>> looking forward to that. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, we welcome to the couch for the first time, former nypd homicide detective bo dietl and he's outnumbered. >> thank you for inviting me. i do carry. >> i should say former nyc, nypd homicide detective among other things. >> i do a couple of other things. >> movie star? >> well -- >> you're in commercials. >> arby's. they threw me off. they got me two years and now somebody is saying, meat, we got the meat and you see a sandwich. i was at least there saying something else about the sandwich. >> i love that. >> lunch time, you're making

everybody hungry. we're excited to have you on. >> i'm excited to be on the show. i watch it when i'm in my office. i pop you guys on. >> we feel safer with you here. >> i feel safe here, too, being around you ladies. >> ebola guidelines widening and now it's a showdown between the states and the federal government as the white house is reportedly pressuring the governors of new york and new jersey to reverse their 21-day mandatory quarantine of medical workers returning from the ebola hot zones in west africa. this as two other states, florida examine illinois, impose quarantine measures. new york's democratic governor appears to have caved in when he said at a news conference last night that the quarantine can be done at home. but cuomo denies he's bowing to pressure from the administration. >> i've in none. and also remember, the cdc will eventually come up with their

protocols. that is their advisory protocols and it's totally in the state's authority to implement what that state thinks is appropriate in their particular case. >> but new jersey's republican governor, chris christie, defending his state's mandatory quarantine of the nurse kept in an isolation tent for two days before she was given clearance to board a charter flight home to maine earlier today. she had complained her quarantine was inhumane and threatened legal action. his answer to that. >> i understand she's uncomfortable and i understand that she doesn't want to be quarantined but my responsibility, my greater responsibility, is the 8.9 million people of the state of new jersey. >> meantime, leading republican on capitol hill, congressman isa said that what the governors are doing is the direct result of the lack of leadership on ebola coming out of the administration.

>> governors of both parties are reacting because there isn't a trust in the leadership of this administration. getting that back is doable, it's our responsibility to do it but it's also our responsibility now to second-guess at our level the things that are said to us to make sure the american people do have watchdogs. >> i saw you nodding your head. is he right? >> i agree with the congressman there and do you know what? what do we know? we have lack of leadership in washington. people don't know what to do. is it airborne? they say it's not. would you eat off the fork of one of those people coming back from west africa? >> no. >> they're telling you they're not infected. i don't think they understand yet. until we know what we have, what we're dealing with, i'm for the home quarantine but also health people checking two times a day to make sure the fever is not rising. we have to capsulize it. if they went, oops, it's air

born, now people travelling all around, what do we have? a real epidemic. >> we kind of fear there's going to be a change develop. you know, consensus among medical professionals how it's contracted because people are getting it when they're following the guidelines in many cases. so is this about a lack of trust from washington or something else? >> well, i think it's a lot of things. i think one, we see that everything they've told us out of washington has proved to be false. it's like the murphy's law of ebola. everything that can and will go wrong, will go wrong. look. this disproportionately affects health care workers so if we're not going to quarantine health care workers, who are we going to quarantine? the temperature tests at j.f.k. are not working. >> did you watch "60 minutes?" she went through everything she's supposed to but they caught it. i don't think anyone knows yet. until we know we've what got, we

have to capsulize it and take charge. if you let it go, now you have a guy on bways, bowling, eating at the meatball shop. who knows where -- >> she's very active on twitter and i think i saw you tweet this out last night. you said you're not sure of any medical professional that volunteers their life and their time to treating ebola patients in west africa who isn't willing to quarantine there before coming here. >> i don't understand it. it wouldn't be a problem for me if i was doing it. it's an obvious risk. this is the united states of america, though. i mean, the quarantine they're describing, i don't know that you have to quarantine people without a shower, without a portable toilet. you can provide basic necessities during the 21-day period. i don't think that's a problem but the governors are doing what they have to do because the people in their states are nervous. they're getting all of this mixed messaging from the administration. they're concerned, the governors are now doing the job that the federal government should be doing and the federal government is saying, no. you're doing it wrong.

they're responding to the people that are doing it right. >> rather than thanking the governors for stepping up and say we appreciate what you're doing, we got this, we want to work with you on this. there was this warning, if you will, about unintended consequences for moving forward that was released in a statement from the white house yesterday as we were chasing the story for fox report. i don't know if it's governor keem cuomo or me having an out of body sherns b-- experience bt i was watching when he said these words. this was a doctor and even he didn't follow the guidelines, guy who tested positive for ebola. governor cuomo went on to say, it's too serious of a situation to leave it to the honor system. >> no kidding. >> flip to last night. let me finish. he said, not only does he want to back down, sandra, or back away from that quarantine. he said they should be able to remain at home and receive compensation for a lost income. if the white house didn't put the fear of goodness into him,

right, what did it? i'm really curious to know. i'm not having an out of body experience. i'm right here. it must be him. >> she attacked governor christie by saying he doesn't have a medical degree but to your point, dr. craig spencer had a medical degree and look how he handled it. >> he went bowling. got sweaty for three miles, rode a subway and ended up in the hospital. >> give them an incentive to be home. if they're going to give the cdc workers over $50 million in bonuses, give them an incentive to stay home. how about just watch "outnumbered" for three weeks? i don't see what the problem is, nurse. midterms are just one week from tomorrow. a critical vote that will decide the balance of power in congress and right now, democrats are facing their highest disapproval rating in 20 years. a new "the washington post," abc news poll finding 67% of americans disapproved of the job congressional democrats are doing. 30% approve. that same poll finds 72% disapprove of the job republicans are doing.

25% approve. okay. so 20% -- or 20 years lowest disapproval rating we've ever seen. ebola, isis, all of this, lack of leadership? what is it? >> and also health care. let's face it. we had a health care bill that was thrown down, stuffed down our throats. my big thing and i talked to congressman king the other day about this. this is the republicans and democrats in the house and the senate. we have a bill there but let's fine tune it. when i hear from somebody who is 67 years of ages that they have a high p.s.a. level and they can't go for the next check because they were told you're over 65, we're not insuring you for that test, i have a real problem. when you're over 65, you're supposed to just die? let's get congress to reevaluate this thing and let's fix it. we can't repeal it. let's fix the garbage. jopt an insurance company telling me they're not going to approve me to have a heart examination because it was within six months' guidelines. my problem here is the insurance

companies are jacking their rates up. why isn't congress getting all over these insurance companies saying, you can't keep blaming a farmer? the rates are the same ones i'm paying and i want my same doctor. i can't have them. i have to get another doctor. this is ridiculous. this is why people are angry with congress, on the republican side and the democrat. get something done. >> they are, sandra, talking about health care but not talking about obamacare. over the weekend. debbie made her weekend round on the sunday shows talking about the war on women and contraception and all of that stuff and when she was asked what the message is, is it from the democrats ebola, isis? here was her response. take a listen. >> we've heard this in previous elections to extreme, to extreme, their tea party, you can't work them so it seems that the democrats overall message is, yeah, isis is scary. yeah, ebola is scary but republicans are scarier. >> that's right.

>> that's right. ebola is very scary but sandra, republicans are scarier? is this just speration? >> that display was scary in itself. >> i ran for united states congress in 1986 and then my father ended up dying and all of that and i said, before i vote for $3 billion submarine, i vote for national health care for people over 65. they've been paying their whole lives. why do they have to choose between food or medicine? congress just start doing their damn job. the republicans and the democrats are the same. >> you haven't mentioned yet is the employment situation in this country right now and when you talk to the average american, they're not feeling better about the economic environment in which we live. this has been an administration that has not been friendly to business to the point where in a few minutes, we'll talk about some pretty harsh comments on business and employment in this country from hillary clinton.

so i think that's going to be just a huge thing. people care about their pocketbooks first and foremost. >> who is better off? the hedge fund friends of mine. >> hold on, bo. >> i want to know who is writing crowley's questions. i know it's focused on her but that was sort of a softball lob across the net, can you hit it back to me so i can hit it back to you type question. you know, she didn't give her a whole lot of choices except for what the end of the question was, which was interesting. >> that's right? she didn't have to but that's what they do. that's what -- it's a lot of talking points. that's her job, to get up there and say those kinds of things. the problem here is that you have a 30% approval rate for democrats. you have a 25% approval rate for republicans so those people that are disheartened with democrats, the question is, are they going to go to the republican party? do they feel they have a reason to go over? to dissuade the people we've

been talking about to say the g.o.p. has a better solution and a better long term approach for me. >> do they even have to worry about that, though? >> they do long term. >> long term perhaps. >> yes. hit the nail on the head is the question. isis, even oel arcs leadership failures across the board and i think that's why we're seeing the poll we saw. the lone wolves, radical terrorists acting on their own, including this hatchet attack right here in new york city. is social media and the internet making the problem worse? and inspiring more attacks? bo has a lot of thoughts on that. a federal law designed to catch drug traffickers and terrorists now used to seize the bank accounts of regular, innocent americans. you cannot miss this story. it's huge. no warrant, no criminal charges. they can just take your money. we'll tell you how the i.r.s. has been getting away with this and right after the show, catch more from the couch, on the web. join us for "outnumbered" overtime by logging on to fox

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africa for 21 days. the army has just issued this. these are its own guidelines ordering troops coming back from west africa to go to 21-day isolation and again, this is just at the arm question level. the decision was not made by the defense secretary and this is not currently the policy of the pentagon but now this decision by the army. all those returning from west africa, isolation 21 days. >> and you're watching "outnumbered." we're glad you are. radicalism is inciting teconcer about the hatchet attack against police officers in new york city. it's an act of homegrown terror. in canada we were wall to wall with coverage last week. they had two incidents last week. the ottawa shooting that left a canadian soldier dead. and here is senate intelligence committee chairwoman dianne

feinstein. >> i think it's one big problem. i think one of the problems is that the internet as well as certain specific muslim extremists are really firing up this lone wolf phenomenon and these attacks and the multiplicity of attacks in 2014 show that their propaganda is having some effect. >> and house homeland security chairman says last week's attacks show how powerful the islamic state's influence is online. >> isis travelling overseas from syria to the united states but i think one of the greatest fears are those already within the united states who are being radicalized and inspired by the isis propaganda that's out there on the internet. they are waging a campaign of war against the west and the united states and these are three examples. just last week of where they're

winning. >> isis, no matter who you call these guys, they're recruiters and they want to recruit more. it will be difficult to see where the people are, track them or maybe not? >> you know, take new york city which will be the target again. we have a mayor, a socialist mayor that come in now and they're defunding the intelligence budget. do you know if there's offices out there on patrol and they stop someone for acting suspiciously, i'm sorry to use profiling. two arabic guys acting suspiciously, they cannot keep an intelligence report on that. the police department is now not allowed to keep intelligence report. instead of us activating, gathering more intelligence so we can maybe overt the next disaster from happening, we're going the other way. even in the federal government,

we should be monitoring sites. >> why is that not happening? >> the guy in the white house and then you have a mayor like we have in new york city and what's happening now is when the thing happens again, everyone is going to be pointing fingers. maybe the cops out on patrol were able to do stop and frisk without being called upon, maybe they would toss them down the hatchet before he chopped that poor kid in the head and then hesitated. they were yelling, put the ax down. put the ax down. he swung and hit one guy in the arm and then swung at the other and then put the ax in the child's head. why didn't they shoot? they're hesitating. when you get hesitation -- >> why are they hesitating? >> because of the policy of the police department. the guy in the staten island took him down in a head lock. my feelings go to his family. if you condemn every cop from taking action, they don't want

to do anything >> if you look at canada and the suspect there at the tomb of the unknowns and then parliament in ottawa, canada, he had plenty of red flags. these guys always do, it seems. but we live in a society where you can't punish people for their thoughts so what do we do? >> i was just going to ask bo, because you mentioned social media, when you apprehend the suspects and talk about the facebook pages, they say he had a history of posting these types of videos like the brothers in boston. bo, what are the police doing to monitor these guys? are they doing enough or as you point out, are their rights being ham strung? are their resources being ham strung? in new york they throttled back on the eavesdropping and buying into mosques and stop and frisk. >> when you can't go and monitor a radical mosque and they say you can't do it anymore, that's where they're festering from. when you have an appear and he will google put safeguards in

there where law enforcement can't even breach their security, i have a problem. you have to get up to have a freedom, you have to give up some of your privacy. i'm willing -- go check my computer. >> the other hard part is how much of this responsibility lies in the muslim community because this guy up in canada and there have been others kicked out of mosques which is a bold step in the muslim community already because there might be backlash for even just that bold step but why not have the leaders then tip off local law enforce many. it puts on a lot of responsibility. >> anybody on the internet talking about taking down the government or doing something violent, that's a conspiracy. i'm not a lawyer but i'll tell you, i know enough about a conspiracy. if you conspire today to do a bank robbery, that's conspiracy. >> you agree with the homeland security secretary in saying he said specifically that these lone wolf attacks are the biggest threat to our homeland security? >> what worries me is the ones

we don't know about. let's minimize that down. we have to minimize. we have to know what the threat is. >> and the internet will be key. that seems to be a place where there are a lot of privacy concerns. you have to balance those. >> people buying drugs, kids on the internet, we were able to identify the i.p. addresses and shut them down. they have the technology. let's use the damn technology. >> all right. let's move on. i'm sure we'll come back to this. it doesn't matter if you commit a crime or not. the i.r.s. can seize your bank account and take your cash as a new report details how the feds are freezing bank accounts when the deposits are too small. we'll explain. many people questioning whether hillary clinton is out of touch after she's told a campaign crowd that businesses and corporations actually don't create jobs and that she has the math to prove it.

>> welcome back to "outnumbered." hillary clinton headlining a rally for martha cokely in boston and getting serious scrutiny for some comments about job creation. let's listen. >> don't let anybody tell you that, you know accidentist corporations and businesses that create jobs. you know that old theory, trickle down economics. that has been tried, that has failed. it has failed rather

spectacularly. >> she also defended the minimum wage saying that raising it will not kill jobs. your face while she was making those comments was just -- you seem frustrated. >> but we need you to respond because that's what you're paid to do and tell me this, sandra. tell me this. that company working on the ebola vaccine, they're not really creating any jobs. is that what she's saying? >> doesn't this bring back all the you didn't build that comments from 2012? look. i'm going to challenge you on that one. republicans tried to run with that as a theme during his re-election campaign and that wasn't effective. what she just said was factually incorrect. small businesses, more so even than corporations, when you talk about businesses, small businesses, companies with less than 50 employees are the engine of growth for the u.s. economy. they hire more than corporations in this country. it was just -- >> don't you think that was by design, though? think about it.

think about where she is. >> i'm a small business owner. i have approximately 600 people, security guards that work for me. she's a disgrace. she was a disgrace when she said she had no money and she was poor and here we go again. when you've got tanks that are lending money for all kinds of tricks they want to do but yet when small businesses want to borrow money, banks are borrowing 25 basis point. why not let that money be lent to small businesses so i could get more jobs? there's going to be 600 families not going to be able to -- >> think about where she was. massachusetts, elizabeth warren, she's trying to outflank her on the left in that particular state. this was a strategic political move by hillary clinton. >> and the only thing that hillary clinton is impressed about today is the fact we're talking about hillary clinton. >> christie starting to look good compared to her. >> i think it's interesting she's picking up on the economy

in the home state of elizabeth warren and i have to ask you, politics not coincidental. >> she's not talking to massachusetts. she's talking to the entire country. everything she says right now as a potential candidate is getting played for everyone. people just heard what is inflating, a dumb, stupid, id t idiotic statement. someone on her time is going to have to scurry to make sense of that nonsense and she's also a terrible candidates. every time we go to cover her, she says stuff like this. this will continue. >> i hope the comments were insulting to many people. many small businesses like bo dietl. >> that will catch up to hillary clinton. >> did you know the i.r.s. can take your money whether you have committed a crime or not? crazy stories coming out of this. "new york times" reports money from business owners' bank accounts have been taken by the government solely because the account holders made deposits of

less than $10,000 at a time raising a red flag. deposits were considered suspicious, attempts to avoid triggering the required government report on deposits over $10,000. the law was originally meant to stop terrorists and drug traffickers and now the i.r.s. says it will adjust its policy. in the meantime, some business owners are left bankrupt. one of them telling the paper, how can this happen? who takes your money before they prove that you've done anything wrong with it? my mom had told me if you keep your deposits under $10,000, the bank avoids paperwork. i didn't actually think it had anything to do with the i.r.s. it was meant to stop drug traffickers and it's going after small business owners. >> we do a lot of a.m.l. investigations and these are flags that pop up. you can't take somebody's money. if i tell my c.f.o. to deposit

$22,000 in my account, you fill out the form. you put the flag. you do nothing wrong. if i choose to take my salary every week at $5,000, whatever i'm getting and i want cash, i should be able to show i did it legally and cash shouldn't be looked upon as the worst thing in the world if you're doing it legally. >> you grew up working in your family restaurant. could you imagine the government seizing the bank account simply because something didn't look right? >> according to this i.r.s. which can't be trusted. it's the reason why all the polls that we talk about on this show are showing what they're showing. distrust in government, distrust in the i.r.s. what i find to be absolutely bone chilling about this is that you have on one hand, sandra, the administration and left talking about people's civil liberties, meaning this nurse, right? her civil liberties were violated but then they're picking people's wallets. the administration has become a bunch of thieves >> and even freezing your money. freezing my money? you don't have the right.

>> but we knew that the i.r.s. was doing this. remember lois lernor? remember her team said they tried to get members of the office not to go after senator grassley in iowa because they flagged him. conservatives were looking at it that we knew. there was nothing wrong in the account. if you look at the verb ate you mean back from the investigation, it said that the i.r.s. officials in lois lerner's office were talking about the fact you can't just flag somebody because you want to. there has to be a crime or something having happened so you can audit it. >> 639 seizures in 2012? who are these people? they are treated like criminals, all of them. >> again, i say it out loud. if you do something legal, no one has the right to take your money. even on the suspicions -- you have to prove it to me. don't take my money and that's it. >> what are people supposed to do in this instance? i think everybody now is scared.

what should they be doing? >> get the congress people there and they should say if the i.r.s. goes against you and it's wrong, you should get triple the damages become for your money when you get it back. okay? >> we're watching you, right? >> the government apparently now wants to do an ebola quarantine. >> take my money. give me triple back if you see it's legal money. >> the government doesn't have any makeup. >> nobody takes my money, man. i make my money legally. leave my mona lone. >> it's a really serious story. in some cases these are small businesses with $30,000 in the bank. >> it can crush them. >> when i was a gambler, we used to gamble in casinos and they used to give you stacks and stacks of cash and i would have to pay off the market. i would have to take stacks and stacks of cash back to the bank. i chose to lose like a fool wasn't the bank's fault but i did everything legally and that's what i'm saying. if you come after me and i'm not

doing something legal -- >> the i.r.s. has felt no repercussions. why wouldn't they be emboldened? >> they are the most popular agency alive. >> what comes in the mail? audit. >> maybe move on to another subject in the next block that gets bo a little riled up. i'm with you, bo. molten lava from hawaii volcano. it's still slowly making its way toward a nearby town as emergency management puts residents on evacuation notice and teachers, they're outraged over "time" magazine's latest cover article which dives into the movement to get bad teachers out of the classroom. is their anger warranted? we'll let you decide. [ male announcer ] are your joints ready for action?

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>> welcome back. "time" magazine is enraging teachers with the cover article.

it details a national movement to remove bad teachers from the classroom. they're demanding an apology and one teacher tweeting, why is time attacking teachers? it's more about sales than about truth. demand an a pal gi. what do you think of this? you have teachers unions that are constantly opposing charters, opposing doctors, opposing restrictions on tenure and they are doing that and the people suffering are the kids in the classroom. what are they up to? >> you know, i know a little bit about the school system. when you have something like 40% of these kids that have to be promoted to force them to be promoted where they can't read properly, the kids are the victims. they're the victims. when you have teachers that don't care and then a teacher trying to do her or his job, then when you get a pervert like brooklyn tech, now they're on the payroll and they have them

doing crimes. i put any 20 years in. i'm going to get my pension. some cop attitudes is i don't want to get involved. i do my 20 years and i get my pension. no. these kids are imaged by the teachers. let them know there's something there for everyone. get a good education. i want these kids graduate to go read and do other schools. they're not doing anything by just pushing them through. >> we have a resident former dean and school teacher on the job here. isn't part of the criticism of this magazine that, i mane, obviously this is putting a negative connotation or association to all school teachers and there are so many good school teachers out there. >> i don't think that's true. there are great teachers in the classroom and there are bad teachers in the classroom and the reality is that a lot of bad teachers stay. they have tenure. you cannot get rid of them. they want no accountability and they are bringing schools town in every city across the country so you have to do something about it and address it and good

teachers out there, their reaction should be, yeah. do you know what? i have teachers in offices next to me not doing their job. they should be rallying behind, fighting for more competition in the marketplace. >> bo, you're inspiring her. way to go. >> merit pay. 80% of classes fail. bring them around. give merit pay. >> they don't want merit pay. they're trying to get rid of the grading system in new york. if you can't look at the grades, you can't decide if the school is bad or not. we grade everything down to coffee shops, every restaurant gets a grade. why can't we grade teacher snz i don't want to go negative on the teachers because there's a loft great teachers out there. it's the unons and they're influencing politicians to get rid of charter schools that benefit over 70% minority and low income kids. look what these unions are doing. they're destroying america. >> that was one of those things that the governor said when he

became governor of new york, that he was going to take a double check, a double look, if you will, at the charter schools. >> every chied should have the right for education. >> i do want to toss it back to you because you have such recent and relevant experience in the classroom. you know, i'm curious to know what bo is talking about, this merit pay on parents and the dude teachers. who decides who would get that? whose decision ifst? >> you should have a system of teacher evaluations. when you ever administration popping into classrooms and evaluating the classes, it can't just be based on grades. you can't be just based on testing or standardized. people will be assigned to pop in the questions on a surprise basis. teachers don't know they're there and evaluate whether the teachers are engaged. if you don't evaluate teachers, how are you going to -- >> teachers are upset. they're basically saying my feelings are hurt. my feelings come first. your child comes second. >> i want to correct myself. did i call him the governor?

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>> i can't wait. more "outnumbered in a moment." first jon scott with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> next hour, midterms just eight days away and senate races in at least 10 states are too close to call. why so many candidates do not want help from the white house. also the hatchet attack in new york city last week just one recent incident raising new fears about so-called lone wolf terror attacks. why the u.s. needs to be concerned. we'll talk about that and lava on the move in hawaii in what could become the most damaging eruptions since the early 1990's. dozens of people packing up

their homes ahead of possible evacuation orders. the latest on a very scary situation happening now. >> i know they've been telling those people at a moment's notice, they could have to leave. we'll watch for that. >> that's a scary one. thanks. >> the pick six. do you know what that is? that's every player's dream. you catch the ball and you make a touchdown. do you know what? you've got these pee wee players out there now, they have a $500 fine. this little fellow there, he's eight years old. he made an interception in the fourth quarter when his team was up 32-0. but his touchdown put his team over the league's 33 point mercy rule. it's a mercy rule. i don't know what that means. trigger $500 fine and an automatic suspension for his

coach, his parents are scratching their heads wondering what did he do wrong? what should he have done -- i mean, we have his mom here. i don't know what he did wrong. maybe he would never have that opportunity again. go ahead, mom. >> i guess if he were to be staring at the scoreboard and knowing that he couldn't score any more, i guess he should have just maybe watched the ball fall? >> that was great. in reality, this kid maybe never had an opportunity. this is great. give everybody a trophy. that's the problem when you have parents. i did a soccer team. i got in a fist fight with one of the coaches. he's yelling at me because i was behind the net of the soccer team and you can't cheer. my son was running. run, run. he goes, come here. right now we have a fight. i was banned from the soccer league. i grabbed him in a head lock.

>> all right. a situation that is slightly different than that, only in that this is a little boy who thought he was doing the right thing. i'll help you out here. you didn't mean to hit him. >> i didn't hit him. i was in a head lock. >> what should he have done in this situation? >> this young man probably would never have that opportunity again and he's running and he's going to make a touchdown. this is great. >> all kids are not the same. it's okay if some win and some win better. it's okay if some score is and some don't. it's okay. that's called life and i thought sports were supposed to be a god lesson. you are the athlete on the couch. you know all about this, sandra. >> i was always on the winning side of the equation. >> that's a good thing, right? you wanted us to cheer for you, right? >> i'm sorry. listen. i just don't even know what the solution here -- like the mom said, what was he supposed to do, just let the ball roll? was he supposed to drop on his

knees? >> he should have caught the ball, dropped to one knee. >> ridiculous. end the game then. if they're already up that many points, just end the game. >> i like that. >> and don't teach him to give up the ball. i do understand the point of the mercy rules. they are trying to teach kids a valuable lesson. don't kick someone when they're down. these are youth kids. this is pee wee football. hour however, i agree. let them score. this is about winning. practice more to be better. >> you can run up the score on offense but this was a defensive play. >> yes. >> it's different. >> good point. >> warm up your score in offense, hey, enough. then you tell the coach, hey, lighten up. this was a defensive play. never gets a chance to catch a ball and now i'm going to run and do a touchdown. >> it wasn't offensive. >> toughen up. >> one costume company defending halloween costumes for babies

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like that. and the owner said the best selling items stir up controversy. harris, are we making a big deal out of nothing. >> they are not choices i would make. i don't know if they are any more offensive than the ebola nurse costume. and so is that any worse than slender man? there is a lot of things that are inappropriate and as a parent, i would not choose them. sandra, i don't know if she will say it. it leans to the market. like it and go shopping. >> i change my whole attitude of medical canna bis. >> do you want kids dressing up. >> i never seen too many high on marijuana. >> are you on the top.

>> and i don't think it is a good idea see a pot thing like. that they will think it is accepted. i am not for alcohol or marijuana for children. pot thing is. i don't want my child walking around looking like a marijuana leaf. >> you have kids dressing up as freddie krugger and jason the -- is that dfrp than a cigarette or pot leaf. >> i think the companies do it. >> i do. >> and i think companies do it to get the pr and have us talk about it and go to the website. >> and they were selling like hot cakes. >> it would be a whole pot plant. >> we have gotten words and made

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