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all right. so we're on social media @harrisfaulkner #factnotfear, if you want to get your questions in now. we're joined by dr. michael anderson in cleveland, ohio. a very large hospital system there. and dr. david samadi is my co-host for the hour. here's one from twitter. mike smith says, no one has talked about the spread of ebola as it pertains to insects, ie mosquitos and fleas. >> really not an insect-born illness. more bats are the typical carriers. i think, as i understand, the epidemic in west africa and what we're dealing with in america is more human-to-human transmission. i don't think there's a large vector in that. >> i agree. there's really no study done. ion because you would think the mosquito would be the vector that would transfer, but there's no study that's done that shows mosquitos are the carrier. fruit bats are the ones.

fruit bats, obviously once the secretion goes to monkeys and apes, and through consumption of this bush meat, it comes to the human body and evolves. one of the big questions that is comes up is what exactly has turned into this virus and why is it so aggressive? that could be a lot of mutation over the years. >> also the fact the people there in west africa are eating the things that are eating the things carrying this. bonnie in kentucky asks, harris, what if someone with ebola early stages thesing on you? isn't that considering airborne? your thoughts, dr. samadi. >> if you look at all the studies out there, there's no research or proof this is an airborne virus. we're talking about flu, which is airborne, meaning if you sneeze, many feet away you may be exposed to this. this is not the case with this virus. we also know that droplets can be affected. for example, if somebody sneezes, it can stay on the door knob, on a dry surface, for

about three hours or so. the flu can stay for many days. >> i would agree because i think one of the things you mentioned at the top of the hour that we should take some comfort in is that all those individuals in dallas that were exposed to mr. duncan over a protracted period of time, besides the nurses that took care of him, those people were probably exposed to hugging, to intimate exact, to sharing dinner tables. none of those patients have become positive for ebola. so i think there is some comfort in it's got to be contact with body fluids. unfortunately, the nurses exposed were probably exposed to a large amount of body fluids. >> wow. >> also, as you know, the incubation period is about 21 days. but in 12% of the patients, it may go all the way to, like, 42 days. we want people to know that. >> i wanted to ask you about that. what happens if they didn't quite get the beginning of the stage right and you're beyond 21 days? >> everything that cdc does or

what happens in infectious disease, it's all about risk and benefit and statistics of what the virus will be doing and how it's been behaving in the past. it hasn't had the behavior of acting up after 21 days. that's why they pick up that number. can it happen? low risk. >> all right. dr. anderson, we're going to ask you to stand by as we go on with some of the questions that have kind of been rolled into our coverage here. i want to bring this back now. there are four patients being treated for the deadly ebola virus in the united states with dozens more who are under observation. how exactly did we get here? ebola was first recognized nearly 40 years ago in the central african republic of zaire. nearly 300 cases, all of them fatal. there was also an outbreak in sudan. 1995, another outbreak in congo. 315 reported, 250 deaths at least. that's a very high kill rate

there. and this year, the outbreak in the west african nations of liberia, sierra leone, and guinea with around 9,000 cases, about half of them fatal. some of those countries have folded in and out. nigeria has been cleared. on september 20th, thomas duncan arrived in the united states in dallas after flying to the united states through brussels from liberia. after being initially sent home from the e.r., he returned and died ten days later. on the 12th of this month, the cdc confirmed nurse nina pham, who had treated duncan, as the first person to catch ebola on american soil. last wednesday, a second health care worker who also treated duncan, amber vincent, confirmed to have the virus. and the cruise ship carnival magic docking today in galveston, texas. the dallas health care worker who spent the cruise in self-quarantine, heading home. she's shown no symptoms and has been cleared of any risk of ebola. let's bring in will carr now

live at the port in galveston. will, take us through the precautions they took about getting that woman off the ship. >> reporter: hi, harris. well, the lab technician was the first one off the ship this morning about 5:00 a.m. central. she was taken off after spending five days in voluntary quarantine. some of the passengers shot video of this woman and her husband being taken off the ship. they were taken off in a white van, driven to their cars, where we're told they actually drove themselves home to dallas. that's because health officials tell us that they do not pose a risk after the coast guard helicopter landed on this ship while it was still at sea yesterday to take a blood sample from the woman. >> after the coast guard came, it was so scary. because she didn't know why did they do all that for somebody that was just a lab worker that was supposed to be a low-risk person. >> reporter: according to health officials, the woman tested negative for ebola. that created a huge sigh of

relief for all the people on board. that's about 4,000 passengers who set their feet on solid ground this morning for the first time in a week. >> there was not real panic, but there was fear. you know, there's always fear when you got something like this going on. >> reporter: beyond the last two days, passengers tell us they actually had a pretty good vacation. believe it or not, there are 4,000 new passengers on this ship. it's set to sail today. they say they cleaned this boat top to bottom. set to go back out to sea shortly. >> willing thank you very much. we appreciate it. breaking news now on a possible ebola vaccine. we're getting word it will start shipping tomorrow. we'll tell you where researchers hope it will be -- or how they hope it will be enough to protect hundreds of people from the deadly disease. of course, we have dr. samadi who can help us react to this deadly news. stay close. nches? 24/7

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there is no known cure for ebola. researchers in canada say, though, they'll begin shipping 800 viles of an experimental ebola vaccine tomorrow. and it's going to u.n. officials in west africa to try to help combat the deadly disease there. earlier this week, health officials said it showed, quote, very promising results on animals, and that they're starting clinical trials on humans at the walter reed institute in maryland. we won't know the results until the end of the year. that's a lot of time to pass. let's bring in dr. mary schmidt. she's an infectious disease doctor. doctor, good to see you. your first thoughts on a potential vaccine. >> thank you, harris, for having me. good afternoon, dr. samadi. certainly every contagious disease we've had to such an extent as this current episode of ebola has been contained with

a vaccine. current measures, although they worked well in nigeria, certainly have not been able to contain this problem in these other three countries. to so a vaccine will be needed. they'll actually protect the individuals who get exposed to ebola from hopefully getting the disease. they've been shown in animal models to create antibodies to be able to protect against ebola. so we're hoping to see in humans that hopefully they'll have a similar response. >> dr. samadi, your thoughts? >> i have a quick question, actually. so we have about 400 health care workers who have died in liberia and those areas. the question is, if we're going through this vaccine, should they be the one who gets the vaccine first so they can take care of the patients, or are you going to give it to the sickest patient out there? what's the thought from the

infectious disease standpoint? who should be the one getting the vaccine first? >> if i were the person in charge of this type of trial, certainly you need to get consent. getting a content to do a study in this type of environment is very difficult in the community. you have to get community buy-in. they have to understand the vaccine. it's not that easy to provide this kind of a very early phase safety and efficacy vaccine to a community situation. the health care situation would certainly be a lot easier of a recipient. at this point, i'm not sure who's going to be the recipient of the vaccine. >> yeah, and i can see your point, dr. samadi. if you're giving it to the sickest patient, it's kind of hard to even know -- i mean, it's not a cure. it's a preventive measure. so it doesn't really do you any good at that point. >> yes.

>> unfortunately. >> there's also a lot of a cultural issues going on over there with dead bodies. we need to help build up the infrastructure and the health care system over there and change some of the rituals when it comes to this disease itself. i agree with you, harris. every effort should be done in order to build up the anti-viral medication. >> dr. mary schmidtschmidt, we appreciate your time. dr. samadi bringing up interesting points. really what you're talking about are all the people on the front lines to protect them and keep them from spreading it as well. there's a big debate brewing over whether to ban travel from the western african nations where the worst e ebola breakout in history began. the white house said a ban would hurt the effort to stop the spread. that's not stopping people from insisting it would keep americaningamerica americans safe. we'll talk about it. dr. samadi has interesting thoughts on maybe doing it for a short period of time. stay with us.

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the parent company of the dallas hospital where the first ebola victim in the united states died has taken out a full-page newspaper ad this weekend, apologizing for the facility's handling of that

patient after two nurses managed to contract the disease. the ad reads in part -- >> this amid a number of allegations from the biggest nurses' union in the nation. among them -- >> let's bring in knockout jean ross, the co-president of national nurses united. so glad you're with us. dr. david samati is onset with me. i'm going to ask him to pose the first question. >> this is what happened. i think the nurses -- jump in any time -- but the nurses are the pillar of the health care system. and they lost my vote -- cdc lost my vote when they started blaming the nurses for this kind of mistake. they are on the front lines,

exposed to this. jean, what do you feel about this after you heard the cdc blaming the nurses as a result of this infection? >> well, it was a terrible thing to do, and we, of course, were not the only ones who thought so. indeed, the nurses two anonymously first came forward to us from that hospital, that was the straw that camel's back, when they heard that nina pham was the one who supposedly breached protocol. we heard all along through our survey in the united states that from 750 hospitals, they asked what the plan is. we asked where equipment is, and there was none. so this 40789 was not prepared to protect its front line workers. >> jean, i guess my first

question for you has to be about those changing guidelines and where we are now. they put people in danger changing the rules. >> well, i think right now at least the change appears to be going in the correct direction. what we have asked for up front, and indeed we have a petition on line asking people to support us, but we have written a letter to president obama saying, please use your executive wherewithal to have congress put forth a uniform standard that protects all health care workers. that would be the protective worker we see at the university of nebraska, and it would be enough staff so that all of our nurses and health care workers could be protected. so if congress would do that and he would use his authority to sign it, you go online to the petition at

nationalnursesunited.org and sign. >> we'll get that up on our social media page. appreciate your time. thank you very much. we'll be right back. nothing beats america's favorite

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there. we're not really prepared yet, but the time will come that we will be open to take care of all of these people. isolate the disease, identify, isolate, take care of it and inspect. don't be fearful. >> fun to work with you for the hour. thanks for being with us. on buzz beater this sunday the ebola news gets worse, the coverage turns more alarming and the media plunge into that pathetic beltway ritual the blame game. >> the president should be cautious, safety first. but we're doing political correctness first. i think this is mass incompetence and arrogance. >> it's a pattern with this administration. they're always telling us, don't worry, it's not as bad as it looks. >> do not listen to the hysterical voices on radio or television. or read the fear provoking words online. the people who say and write hysterical things are being very irresponsible. is shep right? is the saturation coverage fueling fear.