it is the anti establishment view that pat was so articulately speaking to. the american people have had it. a congress that is failing and a political system that is not printing real choices. >> let me show you how corrupt this is. the chairman of the rnc blasted o orman this week. if orman wins this election the republicans will be all over him november 5th begging him. >> especially with a 50/50 tie. >> if they need him suddenly he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. >> when you are talking about incumbents and trying to over come and win since modern times basically in terms of elections there has only been one senator that has run when it comes down the mid terms and in the 40 percent area in these polls.

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