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biggest names in business. lou dobbs, maria bartiromo, some of these people you see right there. other people who do this in the business world, these guys are the best, and they're all going to join us tonight. what are you doing watching anything else? hello, everyone, happy election day, i'm kimberly, along with bob, greg dana and greg. it is decision today across the country, grab your popcorn, america, because we have quite a pre-game show for you tonight. special election coverage kickoff begins one hour from now on fox news, polls close two hours from now in key states, in races that could determine the new balance of power in washington, among them, georgia, kentucky and virginia. republicans are hoping to
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recapture the senate, and they have some inadvertent help from the president. >> this is a referendum on obama's hyper liberalism and we're six years in, we see the results of obama care, we see the results of the stimulus, i don't have to go through all the scandals abroad and here at home. this is liberalism on trial. >> liberalism on trial, and barack obama on the ballot whether he likes it or not. >> should we call the first witness for this trial, bob beckle, i like these results, but don't through the special election coverage on fox news, bob and i are going to be seated with charles krauthammer, so bob will get a chance to talk to one of his five heros. >> when charles says liberalism
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is on trial, you know, he's usually not given to hyperbole, but this is ridiculous. every cycle has somebody in the white house and somebody gets beaten and so you say, conservativism is on trial, liberalism is on trial, it's not on trial, very few people are going to be voting, if that was the case, liberalism won then three years ago didn't they? >> it's a referendum on failure, because the fact is president obama, he actually did not -- he got all of his ideas through, he chased his dream, which turned out to be our nightmare. what's interesting, the amazing feature of this administration is that no one cares. nobody cares. how many people voted for obama who have no interest in his success or his failure? to them the election was a one night stand and the rest of the country got knocked up. but there's nobody who really gives a damn. that's what blows my mind. >> you're hitting very close to home when you say things like
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that. >> the balance of power in play, key states will be coming in in about an hour and we may know what direction this is going to go. what do the republicans need to get and what do you think they have so far? >> the republicans need to pick up six to get the senate back. all 435 constitutional seats are up, 233 now in the hands of republicans, it looks like there could be 10 more, that will be good as bob well knows, if there are 20 to 25 tea party voting caucus, you can actually pass it up in the house without the tea party. the 26th gubernatorial race, that one, the democrats may pick up one, maybe two. is barack obama on the ballot? if there's no better indication that barack obama is in fact on the ballot, look no further than north carolina where kay hagan had an ad that she was playing on tv. tom tillis was smart enough to realize there was a referendum
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in the senate race. if you want more of barack ob a obama, elect kay hagan. >> would you agree that barack obama's 38th or 37% approval rating is definitely on the ballot across the country? >> you have to look at where these radio spots were played. they were on the black belt on the virginia-north carolina border where they're about 90% black. and it makes a lot of sense. >> but for tillis to play it? >> i mean who's going to care about tillis except for tillis people? >> the point is, he realized that was a negative for kay ha
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zbrks -- the cbs news poll says the number one thing that the congress should address immediately, the economy by 38%, next is health care, 23%, and if you go to "usa today" poll, saying if there's one thing a republican senate should tackle, it would be a job creation bill, next would be national security, immigration would be third. another bit of news today that i thought was interesting, i had an interview this morning with orman, the independent candidate, he backed off from are you going to caucus with the democrats, and then you had vice president biden make these comments, let's take a listen and get your reaction. >> i think we have a chance of picking up, you know, an inspect who will be with us in the state of kansas, so i think we'll end up with 52, about in that range, democratic votes. >> then what happened from that? >> well, kansas has been --
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normally, you wouldn't even talk about kansas, because it would be a reliably republican state. pat roberts, who's the incumbent is in the race of his life, and i think he'll probably pull it out. but this orman character, because he's an independent and he refuses to tell the voters of kansas whether he would caucus with the democrats or republicans as if he is waiting to see who the winner is and that's who he'll decide to caucus with. maybe the voters in kansas, who are on the fence, they may not like roberts, maybe we'll give this independent guy a try. he may not be so independent. but the white house, the political operation has not been so tight. they had several mistakes including bruce braley in iowa.
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they've got a lot of other things going on in the white house, and this campaign is probably the last priority on their list. >> sure enough, you can put your money on it, if orman gets in, he's going to caucus with the democrats, so biden just tried a little bit of uncle joe truth serum. >> he underlines the fact that we brought up many times before, that for a democrat or a liberal to win, they have to wear a disguise, because they know they are so unpopular, they have to pretend to be something else in order to get through the door. they run right and then they act left. >> it's also safe to say that the republicans are not in terribly good shape. this is not a race on parties, if there were, nobody would vote. >> that's not the case all the time. >> not all the time, but i think in kansas, i think this guy will actually caucus with the party that has power. if for no other reason -- >> can't you just -- >> watch your language, dana.
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>> is that another one of those words i don't know the origin of? >> lame. >> i would like to see somebody say some principles, what do you stand for, who are you going to caucus as? >> you got the prom date on the brady bunch, who was waiting and then when marsha got her nose broken, he decided to go with another girl. >> the question of obama care, minimum wage, he won't take a position, because he says when he gets there, he'll figure out where he wants to caucus. >> joe biden, for joe bideni to be right, they would have to pick up north carolina, kansas with orman, but they would have to go with the democrats. louisiana and iowa, that would be a very, very big night for the democrats if that happened. >> oh, sure. but conversely, if democrats lose in new hampshire and north
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carolina, it's katie bar the door. the arremargin of getting there appreciably smaller, you're probably going to have a 50-vote republican number in the senate, and you have to wait for a runoff, some of these states trigger automatic vote recounts with in 1%or less, and when you talk about alaska, you got to get some votes out there from ways out there in the tundra, it could be a very late night. >> it will be interesting to see what the caribou have decided. >> i would vote for them. >> one thing we haven't talked about is state legislatures. and the republicans have the majority of governor ships, they might lose, the democrats might pick up one. but the governor's races have actually been pretty good for republicans, but we don't talk too much about the state legislatures. those are almost going to be uniformly republican majorities across the board, and that
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matters because state legislators that are republican, that help a republican governor actually can get policies put forward. that matters then for the future. because governors that have experience of accomplishment and management tend to make good candidates, as we look ahead into the future, to 2016 and 2020, these governor's races will be important. >> there are five states that have a minimum wage initiative. i bet republicans vote for it. >> marijuana in a couple of states, district of columbia, alaska, oregon and florida, medical. >> medical marijuana to make it legal. >> do you think, bob, actually greg, i was going to ask about that d.c. legalization of marijuana, do you think that will pass in d.c.? you have lived there for a while. >> i guess so. the tide is turning, i think
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people are less inclicned to lok at it as something that isn't so evil. on animal planet right now, they are going to have a marathon of finding bigfoot, they have had sightings in new jersey, santa cruz and massachusetts. pretty sure it's a shirtless shepard smith, he's hairier than a turkish bath shower drain. >> that's going to go over well. there's going to be pay back for that. >> you're saying it's low turnout, low turnout. why is it going to be low turnout and where are all your democrats? >> the turnout is going to be different state by state. you always hear this during the day, gosh, it's the biggest turnout ever. >> my point is, the liberals
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have been saying, well the reason why this is so skewed to the republicans this time is because it's going to be a low turnout. if that's the case -- >> democrats don't have a lot of -- first of all, most democrats are running in some very difficult states and they don't have a whole lot to be out there cheering about. >> but the good news for democrats is if they don't vote today, they have until tomorrow to vote, that's the new rule, so 8:00 tomorrow, democrats can still vote. >> republicans need to vote today, and democrats need to vote tomorrow. >> i just wanted to get that out there. before we forgot. >> if i was still in the business, this would be an easy call. >> i was serious. next, republicans are poised to make history with a number of races tonight, dana's going to tell you how when we come back, stay with us if you dare. i make a lot of purchases for my business.
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by playing that song, we have guaranteed any friend nick gillespie will pin. they could also make history in a number of races, elise ste stephonic. sewn -- and tim scott was appointed to senate in south carolina last year, but today he's expected to be elected to the post. the first black senator ever from the state. and, greg, the first two have
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served in both the house and the senate. you could say, i think you would even say that they have done a better job this year. >> yes. the party needed new blood and i don't mean a transfusion from chuck grassley, they need more women, they need more blacks. the big zeal is that the people who are coming to the republican party, are coming despite the abuse they get. the way liberals hate black conservatives more than they hate white racists, they are called horrible names, even british jerks like russell brand go after them, it's open season on black conservatives, for women, conservative women, i mean you're not really a woman unless you adored lena dunham. so it takes incredible bravery, those are the trail blazers for the republican party to with stand the abuse that they get from their peers who are generally in their age group or within their group in general,
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who are not like them. so these are the real brave people and we should salute them. >> it's not easy to run for congress, bob. what do you think? >> i was accused of being too low key in the first block because i was trying to be analytic analytical. you said the first, the first, the first, but it should have started years ago. if you had enough of them in there, you wouldn't be abusing them. >> remember when tim scott was nominated to the post and the terrible things that were said about him? today, we can't do anything got the past, the past is the past. >> remember when we started the kkk? >> oh, yeah, that was the democrats. >> you can't do anything about the past, but the fact is this is 2014, and this should have been done earlier, but it's a start. i don't think it's going to be a ground swell, we're talking about a very small percentage of people and the democrats have been doing this for a long time. >> you got to be positive about
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this tremendous accomplishment. i encourage anybody who wants to be involved in politics, and think they can serve, have the courage. >> i could make some comments about scott which were terrible, i should haven't said them, but i said it because our view of this is that republicans have never set foot in black territory, they have -- except for rachbd paul. >> that's totally unfair. >> the whole faith based initialive because trying to help the -- >> you cannot cam pain in black -- >> if you have a democratic candidate and you taking a black message to -- >> if republicans have a successful night, they'll have ten women, four women, three gays, and three millennials, the latin america vote is starting to move to the gop because it's a natural fit, but they're
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frankly upset for the last six years they have been promised immigration reform and they haven't gotten it. every single month, 66,000 latinos turn 18 years old. so their average voting age is 27 years old. whereas the american electorate is 40 years of age. if you get the latin-american vote to move over to the gop -- >> what is your emphasis on their moving to the republican party. >> bob, have you not heard that they have wanted immigration reform and have been promised -- >> they blame the republicans who are denying it to them. >> took it off the table, absolutely. >> promised them, they took it off the table and now they're looking to be courted for a party that's going to be in particular pay attention to the wants and needs of the latino community.
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>> the best thing the republican party can do, whether it's far right or center rice is to embrace that vote, there are a >> immigration reform is not the only policy. there are ways to encourage hispanics to vote for republican policies if they're explained in a way that shows them that you want better schools, the teachers unions are a problem but we're willing to try to fix that. you want to keep more of your money in your own pocket, in our state -- that's why the governors are actually so successful, republican governors and two governor who is aren't getting much credit this time around, nikki haley, she's a governor, she's going to sail away with it tonight and suzanna martinez, new mexico they don't get any attention because their races were easy, but it
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shouldn't have been necessarily that easy for them. >> a republican would have to drop dead in front of the railroad -- >> when you think about it, what a disadvantage conservatives have, imagine if you play pro football and you hated the sport, that's a conservative politician. you are playing a game, a realm that you despise. and that's what that -- >> stop whining about this and do something about it. >> i saw you whining all last week. >> i beg your pardon. >> i got to run, should republicans compromise on the president's agenda if they win back the senate tonight? why would they.
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. anything short of a blowout for republicans is bad and here's why. after six years of anything, america gets bored, that's why presidents should only get one term. if you had a breed of dog that stayed a puppy forever, you would eat it by the six years. at least the president would. i kid the dog eater. lessons must be earned the lessons, you won now not because your vision rules, but because obama's so weak. if this were let's make a deal, the republicans are what's behind door number two, after door number one revealed a bag of snakes filled with spiders. the demsr losing and a republican victory is still somehow a win for obama.
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what are they going to do about immigration, what are they going to do about minute mum wage, both parties have taked out positions at either end of the spectrum, and refusing to meet in the middle. >> the country votes thumbs down on obama, which really means thumbs up, and when a republican wins, you -- if only putin, air rain and isis felt that way, we would be losing our way to victory, so the opponent is already prepping your democrat mize, 2014 is not actually the -- 2016 is where your head must be, skip symbolic battles and small skirmishes, they're just traps. instead, find a candidate and their message.
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the pass is clearing, people are ready, now get to work and get the big one for a change. >> she said, this is the worst thing you have ever read. >> no, i didn't say that. and actually listening to it wasn't as bad as when i read it. i didn't like your opening line, where you said that anything less than a blowout is -- i sort of feel like we have to look at the facts in context. since 1980, republicans have never been able to pick off more than two incumbents at a time. incumbents are very, very hard to beat whether you're a republican or a democrat. i agree with you about the tom brokaw point, why isn't the question, what can president obama do now to meet the republicans partway on some of these issues, because i do think they're going to send him a lot of legislation and he'll have to decide whether to vote for them
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or not. i think we should not jump on the republicans, one night, say you won some races, but a candidate will emerge, but that doesn't have to start tomorrow. >> shouldn't democrats be hard on republicans so they don't blow it in the next two years? >> the republicans get the house and the senate, and then they're going to come out and be very blustery, they're going to get impeachment, start that lawsuit, assaying they're going to fund obama care. what would be nice if they came out and said, we have a couple of things that maybe you could meet us, barack obama at least partway, keystone pipeline, offshore drilling, things like that. what may or may not happen, i would think he would have to sign a keystone pipeline into law.
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>> you have a chance to say, look what happened when he didn't get his way for the last two years, he went to try to change things in 2016. >> he's more careful about his base, and he's not going to willingly turn over the keys to the car to a bunch of teenagers as far as he's concerned. however, he should take a lesson from clinton and try to do something to move more towards the middle to see what he can do, to show that he's serious about jobs, that he cares about america, for example the keystone pipeline, try to show that he's a leader in consensus, because at the end of the day, this is going to be his legacy, these last two years could be very defining, because he's coming into it very unpopular, there's a lot of things that have gone terribly wrong, it's not just being ineffective, there are some things they are going to be able to highlight. >> bill clinton really didn't leaf his mark on his presidency until he had actual competition.
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>> a lot of legislation is passed when you've got the congress in the hands of one party and the white house is in the hands of another. it's big legislation because it's bipartisan and there's support that way. you tell me one thing that the republicans came to barack obama when he won. i can't think of a single thing. not one. >> there was a difference, right? because the president didn't need the raepublicans because h had both houses. >> that's when the damage has already been done, when he was running for president. >> if i were obama, i would invite them down, the republican leadership down to the who is as soon as i could, and find one thing i could go on. >> there's something even smaller that they could do immediately. that he could not give to president obama that he deserves and needs, trade for more promotion and authority.
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one -- first up, with literally millions of dollars spent on political ads, leave it to jimmy fallon and the tonight show crew to find the whackiest ads of the cycle. >> tomorrow are the midterm elections in case you haven't heard. the good news is there are plenty of dignified campaign ads to help you make a decision, these are all real. >> i grew up castrating hogs on a iowa farm. my opponent made news by skinny dipping on the job. >> more weed, less war. vote tom haigh. >> tom tillis in the senate. ♪ it feels so right >> and some of them really worked. the guy at the hardware store who hangs out there but doesn't work there, and they're memorable. do you remember the best campaign ad of 2012?
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no. >> well, that was a trick question. >> you didn't even give her a chance to answer. >> seven minutes. >> i remember sarah palin, where the turkey was getting his head cut off in the back. >> that was amassing. >> i like the castration video, i'm all for joni ernst. >> the joni ernst ad on castration, that was a web ad that got ernst the reputation so she could start raising real money. there's so many ads, i don't know how effective they are, if people just tune them out or what. >> it's one of the biggest wastes of money. >> it's ridiculous, who can get yourself through that? >> i think effective ads do matter, if you remember them, if it's a simple message, you learn something. the risk is if you have a really
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bad ad. >> they reason natusonate with . >> angelina jolie, a beautiful actress, what may be on the star's -- when you work as a humanitarian, you know that politics have to be considered because if you really want to make an extreme change, then you have a responsibility. >> i love the statement, and again, i encourage any woman who wants to get involved in politics, she's shown she has a genuine sincere care for women. having breast cancer in her
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family. and with children, as a humanitarian and good will ambassador, so i would encourage someone like that to run. >> i would like to be the first voluntary to manage her campaign. >> secondly, this is not the first person to do that. let's look at sonny buono and ronald reagformer president roo. >> this is a pattern that we have seen throughout america, which is that once you get through whatever career steps you're going to have and you have some success, and then you start doing some charity work, and you decide there's another way to get back, if politics is in her future, would you vote for her? >> we talk about it a lot when we get together and i have always told her to follow her heart in all of her endeavors and she listens and we laugh a lot and then i promise to tell her that i'll never talk to brad about us. he's uncomfortable about our relationship, i think he finds me threatening, i don't understand why, it's just a close friendship. >> he stays in the other room and watches tv. >>? sometimes he just storms out when i'm over.
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i'm like, dude, what's up, man, it's like, cool, and then he's like no, whatever. and i'm like no, whatever. and it goes on for like stays. >> taylor swift decided to move her entire music selection off of spotify this weekend. >> the decision was too swift, the others say it was tailor-made for her miss deal in the near future. here's spotify taken off. >> i don't get any of that, but we talked about it a lot, when we meet up. i told her just last night, to follow her heart, which she did. i wrote all her songs.
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>> i don't know what spotify is. >> she's got something up her sleeve, so far she's made tremendous good moves, good for her, let her be an inspiration to others. >> she's confident enough, and in a position that she -- music industry is in transition. >> they need her more than she needs them at this point. >> straight ahead, this year's midterm elections are the most expensive in history, but you'll be surprised by things americans spend even more money on, that's coming up, bob's got that. she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your
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$69 billion on lottery tickets and an even $6 billion on taco bell. >> okay, first of all, this is done by the washington examiner, which is the right wing rag down in washington, you can try to compare wire to contributors, a very small percentage of americans contribute, a lot of people drink beer, so it's a ridiculous comparison, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of money is being spent. >> corporations are people too, right? i think this is -- this is -- what's the difference if we spend $3 billion or $5 billion,
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we have learned it, that's what we're entitled to. the right of free speech, and you can spend your money the way you want to do it. $3 billion seem like a lot to you? >> you can find 30 or $300 billion of waste. $3 billion on anderson. >> a million dollar campaign for is senate was very, very rare, 200,0$200,000 for a house race very rare. >> you're missing the point, that this is america. >> america. >> and nobody gets penalized for exercising their votes. if you want to put money in campaign coffers, you can do it. no one is stopping you from doing it. >> there was a time when we
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decided we were going to put some restrictions on money and politics, the one true way we can do this is taxpayer funded elections. >> the dpraths have actually raised more third party money. >> greg, will you please let me know what you think about this? >> i find it interesting that you spend $6 billion a year on taco bell. another interesting fact, tpa. we spend $12 billion on batottl water, something you get for free, $12 billion. we spend twice as much money on global warming, $2.2 billion than we spend on border security. >> but don't you think that
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time now for one more thing. we're going to continue with greg. >> if there is a reason to vote republican, it has to be this ed schultz. look at this. this might be the creepiest thing that i have ever seen since i saw it earlier today. the rumor has it that if you stare at this longer than ten seconds, worms will grow in your brain. it's the ed schultz disorder. >> so after a very long wait, my good friend donald trump, he announces his new cast, there he is, geraldo rivera will be on the cast, along with a jonas brother, gilbert godfreed. johnny damon, lease ska gibbons, two real housewives and kate
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goslin among others. >> you're going to be on the election coverage. >> i promise to talk more about the trade promotion. before that, you know what every ele election day needs? puppies, this bomb named lorinda strong, with her puppy. where is that puppy? >> how can you find this funny? >> i'm actually disturbed. >> this is harassment. >> do you think this is cool? he's like where is that dog. he wants to play. i think that dog -- >> that's horrible. >> that woman is like in greg's sports -- >> isn't is that a little awkward for america? >> my dog is smarter than that, if you watch this documentary,
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nature's documentary, you'll have to go behind the tv to see where the bird went, that's kind of smart. >> greg, do you have anything living in your house? >> i do have some things, but i'm not allowed to say who, becau because. >> i've got a great one more thing, are you ready for this? >> why? >> because it was good. >> you ruined by life. >> you were hungry last night. >> we show this every year. i don't think it's funny. >> this is a new one. >> this is the reality, you're
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like an endangered species in the house, if you hide the candy, if you eat the candy. this is what kids do. >> eight months old, the candy is all steal and they still won't give you any. >> if the government were in charge, they would just take half the candy and throw it away. >> and redistrict it. >> am i last here? here's a heart warming story, a 97-year-old woman who became a citizen of the united states from china, her family came here and she moved to minnesota major league and she got her citizenship and she will be voting this year at 97. and the nice news is that she will be voting democratic. she says right here -- >> i didn't make it. bar you talking about? >> she's going to vote democrat. how many times is she going to vote? >> if it were up to me, i like
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the democratic party. look, the fact she became a citizen and she's doing this, and i think it's great. >> for intelligent elect shung coverage, keep it on the fox news channel. bret baier, megyn kelly, we'll see you back here tomorrow. >> we are just an hour away now from the first results of 2014 midterm elections, after months of campaigning, polls are set to close in six states. good evening, everyone, i'm megyn kelley. >> the magic number is 51, a simple majority. here's the balance of power as it stands right now, 55-45. two independents caucus with the
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