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about the same way, about the same look, not much as changed. but i always say to just get you to step back in the middle of panics in markets, or great times in markets. go the other way. see you tonight. sorry for the cauliflower, hello, everyone, i'm greg, along with kimberly, bob, and dana. this is "the five." here's my favorite "new york times" headline. amid assurances on ebola, obama is said to seethe, oh, my, poor thing, our president's upset because bad stuff is happening, where have i heard this before? >> i think people are right to be angry. i'm angry. >> every day i see this leak continue, i am angry and frustrated as well. it's inexcusable and americans
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are right to be angry at it and i am angry got it. nobody is as frustrated that the website is not working as me. it's going to get fixed. once again in the role of protective parent, by portraying his anger, not yours, after all, he's under so much stress, no one understands what in does to him. it's the other kids that are holding him back, would hiring a tutor help? should we take away his golf clubs, he'll only sulk. similar stories appeared that said no one is madder than he is, which absolved him of opportunity. and the media loves these behind the scenes stories, spoon-fed by aides--if you took that headline and replaced one word, amid assurances on ebola, america is said to seethe. of course the article would then
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blame the seething on race, because that's what they do. so the media keeps bumping their head into to the mirrored glass that is obama. president obama is the creation of their own doting adulation, he was the man they were waiting for and they let him walk all over us. as a crisis always -- congrats, media, you built that. so bp, what is the strategy behind the stories, these stories that say he is seething. is this all orchestrated? >> a little bit, yes, because i would imagine last wednesday, the white house communications team thought to themselves, we're going to have to get through to the sunday shows, and everyone's going to continue to talk about this, but we need to change the story line, and the way to do that is to give the media a little something special. they were behind the curtain,
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what was obama thinking, when they had that meeting with the aides and he was so angry. they basically said the president shares your anger. so president obama is absolved of the responsibility. he's got ron klain as the ebola czar, nice day out, goes golfing four four hours. >> i don't think anybody ever wondered what president bush was thinking because they always assumed he wasn't. >> dana's right, president obama was so mad, he was so seething, that he hit a white ball around the golf course for four hours, taking his anger out on the golf ball. he's seething because they screwed up the debate so many times, the information flow so many times, they lost the confidence of the american people that, again, not that the american people thought we were all going to catch ebola, that we weren't sure that they knew
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what they were doing. now there's even a question whether the nurse that they're taking care of in dallas should have flown to the cdc in atlanta. there's a lot of questions. they bungled the whole thing, so obama, if he's seething, he's on our side, if we're seething, he's seething. >> because when they move somebody, they should move them right away, not after they have been getting the treatment for a while. let's hope for the best for her. >> what did you make of that article? >> here's what i think. this is no surprise, i think that he's probably -- wouldn't you be angry? because once again he's taking a hit, but he has no one really to blame but himself, he's got to put the time in, he's got to make the right decision, because ultimately the decision rests on himself. he can't keep throwing people
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under the ebola bus because this should have been handled better and no other country is better at science and resources than any other country. we should aspire to better outcomes than we have seen to far. >> that's a damned big bus, and secondly i'm shocked that you will all are shocked. we're two weeks from the election, every president uses -- clinton used to do it, he was a master at it. the president was just set, angry, blah, blah, blah. they all like to peek under the curtain. they've done the exact same thing. i don't know why everybody's so shocked by this. >> i just want him to do something right. let's get it -- >> when i first saw the article, i'm like here we go again, because i remembered most not all of the examples that greg
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showed in his monolog, that every single time there's a government screw up, the government comes out and says he's really mad. >> but if you have the ability to edit like that, you can make anybody look mad. >> they were talking about this article, but they were also talking the appointment of ron klain and whether or not that was helpful or not for this whole problem. >> i didn't buy it at all. this was the president's aides, most of them anonymous, portraying him as having all this empathy with the public about all this. i would say the appointment of ron klain, the administration thinks this is more of a political and public relations problem than it is a public health problem. it's probably both. >> the political curtain has gone up on this theater and ron
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klain is part of it. it did not please me, i thought we needed somebody with more expertise on this specific issue. >> so, eric, when you lose juan williams. you're entitled -- >> feast your eyes on this, bob bickle. i've been thinking about this all week long. ron klain, ron klain, i'm trying to figure out why ron klain. and it sounds absurd, but what if it was a republican president, and they brought in someone like ron klain -- it's not a knock against karl rove, that's the type of person on the left that they brought in to handle an ebola crisis. it's tone deaf. >> and you would have preferred somebody with some type of medical back ground and experience. >> if this were taking place
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during the bush years, i would like to see karl rove taking care of it. it's not handing, it's a question of organizing big government. >> it's the ebola czar. >> maybe they named him the president of the universe, but why are you so prized, it requires some political hack two weeks before the election. >> i never heard of this guy, i think america maybe would have liked to have heard who this person is. for that matter, maybe rove would have been better. >> by the way, where's our surgeon general. >> when the doctors come to ron klain and say we need these assets here, he would understand do they need it, do they need more of it? >> in ron klain's defense, probably the person that matters the most is that he has the confidence of president became, number two, dr. anthony fauci
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the head of the nih, that this is a way to make sure that everybody's talking to each other. >> you've got too many doctors involved in this inthing. >> ron klain's not a bureaucrat. the public may not have known what ron klain was. >> also ron klain would be able to ask doctors questions that people like us would ask, that you could push the doctors to say that's -- we need a better answer to this, i actually think it could work in his favor. >> you know what? let's see. wrap it up. >> k.g., president's declining poll numbers among women are getting worse. and tena brown said that female voters no longer feel safe with president obama. >> safe is the word. i don't feel safe either, i really don't. i'm worried about the choices e
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he's taking, i'm worry it about his lack of focus. >> he calls a meeting, nothing changes and then this is her line, he blames everybody else. and wow, when tena brown says that -- >> my mom likes that. >> can i say that i'm frightened sitting next to kimberly every day. >> in a weirdly excited way. >> this is a good example of how you read polls, this is among likely voters, there are more likely republican women voting than republican men voting. so you're going to get this kind of skew. i don't think obama's that bad, if this were a presidential election year, i don't think it would be. if you screen out everybody who it's really not e, nen you've got a skew -- e. >> there is a trend in most of
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these polls, but it's basically along the lines of do you think the president cares about people like you? do you think the president cares about issues that are important to you. and that trend line for president obama has been decreasing, especially since april, may time through the summer. with the terrorist threats and with ebola is not the best timing for him politically, but it is just the reality that they face, because of -- let's just wrap this back up. the monolog, when you show there's a systematic problem with government at every level. they want to think that the government is doing what it's supposed to do, so you don't have to worry about it. women have enough to worry about it. they don't want to have to worry about their safety as well. >> a political poll, overwhelming majority, 64% of voters stay it feels like events in the u.s. are out of control. >> out of control. >> why does that shock you, too. it's been one thing after another after another. of course it feels a little bit out of control. i'm sympathetic with obama. you have one -- when is the last
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time we talked about putin? >> that's a good point. there's a submarine right off the coast of sweden. >> and we have hong kong. >> while this is is happening while you're dealing with ebola, the new york attorney general is going after energy drinks because they encourage college kids to drink energies drinks. >> think about tian'anmen square, how much coverage that got. hong kong is a serious -- how many thousands of people are out there protesting. >> not just a problem, but an opportunity. >> it was like five blocks in one. >> ahead, monica lewinsky, you remember her? she returns to give her first public address. >> really? >> i have been publicly silent for a decade.
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the texas health presbyterian hospital and centers for disease control face civil liability in the aftermath -- as the family of amber vinson, the second nurse to contract ebola lawyers up. the family strongly disputed the ---the national nurses united says health officials have dropped the ball, jeopardizing the safety of nurses like amber. >> in this country, because of the system we have, we don't have a national system, it's piecemeal, it's fragmented so each hospital is going to do, according to i believe cdc guidelines what they want to do. >> do you have confidence in the
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cdc? >> yes and no. yes, you cannot anticipate every possibility, but the nurses and other workers did anticipate what they needed before these errors occurred. >> she these have an attorney now, they feel that she's being maligned and misrepresented in the press, she's being questioned as to whether or not she steved specific direction from the cdc to go ahead and board a flight. perhaps she wasn't as forthright as to the nature of the symptoms and how she was feeling that stay. but i do know texas is very difficult to bring cases. the duncan family, or this individual, if she tries to bring a case, good luck. >> can you bring it to federal court? the family is mad at the cdc. >> it's going to be next to
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impossible to bring a case against the cdc. >> the cdc would not even make a statement like that if they were that worried about a legal case against them because that would be very damaging to make an admission like that. do you find that statement amusing? >> here's the situation, i feel terrible about this nurse with ebola, but here's a high profile situation, and they bring out lawyers to sue. there's a big surprise. come on, they're taking advantage of -- >> they haven't filed any lawsuits yet. >> but they've got duly martin working for them. >> the only thing that spreads faster than a virus is litigation, and whenever something bad happens a trial lawyer grows it's wings, and it's just the fact, i will say the nurse -- nurses really are no different than firefighters, you don't send them in to fight a fire without training or proper protection.
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and if they weren't properly trained or protected that was bad. but there are twice as many americans killed in chicago shootings over the weekend, than there were americans that died from ebola, so bullets are more airborne than ebola and isles something to think about when we do these stories. >> this is on the hospital, it's not on the federal government,'s on the hospital. >> they with respect prepared. >> i actually think it's both,'s on the hospital because thomas eric duncan came and told the original admitting nurse that he had been in liberia, but that information didn't get to the nurses down the road and the doctors, so they let him go home. that's clearly dallas presbyterian's problem, but the other problem, the cdc protocol, their protocol is evolving, now they're saying no skin showing. it was clearly not airborne, you had to have bodily transfer between the infected and the not
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infected, so the cdc seems to have dropped the ball. dallas presbyterian seemed to have dropped the ball. the nurse's family probably has a lawsuit, but thomas duncan, doesn't have a lawsuit. so the family may have a lawsuit. >> they're changing their stories too. at first they said that he saved somebody and now they're saying he didn't. >> then they said he helped her but he didn't know she had ebola. >> texas has more trial lawyers than they've got spanish flies. these guys are -- i lived down there and it was something that went around. all right, tom. whenever you have a high profile situation, trial lawyers just descend and texas has more trial lawyers than anybody i have
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seen. >> i think what they're saying is they have a tap for damages for $150,000. they're tight with the boots around from. >> now the cdc has transferred pham from dallas to atlanta. does the vinson family have a lawsuit against the cdc? >> again, you make the decision, who are you going to sue, in which court, and when they say we were trying to save her life in the best facility with the best medicines available, but for sure people are going to bring lawsuits. >> one thing is because of the two nurses having gone through this and now the changes, awareness is at an all-time high, so hospitals around the
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country now are going to be at least more prepared to, if a patient like duncan first walks in hopefully will be more ready than before. hopefully these nurses will make a full recovery. that's the focus. the lawsuits can come later. but now the cdc is changing protocols. and on the five, earlier this month, president obama told us this, remember? >> i'm not on the ballot this fall, but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. >> he voted earlier today in illinois, did he vote for his policies? will other americans? that's next.
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15 days, that's how much time that most voters have before the midterm election. president obama cast his vote in his home state of illinois. >> the president isn't on the ballot here, republicans are desperate to put him on the ballot because they are trying to run away from their own terrible record. >> the republicans are trying to walk a very difficult balance. what's happening here, the democrats that are running, they don't want to be aligned with the president, but they also have to defend the fact that they have supported the president, in most cases, 95%, 96%, 97% of the time. >> they also disagreed about the outcome on november 4. >> will your party take the senate? >> absolutely, we feel really good about our chance of taking the senate. >> congresswoman wa
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wasserman-schultz, what do you think -- >> the president hasn't had initiate's back. he hasn't even had your back. >> last month you dangled out a comit of information talking about an october surprise. was it ebola? >> how do you predict ebola. >> the obama's policies are on the -- the demographics who are going to vote is tilted towards the republicans, republicans will probably get the senate, they'll probably get nine or ten house seats, and the fact of the matter is that the lowest turn out will be among blacks, which
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they're trying to gin that out. the people that really made up his base in the presidential election will be missing in action from this one, which these republicans will do. it's of course a problem, but it's not a reflection of the entire country. >> we have got the october surprise then? >> no, no. we still have 15 days left. >> do you think that your surprise is still going to happen? >> yes, i do. >> kimberly, you have not liked the republicans' chances up until now. what do you think today? >> i still like them. i mean, come on, if they can't do it this time -- i mean, forget it. >> how many seats do you think they'll pick up? >> i think probably three to four. >> no, no, no, you're going to need six to ailing, that's the magic number. you're the numbers guy here, eric. >> the 538 group put together, the last 16 years of all
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elections, they show you by days out and by leads, the odds of winning, right now we're 15 days with anywhere between above 1% lead, you go from a 77% to 91% probability of winning. in other words it is -- ones that are 2% and 3% above right now, are very, very likely to be wins, and the races that are 1%, they tend to skew back and forth either way. the point is, if you take those leads, the republicans win it. there are only four seats that are within this area of margin, the 1% or to, colorado, kansas, north carolina and iowa. and also for all four of those, the republicans -- >> is that just the targets that -- that the congress -- >> every single election since 1998, he took where the candidates were, a certain amount of time out, going up to the very -- >> they were ahead by more than that. >> i really don't green bay with
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sabbado. what they're doing, if they take congress, the incumbents are using to win by huge margins, so it's not surprising to get 90%. >> okay, greg, you can answer whatever you want. but i was going to ask you this, the one thing that they can't measure in all those polls is a turnout. what would you do to get the voters to turn out and vote. >> liberals in general are motivated by sent mentality and symbolism. both of those elements are missing in the midterms. the general election to them is like gone with the wind, you go out and see it. i think the republicans are going to win big and the fact is, the novelty is over. the novelty of president obama
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is over, he's like the song you heard at the beginning of summer that sounded great, but then by september, you never want to hear it began. >> even if some of them stay home, the democrats are still better at getting out the vote, that is the problem. and these races are too close to say for sure republicans have it in the bag. >> excuse me, you're stepping on my story. >> i was still speaking. >> can i just say one quick word? >> one quick word and then we got to go. you'll tell us on the break? ahead monica lewinsky gives her first public speech, and payton manning gives something big to write about.
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all right, welcome back, let's have some fun time for --
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the fastest seven minutes on television, three exception stories, one expedient host. it's been over a dpek indicate, but at 9:57 this morning, monica lewinsky re-entered the fray. she stunned a crowd of, quote, high achieving millennials with these comments. >> 16 years ago, fresh out of college, a 22-year-old intern in the white house, and more than averagely romantic, i fell in love with my boss, in a 22-year-old sort of way, it happened. but my boss, was the president of the united states. now i deeply regret it for many reasons. not the least of which is because people were hurt and that's never okay.
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>> bob, you're more than averagely romantic. what was that? >> all i can say is, i don't understand, she was 22, she was vulnerable, it was a terrible thing to do, but she knows politically, the country did not fall off their stool when they heard this. it got overcame and did quite well. >> bring us to the two ladies hire, she says that -- >> i'm totally focussed, i don't think it was a good idea, it doesn't even sound -- i don't know why she's talking, have some self dignity, move forward, to me this whole thing is bizarrely gratuitous. let's be honest, if that had been a republican president. but the clintons all worked
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together to make sure that she looked like the villain. remember they called her a stalker and things like that. but the thing about monica lewinsky is she keeps getting billed as this is her first time back out. but two months ago, she did a big interview with national geographic television. the people in that audience, are young people that probably had. even heard of monica lewinsky and probably didn't know that that happened. but it's difficult for a young woman to take the stage this she was more than romantically inclined than others. it's maybe not something i would have said. >> you're right, she got a standing ovation. >> she claims in the speech that she was the first victim of the internet, which to some extent, she was right, because that was the initial conduit for the scandal. you cannot diminish the importance of this event by blaming the drudge report of li linda trip
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linda tri linda tripp, when you consider that this was exposed by drudge, a deeply flawed president had been blackmailed into destructive behaviors by a foreign agent. it was great that this got exposed, because if it was discovereds by someone else who wanted to do damage to our country. what would clinton have done? he would have done anything that wouldsaved his butt. to colorado where a democrat and incumbent senator mark udall finds himself down in the polls to republican senator cory gardner, one of the things you look for in an elected official is the ability to think on your feet. here's an example of not that, watch what happens when the senator was asked to name three of the most influential books in his life. >> the three most influential books in my life. "profiles in courage", let me
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think -- we can play this over, or retake this? >> well, let's go downing -- what about music, what's the last song you listened to? >> i'm brain dead today. >> that's very cringe worthy. >> what are you going to do? the worst part of it is when he thought about the answers, he had to fabricate them so that they were linked to colorado. so he could not step out of the mindset of being a politician, he couldn't say what his favorite book was, which was "joy and hate." but it didn't happen in colorado. this republican is so stupid -- what they're telling me is, he's a democrat. oh, never mind. >> dana's coughing. i feel score for yudall.
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this guy has been campaigning, he's probably been working 20 hours a day. >> every candidate needs an answer to that question, it's campaign 101. if a sitting senator cannot come up with three books he's ever read in his life let alone have them on his night stand. who felt sorry for sarah palin, when she was asked what do you read, nobody feltor for her. >> i said i understand it. it's hard work campaigning, it just is. >> but have an answer. >> i honestly think that he couldn't find three books that related to colorado. >> listen, that was disturbing, that was not a good moment. i was sad. >> do this one, last night, superstar quarterback payton manning did what no man has ever done before, watch. >> and manning, guns it and it
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is the winning touchdown. you have just witnessed history, with that touchdown, payton manning has become the nfl's all-time leader in touchdown passes breaking brett favre's record. >> five-time mvp, an incredible quarterback rating. >> i don't think people can appreciate what this guy has accomplished, that's a huge number of touchdown passes. but still, this guy, he's the kind of guy that doesn't, unlike udall, freeze in the pocket. this is the most deliberative quarterback i have ever seen. >> and he's got a couple good years left in him. he's having a monster year. >> i'm all in on manning's stock, i mean he devastated my niners, it's not a happy moment for me. but nevertheless, i love the
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prowess. >> judging from the 49ers are in the nfl, right? i'm just curious. >> i don't know what's wrong with you people. i could not watch this. >> blue dress, blue dress. >> you're the one that said it. you want to say it, probably? >> with this clown car of a show. all right. forget it. all right, we're going to leave it there. >> we'll figure it out on the break. the breakfast of champions is expanding the definition of who a champion is. a champion is. who wheaties put on new box.
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new cover of wheaties. i'm taking this seriously. i little bill gates would be a serious choice. bill gates, for kids, he's a guy who worked really hard. >> dana, you're next. >> of course, i would choose the true champion of my family, jasper. look at him. >> oh, no. oh, no. >> if they're going to broaden out the champions. >> nobody would buy that, they think it's dog food. >> no. >> you would be fired. >> maybe i could be on it with him. >> all right, that's enough of that. i'm sorry folks. >> i wan to explain why they put madeleine albright on the cover. because people are wondering, she's less likely to get a du rooirks, she's leslikely to beat a spouse, and she's less likely to run a dog fighting ring. so my choice was an inanimate
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time for one for thing. here's mine. greg's secret to happiness, copy righted 2014. the definition of true happiness in life is never to get into things that you can't get out of. like this little fella here, if you take a look. he overestimated the size of the hole and under estimated the size of his butt. who hasn't been there where, it's leases or relationships or dinner parties or genes, you got to be able to have a way out of things. and luckily he did get through that hole. >> what was that little thing? >> a little hamster. >> it looked like a mouse.
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>> the moral of the story is always find a bigger side. >> in fact, senator udall in colorado, if you need a good book to read, it's called "glass job", if you are interested or work in the world of crisis communication or pr, i highly recommend it. it's a no bolognaway to deal with issues. you would like it. >> like get ahead of the story. it's a very good book, i highly recommend it. >> i hate him, thank you, kathleen. >> eric? >> yesterday afternoon, last night, adrian and i had the very good fortune to spend some time with steve winn and his lovely wife, he's a great patriot, very involved in political landscape. here's a quick little video i
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took. >> steve winn, check it out, we're having a great time at the wynn resort. steve, you're a great patriot. >> love it. look, we have a couch behind us. this is fun. >> he's a self made billionaire. >> my advice is you don't have selfies that close. that's all i'm saying. >> i saw too much of him. >> where are we? beckle? >> where are we? talk about having a bad day yesterday, the global news weatherman mike sobel had a guest, this guy's a weatherman, ripple is invited on for this guy to do a calm weather forecast. >> ripple wants to play. the temperature is at 4, getting into the weekend.
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17 on sunday, we'll be back with more in just a moment. >> wow. >> rough day at the office. >> i don't like that, when you go do the weather at a dog park, that's just stupid, i hope this isn't about royalties. >> it is. can we get the weather guy out? what's going on here? this is like bizarre. in other royal news, guess what, they have a due date for the baby, the second royal baby, very exciting, due in april, they just made the announcement that the duchess of cambridge will be having her second child. very excited, you know it, i definitely will cover it. right, greg? >> you really don't like the royals. >> the giants are playing the royals. >> i know. >> these are the only royals i like. we're united on this.
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>> okay, set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. with 15 days to go and senate control hanging in the balance, democrats say president obama's midterm message is getting muddled with bad optics, this is special report. >> good evening, i'm brett baier. president obama's election champ fired up and ready to go is taking on a new meaning today as some of his followers not only got ready to go, they got up and left right after the president started talking.

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