stops right here we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, 24 hours after the head of the cdc came on this broadcast to tell us that the cdc has been "clear and correct on its handling of the ebola situation in the u.s." the administration is now doing major damage control after a new patient contracts ebola and potentially exposes hundreds more to the illness. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. tonight, president obama is at the white house after making the unusual decision to cancel his political plans in order to deal with this growing ebola threat. remember, it was roughly six weeks ago when he first addressed this issue. >> the chances of an ebola

outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. >> two weeks later an infected patient got on a plane from liberia, flew to the states and wound up in a texas hospital where now two of the health care workers who treated him are also infected with ebola. one of whom we just learned today flew to cleveland and back after her exposure. and that texas hospital and the cdc are now warning more cases may be coming. tonight, the president sounded a different sounding message. >> if we do these protocols properly, if we follow the steps, if we get the information out, then the likelihood of widespread ebola outbreaks in this country are very, very low. >> what happened to the chances of an ebola outbreak are extremely low? now it's if we follow the protocols properly, if we get the information out, then the likelihood of a widespread outbreak is -- well, not

extremely low, low. last night the head of the centers for disease control came on this broadcast to promise that they were on the job. with the cdc, it's heart in the right place but information misplaced. and wrong. a few times now -- >> no, let me correct you on that. our information is clear and correct. but we do look at what's happened and we adjust as we need to. we know how ebola spreads. we know how to stop it. >> the questions arose today about whether dr. frieden was being completely transparent. first, he said all the folks exposed to the original ed bo la patient were being monitored. and none had a fever. >> we surged our response so we've tracked every one of those 48 patients in conjunction with the folks in texas, those contacts of the initial patient, every day they've been tracked. none of them have a fever. >> but dr. frieden left out the fact that 76 other people who had initial contact with the patient were left to "self-monitor."

and one of those people, a nurse, not only had a fever but had been admitted to that same texas hospital yesterday morning. now through a spokesman tonight he told us he didn't know about her fever until overnight last night after his appearance on "the kelly file." why not? and how could that be possible if as just broke this evening before we came to air the cdc told this nurse on monday that she could fly despite a fever. his underlings knew and either they didn't tell him or he didn't tell us last night. then we challenged whether the cdc's protocols were adequate. you go to an infected ebola patient's room without covering your head, with only wearing one pair of gloves and with your feet exposed, you would do that? >> absolutely. more is not always better. better is better. >> more is not always better. well, today we got a picture of

dr. frieden visiting an ebola ward in liberia. that's him front and center. he is covered head-to-toe and is double gloved. clearly in this case more is better. he said when you follow the procedures that were in place in liberia. we have fox team coverage with dr. manny alvarez, ed henry, and katy romer with the group national nurses united. they've written directly to the white house on this. we start with trace gallagher and the frightening details on this latest case. trace. >> the second nurse with ebola, 26-year-old amber vincent, has a more advanced case of the disease which is why she was flown to emory hospital in atlanta where three other ebola patients have also been treated. and the cdc is defending accusations of being caught off guard yet again. they first told the country ebola would not be a huge risk. when thomas duncan died of e be la, the cdc said they knew how to stop it and then it spread.

dr. thomas frieden told "the kelly file" this. >> we're making sure we stop the chains of transmission. >> fran of transmission, but at the time he was no doubt aware of the biggest possible chain of transmission, yet amber vincent who just hours before diagnosed with ebola flew from cleveland to dallas on frontier airlines with 132 people. she called the cdc a number of times and said that her temperature was 99.5, but because she didn't have symptoms and because her temperature was not at the danger threshold of 100.5, she was allowed to fly. here's the cdc director today. >> by both of those criteria she should not have been on that plane. i don't think that changes the level of risk of people around her. >> yet they are now in the process of trying to contact all of the people on board that flight to interview them.

keep in mind amber vincent and 77 other dallas health care workers we're told to self-monitor for ebola because they cared for thomas duncan in a time in his illness when he was releasing numerous bodily fluids. and those health care workers did not have the proper protective clothing. the cdc has not denied that charge. megyn. >> trace, thank you. as trace just reported amber vincent reportedly called the cdc before boarding the plane from ohio back to texas on monday and was told it was okay to fly. dr. manny alva vez is fox news senior managing editor for health news and joins me now. the cdc told her it was okay because their standard was you cannot fly if your fever is 100, 100.4 or higher, she was 99.5. dr. frieden is saying today basically the cdc should not have told her she could fly given she'd been exposed.

and yet he's still saying when he came on here last night and talked about how there'd been no fever, he didn't know about amber until overnight. his underlings are not funneling the information up or something else is going on. >> this is not transparent. saw the case with the nurse and your case last night with the cdc director, i was very confused. how could you be going on television at 9:00 and then a few hours later the nurse is in a hospital? he had to know. if he didn't know, he was negligent. i've been calling for his resignation i think since last week. i think that whoever was involved in managing these patients and telling this nurse to go ahead and get on a plane should be fired. this is not the standard -- >> but those are the cdc's guidelines and he says today knowing she was exposed to ebola that shouldn't have been allowed. >> say we're going to send teams and we're going to have a better hands on. we know this virus. and if we do these things, you're not going to get it. well, we know that for a long, long time.

ebola has been around since 1976. you saw the cdc director get off the plane and put a whole bunch of protective covering to go because he knows how infectious ebola is. >> he says the reason he was so covered in liberia and yet told us last night you didn't need to cover your head and didn't need to double glove and didn't need to cover your shoes is because those are the protocols being used in west africa. they do not mirror the ones used here and the ones here are perfectly adequate. >> because there they have ebola. we never had ebola here. so our protocols are very basic. we have blamed -- first we blamed the nurse for breaking protocol. that kind of was confusing to me. >> he dialed that back. >> now we're blaming the hospital. well, the hospital was really not well prepared for it. despite the fact that everybody in the administration including himself said don't worry all hospitals were prepared. and i've been saying for a long time all hospitals are not created equal. >> last night on the program he was talk about how individual

hospitals should be able to treat this disease. and then today they fly this new victim of the virus to emory. which is what i've been asking him why don't we send the ones who get it to emory to places that are prepare snd. >> that is correct. because there are maybe two or three hospitals that have the infrastructure, the know how to deal with this kind of infectious -- >> since this is not just a medical nightmare but a pr nightmare for the administration, they released a statement from someone being treated for the diagnosis saying i want to maintain my anonymity right now but i want you to know i am doing better. so just because you get ebola doesn't mean you necessarily die. trying to make people feel better about that. so if these nurses just contracted it thanks to this are they going mismanaged, if to be okay? >> well, you know, there's some side effects from surviving ebola. that's another story. you know, when you look at the data of people -- the mortality rate for ebola's about 70%, all

right? so if you survive -- >> better in a country like ours. but still up to 50%. 50/50 shot of dying. >> of dying. but if you die, that's one thing. but if you survive it, there are long-term consequences that can develop. you have chronic arthritis can develop, autoimmune problems, eye diseases. if you have had a lot of high fevers for a long, long time for a young woman you could have fertility issues. so it's not so much that, yeah, i went through ebola, i survived, i get a t-shirt and move on. >> but let me press you on dr. frieden. obviously he's come under fire. this is a virus. it travels. they're doing the best they can. do you think there's anybody we can put in there that says we've got it perfectly handled. doesn't matter who lies to the airport authorities. i will make sure not a single case gets into the united states or spreads. >> look, there's a lot of good scientists out there and private industry even in our defense department. this has -- right now we are dealing with the cdc problem

that requires almost a military approach. a military hands-on approach. if this virus ends up in south america or central america, what do you think is going to happen? we're going to have chaos on our hands. you're going to have people going through the borders being afraid, and i don't blame them, they don't have the infrastructures either in south america or in central america. >> that's clearly what happened with patient zero who got in liberia, had been handling a dying patient who had ebola repeatedly and then lied to the authorities about whether he had it because he probably wanted to get care here and even we could not save him. >> i looked at a press conference from august 4th, the president of the united states was getting ready to welcome all the leaders from africa. there was a question about ebola and they asked the president are you worried about ebola and he said, well, i'm not worried but we're going to have detailed analysis of people over there and when they get here we're going to check them here, back on august 4th. >> that's what we've seen the piecemeal in his representations

fall apart. no one seems to be coming out forthright and saying i take responsibility, we made a mistake. they like to skip that first step. dr. manny, good to see you. >> thank you. more breaking news on this story moments ago. this time a new announcement from the white house just as we were coming to air, ed henry and dana are live with us next on that. plus, the head of one of the country's biggest nurses groups is with us in moments. wait until you hear what she is telling us about the situation on the front lines for these nurses. plus, disturbing new details on the chemical weapons leftover in iraq. and whether the terror army knowns a isis is now sitting on top of a stockpile of serin gas. and perhaps worse. and t state attorney general just weighed in on why the city of houston is threatening to drag pastors to court over what they are preaching. tony perkins is here on an unbelievable story. stay tuned. >> for a city government to step into the churches and ask

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the white house's typical response to crises from the benghazi terror attacks to the beheading of james foley, the president historically has not let his political obligations fall by the wayside in the face of crisis. the commander in chief was spotted on the golf course after the beheading of james foley, something for which he expressed regret. but typically he had gone out, fund raised, gone golfing without apology. not so tonight. ed henry is live at the white house with more. ed. >> megyn, bottom line is the president is playing defense on a range of crises like isis in addition to the ebola situation. what he was doing today was to try to move aggressively to show he's on top of the ebola emergency. you're right, it was out of character for him, certainly different from what he's done before. he cancelled not guilty just one but two trips. he was supposed to do fund raidsing in new jersey, campaigning in connecticut, an economic speech in rhode island, canceled now we're told. even though he's repeatedly continued campaigning through

other crises. in fact, this summer when he faced heat over that his communications director had a very interesting quote to "new york times." "it is rarely a good idea to return to the white house just for show when the situation can be handled responsibly from the road. abrupt changes to the schedule can have the unintended consequence of undually alarming the american people or reuaticr a false sense of crisis." there is no false sense of crisis. why saying the second nurse should not have flown from cleveland to dallas, why are we still allowing planes coming in from africa, why have we not instituted a broader travel ban, listen. >> why is it still appropriate for the u.s. to allow people to fly into america from the hot zone? >> quite simply, ed, because there's a multilayered screening protocol that's in place to ensure that individuals that may have symptoms consistent with ebola are not even able to board planes in west africa. >> now, republican speaker john boehner has just put out a

statement dismissing that saying there needs to be a full travel ban to protect the country. megyn. >> ed, thank you. joining me now, co-host of "the five," white house press secretary of president george w. bush. so now the cdc says she should not have flown, this nurse number two. and yet when they said that they didn't come out and say we were the ones -- she to her credit called them on monday and said should i fly and they said, yes, you can. so when you came out today and said she shouldn't have, it should have been followed up with but that's our bad because we told her she could. >> in addition to the crisis president obama is trying to prevent in terms of an outbreak in america, the crisis of confidence is undermining the president's position because they're operating in a deficit, from a credibility standpoint. so they risk looking inept, incompetent and arrogant. because for the last three weeks really they've said let me tell you for 30 minutes why we've done everything we possibly can and nobody needs to worry. >> and there won't be an outbreak here in the u.s.

there won't be one. >> the president said your chances of catching ebola are extraordinarily low. that's true. but this is also an extraordinarily precarious time for the white house from a kmup kagss standpoint. i think he was right to cancel the trip. but to ed henry's point before they've said the president doesn't need to do that. it would cause undue alarm. now canceling two trips in two days. >> when they stood by their plans for so many major crises that we faced in the past. from russia invading ukraine and you name it, they have gone forward and said not to worry. and now that he's canceling everything, you think do we need to worry? what does he know? >> they're in a catch-22. however i do think that's the right decision for him to be there. plus the democrats will never complain that the president didn't raise enough money for them in the midterm. at this point this is not about the midterm. this is about government. and i think what i would also ask if i were reporters is did dr. frieden tell josh earnest, the press secretary, or the president of the united states before the cabinet meeting that the cdc had told her she could

fly? because that's a key piece of information. >> right. >> if that was not communicated to the white house, that's a problem. >> and how does he tell me on the show last night that none of the 48 they're monitoring in dallas, texas, who are just community people, none has a fever. but he doesn't mention the fact that one of the ones self-monitoring who treated the patient who had extensive interaction with him reported a fever to the cdc as of monday and told to get on an airplane. >> it is possible, megyn, he did not know. >> that's what we're being told. an underling handled it. >> if i was at the white house i would do two things, two people over to embed with the cdc. from a communications standpoint, while they need to manage the problem and crisis, they also need to manage their communications. dr. frieden is not a communications expert. >> he's a health guy. >> i would embed two people they trust to go to the cdc and walk with them and be in that building. >> latest fox news poll shows that 58% of the country now believes the country, and i quote, is going to hell in a hand basket. that just came out tonight. what does that mean for the

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all day on ebola as we first learn now that a second health care worker has been diagnosed with the illness that she traveled while sick from dallas to cleveland and back. and tonight she says it was the centers for disease control that gave her an okay to get on the plane despite the fact that she was showing early symptoms. her fever was not high enough to ban her but high enough to concern her. and now the cdc says she shouldn't have gotten on the plane. member of the board of national nurses united. i know you've written a letter directly to the white house saying we're done with the cdc. we're going directly to the commander in chief to try to get these nurses protected. i know you're very concerned about them. what is the president do that he hasn't already done? >> he can mandate uniform national standards and protocols that are enforceable in the hospitals throughout the united states. the cdc doesn't have the ability to mandate that the hospitals follow their guidelines.

the guidelines that that they have issued are just that, guidelines. so we're asking the president to issue -- use his, you know, executive authority to mandate that hospitals follow those uniform national standards and protocols. nurses have been asking for the proper equipment and that is the optimal protective equipment including hazmat suits, respiratory protection, another nurse to watch us put this equipment on and take it off so that we can be safe. >> that's apparently coming. dr. frieden said they're going to have somebody there monitoring. but he also told me you don't need pursuant to the cdc's existing guidelines you don't need head cover, don't need double gloved and don't need to cover your shoes. yet he dressed up like that when he went to liberia. but he doesn't think you need to do it here. your thoughts on that? >> well, we need to start listening to the registered nurses in the hospital throughout the united states. when the registered nurses are telling you that you don't have protocols in place for us to follow nor do we have the proper

equipment, then that needs to be taken care of. when we look to either nebraska or people transporting these patients or even the people who are dealing with the waste from these patients, they're all wearing full protective gear, they're wearing respiratory protection. and they are covered head to toe. so that's what we want. nurses who are going to risk our lives to take care of these patients want nothing less than full protection in order to do so. >> the head of the cdc told me yesterday that the protocols are clear and correct. and, you know, he's obviously tweaking them here and there as they go along, but he says the protocols themselves are clear and correct. do you agree? >> i would say that if protocols to be worth anything it has to actually get into the hands of the people that are going to use it. and what nurses throughout the united states are saying is that we do not have any protocols or mostly we don't have protocols that we've been trained to. so we are asking for that training. and the hospitals have thus far

in the vast majority of cases not >> the dallas nurses association, which obviously has been dealing with this, came out and said our advanced preparation given to us consistented of an e-mail about one optional lecture on ebola. there was no mandate for us to attend. there was no advanced hand-on training in how to use the personal protective equipment. no training on the symptoms of ebola, no training on what questions to ask. not even a policy on cleaning or bleaching or anybody to pick up the hazardous waste, "as it piled to the ceiling." do you believe that our front line medical workers are literally risking their lives now? >> oh, absolutely. i believe that if you are asked to take care of an ebola patient and you do not have the proper training and equipment in place, that you are risking your life. that said, we have to really prepare everybody, all of the nurses in the united states and health care workers because while, you know, the emory and nebraska are fantastic, the patients are going to access

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just a recap for those of us joining us late tonight. we got video a short time ago as the latest patient with the ebola virus arrived in atlanta. the patient is in the yellow suit. the patient will be treated in a special isolation unit which has so far handled other cases of ebola patients. she is named, this nurse, amber vincent. and she treated the first

patient who came over from liberia. she then traveled from texas to cleveland and then back to texas on monday after being exposed. the cdc told her she could do it. more on this as we get it. a disturbing report of leftover chemical weapons in iraq after the fall of saddam hussein. soldiers coming in contact with this until as recently at 2011. the majority of discoveries happened in an area that's now under the control of the terror army known as isis. general jack keane, former army vice chief of staff. good to see you. the "new york times" is reporting that the chemical weapons first have already been used against u.s. troops in the course of our first stint in iraq. and that the government, the u.s. government decided to keep it quiet. is that true? >> well, i find that hard to

believe. well, frankly the weapons could be used by isis. obviously they found some of these old weapons. and go back to the '80s, et cetera, our troops found some of them as well. their mission was -- our troops mission was not to clean this up. that was something the iraqis was supposed to do. and obviously they didn't do a very good job of it. so isis had those. and a lot of them are probably not useful. some of them probably are. and whether they put them into syria and have begun to use them, you know, with their front line troops, certainly that's possible. >> so you're telling me now that there is credible evidence that isis has control of an area in which what portion of chemical weapons are sitting, have been left behind? >> yeah, actually they were in there as early as of 2013 in vicinities where those chemical weapons were conducting terrorist activities. now they control some of that area physically every day. so it's indisputable that they have access to some of it.

the times is reporting that these chemical weapons and the use against u.s. troops happened between 2004 and 2008 but was kept a secret by the u.s. government because they didn't want it to be used, i guess, by the enemies against the united states. they didn't want it to get out that they had chemical weapons. but why would the u.s. government keep it a secret as it has been for all this time that chemical weapons were found in iraq? >> i don't think it was any plot so to speak, megyn, as my take on it talking to people, you know, who knew about it. i mean, it was common knowledge in the chain of command that these stored sites existed and occasionally our soldiers would bang into these things. they had -- taken them out of some of the storage facilities and hid them in -- literally in chemical weapons grave sites off the side of the road or whatever.

and our guys ran into it. it wasn't just a military base that the iraqis used to have. i don't think there was any intention to cover it up. these things got reported through the chain of command. as a matter of fact, i know from talking to people involved that the sunni insurgents used some of these as iuds against us. normally take a high explosive damaging to a vehicle that's what would maim and kill our soldiers catastrophically. but sometimes they use, not often, this is just a couple of occasions, they've used a chemical weapon. from the best of my knowledge didn't kill anybody, but it did obviously hurt them. and some of the chemicals were old and decay and didn't have as much impact is what i've been told. >> they're not in good hands now. general keane, thank you. >> good talking to you, megyn. new questions tonight for the state department after it endorses a muslim handbook that suggests jihad is a noble

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breaking tonight, texas attorney general greg abbott now demanding that houston city officials withdraw subpoenas that they issued for five local pastors now being questioned about the sermons that they are making. pat starns fox news radio host broke this story and has the details. >> looks like the mayor got their hand caught in the religious liberty cookie jar. we know five pastors in the houston area were handed these subpoenas. and the city was specifically looking for all of their correspondents with their pa igsers. they were looking for sermons where the pastors talked about

ho homosexuality, and the mayor herself. >> who is openly gay. >> openly gay and severely -- the religious community there has a problem with this component of this ordinance that allow men as women to use the restroom of their choice and vicerer sa. that's where the number of the religious members in that community had issue. >> so they challenged it in court. they want another vote on it. >> right. they want another vote. so there was a lawsuit filed. and in the process of discovery the city went after these pastors who were not even party to this lawsuit and demanded that they turn over this information. what's interesting is just a few moments ago the attorney general weighed in. and we do know that the subpoenas have not been rescinded, but a texas attorney general greg abbott just released a statement and he is demanding that the city of houston rescind those subpoenas. and he says the people of

houston and their religious leaders must be absolutely secure in the knowledge that their religious affairs are beyond the reach of the government. and he called what they did a direct assault on religious liberty, megyn. >> i think that's written in the constitution somewhere. thank you. >> thanks. >> for more on this joined by tony perkins. so this mayor, tony, today she came out. i want to share with the viewers now under fire, right, for going -- fine. she can litigate the issue of, you know, gay rights and lesbian rights, but what she's done now is try to go specifically after the pastor who is aren't involved in the lawsuit saying tell me everything you've said about gays and lesbians. let's play the sound bite today of what she said. >> we're not interested in at all in what someone may have preached about me or glbt community. it is part of the discovery process. >> we're not interested in that. and yet look at the tweet she sent out. if the five pastors used pulpits for politics, their sermons are

fair game. so which is it, ms. mayor? >> well, megyn, it's very clear here. in fact, i talked to the pastors this afternoon. they're fine with anybody listening to their sermons. in fact, but you don't need a subpoena to get their sermons. you can listen to them online. but this is not about the sermons. it's not about biblical instruction on homosexuality. this is about political intimidation. that's what is so chilling about this. it's not just the sermon. they can have the sermons. but it's about privileged communication between pastors and members of their church. this is a bad ordinance. it was a misguided ordinance to begin with. it turned into -- morphed into an attack on voting rights because they gathered 55,000 signatures to put this on the ballot, approved by the secretary of the city. and then the mayor stepped in in a very unusual move and invalidated the signatures. so now it's an attack on the

first amendment. this mayor is in a heap of trouble in houston. >> now they did come out through their attorney, the city did, dialing it back. we don't necessarily need the sermons. this is being blown up. basically we're looking for information relevant to this lawsuit in which we n find ourselves with those who oppose the ordinance. and if the pastors are preaching from the pulpit, well, they're not allowed to preach politics. and that's federal law. >> we hear so much about the separation of church and state, that wall of separation. she has taken a bulldozer to that wall of separation and is now trying to drive into the church and dictate what pastors preach. she is using the bully pulpit to try and silence the pulpits of the churches in houston. this is unprecedented. and we've been hearing from pastors across the nation. pastors have the right to speak to the moral issues of the day. as an ordained minister myself, i would say not only they have a right but they have an obligation to preach to those

issues so people in their churches know how they should live their lives according to these things. again, she's welcome to have the sermons. in fact, they would love to have her come and sit in their churches and hear them for herself. >> yeah, but the chilling effect that this may be having. you know, the legal expert who is have been asked about this from both the left and the right, as i've read up in the case, say look, it's one -- if a group whether it's the naacp or it's a religious organization, if they start getting political, they could lose their tax exempt status. that is a real issue. but that's a federal issue. it's not really an issue for the mayor. hence raising the questions about whether this is more about intimidation. i'll give you a quick final word. >> well, you're right. politics isn't election politics, they're preaching about moral issues of the day. and they're free to do that. and she has no right to try to stop them. the pastors are not ashamed of what they've been preaching. she can hear those sermons.

this is about intimidation. >> exactly. and if you show up to church, you can hear the whole thing. >> there's the offering she might have to put into. so maybe that's why she's not going. >> sometimes they come around twice i've noticed. good to see you. new questions for the state department after it endorses a handbook that suggests jihad is a noble calling. andy mccarthy is here next. wait until you see this. kid: hey dad, who was that man? dad: he's our broker. he helps looks after all our money. kid: do you pay him? dad: of course. d: how much? dad: i don't know exactly. kid: what if you're not happy? does he have to pay you back? dad: nope. kid: why not? dad: it doesn't work that way. kid: why not? vo: are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed? wealth management at charles schwab

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well, new reaction tonight to the state department seemingly endorsing a muslim handbook which claims that jihad is a noble calling and which was written by an organization that promotes sharia law. andy mccarthy former chief assistant attorney.

he's also contributing editor to the national review. so it was a muslim group in canada, and they refer -- they put out this anti-terror handbook, right? okay. starts off fine. >> so far, so good. >> but inside their anti-terror handbook they refer to jihad a noble and want law enforcement to avoid using terms such as islamic extremism. and our state department sends this out saying enjoy. >> because that's the position of the obama administration. it has been from the beginning of the administration. john brennan, who is now the head of the cia, was the president's counterterrorism czar, gave a speech i think in 2010 precisely this, we can't use the word jihad in connection with terrorism because jihad is a noble concept in islam. and what he proceeded to say was that it's this purification of the self or purification of the neighborhood. now, if you go to the manuals of

sharia law, it says not andy mccarthy's, this is the muslim brotherhood, jihad is to war against nonmuslims. that's what it says. >> the handbook says something very different. put it on board so the viewers can see what our state department appears to want you to read. here in section five, recommendation for intelligence and law enforcement. do not refer to terrorist as jihadis. this only emboldens them and gives them legitimate status in the eyes of the vulnerable. terrorism is not jihad. jihad is a noble concept in islam. >> do you think for a second that say iman worries about what we think jihad is? do you really think that they identify themselves or self-perceived on the basis of ha their enemies think of them? >> then they also say don't use terms like islamic terrorism, islamicism, instead use accurate terms like al qaeda inspired extremists. we have seen some of that here

in the united states. this isn't just from canada. makes you wonder if it was an accident in the state department because the state department was saying we're sharing information about countering acts of terrorism. >> in our country they have purged the -- they've taken out things that might cause a front if you're a moderate islamist. which back when i was a prosecutor is the kind of stuff we used to call evidence. >> isn't that the first time the state department has offered a tweet seeming to endorse a controversial figure or ideology? >> right. >> they endorse this radical muslim cleric then had to apologize for doing it then the president mentions the same guy in his address before the united nations. when starting to wonder whether it's accidental. >> he endorsed the fat law against american soldiers in iraq. >> this guy wanted to kill u.s. soldiers and yen we endorsed him

and said we were sorry and touted by the president before the united nations. >> i think the best thing you could put on this to give the benefit of the doubt anyone who seems like their rejecting real violent jihad, they want to get on the bandwagon with that preem and not interested in what the fine print says. >> why is that legitimate? maybe the terrorists will listen to them. they're not going to listen to you. >> they're not. but the problem is you really can't separate the doctrine from the jihad. and if you're going to read this stuff in a serious way, that's just a fact of life. and for us to ignore it makes us less safe because we're just not tealing with reality. >> also question whether this guy instructs muslim community members not to cooperate with the police, which is not exactly helpful. andy, good to see you. >> good to see you, megyn mplgt we'll be right back. but first what's coming up on "hannity". >> today for the first time he

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