sadly, they happen, we live in a world where these kinds of things just happen. there but by the grace of god, you never know. but something tells me in washington state, they know. good night. this is a fox news alert. we want to update you on the school shooting near seattle today. three victims are in critical condition, another is in serious condition after an attack at a high school north of the city. two people are dead, one of them is the gunman who was the shooter. >> reporter: this all went down at about 10:45 local time. this was the school's first lunch period and we understand from eyewitnesses that the gunman, who was a student, took the gun out of his backpack, this is a no locker school, so he had to carry his backpack

around all day long. he went up to a table with students he was apparently friends with and started shooting. when it ended. he turned the gun on himself. there is an officer that's assigned to this school. this is a campus with 2,500 students and faculty, but the police officer was not in the vicinity before the gunman took his own life. we understand that three people were taken to providence high school in nearby evansville. another one was air lifted to what aharvard medical center th seattle. this was a freshman who was kind of trouble, he had access to guns at home. he was a member of an indian tribe. he was in a fight about two weeks ago with a number of football players, it centered around a girl. he apparently broke up with a girl a couple of days ago, a girl that he's been dating a couple of years.

that fight that he had at football practice lasted a while and then he was suspended at school and just was allowed to come back a couple of days ago and now this. again, we're looking for the condition of these four people who were taken to local 4 hospitals. three are in critical condition. >> we're going to bring you up to speed on any new developments on the shooting this hour as they come in. now to a terror attack right here in new york city. that's what police are now calling it. >> as i'm something -- a preliminary evaluatioevaluation. >> a 32-year-old muslim man went after a group of police officers with a hatchet. he was ultimately brought downly

polic -- this is now the conservative terror attack twins 2009. this is how we should deal with these threats. >> nypd used to do until those morons in the "new york times" editori editorial -- we have to find out what people are thinking, we have to find out who the radicals are, we have to find out what's going on in the mosques which are often incubators for these terror attacks. >> and former director of the cia, general michael hayden says we need to be concerned about terrorists online recitements. >> what we have now are these lower threshold attacks, they are very, very hard to stop,

particularly when these terrorists are self-motivated. the recruitment that's happening on the world wide web, at what point does that radicalization process protect it from free speech and free thought into something that's inevitably violent in which we as a people, as a community, have a right to interfere. >> so as a country, how do we move forward from this, as we are faced from evil, directly confronted by multiple attacks, a reluctance by the administration. out of irrational fears, plus a need to be able to proceed forward with counter intelligence, surveillance, without people saying their liberties are being violated. that's the conundrum as we see it. >> i remember the ap won a pulitzer by exposing the nypd

surveillance on mosques. the important thing to know is that this is not criminal activity. criminals want to get away with a crime. when they rob a bank, they wanting to live with their money. their decide for martyr come and their desire for death removes the deter rent by police. so your immediate thought is why kill them, then? there needs to be a fate worse than death and we need to be okay with employing it. and i don't know exactly what it is, but it has to be something that makes it so that they won't even consider doing this and maybe it's something that involves removing their skin. >> but eric, in this country, we tend to treat these things as a law enforcement matter, especially when we have people who are radicalized who come over here and commit acts of terror instead of treating in a military tribunal.

>> that's why what the nypd did this afternoon after the attack, literally hours after the attack, they called it terror. when you immediately call it terror, when you call it terror, you allow the fbi to lead the investigation, rather than a local authority. it also frees up the joint terrorist task force that has a lot of assets that can help you to not only gain evidence, but also prosecute. then the prosecution part of it. it ups the level of offense by 12 levels, which means the penalties are much more rigid, starting at seven years going up to 22 years. so number one, you employ more assets, and number two, you're allowed to increase the penalty portion of it. which would be somewhat of a deterrent, but along the lines of your idea, maybe you can use the same methods that they're using on their citizens and they may be a deterrent.

>> you're trying to formulate a plan, an overall approach to terrorism this h inn this country. because it's something we have to develop a custom. >> i think if we had a good one, because it was very clear and definiti definitive, the global war on terror. some wanted to change it because they felt like it was too in your face. but if you look at that map of all these things that are happening, because if you have these loan wolf attacks, that's not catastrophic, like in the world trade center where you lose 3,000 people in a morning. this one off attacks where they pick off people who should not be vulnerable, the police and the military, then you have to ask, what general hayden is saying is that we have to calibrate when does their right for civil liberties infringe upon my right for protection.

just to have the ability to track down these people to prevent them from carrying out whatever lone wolf attack they have in mind. i think that the local nypd, they did a favor for the administration by not worrying about what they're going to call it. they called it today, this is an act of terrorism. i think that sends the exact right message to the rookies and the people who are thinking about becoming cops and that the leadership in the nypd will with stand the fight and give them the resourcers they need to fight it. >> instead of trying to go back afterwards and fix it and losing time and resources, they nailed it from the top. >> a couple of things, one, ft. hood came under the preview of the uniform code of military justice, the fbi would not be able to be in there anyway, two,

does anybody believe that they called for terror? >> when you call it terror -- >> who calls it -- is that some universal guide that calls up and these now there's terror? >> eric holder made that call. eric holder said, no, it's not terror, and that elimbrim -- >> i'm thinking yes, probably they could. i could be wrong, but if you call it terror, i'm -- >> i'm just wondering, i think the assumption here is that if you call something terror, all of a sudden, terrorism is not going to happen. i don't see one difference if you call that terror in ft. hood or not, these things still would have went on. >> it does matter if you call it terror. it's a complete miscarriage when we call it workplace violence because we know quite clearly that that is not the case. why would we do that, canada has no problem doing it, the nypd

has no problem doing it. >> if we had called that terrorism, you think that anybody of those other pictures would not have appeared on that map? that that would have stopped these people from doing it? >> i think the proper answer to that is we are a country that obsesses over what we're calling something while our enemy kills us. we should just be destroying them. we should assume it's terror because they're terrorizing us and we shouldn't even be having this discussion, unfortunately we're having this discussion because our leaders are timid about calling a spade a spade, and that's why we're having this discussion. it's a pointless waist of discussion. >> the one place we have not called it terror, was ft. hood because it's under -- >> that's incorrect. >> how is it incorrect? >> everything you said. >> once you prosecute somebody under troerror, they don't have

the same rules of a speedy trial, a convicted murder, he killed a cop and now does a radio show from prison, you think a terror would get a radio show from gitmo? absolutely not. >> what i'm suggesting here for a second, is not go to easier on terrorists. do you really believe that -- do you really believe -- >> we're talking about predictive outcomes. >> i think there's a difference between insanity and jihad. and is that label matters. it also affects the defenses that is available. >> i heard that, but -- go ahead. >> we have two threats that are going on, one is that terrorism and one that is ebola. ebola is an easier threat to confront, because you don't have

any of these linguistic gymnastics. there's no language problems ther there's no feelings, there's no emotions. we can't -- we have to tiptoe around things. so in a weird way, language and the poison of political correctness has made our country less safe. >> here's the difference, why do you not see this? >> bob, the oklahoma beheadings. there's a label there. >> if this is criminal, the defending can lawyer up immediately and shut the hell up and that's all the information you're going to get, unless the lawyer decides -- >> it also affects the victims. >> you can interrogate a terrorist, right? you can't interrogate a criminal. >> it puts limits on detention, on questioning -- >> i asked a simple question,

that's all. >> major nadal hassan actually lived after committing his act of terror, that we called workplace violence. the man yesterday, wielding the hatchet was shot dead by the police officers, which i think is the right outcome. but what greg was saying is that in order to figure out a way to get ahead of this problem that, the fate has to be worse than what they want. what they want is to be martyred. so what can we do to hold them or -- i'm not going to suggest the maiming thing idea. but it was a good idea. >> do you think, dana, that doing that would prevent other people down the road from doing things they do? >> but we might find out about another plot. >> i think they playern world as fools, so that's what they have done in britain, as they have gone forward and they come up with all these ways

to -- by playing us for fools. that's why i think that -- i love what the nypd was saying, they don't waste any time to say it was a terrorist act. >> new information on the first ever ebola case. >> you're going to hear from the director of the mom of one of those little girls ahead on "the five". blrk

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some good news and bad news on the ebola front today. let's start with the good news. nurse nina pham has officially been declared ebola free and she spoke outside the institutes of health in maryland earlier today. >> i feel fortunate and blessed to be standing here today, to believe in the power of prayer because i know people all over the world have been praying for

me. though i no longer have ebola, i know it will be a while before i have my strength back. so with gratitude and respect for everyone concerned i ask for my privacy and my family's privacy to be respected as i return to texas and try to get back to a normal life and reunite with my dog bently. thank you. >> but on the bad news front, here in new york city, dr. craig spencer is being treated in new york city. health officials are now checking everyone he has been in contact with as he traveled throughout new york city. a woman who recently was treated patients with ebola was quarantined upon arriving at new york airport. they have realized that there are going to be more of these. greg, you're a man about town in new york city r you worried

about all? >> no, not at all. but the doctor, however, he went bowling and to a number of places. it proves what new yorkers have known is that no matter how sick or tired a you are, you still have to go out, because you always feel if you stay home with the sniffles or sick, that you're going to miss something, that there's something going on, you have to go bowling or somewhere. his contracting ebola proves that the only folks at risk are those brave ones who are tending to the sick. that's the cruel iron ay of thi disease is that it only punished people who are trying to help. in the community nobody's getting it, but the people who are treating people with it are the ones that are getting it. th >> anyone feel that the doctor acted irresponsibly last night or in the last few days?

>> i do and i pray for him to get better and i hope he does, but i also think we have to examine what he did. the manu. >> the man knew with all the stuff that was going on, i know he had a 100.3 -- whatever, here's the point, he had been treating people with ebola in liberia, you come back, are you not on -- i would push back a little bit on that, greg, i don't thk i would go bowling yet, i think i would wait the 21 days, the incubation period, so make sure they don't have ebola. >> you can't get it if he's asimpa simp symptom mat tick. >> we saw mr. duncan, pictures

taken by his family, he was looking fit, looking well. you can't -- just to make sure a situation like this doesn't happen. while still being respectful to the people who are -- >> he did go through screening, bob, when he came back from africa and there's questions as to whether or not we have the right screening procedures. >> i'm going to pass on this out of an abundance of caution. >> you're going to pass on talking? okay. let me just take a look at governor cuomo's comments last night. he's very proud of how new york handled it let's take a look. >> we feel good about how we are handing t ining the situation, public health point of view, we feel we are doing everything we should be doing, and we feel we have this situation under control, i thank my team for their good work. >> the fact is, it was

inevitable that an ebola case would come to new york. everybody comes to new york and every communicable disease comes to new york. and he's trying to create calm. the other positive thing to get from ebola, it is such a debilitating disease, which is what you said, quickly, is that it actually corrects you from going out, once you get it, once you become symptomatic, you aren't going out, you aren't going bowling, you aren't getting in cabs. >> unless you're a new yorker. >> unless you're a new york e. so the peoples are fine, it's the health workers, it's the doctors, who are at risk, who get the disease and who should make sure they're protected an get the proper training an that they're okay. >> the mortality rate in west africa is opposite what it is here. >> if anything to calm the populous, there should be some measures. >> next, a video accusing the

nypd of islamophoba and racial profiling is getting a lot of attention on the internet. what really happened when we come back. turn the trips you have to take,

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they made it fake for publicity's sake. two video bloggers got press after posting a video they said showed the islamophobia of the police department. it shows the guys wearing western clothes arguing and pushing each other, as the cop stands by and does nothing. and then the pair did the same thing but dressed in muslim garb and get the same reaction. >> you need to leave. >> what are you arguing about? why are you dressed like this? what is this? it looks like there's a

disturbance over here. get against the wall. hands up. put them up. open your legs. open your legs. >> i don't have nothing. i'm not doing anything. >> get against the wall. put your hands up, spread your legs. >> look, look, look. >> [ bleep ]. >> mind your business. >> the video was tweeted out by the council on american islamic relations and picked up by "the huffington post" and called ate small glimpse into the world of racial profiling, which was not real. the cop smearing dopes came clean admitting it was a hoax. >> it was a dramaization. we just want to bring awareness to the world. our intention was not to make

the nypd look bad. if you feel it was such, then we apologize to you. >> then they're really sorry, for what, for being caught? if the stunt was indeed a dramatizization, why didn't they label it as such? to justify their fakery, they claim that racial profiling happens to them while they feel. why create a fake one, just throw the real thing? they couldn't because they couldn't. so they did this to raise awampx of raci awareness of racial profiling. eric, they apologized, but they're implying it's okay to fake things to prove a point. >> and we literally talked about that line, raised awareness. we're going to talk about in the next segment.

>> point to this, did they do any research at all? >> they actually did to their credit, when they found out about it. >> if care was so focused on what was going on, why didn't they contact these two idiots and say what's going on. >> they did. when they realized they had gotten on the bad side of care, they -- >> they needed to do an apology. >> don't accept it. sometimes sorry isn't good enough. that's the problem here, they're creating for problems and hostility and misunderstanding why their actions, i don't think there's a good idea at all. there should be repercussions for this. >> is it kind of bad timing that the two were attacked, the two actually created some fake bigotry about cops.

>> in the a block, they tried to play the western world for fools, and they fell for it. i'm glad they came out and apologized. i am disturbed by the number of attacks against police officers across the country, not just for fakery like this, but seems to me we're headed in a really bad direction, and we need a course correction. >> well done. >> bob, shouldn't be president come out and denounce this video for inciting people to do bad things, and perhaps should the filmmakers be thrown in jail? >> that would be a novel idea. >> i don't know, maybe there's this benghazi thing i heard about. >> i don't know if it's despicable or not. but i will stay it for myself. i don't know about anybody else. but when i get on an airplane, and i see people dressed in that traditional garb, i get nervous.

i. >> so you're admitting you're biassed. >> it's biassed, if you want to call it biassed, call it whatever you want. if you get on a plane and you're sitting right next to somebody in garb. >> remember the video we showed you of the little girls cursing to raise awareness. the director of one of the moms are defending the video. i'm an idaho potato farmer

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>> all right, we showed you disturbing videos of young girls as young as 6 dropping f-bombs in the name of equality and awareness. >> i'm pretty [ bleep ] powerful and ready for success. so what is more offensive? a little girl saying [ bleep ]. society treats girls and women. >> one of the girls and her mom were interviewed an entertainment tonight. here's their explanation. >> some people are saying this could be child abuse. >> child abuse to me is rape, you know. >> i would think that child abuse is -- allow a student girls to make as much as c

student men. that's a an outrage. to me that is child abuse. >> do you realize the weight of what you're saying? >> yes. >> do you think what you're talking about? and did u you know those curse words? >> yes. >> what was the most fun part of it for you? >> saying the lines for a good cause. >> we'll start with you,>> that's terrible. >> how about the ignorance of the statement, that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what is child abuse, and it is abusive to put a child in a profane situationlike this. >> i'm sure the mom is going to be -- they're creating a --

they're just greedy, shameless punks. and parents, i mean, it is amazing. by the way, i tweeted with the host, brooke and she said that the kid was crying on the show, i think that should have been shown, that the kid was actually crying. so that's a great mother. >> we need to play -- the full interview will air. >> what was the most fun about it? i mean come on. >> it's terrible that they did it. >> i have noticed the increase, the increase of swearing among kids is driving me crazy. >> i'm an adult. >> next on the fastest 7, brad pitt on between two firms,

behold the awesomeness. >> is it hard for you to maintain a suntan? >> why? >> because you're living your life's shadow. tell me what it was like when you first laid eyes on angelina, was it one of those classic kl love stories like ross first saw rachel? you know that show, "friends?" ♪ i'll be there for you >> i like that song. >> i like the show. i think it makes me laugh. it's good stuff. i don't know if i could pull it off as well as brad pitt or president obama did. i like it. >> it's funny, but i don't actually -- it's intentionally awkward, so that takes away the pleasure of it because it's all orchestrated, i doblts really get into it, i get it, but i'm like unintentional awkwardness, like "the five."

>> friday, yay, but we hug later. >> we do. >> like this. >> usually in the hot tub. >> i do like hot tubs. i think this is very clever, i'm a big fan of both of theirs, so if you can't make fun of yourself, then you've got no sense of humor. >> i'm feeling automat ining aww myself. >> as i explained, why did i cut it out? >> last but not least, toys "r" us as pulled the plug on that breaking bad action figure that sports a bag of meth in one hand and a wad of cash in the other, that's not sitting well with one of the stars, aaron paul treated, toys "r" us pulled all the breaking bad figures from the shelves but still sell barbie.

>> toy dolls for adult males. this is a modern concept, if you try to explain to a world war ii vet, would probably beat the crap out of you. you're a man who collects dolls? i have a bill o'reilly doll. >> where did you get this? >> i made it out of discarded squirrel fur. >> i think toys "r" us said they're temporarily pulling it. they may not -- >> all right, so i covered the story and basically they're saying this is marketed towards 15 years old and up. but still, how is it appropriate? they have a bunch of narcotics in a bag and cash? and they're glamorizing and glorifying drug daling? >> aaron paul plays jesse pinkman. he breaks your heart. his parents give him every opportunity to succeed, and he throws his life away, i they's

worse than barbie. >> there was another survey done that said that if people who buy barbie are less likely to get into colleges. two things that struck me about this, the idea of selling anything with drug paraphernalia, any story is horrible. but secondly how easy it is to get online and stop something. if you had to go out and get 8,500 petitions the old way, but you can go online and it's not that hard to get 8,000 signatures for anything. >> have you heard about divorce? >> yes. >> it's a joke, i'll tell you. >> the audience will love that. >> maybe we'll hear about it in the next block. >> the showdown will mr. chris christie.

i'm going to play this ridiculous remark from chris christie. >> i don't think there's a

mother or father sitting around the kitchen table in america saying you know, honey, if your song or daughter could just make a higher minimum wage, all our dreams would be realized. >> a lot of people don't sit around the table because they are making minimum wage and have to work two jobs. >> an entry level military personnel make $8.60 an hour. >> is that minimum wage? >> protesters want $10.10 an hour. president obama wants a minimum wage of $10.10. many food workers want $15 an hour. $.86 more an hour if you're getting shot by isis in syria. instead of worrying about the burger flippers worry about the milita

military. >> there needs to be a raise in military pay. >> i said raising military pay, forget the burger flippers. >> chris crihristie in his way tired of suggesting that the minimum wage is the panacea, and it's actually not the policy problem we should be trying to solve, the real cause is something people don't want to talk about which is the breakdown of marriage and the family and education and the soft bigotry of low expectations and you have mary deblasio. that's the issue he wants to talk about, it's not going to make a big difference when all of the costs in america are going up. all those costs because of regulations are going to eat up anything you would increase in your paycheck. >> all that being said, is that if you're running for president of the united states, christie with these off the cuff comments, and you're not going

to have much time to explain it after you have said it. >> it's not off the cuff, by the way. >> that's even worse. >> if you make eight slices bigger, then you have six slices for two people, then two people go hungry. when you raise the wage, you shrink the number of jobs, the minimum wage, these are facts, first run jobs for teens to get work experience. that's all it is. the percentage of primary heads of family that are on minimum wage is so low, i doubt you have a stat for it. so if you raise the wage, finally, final fact. mcdonald's will eliminate jobs through automation. >> in new jersey, they raised the minimum wage and not one

person lost their jobs. >> these are supposed to be entry level jobs and positions, the beginning of a career path, but not a career. >> bussing tables, at rubens and san mateo. >> when you put your order in, where does it go? >> yeah, why? >> because they're getting bad orders. >> because it's cheaper labor. >> so it's actually -- >> order takers are more -- >> people get increase in minimum wage? do the indians get an increase in minimum wage? >> that's is problem of running for president. one more thing is up next.

it's time for one more thing. we want to let you know that a story that we're following regarding a potential serial killer, remains of hanna graham have been identified by medical examiners. this is something that the family has been waiting for the results and the outcome of this, so our thoughts and prayers are with the family at this hour. now it's time for one more thing. >> i want to take a special

opportunity to honor a brave veteran and soldier who passed away as a true american hero whose service has spanned three decades. his name is sergeant major robert gallagher, and they called him bob gallagher, he parachuted into panama, served as a task force ranger in mogadishu, and fought on despite being wounded as task force third battalion made its way into baghdad in '93. we remember him tonight, and very proud as a country for his service. greg? all right, it's time for -- well, are you going to roll it or not? greg's medical tips. boy, somebody fell asleep. my medical tip today, if you want to live longer, don't assume old guys can't fight. roll it.

so the guy in the interesting cosby like sweater, his name is ernesto bergamasto, a cab driver, lives upstairs, borrows a lot of your milk, and the young guy's going, what the heck did i get into? and look at this guy, destroying him. and the young guy is going, what the heck just happened, which is the bill o'reilly segment i did tonight. just to you know, ee eknow. >>-it's been a long campaign season, this guy, the south carolina gubernatorial candidate is running 17 points behind nicky haley, i know he's tired at the end of a long race, look what he said today. >> she vetoed our public policy pay races the same year she gave her own staff 25% pay increases,

that is the worst kind of politics and we're going to escort her out the door. listen, you got to tell the truth. >> desperate democrats are demeaning the party. now, now it's time for -- here's why america's a great country, capitalism free markets allow to generate a ton of income. >> i don't go a chin, i got about two or three. >> so the bad news is, they just cancelled that show, because mama june was seen with a pedophile, the cancellation is real, for wasting a golden opportunity.

>> don't you think that little girl should just go away? have a great weekend, special report is next. thank you. this is a fox news alert, i'm brett baier in washington. at least two people are dead after a shooting incident at a public school, it happened at mar marysville, washington near seattle. >> reporter: begin shots rang out at 10:39 this morning in a cafeteria and the high school, about 30 miles north of seattle, at a scene being all too familiar. the school immediately placed on lockdown. schools hid under tables. witnesses say it was all over in