>> that was fast monday morning. i'll how was your weekend? martha: how was yours? we're look are ward now. have a great day, everybody. see you tomorrow jon: brand new developments this morning on ebola in the united states. with new details about the doctor under treatment for that deadly disease in new york city. the quarantine controversy is heating up. welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. >> i'm shannon bream in for jenna lee. the governor of new york just relaxed his state's quarantine policy, that folks that treated ebola patients in west africa could serve out their 21-day quarantines at home. that comes after a nurse in quarantine was released after speaking a week in isolation in tent. she said she had no symptoms and tested negative for the disease. she blasted the state's quarantine policy, that she was stated quote, like a criminal.

she has a lawyer threatening to take action. jon: the doctor who ignited this latest quarantine battle after he became sick with ebola after coming home to new york from west africa, that doctor is said to be looking better. we have team fox coverage of the story. doug mckelway live from washington with political fallout from the ebola crisis. we begin with rick leventhal outside bellevue hospital in new york city. rick? >> reporter: dr. craig spencer remains in serious but stable condition here at bellevue hospital. we're told he was doing better yesterday than on saturday after getting a blood transfusion from nancy writebol, the nurse who contracted ebola in africa and survived at emory hospital. this plasma treatment seen as effective way of battling the disease. bellevue dealing with another possible ebola patient a five-year-old boy was brought here along with his mother after the boy had temperature of 102.7 and other ebola-like symptoms. we're told he spent time in

guinea in west africa and just returned home on saturday along with his family. so the boy is now here in isolation. they're testing him for the virus. they should have test results early this afternoon. meanwhile his family remains in quarantine. we do have a significant update on that nurse in newark, kaci hickox, who was put in quarantine on friday after arriving friskier sear after treating -- from sierra leone after treating ebola patients. she was in a hospital in newark complaining loudly since then about her treatment suggesting it was inhumane, and prison-like conditions with no shower or flushable toilet. a short time ago the new jersey health department would release her and transport her by private carrier to maine where she is subject to that state's policies. new jersey says the mandatory 21-day quarantine for anyone with direct contact with ebola

patients. they said she was cared for in a advanced tenting system and recently toured and evaluated by cdc. while in isolation every effort was made to insure she was comfortable with access to computer, cell phone, reading material and nourishment of choice. hick cox will be sent whom. spencer is remains in isolation. we have another possible ebola patient being evaluated right now. jon? >> the arguing goes on. rick left towel outside bellevue hospital in new york city. thanks, rick. >> we have the politics of all the ebola quarantines in different states. let's go live to doug mckelway in washington. hi, doug. >> reporter: the case of this returning nurse, kaci hickox talks about a what is states rights over federal government about ebola quarantine. she hired a prominent civil rights attorney who says that the quarantine was violation of her civil rights. that view is reflective of the administration's protocols thus

far. >> we need to find a way when they come home that they're treated like conquering heroes not stigmatized for tremendous work they have done. >> reporter: that is a view expressed by a professor at global health in forge town university that told "new york times," quoting, i can't think of a situation where any jurisdiction in the united states in modern times assembly quarantined a whole class of people. some critics say that view is fascination with victim rights and recalling of any discrimination, a critics say is trumping public health. others like dr. anthony fauci, said quarantining would be counterproductive to conquering ebola. >> it is just an unintended consequence. if we don't have all people volunteering to bo over there, then you will have other countries are not going to do it and the epidemic will continue to roar. >> i have great respect for dr. fauci what is is counting on

voluntary system with folks who may or may not comply. we have a situation in new jersey, chris as you though h know with the nbc news crusade they would self-quarantine and two days later picking up take-out food in princeton and walking around the streets of princeton. >> reporter: fox news learned from several senior defense sources late last week the joint chiefs of staff recommended to defense secretary chuck hagel that all troops returning from west africa undergo a mandatory 21-day quarantine the same policy decision that the president is fighting in new york and new jersey. secretary hagel apparently not made a final decision on that as of yet. shannon, back to you. >> doug, thanks so much. jon: back to politics now. suspense growing in several midterm battles. take a look at the map. at least 10 senate races are now listed as too close to call. this as the campaigning heats up just about a week before election day. talk about with bret baier.

he is the anchor of "special report." bret, we heard for months that republicans are feeling good about their chances. they think they can take the senate. if that is the case why are things so tight in these 10 states? >> that's right, jon. listen, these democrats are frankly outperforming the president and the administration in these states. many of them voted for mitt romney in 2012. and these individual races are very tight. now, they have been trending a few points in most cases toward the republican but still within the margin of error. that's why you have that map with 10 toss-ups. that is much more than many other midterms in recent memory and, you have the possibility, like for example, in 2010 you had six, seven, rather, and six in 2008. now you have 10 toss-up states at this point in the election. and that makes for an interesting final eight days.

jon: yeah. my home state, colorado, is one of those 10. cory gardner has been up as i understand it in the last 10 polls. he is the republican challenger to the sitting senator mark udall. and last report, at least according to the "real clear politics" average, udall was up about three points. >> no. i think that -- jon: i'm sorry gardner. did i say udall? i meant barredder in. >> gardner is up three points. there is new tightening in the nbc marist poll that has it down to one. trending has gardner up three to four points depending on which poll. listen, we obsess about polls. one reason we look at average of recent polls, no one poll has it nailed down specifically exactly how it is going to be. we really don't know the variable in all of these races which is the ground game. the ability to get people out to polls in the midterm which is

challenging when it is not a presidential election. historically in colorado, for example, democrats have had a pretty good ground game operation. it is the reason that senator bennett won his senate seat. he overcame being down in the polls by turning out people who had never voted in midterms before. that is what democrats are hoping to replicate all across the country. jon: that starts in alaska. mark begich, the democratic senator there, has been down a couple of points in the polls but typically in alaska the ground game is everything and democrats do a very good job there. >> yeah. and it has been documented that the begich campaign spent a lot, as have democratic supporters and outside groups on the ground game there. but you counter that with republicans trying to improve their ground game since not really winning at that in 2012. and trying to move that forward. they probably haven't made up for the distance between the two parties but they have made some

ground in both high-tech and mobilizing people. that will be the test across the country. in a place like iowa where it is so close that it really will matter how many people actually get out to the polls. jon: take a look at kansas. that is also one of those very tight races. greg orman running as the independent candidate, very, very tight race with senator pat roberts. where is the momentum on that race, bret? >> roberts has closed the gap. orman in polls weeks ago was up about 10 points. now essentially tied. some polls have roberts up a couple of points. that has been a bombardment of ads from the republican senatorial campaign committee as well as outside republican groups. you have senator rand paul heading to kansas to campaign for roberts. i think you've seen a lot of republican focus on kansas. we'll see how it turns out a week from now. jon: will be a busy week.

bret baier, host of "special report." bret, thank you. >> we'll see you. >> tragic update to that horrific school shooting in washington state. a second female student shot in friday's rampage has died. the 14-year-old was among four students hit when the steen age gunman opened fire inside of the school cafeteria. adam housley live at the west coast bureau with more on the story. >> reporter: shannon, continued sad news coming out of the area north of seattle. as you mentioned on friday the gunman was killed. a question how that happened. a 14-year-old girl, they were two the original victims on friday. now yesterday we have been told, gia soriano, 14 years old, she died. she was in the cafeteria on friday. her parents were told, have donated her organs. very sad time. her friends say she was nothing but a smiley 14-year-old girl who was very well-liked in marysville, washington. two other boys at harborview medical center.

14-year-old, 15-year-old they remain in intensive care. they were both related to the gunman. another girl at providence regional medical center, she is in critical condition as well. as for soriano's family they're completely and heartbroken about this and released a statement through a doctor at the hospital. >> we're devastated by this senseless tragedy. gia is our beautiful daughter and words can not express how much we will miss her. >> reporter: earlier on sunday parents, teachers, students, neighbors, they gathered at gymnasium at the school for community meeting. speakers urging support and prayers. playing drums and songs. a lot of people, very, very upset. and they really urged everybody to come together on sunday. >> we're grieving really hard right now. keep them in your prayer, please.

>> and our children. >> reporter: there are still questions, shannon about motivation as part of this investigation. there is also some talk about a teacher who was a first-year teacher there in nearby office. she ran into the cafeteria. a couple of different stories of heroism on that day still talked about as well. but right now everybody of course is with the families who have lost loved ones and three students who are still in critical condition in washington hospitals. shannon. >> adam, thank you very much for keeping us updated. jon: we're also getting new details about last week's shooting rampage in canada. this is the surveillance video showing the gunman running into the parliament building and across parliament hill during his shooting spree. now police are saying prior to the attack the gunman made a video of himself which shows he was quote, driven by idealogical and political motives. that tape has not been publicly released yet. the gunman seen here, fatally shot a soldier guarding the

national war memorial before storming the parliament and where he was shot dead by the sergeant-at-arms. >> it's a raging battle more than a month. kurdish fighters battling for control of the syrian town of kobani. the latest in the war in syria and iraq. gas prices are dropping for consumers with the stock market hitting more bumps with the fed ending its money printing. we want to hear from you. do you agree with a mandatory 21-day quarantine for people that come in contact with ebola patients? go to foxnews.com/happeningnow. click on "america's asking" to join that conversation.we st ins. we're helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform tomorrow.

jon: right now a university hazing trial begins today in florida. nearly three years after a drum major robert champion died after he had been beaten by fellow band members. police say he was forced to participate in a florida a&m marching band hazing rid all.

afterward champion complained about trouble breathing. he later collapsed. today four members of the band are in court. they are charged with felony hazing and manslaughter. their trial expected to last up to two weeks. shannon: may be some progress in the fight against isis. iraqi forces taking back four villages yesterday captured by sunni insurgents as battle for the syrian town kobani continues conor powell is live in the middle east bureau with more on you all of that. >> reporter: earlier this summer the world watched as isis expanded territory with lightning speed. now that expansion seems to be slowed if not actually reversed in iraq. iraqi officials saying their soldiers along with shia militiamen managed to push isis out of several towns around iraq's capital, baghdad. if they hold these areas, which is a big if, this would be a

rare victory for the iraqi security forces who continue to struggle to battle isis the further it moves away from iraq's capitol. this comes as the u.s. military says it continues to launch airstrikes north and west of baghdad over the weekend. now the pentagon saying it destroyed several isis units along with their armored vehicles. really the world continues to watch kobani. the syrian town remains a deadly center of the fight against isis. isis fighters have been trying to take this kurdish town for really last month or some but against all odds, the kurdish fighters really held on. but, kurdish officials say that isis has begun bringing in reinforcements and battle is escalating in the last few days. now kurdish officials are hoping and asking international community for more weapons, bigger weapons, more powerful weapons. the u.s. and coalition that is supporting them of course dropped some small arms, some conventional weapons like aks and ammunition but so far there

is no effort to get them bigger, more powerful weapons the kurds are asking for. that the kurdish officials say would turn the fight. they would be able to defeat isis once and for all in kobani. but that fighting escalating, getting more bloody and violent and kurds asking for more help now. whether or not the international community with the united states are going to give more weapons, that seems very unlikely. the sort of attitude according to kurdish officials has been they will give some weapons but not the really powerful weapons out of fear that it could fall into the hand of isis if the kurds don't prevail there. shannon? shannon: always a potential complication. conor, thank you very much. jon: wild weather making a mess of things out west where wind near hurricane strength are knocking down tree, ripping down power lines as well. plus we're going to take you to hawaii. danger there as fiery lava comes closer and closer to homes. we're live with that story. new video emerges in the

ottawa terror attacks. what investigators are learning from it and the role isis plays in lone wolf-style attacks. we will go in depth.

jon: a fox extreme weather alert for you on this monday morning. high wind ripping through the northwest, leaving thousands without power. now another storm just around the corner. and hawaii's big island prepares for the worst with molten lava threatening hundreds of homes. maria molina live in the fox extreme weather center with the latest on that. maria? >> hi, jon. good to see you. hello, everyone. i want to start out with the story out of hawaii and show you incredible images coming out of the big island where dozens of people are on alert there. we don't have mandatory

evacuations right now but that could be changing as the lava flow continues to flow out there and it advanced 250 yards since saturday morning. this is the same region that earlier this year was hit by tropical storm ezell. this area has looked at extreme weather and looking at a different type of earth-like weather condition or extreme condition. that is the lava from continuing to impact them and flowing about 10 to 15 yards per hour. so that an extreme situation coming out of the big island of hawaii. we'll continue to monitor that situation but i want to switch gears now and take you to the pacific northwest. we had extreme weather over the weekend impacting this region with very strong wind gusts and heavy rain and higher elevations out here looking at snowfall. now we have our next storm system moving on in. you see clouds moving in across portions of washington state and in oregon and areas of rain and several inches of rain are forecast out here. as muchs a two, three, locally, even four inches of rain along

lower elevations this could be issue for localized flash flooding. we saw extreme weather last week and now that train continues out there. the one bit of good news across portions of northern california, parts of oregon, we do have extreme drought conditions. we really need the moisture in portions of oregon are going to see some of that and also dry conditions across washington state. again, jon, this this storm sysm bringing in extreme weather in terms of strong wind we don't want to see but we need the rainfall so that is welcome news. jon: i guess when you got your meteorology degree you didn't do a lot of volcano forecasting? >> not a lot of volcano forecasting. you can't forecast. that it keeps coming out. jon: gravity doing its work unfortunately for the residents there. maria molina, thank you. >> thank you. >> right now, investigators are in canada, analyzing a video made by it gunman behind a terror attack at the war memorial and parliament.

the video made before the shooting rampage and police say it shows the attack was driven by quote, idealogical and political motives. this attack as well as the one in new york city raising new fears about lone wolf style terrorists and how isis is fostering that kind of homegrown attack. joining a man with vast military experience with deep knowledge of iraq. retired lieutenant bill cowan made 20 trips to iraq and seven were during the iraq war. founding member of intelligence support activity, pentagon's most classified special mission unit. on top of that we're blessed to have him as fox news military analyst. good to see you today, sir. >> thank you, shannon. nice to be with you. >> talk about the lone involves. there are some different groups but isis the main one in the headlines these days. we understand they want to recruit people to take up arms to join them in syria. they're happy to have lone wolves around the globe, people they don't have to spend a dime

on but the ideology clicks with these people and they act on their own and can still wreak havoc. >> absolutely, shannon. they put out a call for lone wolfs to do thing. like you said, a lone wolf doesn't have to go to syria, can be totally inspired, agitated by social media on the web and isis postings on the web and films of isis victories, islamic jihad. isis is capable and effective. i dare say the recent attacks are start of a lot of attacks we'll see over a period of time. shannon: there is new york police department source quoted saying the man who carried out hatchet attack on officers last week was shot and killed that he was watching violent videos with things like beheadings, in times leading up to his attack, even though the investigation is far from over would lead to us think he may be one of these lone wolf actors as well. how in the world do you track these people? i got to imagine it is

impossible to attract -- track every social media account and computer traffic and something as americans with the fourth amendment we don't want everything we do to be tracked so how do you find that balance? >> this is a very tough question, shannon. one thing we can immediately shut down here in the united states, shut down those websites inciting violence, that isis is backing. they can move from one website to another very quickly. we'll have to look at whole new realm what our government is allowed to do in terms of monitoring people, particularly monitoring people looking at jihadist websites, who are being inspired, who have the potential of becoming bad guys. we'll have to find a way to monitor everybody that is looking at these sites, how much time are they spending there, what pages are they looking. we understand some people will look out of curiosity but others look at major nidal hasan, the fort hood shooter, a good example of somebody who was radicalized on the web and took out his anger and hate against

americans. a lot of people will be predisposed to do things like that. we'll have to look at new innovative ways of identifying them long before they go to violence. shannon: lieutenant colonel bill cowan, always good to see you. thank you for your service and your time as well. >> thank you, shannon. jon: what voters in one state are considering regarding the hot button issue of abortion and the impact their decision could have nationwide. former white house spokesman jay carney's new revelation about president obama that might support critics who say the president is out of up to. we'll tell you what he said coming up. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility? you may think you can put off checking out your medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to get the ball rolling. keep in mind, medicare only covers about eighty percent of part b medical costs. the rest is up to you.

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jon: still to come on this hour of "happening now." he had a long rap sheet so how did the suspect in the california police killings manage to fly under the radar? gas prices are way down, you probably know at record lows but there are still new fears about the stock market. we'll go in depth. plus a lot of action in outer space as we await the launch of a new rocket. we'll tell you about that. shannon: a controversial measure pitting pro-choice against pro-life activists is back on the ballot in colorado. the so-called personhood amendment seeks to change the legal definition after human to the unborn. it would make it a crime for anyone to harm an unborn child. alicia acuna is live in denver with this very interesting story. alicia. >> shannon, this latest push comes after a woman eight months

pregnant was hit by a drunk driver in 2012 and her unborn child died and no charges with filed for his death. amendment 67 would change the colorado constitution by quote, protecting pregnant women and unborn children by defining person and child in the colorado criminal code and the colorado wrongful death act to include unborn human beingings. >> we've seen it a few times in the past. it has gone down to overwhelming defeat on past occasions. >> reporter: opponents say amendment 67 is another thinly-veiled attempt to ban all abortions. >> including in cases of rape, incest or when health of mother is in danger. >> reporter: they say changing the state constitution is unnecessary since colorado passed a law last year criminalizing the unlawful termination of a pregnancy. >> when you apply that new definition to the criminal code, and the wrongful death statute, you end up making criminals out of women and their doctors. >> well, it could be.

i mean you know, if an unborn chd is a person. >> reporter: biggest impact of the so-called personhood amendment could be on the u.s. senate race between incumbent democrat mark udall and challenge republican cory gardner. he backed previous personhood measures something udall won't let people forget. >> colorado women are paying attention. gardner believes in personhood. >> if he end up chasing senate race, you might trace it back to one word and that word might be personhood. >> reporter: polling shows this measure is not popular by a wide march begin in colorado. >> alicia, thank you. jon: it has been a busy few months here on cable news with americans facing major concerns from isis to the economy to ebola. but president obama is apparently not tuning in. former press secretary jay carney says the president does not watch cable news. talk about with dan henninger,

deputy editorial page writer for "the wall street journal" juan williams is a fox news contributor and joins us as well. daniel, jay carney says the president is a voracious consumer of the printed word. we didn't see "the wall street journal" in his list of favor reading but, supposedly he readsds printed stuff. he just doesn't want cable news. what do you think. >> well i think that is probably a mistake, jon. you know, jay carney should know, remember he was the press secretary during the infamous rollout of obamacare and mr. carney stood there for days if not weeks on end, saying it was merely glitches going pretty much the way they expected. the problem with these big major crises like ebola, obamacare, or islamic state is that i think by not looking at what is being reported on cable television, the president has no real sense of the way the public is reacting to it. newspapers do a good job in these cases but by and large they're simply reporting the

news. cable, nonetheless, holds kind of mirror up to the reality of these crises and give you a sense what the public expects. the president's problem has been that he has been kind of construed as reacting to crises, like islamic state. got in there after two beheadings, with ebola he is reacting to the crisis there ultimately appointing an ebola czar and the sense that he reacts to these crises rather than starts to get at them in the begin something why i think his presidency is in trouble. and you know he doesn't have to watch cable television all the time but when these big events happen, if he tuned in he would have a better sense what people expect from their government. jon: let me read for you, juan, some of jay carney's quote, talking about the president. he says he doesn't hyperventilate about the political crisis of the moment. he takes the long view. he is very cool-tempered, suggesting that the president is above the fray of, you know, the daily scrum i guess we get into on cable news.

daniel says that might be a mistake. what do you think. >> no, i think that is probably a wise choice for any president of either party but i think what you're seeing there is i think the president's disposition which is, as people describe it something negatively, cool. that what he said to jay carney was you know what? don't get caught up in the day-to-day ups and downs and you know, breaking news alerts and all that. the kind of stuff that we in cable news use i think to draw viewers in on a daily basis. i think the president and leaders of all stripe as i have just said should be in fact taking the longer view, having to look at things. they have far more information in the immediate sense than we do. so i think that he is reading the papers. i bet he is reading "the wall street journal" but what you see is that people who actually have to make these calls, shouldn't be reacting because of the latest item that is breaking on top of a cable news heap. jon: and yet, daniel, he has mentioned fox news, i mean he

has called us out many times in his public pronouncements saying you probably got that from fox news or something. he has been very critical of this medium and our channel in particular. if he is not watching why does he care? >> well, true enough, jon. you have the idea out there that some of the cable channels do have biases one way or the other. i'm trying to argue that in the event of these big crises like the veterans administration hospitals or even the secret service, certainly development of islamic state, i think you can throw all the bias issues out the window. by and large cable, whatever station tried very hard to chase the news. in the same way that the newspapers are chasing the news. they're trying to convey to people some understanding of what is going on. the president famously does not like to interact with people. he doesn't call up politicians on the phone to get their view of things. he is kind of his own best

advisor and i think as a result he gets sort of a distorted sense of the way the national mood is going on these events and what they expect of their president. there has to be a reason, jon, why his approval rating in handling of economy or foreign affairs is down so far. it is not merely that he is taking the long view. it is that the public feel he is addressing these crises when they need to be addressed. jon: yeah. juan, there was another leader who is said to said let them eat cake when things were going the wrong direction in her country. i mean, is that, i mean, should the president be tuning in and paying more attention to the crises of the moment? >> well, i think he has to be aware of them but i disagree with daniel. i in fact people who read the papers and read them in greater depth may have more information than we're able to give them in the short time frame available to us in the television medium. i mean we do shorter segments.

people can read in greater depth. according to jay carney, the president is reading, to quote you, jon, voraciously in terms of print consumption and part of that diet would include reports what is coming across in cable. so i think in fact what you have here is a situation where i think he should sample it because cable is part of the american media diet but, as, we have been discussing, a lot of the cable stuff comes out in terms of personality-driven presentation, infotainment. a lot of it is sensational at times, plays to emotions and fears. i don't know if he needs to get caught up in that if he is supposed to guide us as leader of the society. jon: juan williams, daniel henninger, thank you both. >> you're welcome, jon. shannon: exciting day at nasa. what is taking place more than 200 miles over our heads? we'll have details. gas prices at record lows but with the market volatility lately is now the right time to invest in stocks?

we'll find out coming up

shannon: let's check out ahead what is on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. jedediah, harris what do you have this monday morning? >> we can't wait. hello, everybody. the growing debate over ebola guidelines becoming a showdown between states and feds. is a lack of leadership from the white house to blame? >> eight days before the critical midterms. new polls may spell a lot of trouble for democrats locked in tight senate races. >> eight days away. imagine making the football play of your life. intercepting the ball, running all the way back for the touchdown except for your team is fined $500 and your coach gets suspended because you made the play? the cruel lesson for a group of 8-year-old kids all in the name of fair play? >> i don't know how fair that is #oneluckyguy on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. shannon: i love it you ladies will be talking football.

>> oh, yeah. shannon: we'll see you soon. jon: there is this. big day in space today. nasa showing off the departure of an unmanned russian cargo ship, leaving international space station. the iss progress 56 got up to space in july. it was undergoing several weeks of tests. it will embark on its new mission back to the earth's atmosphere. later this week another ship is set to head for the space station to bring food, fuel, and supplies for the station. shannon: turning to wall street now, with gas prices at record lows and earnings up, some investors still question whether to jump back into the market or to hold off amid fears of the big correction. joining us from our sister network, fox business senior correspondent charles gasparino. good to have you here today. explain the gas pricing and what does it mean? >> fracking, one word. we had massive increase in supply of oil and natural gas because of fracking. and it is sending gas prices lower. you know, it is nothing the

obama administration did, i can tell you that. this is all done on private land. not on public lands. but it is basically helping to put opec out of business. and listen, you don't want gas prices to fall to zero because there is an economy based on some level of gas prices being at certain range but, you know this is about supply. there is some talk some of these gas price is going down because the economy may be slowing. there is some of that in here. we really don't know. how do you translate into investable? i can't tell you. nobody knows exactly where the market is going. i can tell you this, the fed will start tapering, stop, slow down its money printing. interest rates on fed funds rate, the base rate that fed charges banks and every other interest rate set off that, set to go up next year. this is real confusing time in the markets. naturally that would mean, that the stock market will sell off, but, if corporate prices, corporate profits keep going up

that's a good thing. i would tell this, because i gave you a very confusing scenario. do nothing. shannon: just hold? >> i would hold steady see where the market is going. if the economy weakens enough, if it does weaken, economic cycles generally last seven years. we're into that 7th year. i think fed will start printing money again. that is time to buy the market. just look for direction now. that means sit on your rear end, do nothing, watch fox business. we'll tell you what to do. shannon: non-stop. go over to fox news. >> yeah. shannon: you have mentioned interest rates. doing potential house hunting, maybe you get in on that before rates go up? >> time to bought a house and get a mortgage and get one banks are still pretty tight. shannon: they are very tight. >> would have been last week, not next week. shannon: i need a time machine? >> interest rates will go up, they're signaling up. unless the economy slows, they're not going to go up. i would, i would lock in to that

now. shannon: how much does news affect things? we've seen so much fluctuation, volatility lately. talk about ebola. hear of a new case and markets don't seem to like that. >> you know, listen we were the first to identify ebola as market trading headline. i think, little too much is made out of it. here's the thing, if people that are supposed to get ebola, meaning health care worker, somebody exposed to it directly, you will see the markets trade off that but it won't be cataclysmic. if somebody, if this should ever happen, someone on a subway and contracts ebola then markets will crash. why is that? you start thinking and people start -- shannon: worst-case scenario. >> worst-case scenario. they won't take subways or going to movie theaters. there will be economic impact. that is what you have to worry about. just fluctuating off, god forbid a doctor has gotten it. market looks at someone dealt with bowl bow patients. shannon: not unexpected. >> not a black swan. coming out of nowhere.

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in california and hundreds of counties nationwide, the 34-year-old accused cop killer was deported in 1997 for selling drugs and deported again in 2001. but under current sanctuary policies police would not deport him because those previous crimes were not serious enough. so he was to do what he wanted, where he wanted. friday in sacramento he shot and killed one deputy, fled, hijack ad car, shot the driver and killed a detective and wound ad deputy. police flushed him out of a nearby home with tear gas. police say he killed deputy danny oliver, 15 year veteran of the force, leaves behind a wife and two children and detective michael davis, father of four, whose father was killed in the line of duty exactly 26 years ago. >> hear a report that this potential suspect from the sacramento shooting would run away, they run to it and paid ultimate sacrifice. >> this is another failure and

breakdown in terms of immigration and that is horribly unfortunate. >> marques, who goes by the that many of bracamonte. some cases they don't deport them anymore because they haven't been convicted of serious crimes. this year, states released 9,000 criminal aliens, kidnappers, burglars, drug dealers, because policies prohibit them helping the feds. jon: unbelievable. william la jeunesse. thank you, william. >> here is what we're working on second hour of "happening now." molten lava from a volcano threatening the big island of hawaii. we'll bring you details. new details on the terrorist that killed a canadian soldier with more concern about lone wolf attackers here in the u.s. our live chat is up and running. we want to hear from you. go to foxnews.com/happeningnow. click on "america's asking" and you can join the conversation. b? ah, the usual.

moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern.

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>> looking forward to that. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, we welcome to the couch for the first time, former nypd homicide detective bo dietl and he's outnumbered. >> thank you for inviting me. i do carry. >> i should say former nyc, nypd homicide detective among other things. >> i do a couple of other things. >> movie star? >> well -- >> you're in commercials. >> arby's. they threw me off. they got me two years and now somebody is saying, meat, we got the meat and you see a sandwich. i was at least there saying something else about the sandwich. >> i love that. >> lunch