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the special that premiers in a few hours. here's rob o'neil about he first learned about the mission that would ultimately take out the world's most wanted terrorist. >> they told us a couple of things, we're going to read you and read a few names that didn't make sense. this person and this person, while he be there? it's bin laden. >> we had a chance to do a screening yesterday, i had to insist that no one tall sits in front of me. who comes and sits in front of me? eric bowling. i evening l haven't sat that quiet and unmoving in a long
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time. >> here's the thing that i love about this documentary, it makes you feel proud of everyone. certainly our military of the staff that made it -- and then the families of the victims of 9/11, they make an appearance sort of on the second night and it all comes together, not only is the content amazing, i thought the quality of the production is great. the camera angles are great and different and new. i was wanting to stay up in washington again. >> i love this country and as you mention, the team effort and all the focus and energy and
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dead kraig and courage, on so many agencies, like dana mentioned from the other teammates, eric. >> so this was probably clearly the best account of the osama bin laden killing that i have seen. could be one of the best documentaries i have seen. as dana pointed out, we sat there for two hours, it's amazing, it's riveting. this guy, o'neil, how he got to be a s.e.a.l. was interesting.
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>> everything he said was riveting, fascinating, you have to see, i spent two nights seeing it. there was a line where you get chills and this amount of pride. but there was a lot of work, o'neil says, it made me realize that if we wanted to take our gloves off and hurt people, we could. he says this, because we're the good guys, that was a line where i just said wow, that means -- what they did therethere. >> did he say they were dead? >> it's an incredible piece of the documentary, listening to rob o'neil in his own words, thinking maybe they're not going to make it. >> the more we trained on it,
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the more we realize, this is doing to be a one-way mission. we're going to die when the house blows up, we're going to die when he blows up, or we're going to be there too long when we get arrested by the pakistanis and we're going to spinn spend the rest of our short lives in a pakistani prison. >> i think that's a remarkable testament to this guy and his fellow s.e.a.l.s. but the way the cia analysts, they're doing nothing but reading foreign newspapers, it's much more complicated than that, it takes a very keen intellect to put a piece of puzzle together. to not tell the pakistanis it was a smart move to do, because it was very risky all the way around. that's the point on veterans
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day, greg, is that they went in to serve with a very real likelihood that the outcome would be 245i78d not return. >> i think the lesson here for everybody else is that guys like this should never, ever have to buy another drink again, they should never have to buy anything again, they should have more groupies than chris bieber. you consider the priorities of the modern world, that defending our country is as alien as bril cream and black and white television. if you look at academia, bob, you know the real rebels are -- the activists are the sheep. these are the guys who are the real rebels. the real edgy individuals and who would you rather fight, wouldn't you rather fight terrorists than male privilege on campus? >> yes, and i think the thing that you'll see in this
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documentary tonight. is something in the military, how we talk about how it's the best organized, if you need something done, it's to the most trusted institution on earth to be able to get it done. this isn't the first mission that rob o'neil had been on. one of them was going to liberia, i think it was 2005, i believe, maybe it was a little bit earlier, to evacuate hi's with his they have the video showing the training video of how the ships are packed up, and they dump some of our boats into the ocean, and they follow afterwards.
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a could reaffirm our decision. >> this makes the case, where the importance of a strong military and national security and defense, that will keep us all safe, that is a beacon of holding the virtue of liberty and freedom to be able to make sure that every day should be a veterans day, because one man
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died, we wouldn't be here if so many other hundreds of thousands of americans had sacrificed their lives, the idea of a single veterans day is nice, but it should be every day. >> today's a good day to get the discussion going, to those who have given so much and we have given so little in return. i'm going to talk about jobs. howard schultz about veterans and about jobs and what we can do to make a difference. >> 2 1/2 million young american citizens have served for more than 15 years now in an all volunteer service. with a million veterans who have extraordinary skills and experience to add value to our society and businesses, i am encouraging and really trying to convince or per situated ceos and small business owners across the country to hire a veteran. this is not charity or pity, this is good business. >> great.
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we need more ceos that will do that. he's right, it's not only good for the military, it's good for business. the military people coming back they know how to accomplish goals. that's what they're trained to do solve the problem we talked about the special tonight with osama bin laden, everything changed as they were going in the compound, and they fixed it in a spot, in a second. why don't you want to hire someone who can think like that. it's not just top level navy smt s.e.a.l.s. i trained people when i was working, the to hire are the people who were heavily involved in the military. it's team work.
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>> colleges, many of them are actively seeking and getting -- >> that would be the best thing that could happen to colleges is to have veterans coming to -- these people have structure they don't demand, they deliver. that's what's refreshing, they always rag on young people, we forget, there's a huge population out there that they get up and get a lot of work.
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you go from feeling sort of happy, to a lot of pride, to feeling sad about what happened on 9/11, and then again back up to pride, happy, and all the way on nervous, emotional. and at the ending, you leave it thinking, you definitely would not waste two hours watching this, and it's worth watching again, i don't say that about a
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lot of things, but i would watch it again, for sure. >> you leave thinking we're in good hands. >> absolutely. >> makes you feel good about the military. 6. >> i think we have made the case, you should spend your time tonight and tomorrow night watching this very important special, make you feel good about being an american. >> at most workplaces, if you don't do your job, you won't have your job for very long, right? not at the government, especially in the va.
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a lot of the employees wear. the i stands for integrity. and so those individuals who have violated our value in integrity we're seeking disciplinary action instead. >> how hard is it usually to get rid of government workers? 60 minutes reported on that. >> bob mcdonald continue punish or fire 1,000 people right now. he's discovering how different the capitalism from capitalism. to fire a government manager, he has to put together a case and prove it to an administrative judge. >> we propose the action, the judge rules and the individual has the time to appeal. that's why we have a lot of people on administrative leave. >> the good news is this, by the end of the year, unanimously passed legislation from last spring will hopefully give mcdonald a chance to get rid of
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some of his top tier employees who fail to perform. >> i could. >> it's incredibly hard to fire a government employee because first you have to find out what they do. and it is almost impossible to find out what a government hack does in his office. because they have so much red tape, the only thing government excels at is paper work, they have killed more trees than dutch elm disease. it's like modern art, government bureaucracy is like modern art, it's worthless unless you're in it, then it's absolutely, it's a great live, you don't have to do anything for the rest of your life except create more paper and kill more trees. >> this legislation that could pass by the end of the year, the secretary of veteran's affairs whoever that is going to be
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should have that authority and it should only apply to those at the very top level. if it's going to happen at the va and it's unanimous, couldn't it happen at other agencies? >> assuming they get it passed through. can i talk about bob mcdonald. they took him from proctor and gamble. the guy ran the tide brand and ran that up into a huge p & g product. he saw them going from over the counter stuff and made that transition like it was nothing. you've got to commend them for picking the right guy, hopefully he didn't get pushed back from all the bureaucrats. if you let this guy go, you probably could fix va pretty
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quickly. >> if he's a veteran himself, and so he comes back to it, maybe this will help other people realize the problem solving nature. >> when you see the emotions he speaks about the veterans, he deeply wants to fix this seemingly intractable problem. this is not an easy job. i'm very pleased with his selection, i know he's a man that's going stay the course and make sure it gets done. hopefully with the new legislation that's gone through, he's able to make some changes, there's a whole host of problems, not being able to hire enough people, not getting rid of the top tier levels. to the discovery that there were defective medical devices being used on our military veterans. i mean when you think about this, it really is shameful. i'm glad we were able to shine some light on it. because the veteran who is give so much and ask for so little in
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return. they deserve much better than this. >> i'll have you listen to one more sound bite on what he thinks needs to be improved and a comment on that. >> we're in the reserve business, we serve 9 million veterans in our health care system, we need to reorganize the department, improve the system, building and leasing new clinics, hiring the doctors and nurses, using it technology to better connect with veterans. >> bob, over the years, you have seen many attempts to try to reform the va and improve it, but do you think this time it feels different? >> i think he's right. keep in mind, there are 1,000 executives on administrative leave from the agency. the administration, rather, and there are 315,000 employees at the va. so most of them, the vast majority of them do their job. they're short -- what i find most striking, they're short
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28,000 doctors and nurses. so i guess -- by the way, it's not new, there are agencies inside the department that have allowed the chief administrator to get rid of them. the problem with administrative leave, though, is they're getting paid. and that can take up to a year. >> also, some of them have recognized, seen the writing on the wall and they retire before the announcement so they can get their full pension. that's a problem. >> he pointed out right there, a customer service system, again calling from his private sector life. it's called my va, he's using everything that worked in the private sector to the public sector. >> and we love it and we hope it works. >> we really have to think about the priorities in this country and reassess what we consider to be important. right now there's a possibility
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that chelsea manning will get her sex change in prison before many of our veterans will get the treatment they need. >> and so many world war ii veterans that are dying, we need to make sure they get what they need. >> americans were lied to in order to get the law passed. and wait until you hear what he called you, the voters, next.
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a new lly found video found from last year. >> lack of transparency is a huge political advantage, and calls to the stupidity of the american voter or whatever. >> so he admits that one must deceive america and camouflage the bill's true intent to pass this law. they painted a grenade and threw an easter egg. >> those comments were made at an academic conference and i smoke off t spoke off the cuff and i should haven't made those comments. >> you were saying, essentially, correct me if i'm wrong, that due to political pressure, the language of obama care had to be
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somewhat opaque, somewhat lacking in transparency. >> see, everybody, it's nuance. the fact is no liberal law would ever be passed if their consequences were known. amnesty, housing subsidies, welfare, they think we're too stupid to handle the truth, but -- how do you trust people whose only major accomplishment rested on tricking you. and what of the media who didn't mind because they wanted to trick you too. obama care was their ultimate lemon, the goal was not satisfying the customer, but keeping the piece of crap off the lot before the buyer realizes he just bought a death trap. a wrongly designed mess ending in misery, like the car makers knew of the flaws before production and hoped would be too dumb to notice. the shills in the media, they didn't care, after all what's a new casualties when you're earned your commission.
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so k.g., he says he's sorry. now we have got it on the record and they have to deal with it. hopefully, this is going to wake people up going forward and into the next election booth. >> the fact of the media knew anyway he didn't care. they believe the ends justify the means. >> but you're assuming that everybody thinks that obama care doesn't work, and it does, it's working very well. in fact premiums have gone down the last few years. you know who likes it a lot? it is getting better and better and better. here's the other thing about it, keeping this in mind, i don't care how many republicans you elect, you'll never get rid of
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it. you can fix it, it can be fixed, but you'll never get rid of it. >> i will bring that in tomorrow, i'll bring that in with you tomorrow. >> pointing something out, jonathan gruber, mit professor, he was one of the architects of obama care, it's not like he said this once, he's been out there for literally three years saying that obama care what we have right now wasn't what they were trying to do from the very beginning, it was nothing like it, and i probably shouldn't have been passed in it's form riling now, it's not like he made a comment and they're trying to pull him back can i nuance a little bit? i think gruber was apologizing -- however i think he was still saying to this day, it was not what they had planned when they started putting obama care together. >> has anybody seen disasters lately out of obama care?
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>> 6.1 billion fewer people signed up. >> but the people who have signed up seem to like it very much. >> and the people who have lost health care -- >> 107,000. >> what about when we find out how much the law is really going to cost. that's not going to happen for another year or two. >> my -- >> there was a food chain last week who said they were going to lay off somewhere around 2,000 people, because the cost of obama care was kicking in this year. >> the number is all right inflated, it's not even accurate, it's so ridiculous. because you had to uninsure is ensured to get them to buy back in to pay more to insure the people who didn't have insurance. >> i'll bring you a gallup poll tomorrow that will show you that the people who resigned up are happier than they were before. you want it to fail because it
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has obama's name on it. >> i want to talk about gruber, because these are democratic elites, remember president obama's fund-raiser was clinging to their gods and guns, it's just more of a theme. the problem is for them, if they actually think that gruber's comments which are basically making like a wildfire across the country, if it helps them, if they think it helps to go on msnbc -- who are they trying to convince? not me. >> they're trying to convince themselves, they're trying to do internal damage to that problem, if he was really brave and so smart, he should come on this network and do an interview. let's see him be brave enough to do that. >> i never trusted gruber. he's a die hard.
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democrats love to attack rush limbaugh, but this time he says they have gone too far. al rush bo is -- apologize for the yooutz comment that he made on his radio show in september. >> consent must be frequently given and can be wraucithdrawn time and the absence of no does not mean yes. how many of you guys in your own experience with women have learned that no means yes if you know how to spot it? i'm probably -- let me tell you something, in this modern, that is simply, that's not tolerated. people aren't even going to try to understand that one. >> did you hear the second part of that one? did you hear anything that advocated for harming women? no, neither did i.
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but in a fundraising e-mail, quote, rush limbaugh is advocating for the power of sexual assault. his lawyer fired back last night on hannity. >> rush's comments were deliberately taken out of context for apparently political reasons by people who should know better. this was not an irresponsible blogger? this was a democratic congressional campaign committee made up of people that we have elected to congress. shame on them. >> what about on legal grounds? >> well, what he's claiming is that he has been defamed, that there's been harm to his reputation by a statement being made that he did not make, so what he's saying is they took this out of context, they clipped it, they took the first portion and then the whole conversation is not in its entirety. if you feel you have been taken out of context, and you have a claim on that, then you should
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go against him to go on the record. the bigger picture is the fact that this is a government organization that we pay the taxpayer dollars towards this, so shouldn't there be some accountability, some accuracy, instead they're going on a smear am pain. >> let's talk about taking rush limbaugh's comments and using it as a campaign slogan. >> one correction, it's not taxpayer money, it's paid for by campaign crontributions. >> but it's paid by taxpayers. >> the point is, if rush wants to take a lawsuit about taking these out of context, he is going to be absolutely bludgeoned on that and by the way, take the republicans for example, you didn't build it. remember you used that one over and over again about obama said -- you didn't build your
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business? no context of what he said, but you didn't build your business. it happens all the time in politics. they take things out of context and say what's new here, i have no sympathy for rush, rush takes a lot of things out of context. >> the people who run the cdcc say they're not completely not at all the in this. can you edit someone's comments like that and then using it -- the most egregious part for me is using it to fundraise. >> rush limbaugh is the democrats favorite billing, if he goes down this road, and he is effective and is able to get what he wants out of the lawsuit, then we will have very different politics. like what happened to cory gardner in colorado, the saying that he wanted to ban
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contraceptive, which he had never said, but cory gardner is not going to sue anyone, but he won so it doesn't really matter. >> let's not just say this is a democratic issue here. >> example? >> example, i'll bring some examples tomorrow, but there's so many of them that it would be impossible for me to begin to start. >> any problem with this? >> no, you know what? we're saying that it's bad that they used it to fundraise, but we use it to fundraise, it's called making money. we take things out of context all the time, cable shows do it all the time to make money. we would be a hypocrite if we said he had a leg to stand on. rush does not have a leg to stand on on this, i like him, he's famous, he says stuff like this a lot. sometimes he's being facetious, sometimes he's being serious. he has a -- sometimes i'm listening to rush and i'm going, this is a really interesting story about consumer fraud, and
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then i realize that it's a commercial. because i didn't know that he actually changed and was doing a commercial. this is what he does. can you prove the statement was false? maybe u you can, may you can't, but that's part of the job. >> but the part about pulling rush off the air is problematic. at least people have always said u if you call people out that you don't like, petitions, boycotts. >> but you have every right to say, when somebody says something that's bad, you can say it. but i have always been against this idea of trying to limit people's speech through petitioning. i think that's wrong. >> they're not going to get him off the air. that was silly. but russia was goo rush is good has had to do this very, very well. >> the president
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came out in bookstores. they both spoke about how hard it was to watch each other come under attack during their pregnancy. >> when i was president, i was displined enough to ignore all the noise, but when he was president and they criticized him it got -- criticism of him was a lot more difficult for me to handle than criticism of me. >> how did you handle it? >> same thing, i did not like it. by then i knew it goes with the territory, but your own son, it's hard to take. >> no question, they're both number one in each other's books. >> the kind of question people ask all the time is who is the most influential president. and it's no contest. george h.w. bush. >> would you say the same thing about him? >> unconditionally. >> let me go to our resident
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hearing about the president. no one talks about marvin bush, the youngest brother, everyone's talking about george and jeb, the governor, but marvin is a great guy. his wife's name is margaret, he's a great guy. marvin, thank youing about you. >> it's really nice of you to do that. >> how's that for marvin, marvin is never talked about. you never heard about marvin.
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bring back marvin. >> let me is -- what do you take away from all of this? >> i think it's very heart warming. i love family, i think this is an incredible family, we have been so lucky to have him in this country, they have served and at 41, torpedo bomber, you know what the life expectancy is for a torpedo bomber. i'm sure glad that that family exists, i'll tell you that much. >> as partisan as you possibly can imagine, always will be. i have always had a warm spot in my heart for h.w. bush, and i'm warming a little bit to w. >> what about marvin? >> marvin, one more thing is up next, buddy.
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time now for one more thing. bob? >> we put this picture up on our facebook page. if you'll notice, there's my soprano suspenders. we have had 4,000 people who have commented on it. if you would like to comment on it. >> dana? >> you know, everybody knows i love wheel of fortune. pat sajak got a little bit frustrated because his contest tachblts were not up to speed, they kept guessing wrong. this was his frustration, watch. >> riding a brown horse. >> islt's amazing and it's wron >> three seconds. >> riding a whitehorse?
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>> who said anything about a horse? >> the answer was seeing a budding movie, which certainly has nothing to do with a horse. >> did you know that answer? >> i was doing that jake podcast. i saw it that's why i wanted to do it for one more thing. >> that was good, eric. >> so watch this one flow last night. and i'm going to explain it after why it's really important, watch. >> nothing but the bump of the bucket. austin has scored for the michigan wolverines. >> i have chills up and down my
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body. it was really an emotion moment. >> he was in a plane crash that killed his mother, brother and sister and in 2011, he was in another plane crash that killed his father. his dream was always to be a basketball player. >> my gosh, a terrible loss that he has suffered as a young boy. there's an incredible clint eastwood movie about an amazing veteran called chris sniper. take a look. >> she's got grenades, and had some kids. >> a woman and a kid? >> you got eyes on this? can you confirm? >> negative, your call. >> watch it.
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time well spent, greg? >> time for -- greg's secret to happiness. the secret to a happy relationship is always surprising your partner when he or she gets home from work in a delightful outfit like this little chap did. look at that, huh? i don't know how bad your work might be that day, but if you're greeted at your door and your significant other is in a teddy like that, look at that teddy, how could you not be happy? this is the secret to happiness. if you think your partner is unhappy, put on a teddy. >> mine doesn't look like that. that's it f >> it is wednesday november 12th. the fox news exclusive. the man that killed osama bin laden talking for the first time about sending letters home as he prepares to die.
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>> i talked about their weddings, wishing them happiness, take care of their mom, there are some apologies sorry i am not being to be around. >> toss up no more. a senate race called overnight. we are live in washington with the breaking results. >> take down the marine corps flag or face evictions? >> we want to fly it on the porch because we are proud of it we should be allowed to. the daughter of a marine this flag has to go. is it a fair fight? we report, you decide. fox and friends first starts right now.
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♪ >> good morning to you from the streets of new york city. it is 5:00 a.m. on this wednesday morning. >> i am heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. it is an exclusive interview you will only see on the fox news channel the man who killed osama bin laden speaking out for the first time in a two night special. >> he didn't think he would return home from his mission. he described letters he left behind for family and friends. >> i wrote one to pretty much everybody. it was more of an explanation of why we went why it was noble and why i am not afraid the best people in the world were going on the most important mission since washington pros crossed the delaware and it is worth it. i am sorry you are upset i died with the
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