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good to have a veteran on the couch because we have a lot to talk about in regard to military issues. staying vigilant, department of homeland security steps up security at federal buildings in washington, d.c., and across america. more than 9500 federal buildings in all. we are told there is no specific threat but this follows waves of threats from isis. the deadly attack on the canadian parliament building last week and the hatchet attack on police in new york city. all this as there have been a lot of chatter recently suggesting isis another terror groups hoping to capture the imagination of some radicalized individuals or lone wolf. from what i've read, it is not so much it is a difference, but the volume of it. why does that matter? >> it is what they saw in canada before it occurred. i saw a lot of activity in

australia before he foiled an attack. more chatter means a likelihood of gathering, planning and a precursor to execution. i think we are looking at a new normal. i don't know how in this particular instance if we are not willing to defeat the enemy on the battlefield and they fear embolden, they will continue to attempt to inspire and you are going to get lone wolf. they're making very direct threats against the police force, against veterans and how can you not react in a serious way by raising that issue? >> it may be get you to ask the question who is winning in all of this. john mccain is talke talk aboutt very issue. let's watch. >> isis is winning, we are losing. one reason is because they cut cannot identify targets. we warned them only this president could warn isis a week ahead of time so they could get out of the buildings you saw on

cnn. yes, we are going have to have boots on the ground. you the more we delay, the heavier the price is going to be. >> he is talking about the battlefield, but it affects us at home. >> i do think their winning on the battlefield but they are not winning here. i do not buy into lone wolf strategy, they are not self radicalized, they'r their part a larger ideology and being radicalized by these websites. i think it is too pc to say they are a lone wolf because they seem like a nut job. the cops were hesitant because of the laws in new york. if we paint them as individual nut cases that becomes a criminal matter, doesn't become terrorism anymore. but if you are isis you are

encouraged because look at all of the people jumping over the fence at the white house. what message does that send they can penetrate the white house? >> and those situations where people are mentally hampered or whatever it may be. what you're talking what is to look at this in more of a broad view they want to attack us and utilize people who may be weak in that way. >> i think they know what our real threat is, that is global warming. that is the greatest threat to the national security. i guess this makes sense with everything happening like you said, we need to do this and we will see a lot more of it. >> this president is very good at fighting faceless enemies. the weather, health, disease. but when it comes an enemy with a face, whether it is a lone

wolf or soldier, it does not compute with their view. >> as we head into the midterms you're hearing from many republicans other than john mccain that isis is gaining strength and they are winning. >> because we're choosing to lose. we are choosing a certain set of tactics on the ground that limit our ability to affect the outcome. we were at an event last night with green beret. this would be carried mostly by special operators working a song alongside officers. >> it seems that is glorifying and not doing it justice. >> it is all part of the workplace violence. the moment you collect islamic

terrorism you have to engage with the ideology. as long as it is a lone wolf, workplace violence, it is a legal issue. >> real quickly the federal protective service, people tasked with building up our security and keeping it rotating so people don't know what we will be doing to protect the federal building have been heavily criticized how they do their job. i wonder if there isn't some talk of putting private companies in charge of taking the federal facilities. they're going to do it better and do it fast. >> we will see what happens to say, some brand-new fox polls show republicans and democrats are running neck and neck. referendum running on the policies. if that is true, it is looking like a tough road for democrats.

take a look at this. 36% of likely voters said they have always had or are gaining confidence in the president's leadership while 52% say they are losing confidence or never had it at all. another poll showing if his policies are on the ballot, 36% said they would vote for them while more than half would vote against them. when it comes to extreme interest in the election, republicans have a slight edge, so we will see of that interest translates to turn out. jay carney was asked about what kind of a date will be like for democrats, and he did not have a very good picture. take a listen. >> democrats are going to have a battle the matter how you slice it republicans are picking up seats in the senate and the house and they win control of the senate. >> i think he is on point, do you agree? >> when he is declaring defeat, you know they are in a bad spot.

i was in north carolina and listen to the radio and tv ads, there is a senate race. all they're talking about is that he hates women, he wants to undermine reproductive rights. all they're talking about other side is hitting barack obama. probably a referendum on this president and the things we're seeing recently, they reinforce the dysfunctional policies planted hands of those on the right. >> president clinton had been out on the stump talking about voting your anger, voting your fears. i want you to listen to president clinton because i am not sure this is such a good idea for people to vote their fear. take a listen. >> and people are unsettled and the president's approval rating is down, but people are trying to get you to do is take our candidate off the ballot, say

this is your last chance. isn't that what is going on here? vote your fear and anger. >> is that such a good strategy way the economy is? >> that is an appeal to the youth vote. we know their turnout is not expected to be robust at this election. you mentioned the economy. this is by far number one. you mentioned ebola, immigration, isis. these are so far down the list the economy in the number one concern for american people right now, voters say the economy's most important issue, 43% of them in this survey. the rest of them, one in five, the vast majority. yo>> i feel you have isis and ebola and all these things ratcheting up the fear. some people suggesting more security with a political thing. i don't know how that can

benefit democrats. it dredges up fears which looks bad on the administration. >> clinton has not really helped the white house on a number of different locations but if you are in the white house might be thinking thank you for that. >> and the public, it is obvious how people are pretty unhappy with the president, which is sad. you want to support whatever president it is, unfortunately why are you going to fight for somebody who isn't fighting for you. a lot of people aren't happy about that. >> i think she makes a great point when she talks about people want to see this president to succeed, they want to see him step up but he is just not. >> we are americans the matter what party we are. if you are president barack obama look at how often president clinton, the former has been out in the past two

days you have be wondering who are my chief because bill clinton was in vegas on this vote and he said i was all happy and it is like they came to see if i could do one more lap around. >> where is the president, carrying the water for the party. >> bill clinton is more than happy to do the duties. democratic governor in south carolina apologizing for what they call a sexist slur. what he said about his republican challenger that has mainly gone ignored by the mainstream media. would it be different if it were a republican? and concerns of a new u.s. policy that some say could lead to american citizenship for big bucks. and after the show, catch more on the web. log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered and click on the overtime tab.

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that immigration services that gives a new definition to motherhood. now some are saying it could allow fertility clinics to sell american citizenship and pocket major profits. a woman is now assigned a mother even if she gives birth to a child with whom she has no genetic relationship. so let's say a surrogate mother who is an american citizen has a baby for a foreign couple overseas. with the new policy, the baby can become a u.s. citizen and will have access to all the welfare benefits, educational system and all the rights of an american citizen. the surrogate never has to step foot in the united states for the policy to take effect. this isn't happening yet, but this is a loophole that could be exposed. >> it certainly is crazy. you understand why they have this law. so if i get pregnant and go to visit family and deliver the baby early, i want to make sure

my baby has american citizenship. but this has gotten out of hand. you can actually have somebody in a foreign country that doesn't have to be here as long as the vessel for carrying the child and the child can get a u.s. passport. >> if you have a baby overseas, isn't the baby still an american. so what is the need to reinforce that? >> this is the difference, if you are american living in china a chinese couple want the baby to have american citizenship, they can have you carry the baby for them. she gives birth to the baby. >> why do they need this? because that has never not been the case. when my father was deployed, my mother gives birth, the baby is still an american. >> you're either born on american soil or born to an american mother.

so why the need for the law? it seems an expansion of motherhood as we do gender and other things. >> when you are a surrogate you are not genetically the child's mother. this is not somebody giving birth to their own child. >> so no american genetics involved at all. this is serving in what we do to create citizens in the country. if you have so many not of american blood or american family, what other race, religion, creed you are, you are not passing it on. as a total erosion of what we're trying to do. >> this could cause big problems down the line. >> let's talk about where the problems come in. if we know this happens because wealthy chinese couples have offered up $120,000 for surrogate moms, so what if the surrogate mom decides i'm kind

of selling citizenship. 120 grand isn't going to cut it. you say you are wealthy, pay me more. i am having an american child for you that comes with my citizenship. her fee goes way up. will american women around the world try to make a walk off this? i want to spend time with immigration services and ask the question, if it were, is that taxable income? >> what about the firms that provide the surrogate's. if you have an american passport, a russian and you are of hispanic descent or any dissent, you can go overseas as long as you are an american and carry this baby. >> this is going to be a great ben affleck film. i would like to be cast as a very fertile surrogate. you know these clinics and the

surrogate will be the hero when it is corruption undermining the value of this country. >> it just feels like they will be exploitation. it is going to be exploited by the wrong people. >> you're paying all that might have a surrogate, you would think he wouldn't have a child dependent on american government because they're coming from a wealthy family's my question is why do you need this? >> and they have all the money they don't have our freedom. this is same reason people want to come to our great nation and we want that kind of immigration but this is a loophole that could go down a slippery road. >> it is not made for this purpose, we are exposing what could loophole that could be further exposed. all u.s. troops returning from the ebola hot stones in west africa must undergo a mandatory

quarantine of 21 days but the government and the president saying most health care workers don't have to do this. why the different rules? and is the administration sending mixed messages? and new hampshire is all knotted up. why the senate race could soon be less popular candidate. and we are your election candidates coverage. tune in next tuesday starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern time right here on the fox news channel. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]

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new hampshire and shaping up to be a close contest between scott brown and jean. enjoying a wide lead in the polls until september 9 primary. but now an average poll shows her lead has significant the narrowed to just over two points. this despite the fact a far higher approval rating than brown. 54-40%. pete, this is one of these races that really are key referendums on the president. both women who try to put distance between themselves. coming out saying i don't agree with president obama, isis is not manageable, let's follow them to the gates of hell and national security because the naval yard is in new hampshire solicit a key race wit for the national security policies are being rejected in new hampshire. >> north carolina was always a tight race. new hampshire without a lot of outside money. people were hating on downtown scotty brown, here we are a week

out from the election he has run a great race on issues like the border. republicans have galvanized around him. you are not seeing the same issues get national republicans think you'd be a great part of the caucus and the polls reflected. i am from minnesota. they do the hunker down in the senate strategy where they don't take a positions. that is what they have tried to do, now she is being taken task for it. >> you are the political savvy one here. the focus has been her party's focus to keep on local issues. should she pull off a win that will show she has her party strategy speaking to local issue. if around were to win that would show how toxic the national environment has gotten in these other parties. >> no question republicans have

a damage brand image and they are lucky they can say we are not president obama this time around but getting asked about the public issues trying to keep it local time and time again but every event they are asking her about isis or obamacare. she just can't seem to run away from this as much as she tries. the idea of hope and change is wonderful, but it is futile and people have to vote for change if they want to see it. >> this is a stat state president obama did very well in. new hampshire, north carolina, north colorado. iera spinning millions to distance themselves. >> this particular race shows us what can happen after the election the matter who comes out on top. we can say what we think might happen but it may not even matter. the big question is how lame

duck's is president going to be and how much damage has been incurred by him playing with the visuals of golfing versus governing. whether that were the case or not. that is a dangerous thing to get into. it may oscar taveras seen him on the trail did helping to raise money. he can do that very well but you don't have to see him to do that. >> reinforcing the visuals, the sense of weakness good some people call it the daddy party and the democratic party the mommy party. in this case folks in hampshire new hampshire are running the daddy party, and looking for someone with hands on the wheel. you ask about obamacare, isis, she can't answer questions. he should be able to answer these questions. >> i voted for the president 99% of the time, i agree sometimes, not others. >> a motto in new hampshire's live free or die. it is not resonatin written in l

in new hampshire. >> we will get back to it that makes news. ebola in america. now ordering all members of the military returning from ebola hot stones in west africa to undergo metric 21 days quarantine. after president obama spoke out against imaginary quarantine. some arab posing on health care workers. >> you don't just react based on our fears. you react based on fact and judgment and making smart decisions. we don't want to do things that aren't based on science and best practices because if we do, we're just putting another barrier on somebody who is already doing really important work on our behalf. >> the best practices they weren't so sure about when nurses contracted ebola in west texas. is the president sending the messages on what is the best way

to carry out ebola quarantine? with mike explains why rules for military personnel are different from those for the rest of us. >> the military is a different situation because they are first of all not treating patients. second of all, they are not there voluntarily, part of their mission assigned to them by their commanders and by the commander-in-chief. we do not expect to have similar rules for our military as we do for civilian isil >> specifically not to rest of us, his talking with doctors and nurses going there. military personnel should be quarantined but not the actual doctors? how does the presiden presidente misinformation of what they're doing when they have been returning from the hot zones getting ebola? >> i've never seen some a mixed messages in a speech about not having mixed messages. he effectively says we are going

to treat them differently than t people directly treating patients. there are protocols, they will quarantine these guys because they want to take precaution they don't have the same rights. i get that, but that is confusing the american people. >> i would talking about confusion or a dangerous medical problem? >> at henry's questions at the white house. answer as to why we sent the military over into harm's way, you and i already talked about this, into harm's way without a plan how to bring them back here safely? that's a pretty mixed message if you ask me. go over there, we figure it out after we send you. >> slow roll on isis but rush to ebola without a plan. now what do we do in containing a potential outbreak. >> does this point to bigger split with the white house and

department of defense? general jack keane was on our channel talking about how they are not getting along. we've seen this numerous times with different pages with their messaging. i don't know why you quarantine members of the military but not health care workers. he talked about, we're making the military go over there, not something their choice. i directed them to do. of. a lot of people in "doctors without borders," this is their choice as well. samantha power, will she be quarantined? i would be pretty ticked off if they didn't want a quarantine other health care workers because they're disproportionately affected. >> samantha power went to sierra leone and was able to report back, looks like burial practices one of the ways the disease was spreading has gotten much better. immediate question, what which do with everybody to protect. 21-day quarantine there or here? i want to move on to get your opinion. put this up on the screen if we can. where is ron klain, the ebola

czar? >> quarantined? self-quarantined? lead by example. >> was appointings him mostly a public relations move? and what did they get politically? 67% of people say, mostly pr. 23% say, well, its with a serious attempt to help, help in which way? >> to quell fear? apparently not. we should be seeing his face more than anyone else's to give everyone in this country some sense of peace which we don't have. and unfortunately the president has to make a decision that fits everyone. it is like parenting. there has to be the name rules for every kid. otherwise, everyone starts rebelling. wait, why isn't it this way or that way? then they don't trust you anymore. >> that was very profound. >> how did i do? >> this criticism, the criticism has been he has no medical background. that you know, it is mostly a

political background. are you going to get the trust and the better feeling from this man? we don't know -- >> right now the biggest risk is the fear that everyone has. that's spreading. >> okay. we'll move on. south carolina governor nikki haley, democrat challenger making the quite the verbal gaffe. watch this. >> we'll escort whore out the door. we'll escort her out the door no. >> i know whore rhymes with door. hmmm. there is big controversy over this. but, less over the slip-up itself and more about his reaction after he corrected himself. we'll show you that. speaking of ladies of the evening, the guy tapped to investigate the secret service prostitution scandal, stepping aside, because, wait for it, wait for it, a prostitution scandal of his own! handle the scandal, would you? ♪

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>> democratic candidate for governor in south carolina, vincent shaheen, apologizing for a comment he made last week seemed to refer republican challenger, governor nikki haley as a whore. listen. >> she vetoed our public school teachers pay races, the same year she gave her own staff 25% pay increases. that is the worst kind of politic and we are going to escort whore out the door. we'll escort her out the door. y'all -- >> eww. sheheane later told a radio show said he didn't mean to say when he thought everyone said. when you speak five to 10 times a day your words get garbled. start with the biggest feminist on the couch, pete. how offended were you by his

statement. >> i was not offended at all because, in my viewing of it, it looked like honest slip-up. looked like he didn't want to say that. what he did afterwards is very, very revealing. >> i completely disagree. >> if a republican had said it, it would be revealing true inner feeling how he sees his candidate. >> he would have been eviscerated. >> this is just a mistake. >> would the response be different if parties -- >> absolutely. see it on every major network on television. am i in the minority here? do you think that he -- >> no, i agree with you. >> bring it home, girlfriend. >> that was purposeful, pete. i don't know what you heard. the fact that he giggled and laughed afterwards, there is no room in american politics for that, none. >> i agree completely. night is not funny. >> i don't know what happened after he laughed, if he

apologized and said i didn't mean to say that. >> he didn't. >> clearly it was offensive. >> couple things here. one, i did and i said this in the commercial break. i did some research, we do in our mind typically repeat things based on how they sound and so when you see children learn to speak, they tend to speak that way. and maybe he was tired and whore rhymes with door. i'm not kidding with that. you have a mic in your hands. a audience in front of you. cam ares are everywhere. most intelligent way to respond and not laughing. to rear back, with an apology. owe didn't do. that he laughed. >> he should be shocked that came out of his mouth. >> one thing, he made us concentrate on his actions rather than what he said. that sun fortunate for him because his action was to giggle like a nine-year-old girl. >> whore rhymes with door. you know what class rhymes with? yeah. that is it what this guy is i'm sorry. >> wait, what does it rhyme with? i'm just kidding. >> it days day time.

>> brass. >> okay. >> okay. if i were him and he is running for public office, i get it, you talk a lot and you may jumble your words but he should have immediately said, i din mean that, absolutely did not mean that, and i apologize knowing, knowing how this will play over and not laugh. you know what? even if it was a mistake, we've seen when meg whitman and carly fiorina running in california, we saw what happened when someone called one of them a slut. remember jerry brown's staffer? didn't hear anything from the national organization from women. what did you hear from the national organization for women when elise stef nan nick, couple weeks ago, congressional candidate not accused of manuel labor. what did her opponent do, go, right, right? boarish behavior is offensive. >> there is difference between honest mistake and a jab. i think republicans need to pick their battles. >> he liked that mistake though, jo. he like that mistake.

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we can't wait. bet you can't too. first let's go to jon scott with what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> harris, we're 12 minutes away from this story. another embraer askerment for the secret service after agents caught partying with prostitutes back in 2012. now the guy investigating that scandal has resigned over a scandal of his own. plus he eluded police more than six weeks. another possible sighting of eric frein.

are law enforcement finally closing in on the suspected cop killer in pennsylvania? high-profile murder trial we're following. researcher accused of poisoning his wife. new testimony that could tighten the screws on dr. robert ferante. the purchase one witness says he made days before his wife fell violently and fatally ill. it is coming upping "happening now." >> this is such a high-profile case. jon, thank you. jon: thanks, harris. >> i may be "outnumbered" today by ladies in purple but now it is my turn with this story. >> it is blue. >> sorry. >> you're my friend. >> debate most working parents face, who stays home from work when your child is sick? according to a new study, women are 10 times more likely to take a day off to take care of a sick child. off% of the those women say they don't get paid when they do. the report says women are five times more likely to take the kid to the doctor. i will turn to our two married

women here, both wearing purple. ask you, do you take the children if it is a toss-up, automatic the wife will take the kids to the doctor? >> nothing is automatic in our household. tony and i, we're doing a lot. i'm here. he is working two. we split it up, whatever works out best. we also like to be with the girls alone sometimes. you know, so gives maybe daddy a chance to be with a bella or daddy a chance with to be with danica. he can comfort in sickness. we split it up. >> she runs a solid household, harris. organized, top to bottom. i can't claim to be that organized. >> bless you. >> this is something families have to make a decision on a daily basis. depend who has what is going on at work, how sick the child is? can whoever caring for your child take that child even though they're sick? a lot of day care agree to take on sick children anyway or nannies or whatever, if you have working parents. i will turn the card on you,

mr. dad. he has two boys at home what is your feeling. >>? >> i was asking you why that 10 to one number, you're saying hey, depend who got what, why is it across america is it 10 to one? i say this is example oftentimes this is traditional gender roles. >> mothers are nauert you arers. >> my child is sick. i will take them tot doctor. the pay piece, is interesting. why do more women not get paid. salary versus hourly? what is the dynamic. do you think gender roles kicking in at moment of a sick child? >> i do. women go into the mother hen role and want to be near their kids. when your little boys are sick, do they want their mommy? i remember at the time when i would be sick i only wanted my mom. i didn't reach for my dad. is that what kids are still doing? >> i can confirm that is what kids are indeed doing. they're going to mommy even when

they're not sick. >> that is true. >> i remember when i was sick, ution for everything was wet a wash cloth, put it on the for head. go outside. mom? >> may not have helped at all. >> my dad stayed home with us when we were sick for a while. he was between jobs. so it was ideal for him to stay home. we watched the price is right together. he would go out and get fast-food for lunch for us when we weren't feeling well, thinking it would make us feel better. it made me feel more nauseous. to this day i can't have fast-food. i thank my dad. >> is your mom hearing this first time now? is they trouble? oh, boy. >> dads have a special way of going about doing it. not one be tender textbook. try to make it fun. try to make a few rules. >> who is going to work the child misses them. >> the money component is really troubling t should be equal. shouldn't matter which parent

takes off. >> it shouldn't matter. that is something that is part after foregone era for sure. all right some of the hottest models in the world -- >> wow, what a segue. >> they're here on the couch. >> that makes me so happy. >> star in victoria secret ads of course, wearing very little, of course. >> cue the footage. >> it is not ladies right now but text in one of victoria secret's ads that is raising serious eyebrows. ♪

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a petition was launched asking for an apology. >> what do they expect? it is victoria secret. i have no issue with this. body is in quotes. no one will pay attention. body is the name of the bra. they didn't say it is the perfect body. and they are playing on this faux outrage. >> are you outraged? >> shaming is shaming and i will not skinny shame these ladies. they look great in their intimates and makes me want to buy it. it is a business and not a social network. if you don't like it go somewhere else. >>andrea. take the word body. >> find me an imperfection. if they make you feel bad about

yourself. these women are gorgeous. >> i love that pete volunteered to study butter cup on this segment. >> and i know you did the research. >> they are factually correct. >> and someone comes up to you. >> i have studied this segment. >> the "body" is one of the bras. this is effective advertising and as joan said it makes her want to spend her cash on this. >> we are talking about it and i will probably buy one. >> the secret is, if you are with the right person, the adis true. >> pete said i want to buy one for christmas. >> now we know the çadis worki because the men want one. >> buy it out of the catalog. >> we'll stay with outnumbered

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