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disclosure. i remember a guy explaining to his friend's daughter why did god do this? he said god didn't do this. the devil did it. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> real problem with race in america is beaten down self-defeating under class. >> commentator ben stein going after the liberal deception involving black americans. we'll analyze this growing problem. >> get a law which made explicit healthy people pay sick people money the law would not pass. >> mit professor says deception was used in passing the law. john stossel has been investigating that. >> it's a new book making some shocking claims about the life of jesus christ. according to the lost gospel, jesus married mary so tonight, a shocking two media hoax, an outrageous
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book making false claims about jesus and tv is picking it up. >> if it pleases the court, and even if it doesn't please the court, i'm god, your honor. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly, thanks for watching us tonight. mistreating black americans. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. a report today says that people who live in and around ferguson, missouri are buying guns at a record rate. that's because the decision on the police shooting of michael brown is too soon and could be more rioting in that area. all over the u.s.a., liberal pundits continue to say that blacks are are being mistreated by society in general, but especially by the police. they use phrases like white privilege, police racism, things like that. now, there is no question that african-americans are struggling in our
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competitive country. the black unemployment rate almost 11%. it's 4.8% for whites. unemployment for blacks ages 16 to 24 an astounding 122%. median household income for blacks, $34,600. for whites, $58,270. poverty rate 27% for blacks, about 9.5% for whites. so you can see that economically african-americans are suffering. there is no question about it. but why? are we truly a racist nation or is there something else here? a college education is the ticket to economic success in america. but culture, culture is also a big issue. enter, commentator ben stein who said this on news max tv. >> you would think if you read the liberal mainstream media the main problem with race in america was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police. that's just nonsense.
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i mean, the real problem with race in america is a very, very beaten down static, self-defeating black underclass. i mean, it's an amazing thing. blacks are on their way in this country, even after the horrors of slavery, and then drugs came in. the destruction of families came in, and the crisis in the black community is just absolutely unbelievable. and that, it seems to me something that mr. obama could have addressed. he has ignored it completely. >> that's not entirely true. president obama has initiated the my brother's keeper program which is well thought out, providing mentors to young black males and getting corporations to help black youth. because of history, america does owe blacks extra help. but talking points has said again and again that it's the collapse of the african-american f famil that has led mostly to the economic chaos. stats are well known. 72% of all black babies now born out of wedlock. 72%. 45% of black homes headed by
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a woman. the desertion rate for african-american men astronomical. that's the truth. and that is why the poorest precincts continue to suffer. as everybody knows, poverty leads to crirges drug abuse, hopelessness, in chicago, black gangs terrorize entire neighborhoods. essentially brutalizing their own people. for some reason the white power structure in chicago, which is very liberal, is not able to control the black bang gangs, for some reason. president obama has not paid much attention to that problem, although we think he grieves about it because he used to work there. but there is only so much the feds can do. throwing money at the situation doesn't work. cultural violence and chaos is a local problem. and it combative african-americans themselves have to rise up and demand protection. more importantly, they have to condemn irresponsible behavior by their own. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction, with us
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here in new york city monica and kirsten powers. >> i think what ben stein said, whatever his intentions were did not come off very well, referring, to you know, black people as pathetic, you know, self-defeated. i don't think that that's an accurate description of african-americans. >> yeah, but he said the black under class. he didn't say all african-americans. >> okay. so the black underclass is sympathetic and defeated. >> i don't think that's true and i think that it is -- it sounds racist to me, actually. and i am not somebody to throw that word around. i think that to talk about a group of people who are underemployed, which conservatives like to point out all the time to blame on barack obama as if president. >> let's get out of the theoretical and let me ask you one straightforward question. >> okay.
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>> if a african-american young person drops out of high school, okay? and doesn't get a skill. doesn't learn a skill. would you say that is self-defeating? >> i don't know the circumstances. it certainly is a bad decision. you know, i don't think -- here's the problem with what you you are saying, bill, that's not -- that's not -- dropping out of high school is not where the problem starts. >> yeah, it is. >> the problem, no, you always refuse to acknowledge that there is institutional racism in this country. >> okay. because you can't prove it, powers. >> racism in this country. >> you can't prove it. all i will say to you is this: if you don't know that every single corporation in this country actively wants to hire educated black people and colleges are looking to provide aid and acceptance letters to african-americans. if you don't know that. >> it's t. was happening before that, bill. >> okay, before that, all right. fine. let me get into monica and then to you.
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>> okay. >> well, obviously this is a complex wish a lot of moving parts. but i think that ben stein really hit on a critical part of this is which is that for he decades the black community was largely conservative. martin luther king was a registered republican. they were church going. they had solid traditional values. after the civil rights movement, the left got into that community and helped to destroy it. through government dependency. government dependency then opens the door to a whole range of problems. drugs, crime, the breakdown of the family, all the stuff that you have been talking about. the left needs a permanent underclass because without that permanent underclass, they're out of business. so that's why the they perpetuate this. >> i don't know how welfare benefits destroy families. i know how they sap motivation in some cases, but i don't know how a welfare benefit can make a man abandon his children. that's the big issue here. >> but, like i said, it opens the door to awful
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these issues -- >> -- i don't think it opens the door, monica. >> left for decades under the guise of trying to help the black community, when which we know is completely bogus. has pushed these programs down. >> i don't see the linkage between the personal behavior and the left's embrace of entitlements. >> less dependent on government less inclined to be self-sufficient. >> that's sapping motivation, it doesn't lead to derelict behavior like abandonment. think about it. >> one generation to another. >> i'm not buying that the leftist opinion of welfare leads to bad personal behavior. >> thank you, bill i'm not buying it. >> thank you, bill. what do you is what jon stewart does, the whole crew. all right? well, because there was slavery and because there was jim crow and unfairness, 50, 60, 100 years ago, we can't, as a nation, expect african-americans to compete, that's con descending. >> no, that's not what i said. >> that's condescending to them. >> the way you just restated
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what i said is not what i said. i didn't say we can't expect them to. >> go. >> i just want to point out when conservatives bring up as monica just did this idea that martin luther king jr. was a conservative, he was not a conservative. he was a republican and. >> hold on. >> entirely different things. >> i agree with you. >> you cannot compare back then a republican does not mean the same thing that it means today. so, you know, that's not true. i think african-american families are still largely church going. i don't think that is something that was just in the past. and i think that -- >> -- i don't believe that's true. >> write off 50 years ago as if it was so long ago like it was 500 years ago. people. >> condescending injustices compete people from competing today. >> grandparents who grew up in segregation. stop trying to act like it was 500 years ago. >> those grandparents largely are appalled at the abandonment, the drug addiction, the rap industry, those grandparents hate that. last word to you? >> you are leaving out also the fact that.
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>> i would just say that this cult of victim hood dependency that hereby pushed down on the black community which has been most victimized by the left has been crime about against hume. the one thing, the one thing, bill that a black president can do that a white president cannot is address these issues and for the most part in the last six years, barack obama has been essentially awol. that's not true. >> he gave one speech campaigning in 2008. >> he hasn't made it a central issue. >> spoken about it any more than any other president i can think of. >> say one more thing before i let you go. good debate and i appreciate you guys. >> why aren't black americans demonstrating in chicago against what's going on there? why are they in ferguson and not in chicago? they could be both places? but they allow that to happen in chicago and it's outrageous. next on the rundown, will the stonewall surrounding alleged irs abuse crumble? thought republicans are controlling congress? we have a factor investigation. later one of the architects
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seven months ago. >> under federal law, she then should have been prosecuted by the justice department and a grand jury convened to hear the evidence but holder didn't do that correct? >> that's right. they did absolutely nothing about it didn't comply with federal law. so congress, who has already held holder in contempt once, could hold him in contempt again for not doing this? is that correct? >> well, yeah. i mean, they could hold her. but what they need to do is they need to go to court to enforce that contempt citation on their own. plus, they need to haul in the u.s. attorney general -- attorney for the district of columbia and find why in the world he hasn't complied with federal law and presented to a grand jury. >> you mean the u.s. should go into front of a congressional hearing. >> that's right. >> you are saying the congress has the power themselves to convene a grand glure do they have that power? >> no. but they can go to court and try to get a judge to
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enforce the contempt citation the way they had to go to court on their own to enforce the contempt citation against eric holder, which they are in court about right now. >> all right. and the congress hasn't done that but, now maybe they will. but maybe they won't. the only way we're going to find out what happened is if lois lerner, i think, gets immunity. but she may not testify anyway. she might just stay to the fact that i don't know anything and all my emails have disappeared magically. so you don't have anything on me. you can't get me. >> well, that's another place where the irs, we recently learned, actually hasn't served their computer systems to try to those. >> they say it's hopeless. why should we bother? >> yeah,well, that's something that he they won't know until they actually try and do it. the way they are supposed to. and have been ordered to do so by a court. >> but they are not going to it do it. all right. there are other things involved here too. the irs will leak stuff to the press illegally about certain people, correct?
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>> yeah. they leak donor information on an organization called the national organization for marriage. and they actually admitted they had done it, paid them 50,000 todd's settle the case. but, justice department has not prosecuted the individual. >> the leaders. >> right. >> that's a crime. tea party woman in texas who they audited like a zillion times, right? >> yeah. and instead of trying tou investigate why and how that happened, instead, the justice department went to court and got the case dismissed that she had filed against the government. >> all right. so that, they can't do anything about right now. the two things in play are are the leaks against the marriage group and the lois lerner targeting conservative group allegation. do you expect, last question real quick, congress to get to the bottom of this? >> yeah, now that the senate is going to be controlled by republicans, they can add their weight to try and investigate it. up until now. >> do you expect them to do it? >> yeah. i do expect them to do it.
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>> all right. >> because they have to. if they want to reform the irs. >> all right. now, krauthammer is going to weigh in on this later on as well. but i'm not so sure they will do it, but we will see. directly ahead, oh, thank you very much mr. spakovsky. stossel on a statement that deception was used to pass obamacare. is that true? then is it legal, teachers being beaten by students and those students not expelled. those reports after these messages. how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing.
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the bill dies. make explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money it would not have passed. just like -- transparent -- lack of transparency is a a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the american voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. >> now, we asked dr. grube to come on the program. he has been with us now but is he hiding now. >> congressional budget office. what was the point there. >> we don't want to call it taxes. we don't want to have them calling it taxes. people don't like taxes. >> all right. so even though it is a tax, obamacare. >> we will call it penalties. >> but not supreme court of the chief justice of the supreme court called it a tax. >> well,. >> that's why he ruled it was okay. >> that's right. >> all right. so that was deception number one. it is a tax but don't call it that because people wouldn't like it. deception number two is that
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stossel and me pay in toes exchange at a rate that's higher than perhaps insurance we already hold. and then the money gets transferred to people who free healthcare, right? >> not so much how affluent but how healthy. and that's just insurance. they were selling this plan as free stuff for everyone. but the truth is, it's insurance. so if you are healthy, you are going to pay in to cover the sick people. but, the un. >> unbelievable rise in the co-pays and the deductibles, come on, you must know what's going ono/z' there. >> people don't -- i mean, he talked about the stupid electorate. >> yes. >> he has a point. not that people are so stupid, though some are. but people are lives. they are not paying attention. >> they don't pay attention to a 1200 page bill. >> right. >> however, there was deception in the sense that the president went on national television and said, hey, there is not
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going to be any change. most americans will pay less. most americans aren't paying less. >> and you you can keep your doctor. >> but that's the side. the deception that gruber is talking about he got paid $400,000 and then went on tv programs and didn't mention he was getting paid by the administration. >> he was paid $400,000 to consult on obamacare? >> he helped create it helped create romney care. >> he admits that the lack of transparency on this was helpful because it fooled all the dopey americans who don't pay attention. >> why are you surprised? this is what they do not surprised. i want it to be clear. >> they do this all the time. dodd frank was supposed to get rid of too big to fail. it didn't. they say shovel ready jobs. they say raise it less than
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we plan. when they got complaints about it at the thought 'back up. >> not all of it. it's in a different form or something like that. >> there is several forms. this has been available for over a year. >> i didn't even know about it. >> somebody noticed. >> do you, john stossel, believe that the american people were legitimately conned over obamacare? it was a well thought out con job? >> yes. >> you do? >> and we are conned every time we pass big bills. >> this effects almost every american. >> it's consistent with the way government grows. >> john stossel, everybody, plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. we have lots of questions for charles krauthammer about obamacare. the irs, and the president in china. but, first, is it legal on a high ranking immigration official suing the government for not enforcing
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of the iraq and afghanistan wars. i spoke with him last night. you said we have lost it? >> we have. and, bill, i will tell you, the sad part about it is we didn't have to lose it. we had it won in 2001. we went in there with a very short, decisive operation at the outset led by special forces and air power. brought in marine and army infantry to wrap it up. within a few weeks we knocked out the taliban and put al qaeda on the run and then we didn't have enough sense to pull out and turn it over. >> had we pulled out, the taliban would have come back, who knows what would have happened but today in kabul is a functioning government. we may not like it. it may be weak but it's there. you expect it to fall when -- because we are going to leave a residual force in afghanistan, unlike what we did in iraq. do you expect. >> only briefly. we are going to leave less than 10,000. i mean, it's kind of could you tell use when the government says we are going to leave 9800 rather than
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10,000, which is to say a division of troops. why 9800? why are are they only stay ago year? >> >> but in iraq when we left there was a stable situation, relatively stable. so we pull out of there. don't leave the force, big mistake. i think everybody agrees that it was a mistake. now we have to put guys back in. but, again, you say we lost the iraq war? >> yeah, we did. and part of it is we -- we talk about putting our guys. in pulling our guys out. leaving our guys there 8, 10, 12 years. you have got to remember when you are fighting insurgency it's the local people that have to have the lead. the iraqis, the afghans, when we go in and do it for them, we actually set them back. when they take the lead, it's messy. look what's going on iraq now. they are not doing it the way. >> they don't want to fight. in afghanistan they would not have fought the taliban and we have h. to fight them because they protected al qaeda and al qaeda attacked us. iraq they don't want to fight the bad guys there is this tribalism the one tribe may, the other tribe
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doesn't. it's chaos. i don't agree the u.s.a. lost the wars. i agree that we shouldn't have fought them the way they were fought. that it was impossible. >> i'm in agreement with you. because we had both wars won and then backed away from those victories. >> right. if we had left a 10,000 man force in iraq i don't think isis would have done whether a it did. do you agree there? >> no. because the challenge in iraq was the baghdad government was still very sectarian and had already alienated a lot of insurgents gone over with isis. >> last question. let's evaluate the two presidents as war time presidents. president bush, all right. he is a warrior. he took the fight even this week he admitted we didn't make any mistakes in iraq. he would have done it the same way. all right. so is he clueless? >>. no is he not clueless. but i think what i would say, bill, and both for him and for the current president, they work on the best military advice they have. and what bugs me as a military guy is i don't think we gave them the best military advice.
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i think we should have told them our military is built for short, decisive operations. it's built for desert storm. not vietnam. when we let ourselves back in to these lengthy counter insurgencies in both countries, yeah, we have got great men and women in our military. they are tremendous. we can't trade everything on their skill and innovation and willingness to sacrifice. >> local population has to cooperate and afghanistan and iraq they obviously didn't to the extent we needed it barack obama doesn't seem to be a warrior at all. he doesn't like conflict. not a confrontational man. that differs from president bush. you say the results are the same? >> yeah. net result is the same. remember, and i'm a good example of it it the same generals and admirals by and large served both guys. same inadequate military advice. that's where i think we own some of this problem. >> all right. general. thanks for coming in. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> when we come right back, is it legal on a violent high school in philadelphia where teachers are being beaten by students who are not expelled.
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patricia vroon chief council for responsibility for ice. she is suing the department of security for a number of things saying she faced retaliation because she objected to ice being ordered not to enforce immigration law. here now to explain further we hope, attorneys and fox news analyst kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. so ms. vroom says was ordered to do what? >> to not enforce immigration laws. >> like what? >> if you are illegal immigrant and you got dui, don't go after those guys, it's a low level beef. don't go after them. if you had some document fraud, don't go after those guys. what her supervisors were telling her. she said no, that's not how i was brought up. been there 2a1jz3 >> i researched this as well, ladies because i wanted to be simpatico with you. >> sure. >> there was a voter fraud case. >> a voter fraud case, exactly. >> where illegalú!ñz alien voted a a number of times. >> twice, right. >> illegally.
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>> right. >> ms. vroom wanted to have the guy arrested and charged. >> right. >> the superiors in washington said. >> don't do. >> no, don't do it. >> so now she says, guilfoyle, that because she was a pain in the you know what, all right, that they, ice, started to do, what? >> essentially discriminate against her. she started to receive unfavorable reviews when prior to that she had received the highest. >> they were poisoning her jacket, putting bad letters in. >> she says that this became a hostile work environment. she is alleging age and gender discrimination. >> how old isijav she? >> she is 59 years of age. 26 years with this department. >> i think that's a foolish play. the ageism and the genderrism. but i think this. >> it it's a way to get it into court. >> she couldn't get it in the other way. >> gender discrimination. you have got to allege. >> civil rights violation. >> here is why it is important. what they said to her in
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these rap sheets, basically, dot1up terring, she can't keep up with the times. that's ageism. >> they diminish her in a personal way? >> exactly. >> i got it now. all right. so then i reverse myself. then by using that she gets ité0x in upfront by saying this i'm doing this because i wanted to -- >> -- i'm trying to enforce the law. >> i'm trying to do my job as a federal official. >> exactly. >> and they'rew they can't. >> assigning you both homework assignment. >> take out the pen. >> follow this case and give us periodic@bkwj updates. >> she has got a good case. bartrum high school, okay? 68-year-old substitute english teacher gets knocked out by a student. roll the tape. >> video which captured the 68-year-old teacher motionless in a harv of the school seconds after the attack. >> the minute your head hit the ground. >> yeah. >> you were out? >> i was out. >> johnson, who was working at the school as a substitute english teacher this all studented when a
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female student sat on a male student's last. >> he said get f from my fist. so i said well, this is against school regulation. >> when johnson threatened to go to the principal's office to report the pair, he says the male student the president of the teacher's union blames what happened to him on the district. there have been two other similar attacks in a month. >> all right. this is a troubled high school, guilfoyle, correct? >> yes, and they have been having problems in that school district in general. that becomesmt[ñ important. if there is a a pattern of a conduct that is inappropriate, you have to have a positive teaching environment. he has physically injured. he will be pressing criminal charges against the student. the student is currently -- the identity has not been released, of course. but the student has been suspended. >> but not expelled? >> not yet. >> and. >> process five days. >> whand, you kroncke, any other -- you kroncke, students who beat the
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teachers up weren't expelled either. >> this is the third time october 9th and then this last one november 6th. here is what i think will happen, first of all, he will pursue the criminal charges, that will go forward, right? because you always want to have challenge charges. >> video he got it. >> you always -- >> -- exactly. then there will be a civil case and what he will allege is look at this, you knew, you had notice -- >> -- who will he sue the city of philadelphia. >> the city because they had prior notice that this was a problem and it was a violent atmosphere and they failed to protect. >> who is the villain here in the principal? the school board. >> the principal there because have had so many problems. >> the new principal is trying but obviously not trying enough. you can't really point it to one villain. can you say -- >> -- school district to go after them. >> the school district. the teachers are being abused. and no one is doing anything to protect the teachers. >> yeah, i mean if you can't be expelled by beating up a teacher. >> a beating as we saw. >> severely injuring. they were tweeting about it
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and sending out pictures saying, you know, old head got knocked out. >> this was cool, right? >> right. >> the guy who did it is probably a hero. >> by the way, i have been a substitute teacher before. very difficult and worked in classrooms that have that risk juvenile offenders, the whole deal, it can be a very violent, difficult environment. no one wants to go in and teach these kids, unfortunately, this type of thing can make fun of it on social media. >> three incidents in one month, that's incredible. they will get sued. >> ladies, thanks very much.s> krauthammer on deck. the irs allegations, obamacare deception, and the president in china. all of that, charles is next. in the nation, misfortune doesn't take a holiday.
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of the book segment. let's get to charles krauthammer who joins us9-ñ from washington. you heard the story about the irs allegations. are you, charles krauthammer, confident that congress can get tocgfiz bottom of this, the new congress? >> i'm not confident because i know the administration stonewalls and is very good at stonewalling and the media have no interest in this. however, i do think the house led by darrell issa was not very subtle or skilled in its investigation of the irs scandal. i think the senate will get a second shot at 0tú'ñm you grant lois lerner immunity, then she has to testify, otherwise she's in contempt. >> but she says she doesn't know anything or -- you know how it is. >> if she lies, she's in big trouble. well, i think some of these lies are pretty obvious, if she says,
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i didn't have anything to do with it, there's quite a lot of evidence. she has to be very careful because if she's given immunity sheskj the clear if she tells the truth. >> so are you -- you're kind of confident that thel"8ñ senate i going to come in now, put a little more pressure in conjunction with the house and get this woman to tell what she knows or at least put her in there that she has to say something? >> yeah, i think i would have liked to have seen this the first time around. with the house, that opportunity was blown. so we get a second shot. i don't know whether it would actually happen. >> what about the attorney general not bringing the case to the grand jury as he's required to do under federal statute? >> look, the attorney general will be gone in a few weeks. i think going after him is not a very fruitful line of attack. republicans have to look to 2016, all of this stuff is not going to help them in terps of building the brand and showing they can gofb earn. i'm not against the investigations. it's a good idea. and the irs scandal is a
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scandal. however, you got to look the to the prize. the prize is the white house and governing the country and changing the direction. that's got to be number one in their minds and that's got to take priority over everything else including investigations. >> obama care. now you heard the m.i.t. guy gruber saying, you know what? we conned everybody. they weren't paying attention. they don't really care. and it's not what it was sold as. and you said? >> this is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years, what we're hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance. they believe this. they believe that the voters are stupid, as he said. and they believe that they know the right way, they have to lead the masses to the promised land. and they can only do it by deception. and that's what he said openly. we wanted to get the bill. we didn't care about how we did it. so we lied about everything. we lied about if you can keep the plan.
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knowing that you can't keep your plan. we lied about the fact this would be a transfer of wealth, a massive transfer of wealth because, as gruber said, had they known that, it would never have passed. they lied about every aspect of this. and i think that is what has been charged all along and it is a scandal of the media that this has to be discovered in the sixth year of the presidency rather than talked about at the time when it was obvious they were lying about all this. the idea of it being a transfer of wealth was known from the beginning, but they got away with it. >> but really they didn't get away with it because the new congress is going to gut the bill, and if there's a new president who is a republican -- and i even think if hillary clinton is elected president, they'll have to redo obama care because they're going to tie it around her neck, particularly in a debate situation, around mrs. clinton's neck. are you supporting this? would you change it? tell us how. so i don't thing obama care is going to lq+vrb a long time in
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this country, charles. >> i don't either. i think maybe the fatal blow will come from the supreme court. that's the key thing. in june we will get a ruling on whether the government is allowed to offer subsidies from the federal obama care exchange. >> right. >> without that, it collapses. >> and people know, and people should know that the supreme court justices watch the news, all right?w+z they heard mr. gruber, particularly john roberts, okay, who gruber now makes look like a fool. >> gruber himself said in a different tape and a different occasion that the intent of the law was only to give subsidies to those people -- >> right. >> -- who signed up on state exchanges. the government's case, which is a flimsy one, is that no, we really intended it to be everybody. gruber admits -- one of the guys that put the law together -- that it was intentional. it wasn't a typo, it wasn't a mistake. >> no, and everybody knows that. >> and that i think is devastating. >> okay, finally president obama in china, he's chewing gum, he's
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walking at the same time. he wears a little tunic, a cute little tunic. and you say? >> my mother used to say don't chew gum, and that was just in class. look, the chinese of all people have been extremely sensitive to the rituals, the decorum, the subtleties, the deference of diplomacy. this goes back 3,000 years. this is not new. in china chewing gum is a sign of disrespect. ñstates. the limo.ut of you don't chew gum. it is not, you know, the biggest thing in the world, but it does show the combination of the arrogance and the amateurism of a president who in year six at an important summit in china does this -- shows this kind of disrespect and disregard in a setting where it is completely inappropriate. >> all right, but i don't think he even knew it. i don't think anybody in his
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entourage even knew it. they don't know anything. they just don't know anything. >> when you go to china, somebody can actually look it up. it's not that hard. >> they could. >> but that's the problem. they don't. >> charles krauthammer. factor tip of the day, another attack on jesus and the media's helping it out. the tip moments away. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. jesse? it says here that increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disse.
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interviewing." ah, quiescence. being quiet. what's with president obama chewing gum in china? i believe i'd be an anti-tobacco gum or maybe they have spicy food over there. i don't know. "killing patton" is a great book. do you think patton would have run for president against ike? against truman, maybe, kick, in 1948. patton was set to do a nationwide speaking tour, but on his last day in europe before returning to america, he got blasted by a truck and eventually died from his wounds or so they said. finally tonight the tip of the day. a new book out that says misleading things about jesus of nazareth. the book was done by dubious people who have zero credibility, but nevertheless, the nationaled me xw ed med m m serious. >> a lot of people will be talking about this. it's a new book making shocking claims about the life of jesus christ. according to the lost gospel,
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jesus married marypxgñ magdalend they had two children. >> all right, let me be very, very clear. martin dugard and i researched and wrote a book called "killing jesus." there is absolutely no evidence, none at all, that jesus was married to anyone or had any children. in the past, some have written that jesus had brothers and sisters, but there's no evidence of that either. as we write in "killing jesus," his family lived communally with other families. at the time if you were in that circumstance, everyone in your dwelling was referred to as"$2á brother or &íf.sister, everyone. but that doesn't mean they were biological. this stupid new book is a fraud and simplylí:ñ designed to make money. the mainstream media should be ashamed for participating. tip of the day, there are charlatans everywhere. check out the factor website, different than bill o'reilly.kol. and the word of the day is, do
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not be picayune when writing to the factor. please remember the spin stops here. we're definitely looking after you. breaking tonight, a scandal over what looks like an intentional effort to mislead voters explodes with new video of a key white house adviser underscoring just how stupid he things americans are. welcome to "the kelly file," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. in the last 24 hours a scandal involving a key white house adviser has blown up. and now we are waiting for some sort of on the record explanation from the administration. it started when video surfaced yesterday of m.i.t. economist jonathan gruber, one of the key architects of obama care speaking at a health care forum last year describing on camera the e
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