it's dana perino, "the five." today "the new york times" ran a long list of lone wolf terrorists. it's a who's who of losers, all who have something in common. yep, you guessed it, they're virgos. actually they're all radical muslims, but also they're worthless wusses, toeds incapable of productivity, worms embracing evil because it offers comfort to their envy and bitterness. that's what a death cult is, an off-ramp from gnawing obscurity. which is why naming them rewards

them and mocking such human garbage is all they really deserve. which brings me to two quick points. lone acts of terror by human garbage shouldn't affect our country's strength. the ideology is deadly but the threat is small and crushable, but only if we reject the cowardly cloak of modern tolerance. we slip out of that straitjacket and these ghouls lose their protective coating. who holds us back is phony outrage. second, if terrorists want us dead, then keeping them here makes absolutely no sense. both of these fiends who killed canadians this week had their passports revoked. if they wish to leave this country, why not let them. that's one less psycho here. but blocking their exodus here means they'll hit us here. so nlunless we round up the bad guys, we might as well hasten their exit. we pay the fare and blast their

ass to jupiter when they land. call it space travel. i'll even spring for first class. eric, this is a thing that i don't understand -- >> go to bolling on that. >> you revoke passports which keeps -- you keep them from joining terrorists, which i get, but it's kind of half enforced because we don't do anything to them when they're here. like we don't put them away so why don't we just let them go and kill them over there? >> i guess the theory is revoke their passports, follow them around, listen to what they say, listen to the chatter and see if you can open up the -- pull the layers of the onion back and find a bigger terror plot. i just kind it very interesting, the process. the terror attack happens yesterday. yesterday the canadians call it terror, immediately, right away. then we find out this guy had some -- he converted to islam, et cetera, et cetera, had some issues, the passport was revo d revoked. why is it so hard for us to do the same thing. why is it such an off limits

thing, when a guy stands up and kills 13 people, 13 or 14, depending on where you are with an unborn child, 14 i am, you can't call that terror, that's workplace violence. have they declared the oklahoma city beheading terror yet? have they done that yet? no, they haven't, right? but meanwhile they're more than willing to support the canadians calling it terror within hours of the terror attack. >> yeah. >> don't get it. >> it's weird. bob, remember yesterday we were talking about how there were several sources of chatter among these radical groups and yet we have one mentally ill person who acted alone. in a way isn't that good news, the fact that there was chatter and they only got one weirdo to act? >> what did you say the goats thing? >> nothing. >> okay. the one thing these people have in common, all of them as far as i can tell reading through their bios is that they're all criminals. they all have served time or

have a long criminal record. >> criminal contact. >> yeah, so usually when you find people to do these lone attacks, you find people like timothy mcveigh who did this stuff in the oklahoma city bombing. these are unstable people. i don't think these are the kind of people you would put, if you were the leadership of isis, in charge of doing this. >> did you forget the other common thread, islam, not only the criminal link but there's a common thread that greg points -- how's this. not even us, "the new york times" points out and they go through them and they have an islamic background, either they were brought up through the islamic religion or converted to islam. what about that one? by the way, why did you pick mcveigh of all the incidences that you could have picked over the last 17 years, you wekt back to mcveigh. >> that was the most outrageous, atrocious attack and he was a right wing kook. >> kimberly, it seems to me that the isis strategy here is to rely on copycats of isolated

losers. they're like galvanizing spree killers that have nothing to go for so it's not really organized, it's inciteful, it gets people going. >> right. and isis probably just assumed might behead these people too. they don't care about these guys. they care about, okay, let's get all the weirdos to go ahead, whether they self radicalize or not and let them commit acts of terror in the united states. my big problem with this is, one, the fact that we cannot affirmatively call this what it is, an act of terrorism. i really have a problem with them saying workplace violence, like in the case of major nidal hasan. we have to stand up to terrorism and put a stop to it. the first thing you should do is label it correctly, just with that being said. >> i want to go to this tweet from christopher hayes, who i believe is on another network, i'm not sure. >> never seen it. >> yeah, it's in anchorage, alaska. >> or out of his basement.

>> he tweeted this. he said that awkward moment when you're sitting around waiting to find out the shooter's religion because it will determine how big a story it is. dana, does that reflect how the media is so fearful of linking terror to ideology? at least he's being honest. >> he is. but remember when the colorado mass murder happened, it was brian ross of abc news who immediately said, oh, he is a member of the tea party. and then it turned out that he wasn't. but they were looking for it. when they think it's tea party, then they have no party going ahead and assuming. when it's islam, then there is this islam phobia, that prevents them from going full bore after them. the other thing about these guys we are talking about, this lone wolf that is susceptible to radicalization, terrorists prey upon people who are weak. >> yes. >> and feel helpless and despondent. >> losers. >> well, people that feel like they have no help.

one of the stories that don't get a lot of attention is the refugee camps in jordan. you have millions of people living in camps. they could end up being there for years. what happens during those years when you're a formative young person. the only thing that can help you get out of your situation is jihad. i think that the united states and other western civilization has an obligation to show them that there's a better way. >> right. >> let's remember hamas grew as a result of recruitment in the camps -- >> but did 9/11 hijackers, did they come from refugee camps? >> no. >> they were well educated. >> and well funded for that matter. >> point something out, greg. we said that both of these attacks in canada, the passports were revoked. we know monday the passport was revoked. i think there may be some question whether the second one yesterday, his passport was revoked or not. just thought i'd get that in. >> okay, cool. i want to go to this amazing tape. with every cowardly attack,

there's always a hero. in this case kevin vickers shot dead the attacker. this is him entering parliament today, i believe. he is coming in to a standing o. this guy is an amazing dude. probably prevented -- >> mass murder. >> mass murder by acting fast and shooting that guy. i would like to think for every nathan cirillo there will be 100 isis heads on stakes. >> do you know what he's carrying? just curious. >> is that called a septer? >> he was part of canadian law enforcement for 30 years and never fired his weapon once in 30 years and this is the first time he fired it at someone. >> he's also protected foreign dignitaries and members of the royal family but this is a person that showed courage and strength and right away acted, thank god, because how many yards away there was 100 members

of parliament including the p.m. and that's where the guy was headed. >> let's go show some tape of the prime minister calling the events of yesterday terror. >> fellow canadians, in the days to come, we will learn more about the terrorists and any accomplices he may have had, but this week's events are a grim reminder that canada is not immune to the types of terrorist attacks we have seen elsewhere around the world. >> may i? >> yes. >> thank god he was willing to do that. now if he can only get our own president to do the same thing ourks own administration tothin. because when you do define it as terror, you open up a whole different level of assets. you can get a joint terror task force involved, you don't have to worry about the accuser lawyering up and rules of evidence and speedy trials and what not. fall call it terror if it's terror. if it's not, go ahead and make

the change. >> that's right. we weaken our position as a country because we're cutting ourself off in the legal system and with counterintelligence assets when you sit and call it workplace violence. it's not some irritated guy that you work with. this is someone who specifically is radicalized and committing these acts to efekt wait a purpose. >> do you think there's a reason or purpose they did that? i'm asking the question. >> no. >> i think there's a good political reason not to call it terror. then you can say there are no terror attacks under my watch. especially prior to a re-election. >> but i think they have identified some others as terrorists, right, so why do it for one and not the other. i'm just curious, i don't know. >> like the tsarnaev brothers was an act of terror. >> right. >> because it didn't happen in the workplace they couldn't call it that, could they? >> one of the strange things about this, and it's not to affix blame on canada at all, but the fact that whenever ray ceremonial is linked to a gun,

it means it doesn't fire. i mean is that something that is -- should these guards be armed? >> in canada? >> since they're out in public and they're sitting ducks if they don't have a real gun. i mean i'm sure they have a reason not to. >> so as an american and having lived in d.c. a long time and been around a lot of that security, to me that answer seems very obvious. i think what stephen harper was trying to tell his nation, as he said, we are not immune. it is possible that they'll have to make a decision and change some things. i disagree with the notion that we take away our liberties if we actually arm law enforcement. i think that that's what they are there for and they want to be armed. otherwise they also become the victim. >> does anybody known what tomb of the unknown soldier's guards have -- the military has their weapons loaded? i don't know. >> yeah, neither do i. i want to go to another tweet from right after the attack. glenn greenwald, who is an investigative reporter, dana

perino almost threw up just by hearing his name. canada, at war for 13 years. shocked that a terrorist attacked its soldiers. kimberly, what's your initial response to somebody basically saying it's your fault. he also went on in the article to say that terror is such an undefined word or you can't define terror. >> baloney. he should go hang out with the librarians and become a wordsmith because he's not offering any other redeeming commentary or insight by making a tweet like that. i'm just disappointed that we're still so reluctant -- it shows me their ignorance that they don't fully understand the situation. >> i think it's a confusion of blaming grievances versus ideology. so what glenn greenwald is saying is canada deserved it. that young soldier, of course he's going to be hit because canada has been tough on terror around the world. of course, canada, you deserve it. looking at it from a poichoint

ideology, a terrorist seeks to kill an innocent person to advance their political agenda. those are two different things. i think a better way to look at terrorism is one based on ideology and not grievance. a grievance tries to explain it away, but it's murder. >> right. it is. did you want to say something, bob? >> no. no, i just -- no. >> the only thing -- i don't know where glenn greenwald is coming from with that comment but the isis tweet and i mentioned it yesterday, apparently what they're doing is they're saying any of the coalition members who are bombing isis, any attack that happens on any of the soil of those independent countries, i think australia was one, i think there was something that happened somewhere in england -- >> britain. >> britain maybe as well, they're taking credit for it. they say we are everywhere. you attack us -- >> even if they're not. they're just using it as propaganda. we don't know that. i'm actually curious to find that out. what sort of chatter do we have and what sort of chatter do we not have, glenn greenwald. >> exactly. coming up, chuck todd

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nbc's chuck todd describes himself as a stubbornly neutral journalist. couple days ago, the "meet the press" host sad down with a radical left wing hack group, media matters, whose sole purpose is to go after organizations like fox news. he told them this, i think it's amusing to me their obsession with trying to make everything about media bias, whatever story is out there, there's always some sort of supposed media bias angle to it. well, chuck, here's one of the reasons we have to talk about media bias. you are the pot calling the kettle black. remember back in 2006 when the media had this to say during the midterm elections when president bush was in office. >> when support for the war in iraq also losing ground, many republican candidates for office are putting some distance between themselves and the president. >> two weeks from tomorrow, election day, and we have new indications it is shaping up to be a very difficult election for republicans. >> now fast forward to this year a new media research study shows

the network evening newscasts have essentially blacked out bad election news for democrats. look at that, in the blue, that was 2006 when george bush was having a tough time in the midterm election. and in the red -- or in the first case it was zero mentions. in the red, that's president obama. let me start with dana. are you surprised about the lack of coverage of this bad election cycle for president obama by the major outlets? >> i am not surprised. they don't shock me anymore. but they always disappoint me. i am surprised that chuck todd would do an interview with media matters. this is guy who is now the anchor of that program "meet the press." he could do an interview with "the new york times" magazine or "gq" magazine but he chose to do something with media matters, which i think is strange. i agree he is more neutral than most but if you look at that media research center review of the midterms that basically don't even report on their own poll. a couple of weeks ago there was a poll that nbc news had

about -- that showed republicans doing well and nbc didn't even report on its own poll. >> you know, greg, and in the 2006 midterm, the democrats split both the house and the senate. they won seats to win them both. there's a good chance republicans will do it this time but nobody is talking about it on mainstream media. >> because it's depressing to them and makes them very sad. you have to forgive chuck todd, he's been in the belly of the beast so long that the stomach acid has worn down his brain. perfect example of how media bias works. yesterday we did a pretty strong piece on a video in which feminists used young girls to say lewd things for a feminist cause. he didn't cover it. if it was the nra doing the video, he would have covered it. that's how bias works. fox news wasn't created as something to fight liberalism, it was fighting bias, which was a documented fact in this industry that there is bias. that's what makes chuck todd so

skittish, because he's really the target. >> kimberly. >> yeah, look, this is -- i don't know why, i think it was beneath him to go and do that interview. i don't understand what was to gain on that. of course they don't want to cover anything that takes them away from their happy place, okay. so the thought of losing seats disturbs them greatly. they have sleepless nights so they're not going to talk about it, how the republicans have momentum or how they're on target to be able to get seats and this is going to change the dynamics of the political equation. they're not interested in covering that. >> if you guys are really in control, could you put that little media thing back up, bobby, you're a numbers guy. you can't dispute the fact. look at the numbers. >> yeah, i can understand why there would be reactions like that. i don't know todd -- i don't know this guy, but i would be a little cautious about going on with media matters, for example. >> talk about that poll. >> let me just say one thing for a second. this election has been wholly the worst election i've ever

seen in terms of something positive coming out of either side. the democrats are as bad as the republicans. the only news outlet that i've seen so far -- >> you don't want to talk about that graph there, though? in the blue is george bush. >> when it's bad for bush, they do a lot of stories. when it's bad for obama, they bury it. that's the formula. >> so we sit back here and say this and it's true -- how many shows -- well, never mind, i'll talk about our own show. nobody has gotten interested in this election. very little coverage, except "usa today." >> i think they're trying to suppress voter turnout. and actually it would work in president obama's favor if they covered the races a lot. look at all the embarrassments from the senate democratic candidates. arguably as bad as some of the things that happened in 2012 with republican candidates that embarrassed the republican party. wendy davis is terrible in texas. you've got embarrassing situation with kay hagan not

showing up to her own debate. >> the democratic -- >> i'm allison lundergan grimes and this is the big sandy power plant in kentucky. they're shutting down half the plant and laying off the workers because mitch mcconnell didn't fight to get the scrubbers it needs to reduce coal emissions. instead mitch and his wife pocketed $600,000 from enemies of coal, including new york city mayor michael bloomberg. i approve this message because the difference between mitch and me is that i'll fight for these jobs and no new york anti-coal billionaire will ever buy me off. >> wow. >> well, it's an effective ad if it was true and she was on the other ticket. but this is you know what president obama says. say whatever you've got to say to get the win. the ends will justify the means. >> i'm chuckling -- who in

the -- what party does not say do what you have to say to get yourself elected. this is politics. this is not bean bag we're talking about here. there's high stakes here and of course you're going to do things like that. >> but she's lying. the washington post fact checker said it is the worst ad of a nasty campaign year and grimes should be ashamed of herself. this is not mcconnell saying this, it's the washington post fact checker saying this about her. >> i've done many of these things before. >> you're saying you don't care whatever it takes, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. >> i didn't know this was the popes of norville here. you guys come in late -- >> it's amazing, though, when -- if you do a real ad with honesty, that's considered hurtful. like you actually do something about crime or if you do something about cronyism. the other side -- people will go

my god, that's just awful. they don't say it's a lie. when you lie, it's like everybody does it. a politician lying is like a monk chanting, it's what they do. >> she's trying to confuse the voters. oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one that's for coal. >> real quick. i wish these guys would poll local news stations and big newspapers in the state. you'll find out that the coverage of this election was terrible everywhere. >> we'll leave it right there. should americans who are uninformed go out to vote? does that help or hurt the country? and are uninformed celebrities doing harm to our electorate? that's coming up next. my name's louis, and i quit smoking with chantix. i had tried to do it in the past. i hadn't been successful. quitting smoking this time was different because i talked to my doctor and i... i got a prescription for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it was important to me that chantix was a non-nicotine pill. the fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it.

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>> apparently over the last two days, people have been taking something that we talked about the other day on the show completely out of context. it was -- there's a suggestion that, kimberly, you said that young women shouldn't vote because they're uninformed. when i heard about this, she was talking about if you're a prosecutor and prosecuting a case and you have to pick a jury, you typically do not pick the young woman because she would not be the person you want on that jury. so you were not saying that. this is a woman that went to the latino stars event in queens so she could talk to young people about the importance of being involved in your civic duty. >> who's the idiot that came up with that? >> media matters. >> unfortunately, yeah, what they did is took a headline and said kimberly guilfoyle says young women should not vote. i made a joke, yeah, if i wanted to thank someone and excuse someone from jury service that is the language you use in the courtroom. they want to go back and do social media, dating websites, fine. nothing about voting. i take the right to vote very

seriously. i take the right to serve on a jury very seriously and i think you should be informed when you do both things. >> so you're saying to get out of jury duty, i should cross dress? >> well -- >> because i have been and it hasn't been working. >> no, you have to be young. >> oh, i'm not young. >> can i say one thing about this. media matters lines up on my side politically. if you're going to do something like this, you've got to be sure you're doing it right. >> that never enters your mind. >> it's not just them, it happens in other places. but i think this one was particularly egregious because it was exactly opposite of what you were talking about. so get your act together, guys. >> unfortunately, they made that headline and the liberal media ran with it and used the headline that they manufactured when there was not one iota of truth in it. >> supposedly the huff post picked it up. they must have writers, let's see what media matters puts up anti-fox. >> right, that's what it is. >> and let's spread this garbage as far as we can spread it. >> but it does show the lie

behind militant feminism in that they willig nor attacks on conservative women like sarah palin with words we can't repeat. you rarely see them going after attacks on women -- there was a stoning of a woman yesterday by isis for adultery. and the brothel where women are being raped repeatedly. so these things to them are not in their world. however, oh, commentator on a talk show on fox news. i can take those words and turn it into something outrageous. it's their little rubik's cube. that's what they do. they don't care about the real things in life. >> yeah, like crimes against women and children and outreach to minority communities and serving on the board of places like girls source when i was back in san francisco to help

out young women in disadvantaged neighborhoods. my point is you've been given a powerful blessing in life in this country to be able to vote and to sit on a jury, so come equipped, come prepared because you don't want to dilute the votes out there because you were uninformed and spoon fed something that's inaccurate or you don't even bother to equip yourself with the facts, anybody out there. this goes for everyone. >> you're going to have a hard time getting these people up to speed on these issues. can i just say one thing in defense of these people. every special interest, the last two weeks of an election is going to their best message. they don't focus on islamophobia. they don't focus on women. they should. but they only have one shot at buying 30-second ads and go after the one thing that will stir up their voters. >> we're not talking about ads, i'm just talking about long-term ideology. media matters, who makes a habit -- it's almost their only focus is attacking fox and fox personalities. >> and making it up. >> and they'll twist it and turn

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when the obama administration released more than 2 th,000 illegal immigrant from our jails last year, it assured congress and the american people that those detainees were not dangerous. >> the agency released these

low-ri low-risk, noncriminal detainees to ensure detention levels stayed within our overall budget. priority remains on serious criminal offenders and those who pose a significant threat to public safety. >> but records obtained by "usa today" indicate otherwise. some freed faced kidnapping, sexual assault and even murder charges. today ed henry asked josh earnest to explain the discrepancy. >> does the administration have any regrets about telling the congress, telling the public that we're not releasing people with serious criminal records and it turns out some of those people were charged with very serious crimes? >> the administration continues to place a priority in ensuring that the american public is protected and safe. >> how can you say that when several months ago jay carney said don't worry about it. >> i'm not in a position to discuss individual cases. >> ed got stiff armed.

immigration and custom enforcement acknowledges that it's true but says that those released cases were by and large dictated by special circumstances outside of the agency's control. kimberly, can i ask you about that. are they talking about other sort of legal maneuvers these people might have been involved in which is why they apparently didn't have control over their outcome? >> what they're saying is somewhere along the way in the process, they lost control of it essentially. they don't want to say that but that's what they're inferring. somewhere in the court system there was a disconnect -- >> or a deal? >> or a deal made specifically that affected this outcome. but this is how people can slip through and get -- it doesn't matter. it's like obamacare. it was sloppy, it wasn't ready to go for game time and this also, i think, was done in a haphazard, reckless way and all i can think about is politics being involved here and getting people to support you in the future that you hand out green cards and immigration --

>> let me combine this with a question about the green cards. yesterday it was reported that the obama administration is planning -- well, they have ordered 34 million work permits and green cards. they have ordered the card stock which requires an rfid chip and they have to procure this so they have let out a contract bid asking for people who could supply all of these additional green cards that we may or may not need. the white house today tried to say that shouldn't imply that the administration is going to do this by executive order. but bob, that's playing a little fast and loose with the truth. >> yeah, it is. but the reality is that they can't do 34 million people. it would be not just politically impossible, it's also legally impossible, i think, until you have an act of congress. can i just go back to slipping through the legal system in this country. it happens all the time. this is a very small number of people out of the total universe we're talking about. yes, some people slip through and yes it should have been done better but it's been going on for 100 years. >> it's okay that jay carney told everybody that wasn't the

case? >> he probably doesn't know. i'm not trying to defend jay carney but take any number of these in any administration and there's going to be people slipping through the cracks. it just happens. >> can i refute that? >> okay, fine, maybe he didn't know, don't guarantee and promise that it's not going to be high level criminals like murder, rape, assault, armed ron re. he literally said possibly low level. and he didn't say these were going to be -- the 2200 with massive records -- >> they don't all have massive records. >> then don't say anything. don't make the promise knowing that very well there's a good chance you're going to be wrong a year later. why would you do that? okay, it's bad enough that we let out criminals, hardened criminals, but it's worse that the white house said we're not going to let out hardened criminals. there's the problem. >> and that's my question to you, greg. how can you trust the administration -- they're going to want to try to push forward a deal for the 11 million or so that they assume are here and

there will be maybe a debate in congress or maybe the president will do it himself. but having something like this come out right beforehand doesn't necessarily engender trust. >> how can i trust you? >> me? >> this is so hateful calling these criminals like kidnappers and murderers, so bigoted. why use these labels? i mean they're undocumented transgressors. get it into your head. these labels, all they do is they smear people and they're people. yes, they're rapists and they're killers and they're kidnappers, but underneath all of that, they're just people like you and me who deserve a chance. by the way, once again to get your ideological vision to prevail in america, you have to lie to everybody or you have to hide it. so if you're a liberal, you've got to ask yourself, if you lie to others to prevail then essentially you're lying to yourself so why don't you just drop the act and grow up. >> what if we're talking about ten people here? >> we're not. we're talking about hundreds of

people. >> how do we know that? >> because there was a study put out, somewhere around 600 have higher level crimes. here's why it matters. when they do try and do executive fiat to let -- let's call it five million people say, right? they're going to say don't worry, we're not going to let the criminals. clearly they don't know who the criminals are. >> eric, the chances of getting five million people here is going to be struck down by the courts. >> are they not talking about that? >> right now they're trying to get away from this topic for the elections. >> okay. >> thank you. >> we'll talk about this in november. >> then why do they leak out the fact that they asked for this contract then? i think that was actually to show some apiecement. >> i think they're trying to have it both ways when it comes to the hispanic vote. people are trying to motivate bases. everybody says the republicans are motivated. you know something nobody ever asks about? independents. independents are a key part to win big time in this country and nobody has a gauge on what

independents are doing. >> and it's a fun show to watch on fbn, you should catch it. >> that was a very nice plug. pay it forward. next, the annual government waste book is out and it's not a funny read but jimmy kimmel found a clever way to get us to laugh about it. >> let's see if you can tell the difference between a real government expenditure from waste book and an idea a stoner came up with on his own, okay? a room full of monkeys playing video games to unlock the secrets of free will. stoner or government expenditure? and the answer is? >> when "the five" return.

welcome to the fastest 1:30 of tv. the government has a bad habit of spending money on silly things. each year senator tom coburn likes to point that out. jimmy kim el camel came up withe to see you could tell if it was a government expenditure or

stoner. >> yeah, that was a government expenditure. mountain lion on a treadmill. a metal foil that could keep mountains cold. that was a stoner. >> a microchip that could read cats' emotions. >> this is one of your favorite topics. what do you think? >> we don't have a lot of time. you could do pages and pages of this ridiculous funding. it's a joke. it's an absolute joke. >> i don't mind saying so, coburn's list is a joke. >> why? >> because the guy is not very well pretexted. he comes up with $25 billion. i don't come up with anything near that. >> it's bob math. >> no, it's not bob math.

it's coburn math from oklahoma. they do something different here. >> oh, here we go. here we go. >> dana, what do you think. >> >> i would put senator coburn's word up against yours any time. i hope he passes the baton. i think ridicule is the way to help change things? government. >> it is a good tool, isn't it? it's effective. it made it on your show. >> here is the problem with liberals. if you love government so much, then you should be the most vocal over its abuses, right? rather than defend it, you should discipline it because if you're not, you're like a rotten child that indulges -- a rotten parent that indulges a rotten child. if you love your government, you should want to change it. >> make it better. >> that's the reason i was trying to make this point. every time we have to defend this and they come up with these outrageous things --

>> don't you want to know the truth, if there are abuses in government and funds that could be going to other important causes?

one more thing, bob. >> you wonder why chris christie is a dangerous candidate for the republican nomination process. look what he said about minimum wage. >> i have to tell you the truth.

i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage. i don't think there's a mother or father sitting around the kitchen table saying you know, honey, if our son or daughter could just make minimum wage, all our dreams would be realized. >> there are millions and millions who get by and they live in poverty. >> not true. >> can i have my segment without somebody jumping on it just once? never mind. >> just go. >> bob, this was a segment we were going to do yesterday and it's not fair to do its as a political thing. it's not fair. >> you cannot tell someone that you are pregnant with their child on facebook and count that as notice. a woman got pregnant from a relationship, she posted it on facebook, he didn't get the message, the court came down and

said that was not sufficient notice to terminate the father's parental rights. however, remember another story in related news, facebook, legally parents might be responsible for the posts of their children. >> bob, i'm ceding my one more thing time to you. >> no, that's all right. >> i want to. i want to. >> it got knocked off, right? you can laugh about it all you want. i had to try to get over the george washington bridge yesterday and i had a hard time doing it. you want to defend that guy? >> how is it your fault you couldn't get across the george washington bridge yesterday? >> they haven't fixed it yet. i'm sure they will. >> dana? >> bob said this has been the most boring election but it was not that boring in vermont where you have seven gubernatorial

candidates and they had a debate. >> take a look. >> most of what we discuss ton will not be relevant to me. >> someone had given $5 million to a ski resort to buy a new snow blower. peter, did you do it? >> what is more important to you, if you could have all the money in the world or all the love in the world? >> i guess i'll just pour this bottle of water on my table here. >> the democratic incumbent is up by 14 points and likely to win, despite that competition. >> abe sanja jumped the white house fence. this guy punches and kicks those

two dogs -- >> why did they pull the dogs off of him? and he's jumped before. >> that's it for us. "special report" is next. keep the camera on me. a huge victory for the irs, and a huge setback for conservatives in the tax agency's targeting scandal. this is "special report." >> good evening. i'm bret baier. no harm, no foul. that's the general thrust of a federal judge's decision today, the irs over its targeting conservative groups for extra scrutiny. good evening, shannon. >> hello, bret. the leader of a conservative