to republicans, three days after the gop swept the midterm elections. welcome to this friday edition of "happening now." i'm jon scott. heather: i'm heather nauert in for jenna lee. it has been a long week and certainly a long week for the president and democrats. the president is meeting with congressional leaders very shortly after the white house. a chance for republicans and democrats to talk about bipartisanship. this meeting will include senator mitch mcconnell, the presumed majority leader in the senate and house speaker john boehner. as for the democrats, senate majority leader harry reid will be there, house minority leader nancy pelosi and about a dozen others including our upcoming guests. jon: within a day the president and republicans promising cooperation and already fractures are showing especially on immigration reform. president obama says he will use executive authority if congress can not send him an sentable bill. talk about what this lunch meeting might produce with jamie weinstein, senior editor at "the daily caller."

sheer a center, politics editor at role call. to you first, sheer a. you've been watching a lot of same players in washington for a lot of years. should we expect something. >> i don't expect at this time. i didn't think they did a good job faking it. this was not a ernest kumbayah moment by any means. i think more importantly, mitch mcconnell has his own agenda for the next two years. he wants to make impact as majority leader. president obama more importantly wants to have a legacy item in his second term. he wants to fill something with the second term fill the president obama presidential library and i think that will be immigration. will be interesting to see how that plays out with the more conservative house still than the senate. jon: it is interesting, jamie, you got to wonder if he really is intent on doing something

with executive action through immigration. he has got to wait until this lame-duck session ends, right? because, if he is true to his word, if he is waiting for republicans, republican house and senate to send him a bill that he either likes or doesn't like, he has to wait until that senate convenience in january, doesn't he? >> he does indeed. i think what we're seeing here is nothing more than political theater. it happens after these type of elections all the time. it happened after 2010. everyone comes out and says, it is time for bipartisanship. but reality is, even a lot of democrats will tell you, president obama is not very good building relationships. he hasn't built many relationships with republicans. he hasn't built that many with democrats. look at all the election postmortems. didn't work well with harry reid to keep the democratic senate seats. he didn't work well with him. they are not happy with him. he is not good building relationships working across the aisle or even in his own party. look at the world situation.

he is not very good at building relationships around the world either with world leaders. so i don't see this era of bipartisanship coming to fruition, especially if he tries to pursue executive amnesty which he threatened. that will poison the well further. i don't see this kumbayah moment lasting very much longer. it might even be over as we speak. jon: shira, he talk ad good game on wednesday at that white house house media statement. he says he wants to work with republicans. we're not red state and blue state people. we're all, citizens of the united states. >> i mean what is he supposed to say? well, i never really liked you guys but we'll try to fake it a little bit? the reality, i will say here is something that works in their favor. president obama might not need a relationship with mitch mcconnell. they don't have to be going to "happy hour" every other weekend. the way mitch mcconnell operates, he is all business, okay? so president obama, if they have perfectly professional relationship, there is probably

some hope there, right? they don't need to be best buds and golfing on weekend for them to get something done. they both are extremely professional sometimes loaner fashion politicians. jon: jamie, i thought it was interesting yesterday when the speaker of the house came out for his thursday press conference. he said that he and the president enjoy a pretty good working relationship yet using very strong language talking about how the president will get burped if he tries to force stuff down the throats of this republican led legislature? >> we'll see. i mean there is a lot, especially on some of these, in the house, some of the right in the house who will be very upset, even some calls for impeachmentment. a lot of people think that will be going down the wrong rabbit hole if president obama tries to do executive action or executive amnesty which a lot of people think is unconstitutional. there are areas that you think that the democrats and republicans get together to pass an agenda. tax reform is a big one. even some elements of

immigration, like securing the border and providing visas for high-skilled workers. a lot of people on both sides of the aisle can agree with that. you had this feeling this era of bipartisanship won't last very long. you might get a few things. they will be at loggerheads on a lot of issues. and that is maybe the nature of partisanship, the natural good aspect of it. there are different ideas out there but if you don't have relationships, relationships matter. look at clinton in the '90s. he built relationships. was able to get things done when the republicans took over congress. i don't see that with president obama and this republican congress. jon: well, shira, jamie made the point early this president really doesn't even enjoy tight relationships on the democratic side of the aisle. there are at love democrats who claim that the white house is aloof and distant and not really able, not really inclined to get its hands dirty mixing it up with members of the legislature on, you know, passing bills. you know, designing bills that the president might look.

>> that is exactly right. he never built a whole lot of bridges with senate democrats or house democrats. in fact most of the time he relied on joe biden, vice president in the senate for decades to go communicate. joe biden has been known as the mcconnell whisperer. he goes to serve as communicator between those two. what i will be looking for in the next couple weeks, who the president will nominate for attorney general. that will show a huge, huge indication that will be a huge indication of just how much of a, just how much he will be willing to compromise in the congress going forward. if he nominates someone very palatable to republicans could be a sign he is willing to build a bridge. >> jamie, the president is meeting with his cabinet right now and you know she just talked about, shira just talked about the fact she is looking forward to seeing the name that the president brings forward for his new attorney general. presumably he is going to

present that to harry reid's senate for confirmation. so we ought to be learning that name any day now? >> you would think so. a lot of the rumors that is might be tom perez, a, in the justice department right now. he is seen as on the right as a by a lot of people as a left-winger. so we'll see who he nominates. if he tries to go conciliatory, someone that republicans find palatable, perhaps he will try to seek an era of bipartisanship. a lot of buzz that is not the direction he is going. jon: well, it is going to be interesting -- wouldn't you love to be a nion the wall at the white house in the family dining room today for that launch -- lunch with congressional leaders from both parties? shira center, jamie weinstein. thank you both. >> thank you. heather: we are learning that president obama reportedly wrote a secret letter to the leader of iran. that letter addressed to the ayatollah khomeni last month. it was apparently sent out without congressional input.

"the wall street journal" reporting that it ties cooperation on isis to a deal over iran's nuclear program. congress not too happy about it. leland vittert is following this story from washington. leland, good morning. what is the reaction down there to this? >> reporter: good morning, heather. news of this letter is not playing well in washington. a senior congressional source told our chad pergram in very colorful language that really messes things up. not only congress and everyone else caught off-guard but many worry the engagement with iran will be seen by weakness to sunni-arab countries like egypt, jordan, and qataris who are concerned about iran getting nuclear weapons an influence in iraq. it took a lot of convincing to join the fragile u.s. coalition against isis. >> it seems to be a desperation move to try to get a nuclear arms deal but of great concern is the fact that apparently we're going to work with the

iranians to defeat isis. are we now telling the free syrian army that we're working with the people who are major reasons why they have had some of them slaughtered? i think it's unconscionable. >> reporter: and looking at this in context president obama's promise to build bridges with congress as they say in foreign policy, this revelation is not a confidence-building measure on two fronts. first, working with iran is not a popular idea on capitol hill. and lawmakers don't like being kept in the dark. plus the white house isn't saying much to smooth the waters. josh earnest ducked reporters questions yesterday about that reported letter. >> i'm not in a position to discuss private correspondence between the president and any world leader. i can tell you that the policy that the president and his administration have articulated about iran remains unchanged. we have also discussed on the

sidelines of those talks, at least a couple of occasion, the ongoing campaign that is being conducted against isil. >> reporter: also remember another ally who won't be happy about this, israel. reports, heather, indicate they were not briefed about the letter that was allegedly sent back in october. back to you. heather: wow, unbelievable. leland vittert, thank you. jon: president obama is meeting with his cabinet today at the white house. some remarks just played out for us on tape. let's listen in. >> been steady and strong, digging themselves out of the worst economic crisis since the great depression and what we need now to do is make sure we build on this momentum because we recognize that despite the solid growth, despite the drop in unemployment, there is still a lot of folk out there who are anxious about their futures, who are having trouble making ends meet at the end of the month or saving for their kids college

education being able to make sure they're able to retire with dignity and respect. so everything we do over the next two years is designed and geared towards insuring that folks who work hard in this country are able to get ahead. now obviously we've had a significant midterm election. as i said the at press conference my attitude has been and will continue to be that good ideas don't necessarily come from just one party and i'm looking forward to seeing leaders of both democratic and republican caucuses this afternoon, to have a chance to share with them both what i think we need to be doing to build on the economic momentum that we already have and make it even stronger but i'm also going to be interested in listening to them in terms of areas where we think it's possible to workgeth. whether that is putting people back to work through stronger manufacturing here in the united

states and selling more to countries around the world. one of the major topics we'll be discussing during my asia trip next week, whether it's figuring out how we can build on some modest, new investments we've been making in early childhood education. with know that works and there is strong bipartisan support around the country for some of those investments. let's see if we can do more. all these issues are ones in which there is a strong possibility of bipartisan cooperation as long as we set politics aside for a moment and focus on the people who actually sent us here. in the meantime in these regular meetings i'm having with my cabinet i've been emphasizing to them from day one and will reiterate in this meeting the fact that separate and apart from legislative activity we have the capacity to continually improve how we deliver services

to the american people. part of what's happened over the course of several decade is that people sometimes feel as if the federal government is distant, that it is not customer-friendly, that there's too much bureaucracy and because of the fine work of many of the members of this cabinet what we've been able to do is start chipping away at some of the old ways doing business and start instituting new ways of doing business, that improve customer service, that make sure people are getting help they need. this week i had a chance to welcome, and have a conversation with our new secretary of veterans affairs, bob mcdonald who is coming from the private sector and coming from west point and extraordinary legacy of service in our armed forces and what we're already seeing is that bob is able to start

skinning down the wait times for people in terms of getting appointments that they need but also building on successes that have been taking place over the last several years, reducing homelessness, for example, with our hud secretary donovan and now cast slow. we reduced veterans homelessness by 30%. a lot of that is not by virtue of new legislation. by us focusing more on these problems and managing them better and continually listening to the american people to see how we can be more helpful. there are a lot of opportunities for us to do that here today and i think we'll take an inventory of progress being made in various departments. we're also going to focus on the fact between now and the end. year there is still some immediate work that needs to be done. we have made progress in building the kind of public health infrastructure that we need to deal with any eventualities with respect to ebola but, it is still concern

both here domestically but most importantly still a concern internationally. so we'll get reports from sill very yu burr well as well as -- sylvia burrwell as well as susan rice involved with the fight. ron klain is here, will tell us how the work we need to be doing with congress can help advance and ultimately stamp out this epidemic overseas to make sure that the american people are safe. we also have some significant national security issues. we have to make sure our efforts against isil are properly funded and so that will be an opportunity for secretary of defense hagel to brief us in our progress in the campaign against isil in iraq and some of the work we're doing in syria. so, bottom line is that as i've told my white house staff and i've shared in the past with many of my cabinet, we are

extraordinarily privileged to be in a position where every single day we can have positive impact in some way on the lives of the american people and when i started out on this journey with joe biden and we traveled around the country, we were constantly reminded, of the hard work, the sense of community, the sense of family that exists in every pocket and in every corner this country. the same kinds of values that joe grew up on and i grew up on. and, what we want to do is make sure that between now and the time that next administration takes over, that every single day in every single agency, we are constantly finding ways to build on those values and to make sure that we are making this country safer, and more prosperous. and i know that based on the conversations i've had with this

cabinet there is no lack of enthusiasm or energy in achieving that, achieving that goal. all right? thank you very much, everybody. >> sir -- >> thank you very much. >> thank you, guys. jon: all right, the president in no mood apparently to take questions. you heard him there sounding republican themes, talking about the fact his cabinet he says, has cut, helped cut through red tape. made government less complicated and more responsive to the american people. some remarks from the president there as he assembles his cabinet on this friday. we're also expectings to hear from him couple hours from now as he sits down with leadership with both parties in the house and senate. heather has more. heather: just taking place about an hour from now, top republicans heading for the bipartisan lunch today. president obama and republican leaders promising to work together after tuesday's midterm

sweeps by republicans. house speaker john boehner said it was a clear referendum on the president. >> i believe that the president continues to act on his own he is going to poison the well. when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. he will burn himself if he continues to go down this path. the american people made it clear election day. they want to get things done and they don't wan the president acting on unilateral basis. heather: joining us from capitol hill, wyoming senator john barosso, senate republican policy committee chairman and member of the senate foreign relations committee. you will be at that meet in a short while. what do you think will come out of it? >> i think it's a time to listen to the president and i want to work together in bipartisan way actually breaking through the gridlock that we've had in washington and focus on jobs, energy, the economy, affordable health care, things that we can actually do to get the country moving together and most of

these are bills that have already passed congress in a bipartisan way but harry reid has blocked from coming out of the senate so i would like to hear the president working with us on those issues. heather: okay. one thing i want to ask you about is the issue of immigration and six of your republican colleagues sent a letter to harry reid, basically saying that the supreme court said that congress has the purview over the issue of immigration. this of course as the president said he will do, use his executive action against that, or on that issue. this letter says in part, president obama will be exercising powers properly belonging to congress, if he makes good on his threat, this will create a constitutional crisis that demands action by congress to restore the separation of powers. what is your reaction to that letter? >> well, i agree with them. i think that the president's decision if he does that would be a toxic decision. an he really shouldn't go down that road. i understand the president is trying to regain his footing and

improve his re he will vans after a very tough election that he lost. his policies lost all around the country. but, heather, no one ran for office this year campaigning to say the president ought to do more executive orders and specifically on immigration. heather: what is specifically are republicans are prepared to do about it? >> i will say there will be a swift and proportional response if the president take this is action and i believe it would be a mistake for the president to go down this road. heather: let me ask you about potential areas of agreement, one of the things that stalled immigration reform was an, in the house specifically were folks were concerned that the president wouldn't fulfill his obligations or his agreement on border security. are there any areas of agreement when it comes to border security, something that is so important to so many americans according to the polls? >> well, border security is key. we need to modernize our immigration laws. and that is the reason that think we ought to come back together after the new, the new senate and house are sworn in

january and focus on that. and certainly border security is the key to all of it. after you make sure that the borders are secure, then you can talk about all of these other components. heather: okay. but then the president action though before the next congress could eliminate a lot of what you guys would like to do in the next congress about that. what is your take on that? >> well i still think it would be a terrible mistake for the president, this close to an election where his policies all across the country were defeated soundly that he shouldn't head in this direction. heather: all right. senator barosso. best of luck to all of you at the meeting. >> thanks, heather. jon: some shocking surveillance video of a hospital patient going berzerk, attacking nurses with a metal pole. we'll tell you how all of this ended. and is president obama in touch with a sworn enemy of the united states? coming up details on a secret

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heather: right now shocking surveillance video from a hospital in minnesota, showing a horrific rampage by a patient. his weapon was a metal pole that he reportedly ripped from his bed. he attacked four nurses there, two of them seriously injure. one suffering a collapsed lung. the patient eventually was taser by police outside of the hospital where he died a short time later. police say he was treated for paranoia following routine surgery. jon: there is growing controversy over reports that president obama sent a secret letter to iran's supreme leader last month. apparently the letter was meant to open communication with what many consider that rogue regime

about the war against isis. lawmakers on capitol hill are slamming the move as outrage just and potentially dangerous. all of this comes amid more reports of yet another setback regarding iran's nuclear program. talk about it with jillian turner, former white house national security staff member under president george w. bush. and president obama. potentially dangerous, outrageous, that is the feeling from some on capitol hill. you see it a little differently? >> i do. before we pass judgment on the president's choice here we need too really consider why he made this decision and why now. i would offer this moment presents a unique set of challenges and opportunities in terms of managing the u.s.-iranian bilateral relationship and also penning a letter to a foreign head of state is well within the bounds of presidential prerogative. it is also fairly, you know, common practice. it is a standard tool that's available to the president and

his foreign policy tool box. jon: there is a reason that we have, you know, one president and one person making the foreign policy decisions. so if he wants to write a secret letter that in of itself is certainly within his prerogative. the question is, what is he saying, what is he offering? >> well, look, i wan to point out that the dynamic with iran has really changed over the last year or so in the sense, in a limited sense but here's what's happened. three things. number one, we inked an interim deal with the iranians. number two the ahmadinejad regime was replaced by president rouhani elected in being more moderate, willing to resolve the nuclear issue with the west and isis emerged as common enemy. there is new geostrategic reality on the ground that the administration is trying to grapple with. jon: yet the u.n. nuclear watchdog agency is just out today with a report that

suggests that iran is still not answering questions about how it tried to build or may have tried to build a nuclear weapon. they are two months behind in reporting all of this. and you know the agreement that is supposed to wrap this up is supposed, is supposed to be happening within the next month or so. >> yes. at the, towards of end of this month and you know, regardless of the isis threat which as we know considerable, both to national security here at home and to middle east regional stability, preventing a nuclear iran remains this government's probably foremost strategic priority. and has been for many years now. so, you know, you're right to say that the president definitely need to be mindful of the legislative branch here and needs not to anger them at a time when wants to bring them in and kind of harness support for these nuclear meg shuns but at the same time the president is really in a unique position in

terms of balancing these two issues against one another and making sure that the correct amount of emphasize is -- emfasis is given to each issues. jon: but isn't a in a word is nuclear iran far more dangerous than isis even? >> absolutely, absolutely. i'll trying to make the point that a different particular moment the administration is dealing with different issues and trying not to lump together and try to deal with everything all the once. jon: gillian turner, former member of the white house national security staff. thank you for your expertise. >> thank you, jon. heather: we have republicans and democrats after the midterm elections but how did the media do here at fox? we are proud the h of the work we did at fox and ratings. some people not so pleased with coverage of these races. we'll tell you about that. can you believe it has been 25 years since an icon of the cold war came down. it stunned the world and opened the floodgates of freedom. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this

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that you might actually want to get tested anyway because up to 90% of people who think they're allergic to penicillin may actually not be. a two-year-old girl is now safe at home after wandering the woods in michigan for nearly 24 hours. she was tracked down by a trooper and also his k-9 partner. welcome home. jon: did you watch the news coverage of the midterm elections tuesday night? the broadcast networks gave them only minimal attention as the votes came in. but some groups are upset over what coverage there was especially leading up to tuesday night, particularly in north carolina and georgia. republicans especially hot about that. talk about with judy miller, a pulitzer price winning investigative reporter and fox news contributor. lynn sweet is washington bureau chief for the chicago sun times. in particular in those two race, judy, republicans complained that the press, the media overall didn't go after kay

hagan, the democratic candidate in north carolina, the democratic incumbent saying that her family benefited from the stimulus. there were some information about that the media didn't pick up on. conversely the georgia the media went hard after david perdue, the republican candidate. what do you think about the complaints? >> well i think that the republicans don't have a lot to complain about given the results of this election. i meanwhile you can't say it was a mandate for the republicans you can definitely say that it was a wave for them and against the sitting president whose policies as he said were on the table. look, of course reporters tend to glom on to a story. they do read each other tweets as one republican official complained. perhaps they focus too much on kay hagan. look at the outcome of these races. i'm much more intrigued by the fact that the polls once again didn't quite get it right. they got the trend, they dip get

the wave that was sweeping the country. and also, i think it is interesting that fox news, which covered these race intense systemly and abc and other broadcast networks which did not, fox actually beat them on the night of election when all was being determined. so i think there is a lot to chew over here but i don't think the republicans are, have any grounds to complain. they have done very well this time. >> we'll get to the polling in a minute, lynn, but what about the complaints from primarily republicans about the fairness of the overall coverage? >> well this is, as judy said, this is kind of a unique situation that the winners are complaining that they didn't get the right coverage. so, okay, maybe if they had more of a spotlight they wouldn't have gotten outcome they wanted. i would say sometimes you take your win and go with it. now, a lot of times the differences in coverage, if it is tougher, not tougher, has much to do with reporters on the

ground. who has time, how hard or easy it is to get information. judy knows an investigative reporter can only go with what they have. sometimes you do first the story that you can get. could have been that. but again, the idea that the republicans are complain about their media coverage, given the great victories they have is kind of like okay, well, listen, what else you got? jon: to you, lynn are on the point that judy made, ward baker the national senatorial republican committee chair, you all read each other's tweets. the press feed off stories each other are filing f they file a story about republicans not doing well or david perdue being an outsourcer, that kind of gets into the media bloodstream. what do you think? >> i think that's so. which is why good campaigns try to generate stories that they think that the, the story they have to tell doesn't get out.

if somebody does something controversial, says something controversial, everybody will use it. analysis may be different. my god we know that from knowing how the news analysts say things. so, it isn't a mat they're reporters are copying each other. it matters to a degree what are the facts out there, what the candidates themselves are saying or doing. jon: what about the polling, judy? republicans did far better than most people expected them to? for instance, in virginia, ed gillespie neck-and-neck almost in sitting senator with a race that wasn't supposed to be close. >> that is makes politics wonderful. every now and then people don't react as the polls tell them they're going to and that is exactly what happened this time. i mean i think it is interesting that most of the polls were skewed in favor of the democrats and that they counted on a larger turnout among women and minorities and that is in part of the democrat, because of the democratic spin.

democrats said we've really got our ground game in order here and we're getting all of our voters out. whereas in fact the republicans were very quietly doing exactly the same thing. so once again polling is an art as much as a science as we've seen in this race. jon: what is the moral, lynn, for voters and for viewers for next time around? >> well the moral is in virginia they have to get their polling straight because no one saw the eric cantor defeat coming in the republican primary. maybe there are just not sampling of republicans or republican leaners. in that one state i think moral is, don't, don't vote on just what a poll says, do your vote and on what you want to do. i mean if, moral for an individual voter and for reporters, do your own work. just don't cover the horse race. and, feet on the ground, shoes on the ground, knocking on your own doors talking to people give as feel that you, that reporters can use to know when to downplay a poll that seeps, like an

outlyer. >> you just can't do reporting by polls. jon: good point. lynn sweet, judy miller, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. heather: we now know the name of the navy seal who killed usama bin laden and fox news has the exclusive television interview. our peter doocy made the first contact with rob better o'neill. he sat down last night with megyn kelly to talk about how this all came about. listen. >> he and i met. we got connected through a third party and over time we developed a relationship and this summer something happened that we cover in the special where he decided, now is when i want to tell the story. now when i want to reveal myself. heather: wow, this is something you do not want to miss. the man who killed usama bin laden. it's a two-night special. it begins tuesday at 10 p.m. eastern time. of course that is veterans day. that is here on fox news channel. jon: he is taking some heat about all of this too. heather: certainly is. jon: it will be fascinate to watch. former nfl cheerleader plead not

guilty to charges including rape stemming from a alleged sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy, the french of one of her sons. what is next for this mother of three? our legal panel weighs in. very happy ending in the search for a two-year-old girl lost in the woods. wait until you hear her first words when rescuers found her. ó

jon: 16 minutes away from "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. andrea and harris what is coming up. >> we can't wait, jon. president obama set to roll out the welcome mat for republican leaders at white house. can those guys, and women, bury the hatchet and reach a deal on some critical matters or will the fingerpointing continue. >> i wonder what they will eat? women saw big gains on election day reaching a record number of congress. why do so many ladies in both parties say their strides are not big enough. update to story we told, but the controversy over victoria

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you have come around on this issue. >> i have. when i 15-year-old boy i wouldn't have told you this is against the law. as federal prosecutor as data comes in you mentioned shows these are very dangerous crimes and debilitating crimes go on and they leave social scars i fet it. unfortunately i think this woman has got serious, serious issues. and she is going to be called to pay for her crimes. >> esther, you say there may be mitigating factors and that could come into play here. what could those be? >> it is possible she has an underlying mental illness, aside from if she is in fact guilty of the crimes charged pedophilia, which may have some bearing on explanation why she did this it does not appear, at least not yet there is a pattern of this with this woman. it appears so far this is a one-time event. i'm not justifying it. it is disgusting. the ew factor, icch factor is off the charts but it may have things to explain. heather: okay. this is lady by many accounts seemed to have everything going for her.

a mother of three young children. married to a billionaire down in baltimore. she had a terrific figure. she was a baltimore ravens cheerleader, oldest one ever. her son apparently introduced her to the young man in question online. and she apparently, her son apparently texted the boy, quote, my mom is obsessed with you. her son has come unsome criticism for having told his mother that but you can't blame that young son. he didn't know what he was doing. or the mess that this caused the family. >> well you can't. >> you can't blame the son. he is as much a victim as the vick tim. he certainly a victim of his mother who went, was obsessing about another 15-year-old boy. so, i think there is some dysfunction that will ultimately be found in this family. >> dysfunction? >> both generations. >> certainly. fred, at some point that boy's parents found out and they're the ones who apparently called police. what do you think the outcome of

this case will be? >> oh the outcome of this case there will be a guilty plea. this women will have to get help she needs. i don't see a trial. evidence against the woman is overwhelming. heather: move on to the second topic and we'll keep folks posted as this develops. we mentioned her husband filed for divorce not long after all this came out. surprise in. >> do you think? heather: deliberations resumed in bizarre murder case we've been covering taking place in pennsylvania. a medical researcher. robert ferran tee. he worked on als. he is accused using cyanide to poison his wife. she died after three days in the hospital. he is saying that he bought the cyanide through work and that it was part of what he used in his research. how is this argument going over? >> this argument is not going to fly in any way, shape or form. basically lawyers arguing that the evidence is so overwhelming against a guy that he has to be

innocent. the guy did computer searches for poisoning cyanide. people testified there was no research going on that required cyanide. he ordered it. eight grams were missing. his fingerprints are on the bottle. this guy, nice try but he is guilty as all get out. heather: esther, how on earth could his wife consumed cyanide if he didn't give it to her. >> i have no idea. i know that the defendant is arguing reasonable doubt. they did present experts it is not conclusive she died from poisoning. and so if you believe she didn't die of poisoning or there is doubt to it, you could find him not guilty. i will say though, i feel bad for the defense attorneys. this is a desperate, hail mary to say, their defense is, she either didn't die from poisoning, or that he is not that stupid to poison her, google something and leave a fingerprint on the bottle. yet it is a desperate defense and, i, i agree with fred in this case. it is very bad facts.

>> some -- cyanide. funny that he went to wickpy pea yaw. you wouldn't think he would not need to go to wikipedia to learn about cyanide. >> right. heather: talk about motive, fred. >> right. >> they were financially well off. they did say they had some difficulties. do we know anything about any kind of possible host tiff? >> there is allegation the marriage was on the rocks. they were trying to have a second child. she was complaining the guy was distant and unresponsive. at the end of the day though, a 41-year-old, otherwise healthy woman trying to get pregnant to have her second child doesn't drop dead in the kitchen. a guy allegedly a research expert doesn't need to do cyanide research. esther is right. when you're a defense lawyer you don't get to pick the facts. you can't file a motion to change the facts. they are what they are. in this case this guy is guilty as sin. heather: all right. we have to leave it there. how do you really feel. fred tecce, thanks so much. esther, thank you as well. >> thanks for having me.

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wall which separated east beryl inwith the west. they will be set aloft on sunday to the strains of ode to joy symphony. for those of us lucky to be there 25 years ago, it was amazing for long divided germans, for the world witnessing symbolically the end of the cold war. or was it. incredibly many years later, we're talking about a possible new cold war, with a newly assertive russia and vladmir putin seizing territory in ukraine, testing nato defenses, taunting the u.s. according to one expert, additionally, we are losing so far this one. take a listen. >> putin is winning. he managed to divide ukraine and get away with it. he managed to intimidate the west and get away with it. he shown us up for being weak and divided. my big worry he will push his advantage in the baltic states. if i can bust nato in the baltic states i bust nato permanently

and get americans out of europe. >> reporter: analysts say putin does not want to erect a new berlin wall or iron curtain. he wants europe on its own terms. they go on to say the u.s. was better prepared to deal with the soviet union 20 five years ago. then it was superpower to superpower. now the global geopolitical scene is much more fragmented, the west more easily distracted. they do acknowledge that putin's russia is smaller and arguably weaker than the old soviet union. they also say a fading empire, flailing for power can be equally dangerous especially, jon, when they have all those nuclear weapons. back to you. >> scary situation and you looked great in that video from 25 years ago. greg palkot. new that jon. jon: thank you. heather: we have a segment coming up on that in the next hour. we'll talk to major general bob scales about putin's ambitions. you want to watch that one. meantime coming up in the next hour, also coming up i should say doctors say don't binge diet when you try to lose a few

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