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>> the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. >> it seems however the only thing is the amount it takes to catch it. the dallas hospital a major metropolitan health center sends a man home who tells them he is from west africa all of the while presenting symptoms consistent with ebola. the hospital then sends him home while contagious to live in his familiar lace apartment which family refuses to follow the health department quarantine by sending their children off to school. today a healthcare worker not even one of those prioritized, but cdc is at risk who had all of the benefits of the protective gear con twrakted the

virus. reminiscent of the doctor and nurse who also con tracteded the virus in west africa they, too, used all of the precautions in suiting up. noticeably absent in the press conference ance announcing the new case of ebola was the cdc. they opined there was a preabre in protocol and the handling of such cases will be forthcoming. now you are going to make changes in a protocol that obviously wasn't working that you said was working that you said we were not supposed to worry about. i have to worry where the hospital gets the changes understands the changes and implements the changes. i am not even convinced the hospitals have the protective gear to have the ebola waste whether it is doctors, the nurses or the maintenance people. they can tell you not to worry, they can tell you it's not going to happen, but don't worry be

happy line doesn't work any more. start worrying. we have a problem. a potential crisis. so far it has been screwed up twice. we have an issue. can you really rely on our healthcare system? can you rely on the cdc to tell you the whole truth? if you haven't been worried, i think it's time. tonight we are going to hear from doctors who have differing opinions as to how easy it would be to contract the virus. is your family at risk is one hospital better prepared than another? can pets contract it? can you contract it from your pets? if you take one thing from this show tonight it is that you need to take charge of your family's healthcare. not assume for one minute somebody, anybody has you covered. that is my open. joining me now is reporter james roads. what is the latest on the new

ebola patient? >> i can tell you they are referring to the patient as patient number one. thomas duncan was patient 0 the man who had ebola. we know she was a nurse in close contact with duncan while he was in isolation here. we don't know anything more about her condition except that friday evening she had a flight fever and was exhibiting ebola like symptoms so she came immediately to the hospital. we are told immediately taking her temperature she was here in isolation. you mentioned earlier these folks are not at risk. everyone at risk associated with this disease. they were allowed to self monitor themselves because they are healthcare professionals.

they were not a part of the larger cdc group monitored by the cdc. she is here and we do not know her condition except all they will say is she is stable. at last word we heard she had mild ebola like symptoms. >> the cdc today confirmed, the cdc this afternoon confirmed she didn't have it. the headlines the people of dallas were quote sad and angry. the population in general. are they worried? >> people are concerned and they are watching out, but as they said all along if you were in direct contact with duncan you are probably okay. they even made the point where you might have seen judge jenkins the man heading up the

dallas county side of the operation he drove with louise duncan's fiancee he rode in the car 45 minutes with him he went into the apartment that was still being decontaminated. he did that to send a message saying the only way you can contract this is if you get some kind of body fluid on you. they are pretty much sticking to that. they want to see what the breech in protocol was. they are taking a closer look at everything from the time before you go to the isolation chamber when you strip off that gear how is that -- what are you doing with that gear? >> james, thank you so much. >> with me fox news medical a team members dr. mark seigel and dr. samati. whiff tom fre-- we have tom fren

announces he has a five part plan to prevent what happens in dollas from ever happening again. i want you gentlemen to think about this. we have the dallas hospital sends a guy with symptoms from west africa home. then we have a healthcare nurse who is suited up wearing all of the protective gear. she ends up contracting the virus and now they have a new five point plan that they are going to implement here's my3ke question to you, are we stumbling our way through this? >> you tell me. judge listen, fear comes from a lack of recent leadership. we have a situation where people are not being transparent enough with us not being responsive enough and not being responsible enough. talking about centers of disease control now. i know the centers of disease control well. i think there is a problem with them taking over the situation. doesn't matter when you are out

there with errors. errors make people afraid. >> they don't make people afraid some people die. >> they make people have a lack of belief that somebody can protect you. it is totally different. i am making a serious point. if you can't trust somebody to protect you you think you could be next. it doesn't mean you are going to be next. >> what i care about, doctor, is whether or not the cdc knows what's going on. >> i have talked to them they need to be more transparent out it. >> what are you saying? >> you said they need to be more transparent. >> i would like them to come out with the name of the person. >> i don't care about that. >> i want her name out there so we can know hwho to contact. >> you are moving to the next group of people.

is the cdc ding open with us and truthful? >> we don't want people to panic but we have to use this case of mr. duncan as a case report. from the beginning that he decided to come to the u.s. he went through the screening. the question is, were you exposed to ebola the answer was no. right there there was a problem. went to the screening. >> he lied to get here. >> he still showed up at the hospital with all of the symptoms. >> we are going to get to that. the first five days there were no fevers. went through all three screenings. the system is not ready to take care of these connotations. >> why did he go? >> he had a fever 5, 6 days after. he comes to the emergency room and we are not completely

prepared the travel history wasn't a part of it. >> he told them he was from west africa. >> i want to keep going over this. i think the hospital totally screws this up. he has abdominal pain he comes from liberia you send him home with an antibiotic? >> this is a major hospital in dallas not a small town. >> you know what i want to tell you my friend. >> this is exactly what -- >> let me tell you something. >> this morning, here's today's lesson. here's today's lesson. >> yes, doctor. >> america patches ebola taking care of a patient who has ebola in a dallas hospital with the centers for disease control

overseeing the situation when they already know and we already know that if they are very actively involved. they know how. >> they don't want them involved. >> i don't want them involved. tom freiden says, you can't get this if you are sitting next to someone on a bus. >> she was a healthcare worker. >> i am talking about the cdc. >> one thing that came up i asked mark this morning. >> we are going to continue this conversation with more on tonight's breaking news on ebola. >> hearing of a texas nurse infected with ebola, are you worried now? facebook or tweet me at judge jeanine. me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy.

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>> ebola is not spread in the air like the flu. you cannot get it from casual contact like sitting next to intun on a bus. >> the president doesn't seem so concerned but according to what i read a human can be infected if they come back with bodily fluids or contaminated objects from infect the persons. we are back with the medical a team dr. mike seigel and dr dr. samadi.

also dr. bob arnot. i want to finish another thing with these two doctors. can you contract the virus if you are sitting on a bus next to someone who has it? >> the likelihood is low. >> the question is can you? >> if there's a cut, if you touch your ears or nose it can. >> if someone sneezes on my hand and then who has the virus and i rub my eyes i got it? >> you can. that's one of the reasons why i asked this morning on sunday house call, why this camera crew from nbc, how did they get this infection? the nurses in spain brought her glove that was contaminated to her eye and got it. now we have the preach of the protocol saying she took out the gown and got contaminated. >> i agree with you. do you not agree with that?

>> i want to the sicker someone is with ebola the more virus they have with secretions the easier it is to contact whether you are getting blood, vomit or diarrhea. somebody sitting on a bus, the problem with that is, i will never say never, here, judge. the problem somebody sick enough to have virus in their sweat or tears or saliva is not going to be healthy enough to sit on the bus. it is very low. >> doctors across the country are sitting exactly where you two are. it is easier to get or difficult to get. doctor bob arnott i am going to go to you. you have been in countries where this is a problem. you are in infectious disease. is the cdc even capable of

identifying and delineating what needs to be done given everything that we have seen over the last two weeks? >> no. the interesting thing, your honor, is this, they are not in charge of that. they don't have any authority to go in to the infected hospital. they are excellent i have been around the world with them. dr. seigel is saying you are not going to get it from someone talking next to you unless they have a ton of virus. i had a patient cough on them dead within the week the other touched a patient's skin dead within the week. the big problem here is this. public health authorities are trying to reassure us. this is hard to get. that is it is going to be caregivers and family members and those preparing bodies for burial who are going to be exposed to the virus. if you are not exposed it is not going to spread rampantly. if you are close a lot of vomit

and blood and feces. there's a ton of virus and you don't have to get much. the appalling thing, judge, is this poor nurse being blamed for breaking protocol which she contact tracted the virus at the hospital 80 percent of nurses have not been trained in this country with interactive protocol. this poor nurse should have been obamaed someone should have made sure she was doing the right technique. here's the bottom line. there is nobody in charge. there's no one in charge in west africa where 18 percent of patientses are being treated in liberia. 40 percent are sierra leone. we need somebody in charge. in the united states. maybe the president. maybe homeland security. you can't take diseased and say you are in charge. somebody has to be charged with stamping the virus out in west africa and somebody needs to be in charge of protecting us in the united states. no ebb is in charge.

>> doctor arnot this is an issue that is endemic in africa and is becoming ain't national issue. isn't this something where the international community should have a coalition on how to deal with this? >> look, judge, coalitions you believe this work? the world health organization was mamazing. it answer ee if is rated. the budgets have been slashed. they may not be capable. the united states is the only part to go in there and really make a difference. >> i completely agree with this comment about the nurse we should care about her. but her caring and her fear for this patient with ebola may have been what caused her not to take the proper precautions. >> what do you mean because she was afraid? >> you are afraid and you are worried and you are panicked. >> she was wearing everything. >> whoa, whoa.

let me finish. >> howho was in charge. >> a i think i can understand how she got exposed to the virus. dr. arnot made a great point for the federal government to take it over, it may not be the cdc we need the feds to take it over. >> every time the feds take it over it gets messed up. dr. samadi. >> there's no one running the show. even though i am a great surgeon i am not an expert. you have a virus that has no vook seen. you have 70 percent that are dying from it. the guy just said there's nobody in charge. close down the nonessential flights until we figure it out. >> you misinterpreted. >> no, i did not misinterpret. >> you have to stamp out the epidemic. >> you still have all of it. >> we don't have it. >> we have two patients in the united states that got it.

>> we are just getting started, doctor. that's not the problem. dr. arnot what did you say? >> the vaccination is 6 months away. >> the centers of disease control is saying this epidemic is about to spin wildly out of control with over a million cases it may be the epidemic doesn't go away. it may be in west africa admittedly you now have the new aids. you can't stamp this out. >> that's the last thing we have to say about it. the chambers are what we say, these hemorrhagic fevers are the most worrisome thing worldwide in terms of public health. >> needs to be stamped out in west africa and we need to be in charge. >> i will say mr. president -- >> got to go. doctor samadi, dr. seigel and dr. arnot. stop. coming up.

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>> in the united states we were told how hafz it was to get it. we realize this is something we need to worry about and prepare for. with me dr. nina radcliffe. dr. radcliffe, thank you for being with us. whenever my kids used to start school in september they would come home with a flu and cold september, october, november then i would get it and everybody in the house would get it. what do parents do now? we have a child die in michigan, one in new jersey of enterovirus. what do parents do what do they look for and when do they take their children to the hospital.

>> children love to share germs. i am worried for my daughter a 3-year-old in preschool about enterovirus. i am not worried about her checki -- catching ebola. enterovirus is making a comeback. >> what is it? >> there are 100 varyites. this takes it in the lungs. kids can have difficult breathing and can get paralyzed. they don't know the mechanism and we don't know how to stop it. >> you say ebola is not endemic to the united states. what do you mean by that? >> these children are not exposed. >> i was reading as some of your thoughts you saying well you are not concerned about ebola. >> i am on guarded condition for it. that's not what we need to be worried about we need to be

worried about the seasonal flu and enterovirus. >> if they are having difficulty coughing, breathing, if they are having diarrhea and vomiting these are concerns for kids not just for kids with ebola but in general terms. >> when we talk about this, let's stick with ebola for a second. are you surprised that the nurse who contracted it in dallas? >> i am surprised about that. there is a protocol. when there is a protocol followed we should not be able to contract this. we have to figure out where it was. these are healthcare workers putting their lives on the line. if we have a second case which we likely will we need to make sure the doctors, nurses, staff they have to protect themselves. patients deserve to be treated. >> what's interesting is there is an organization, i think it is the -- i have the notes here national nurse's organization that says something like, 79 percent of the nurses haven't had any training in any of this

as it relates to ebola. the krscdc is going to be implementing new rules a five mount plan as a result of what happened in dallas. do you think the healthcare system is ready for this? >> we have to have all hands on deck. we need to get everybody involved. >> they say the ebola system is not only the only indicators and it's not just bodily fluids but it's the virus that can last for hours, and you take your hand for example you go to the coffee shop someone sneezes on the counter you get your hand down to get the coffee you wipe your eye or mouth or whatever, you can't catch -- can catch it. >> that is bodily fluids if you

have secretions. that's saliva. >> even though it may be dry on the counter they are saying the virus still lives. >> viruses can live outside of the body for a period of time. that's a concern. >> that's a real concern. >> do you plan to see people wearing masks on airplanes? >> with the seasonal flu they will likely be wearing that. >> i am worried about seasonal flu and things like enterovirus. those are the ones i am concerned about. >> thank you for being with us this evening. >> coming up today's new show, how well the dallas hospital handles ebola. what happens when somebody walks into the clinic with symptoms? i go inside an urgent care system to find out. that's next. with my united mileageplus explorer card. i have saved $75 in checked bag fees. priority boarding is really important to us. you can just get on the plane and relax. i love to travel,

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>> this week i visited an urgent care center to find out what precautions they have and ways to fight ebola. take a look. >> i am at the urgent care center in new york city. i am joined by dr. jake deutsch who is the clinical director and founder of this center. doctor, how are you. thanks for having us today. urgent care. we are seeing these things pop up all over the united states. what is the difference between an urgent care center and new jersey emergency room. >> i use the analogy if you have to call an ambulance go to the hospital. if you are having a heart attack or stroke you go he to the hospital. f for others come to urgent care. >> with the recent outbreak of ebola in dallas, people are going to be coming in with flu like symptoms that can be the flu or ebola. >> we are prepared. >> what protections are you

taking? >> we have signage on the outside instructing people what to be worried about what type of symptoms you would be experiencing that you might need to go directly to the hospital and/or contact the health department. >> how do you know if i am sneezing and i have a fever and stomach aches and pains you don't know whether or not -- >> we heerr on the side of precaution. >> you recommend any one coming in you give them the mask or the glove. >> if they have flu like symptoms no harm no foul. better to be safe. >> we don't have people wait in the waiting room. people are brought in right away we have private rooms that's another layer of protection if there was anything concerning people aren't exposed to other patients they are not out in the open they are contained within their private room. >> as i look around here everything is clean and pristine. you are very competent. what happened in dallas? >> iveng that it was early on the sort of radar.

>> no. why do you say early on the radar? >> we are all prepared. >> we are all prepared now. that was several weeks ago. >> let's talk about the fact that on the front line you got dallas. that's a huge hospital. a big city. there's been -- we are already sending our troops to west africa we know it's a problem. they look at the guy with all of the symptoms and send them home. >> don't listen to the obvious facts. that's a big fail. we have learned from that. that is the only thing we can do. >> should we worry about them coming in? >> we should feel 100 percent comfortable we are all thinking about it. we are thinking about it in the school nurse office and urgent care setting and thinking about it in the er setting. it is pervasive on everybody's mind. we have the protective mechanism in place in theory in order to

prevent the outbreak. >> thank you for being with us. you worked all day. >> not a problem. a lot hadz changed 24-hours. >> that's my first question to you. you said the precautions are in place. have the last 24-hours changed your mind? >> i think the precautions are in place we are talking two different things the precautions for general public and the hospital taking care of the people infect the. i think the same precautions are in place now we are going to take a look at what the hospital workers have to be worried about and their personal precautions. >> is it clear it is the doctors, the nurses, the ones who understand the disease who are wearing the protective gear and the gloves and the mask. yet this happened. >> if it gets into the population we are not in a

position to know what they know and protect ourselves. >> we are talking about somebody sick with the disease verses somebody potentially in the early stages of the protection. we know that would be a different scenario. what i can say having practiced medicine for 13 years there are mistakes that happen unfortunately. we are human. just like they have needle sticks potentially infected with hiv there are 16,000 needle sticks a year. you have to understand when you are decontaminating yourself and carefully taking off this equipment how easy it is to make one simple mistake. >> the one mistake duncan is dead, the second mistake, she is got the virus. i am supposed to go to two emergency rooms to see how they were set up to prepare themselves for the possible ebola patients coming in. you were kind enough to send

take us into your urgent care center. both hospitals canceled on me. the i believe it's the prosecutor in me. maybe they weren't ready. i am reading statistics 85 percent of the nurses surveyed reports their hospital hasn't provided patients on ebola. 85 percent haven't communicated a policy. how could this country, as advanced as it is, not have this thing covered? had>> nobody wants to get caught with their scrubs down so to speak. i think it is difficult to stick your neck on the line especially with an inflammatory topic. i think there's a lot of unknown and exposing yourself puts people in an uncomfortable situation. we are all thinking about this. every hospital has a protocol in place in order to prevent an outbreak. we are following science and we have the protection we need. >> 39 percent say the hospital doesn't plan to equipped

isolation rooms with plastic covered mattresses and discard linens after use. that is frightening stuff. >> that is frightening stuff. >> who has to take charge for there to be a requirement that hospitals follow the protocol? >> there needs to be leadership here. there needs to be concerted effort across the country so everybody is following the same standards. until we have that, there are going to be discrepancies. there's going to be mistakes. there's going to be accidents that weren't anticipated because we don't have that cohesiveness. >> that is frightening. your urgent care center in manhattan a lot of people coming in, it is accessible, it's a walk in. >> here's one piece of advice, get your flu shots. if you don't get the flu people aren't going to be worried about having flu like symptoms that will alleviate a lot of concerns with this. >> if i don't have the flu that's great for me but if somebody else has a problem it's not the flu then i have a problem.

>> at least we are eliminating the sick. if we can get the numbers down and minimize that there are a lot less people having to go to the hospitals. it will be keeping people home and healthy. that's my one piece of advice. >> all right. thank you so much for being with us. >> coming up, i speak to two experts battling ebola for decades. are your pets at risk? continuing coverage of today's news a dallas nurse testing positive. ght it'd be bigger. ♪ ♪ (dad) there's nothing i can't reach in my subaru. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru,a subaru.

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ee oo continui >> continuing our coverage the dallas nurse testing positive for ebola. colonel and chief of the veterinary division of the army's medical research institute of infectious diseases and dr. nancy jacks also a retired u.s. attorney general and pathology division. both were key in the 1989 reston ebola outbreak. thank you doctors both for being here. the two of you have done thank you both for being here. the two of you have done ground breaking work on ebola. we were told 30 years ago, 40 years ago that we were closing in on all of the infectious diseases worldwide. what is going on today? oo what we are seeing today even though we are talking about ebola it is a shout across the

belfour for infectious disease. we have to be prepared in our hospitals and in our public health infrastructure have to be bolstered so we don't have this kind of incident happen and really put us in the situation we are in. >> well, doctors, either of you, what are we doing wrong here? the one ebola patient from west africa clearly said where he was from that got messed up. now someone with protective gear has the virus. now there are others who say there will be more in the next few days or weeks. what are we doing wrong? oo nancy and i aren't in a position to critique what's going on with the ebola patient in dallas. we found ourselves in a similar situation in 19d 89. completely unexpected. nobody heard much about ebola

very much except those on the side of the infectious disease program. we went through the same whirlpool they are going through nobody knew how to respond and we weren't clear how to do it. we put together a response to do it. what they are doing down there it is important to recognize that there has to be an organized response. i think that hospitals have to be prepared for doing it. the i agree with your last guest. i think if people aren't ready for it now they are never going to be. >> we talked about the nurses, 76 percent said they hadn't even been spoken to by their hospital. >> you are also a veterinarian. the nurse in spain had a dog named excalibur and they put the dog down. can you tell us what the correlation if any is between a human and an animal and ebola?

oo the connection, there are few studies of what happens to dogs in these situations. there's been one paper published that i know of. they say dogs get infected but don't get sick. just like reston virus the system sees it but they get infected but don't get sick. >> thousands of troops we are sending to west africa is there any way to inoculate these men and women so they have a stronger resistance to ebola to help them? >> there is no current vaccine. it is approved for use in this time. one thing about the army. that's one thing that was demonstrated at reston they are very good at training and knowing who is in charge.

you don't have any questions about who the boss is and what everybody's job is. i think there are times when that is very helpfuhelpful. >> i couldn't agree with you more. we talk about drugs there are drugs and there's no vaccine now. there are drugs in the pipeline that might be available and how long will that take? >> well -- >> certainly -- >> we have been trying to develop counter measures against ebola for decades for more than decades. that is very gift difficult to do a very difficult process to go through. there are promising candidates on the horizon. hopefully with the seriousness of this outbreak some of those candidates will come to be widely available. >> all right dr. jerry and nancy jacks, thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you, judge. >> this is your last chance to vote in p tonight's insta poll.

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we asked after today's news of the texas nurse infected with ebola, are you worried now? ruby says whenever this administration says don't worry, i worry. stacy says, i have been worried since the day obama took office. lynn says, i am worried for our troops being sent into harm's way, as am i. jay says, i am a nurse and i am terrified. thomas says, as a medical professional masks catch it what chance does the rest of us have. the media is just like the government. you are giving us false news. what's false? that's it for us tonight. and we are, you don't ever have to miss "justice." just set your dvr and tell your friends to do the same. friend me on facebook and follow me on twitter @judge jeanine.

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