>> right here. >> that's all. >> you know what's great about this couch? there are more folks on this couch than there are actual news worthy stories today. martha: president obama promising to go ahead with an executive action on immigration and republicans are promising war on that. >> we are going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. this is the wrong way to govern. >> surely the president understands the kind of explosion that would occur up here if he takes that unilateral action. surely he has better sense than to do that. >> if this president goes unilaterally i believe he will make the subject of immigration toxic for decades.

martha: i'm martha maccallum. >> i'm leland vittert. >> i indicated to speaker boehner several months ago if in fact congress held back i would use all the lawful authority i possess to try to make the system work better and that's going to hap the end of the year. martha: the battle lines are drawn. tucker carlson is the host of "fox and friends weekend." what do you think? >> the lesson the president took from the mid-term election is all that matters is power. he has no interest in working with republicans in governing in a traditional sense. the truth is as unpopular he is

in the polls he's still very powerful. there is not much the republicans can do. they can impeach him, defund him and sue him. the first two they don't have any stomach for and they don't want to defund the government because republicans always lose politically. it's not clear that that will have an effect. they actually don't have that's options. martha: how big do you think that fight on the gop side will be? mitch mcconnell and john boehner are look at this as something they can go after piece by piece. others are saying defund it. we are going to go to the wall. >> it's right. the congress does have constitutionally the role of funding the government. they could defund it in order to

stop this. but there is not the will i don't believe in leadership to do that. there is a fourth option. they could explain why this is bad for the country and do so in a systematic clear way. the democratic party is no longer the party of working people. if it were they wouldn't do this. allowing more low-wage workers into the united states it will displace american workers. the president admitted in his book that's the case. but they are not the party of the poor, they are the party of the rich and powerful. it depresses wages. martha: that comes to articulating your side of the story. when you go into this proposal there are plenty of things in the president's proposal i think

a lot of republicans could get on the side of. like high-tech visas and deporting criminals first. he could have waited until after january and fond some good common ground, no? >> reporter: of course. the majority of big donors to the republican party, they want engineers and coders to come to this country and help our economy. the president wants volume. he wants voters. the more low-skilled immigration you will have the more voters you will have. not all immigration is the same. some helps, some hurts. but it's not all the same. they need to make that case to the public.

>> bill o'reilly with tough words for the presidencying he's basic dshes for the president, saying he's declaring war on the republican party. bill: surely he could have waited a few months and lobbied for what he saw as a just immigration compromise. if the new congress didn't couple with a workable immigration plan then the president could justify his executive order at least as a last resort. >> we'll have senator barrasso of which and what this means for the gop. martha: there are a number of things on the president's proposal republicans could have gotten on board with. the president may be seething as o'reilly says and may want to lash out to a certain extent.

>> reporter: my grandmother used to say it's not exactly what you do but how you do it moorer. martha: -- but how you do it. martha: your grandmother was right. >> jonathon gruber, the obamacare architect calling the american voters stupid. >> you have a person who wasn't writing our bill commenting on what was going on when we were writing the bill who had withdrawn some of the statement that he made. so let's put him aside. >> reporter: now we go back to the video library. she seemed to know him pretty

well in 2009 when she touted the bill. >> i don't if you have seen jonathon gruber's comparison to the bill for those who seek understand through the exchange and our bill takes down those costs. >> reporter: is this a foot in the mouth for leader pelosi? >> reporter: it's a foot in the mouth moment and more and a major embarrassment for pelosi. with the gruber tapes and miss pelosi's statement, we know the people who wrote the bill and steered the bill that they would have to lie and scheme to get it passed. tomorrow that is the start of the new enrollment period. when you sign up, when you enroll and get on that website you will find the cost of the

bronze plan is up 7%, silver 9%, catastrophic healthcare up 18%. if you don't have insurance, the penalty, the fine is tripled to $325 per person. if you get your health insurance from your employer you have seen the premiums are up and deductibles are through the roof. so the lies and deceptions, that's the backdrop for the enrollment period part two that begins tomorrow. >> reporter: we had our sticker shock moment. the republicans are taken over the house and the senate. is this more ammo for repeal of obamacare? >> reporter: if the architects deceived to get this bill through, that could essentially invalidate parts of the law. that's a legal question which will be heard by the supreme court next year.

that's the legal aspect. but the republican congress that takes over in january gives them an enormous amount of am mission to attack mandate, taxes, because they were based on lies and deception. this opens up obamacare to more significant challenges just immediately in the future. leland. >> reporter: the videos are searing to watch. don't miss stu. go to foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. martha: a new report on the fence jumper who made it into the white house. officials say it was a comedy of errors that allows him to jump the fence and make it into the east room' while carrying a knife in his hand. one secret service agent was on

his cell phone and another assuming the bushes surrounding the white house would be enough to keep the intruder from getting inside. >> republican and democratic members of congress want to know how this can be fixed. house judiciary committee chairman goodlatt said everything that could have gone wrong that evening did, inadequate training, poor communication and lax security at the white house led to this breach. the secret service agents could not hear well on their radios. the front doors were not locked and the bushes that were thought to be impassible were not.

and when the man jumped the fence thing canine officer was on his cell phone and he had his ear phone in his pocket for his radio. martha: we'll see what happens in terms of the repercussions. it should be pretty clear. molly, thank you very much. a terror team that has everyone worried. isis combining al qaeda to stand united against their greatest enemy, the united states of america. very disturbing development here. we'll talk to an air force veteran and congressman. >> reporter: a mississippi landmark goes up in flames. one employee says he was always afraid this would happen.

martha: i sat down with "the man who killed usama bin laden." he said he was going into a anything he thought he would never make it home from. >> to go up there knowing based on what we have been told he was going to be in this room. it wasn't end this story. it's he's going to blow up so let's get it over with. we know the end is coming for 9/11. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.

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martha: a massive fire last night sweeping through the state's agriculture and forestry division. three buildings were destroyed including a veterinary clinic. all the animals made it out safely. an employee at the building said they were afraid this could happen because the buildings westerly made of wood. leland: isis is setting aside its fight with al qaeda for one:reason. >> complex terrain for them, mouse and eventually as they need to restore the border

between iraq and syria. i'm not predicting i would recommend that those forces in mouse and along the border would need to be accompanied by u.s. forces but we are certainly considering it. leland: adam kinsmer is joining us. we learned the link-up between al qaeda and the al-nusra front. there are two cornerstones of the obama policy, no troops on the ground and they would arm the rebels in syria and they would take care of business on the ground. >> i met with leaders of these rebel groups. now they are facing both isis and the assad regime. obama's reaction to saying we are going to arm and train them

has been extremely slow. i guarantee you with this relink-up, al qaeda didn't say just bring your temper down and temperature down we are going to continue -- isis is going to say we'll be as violent as we are. now you have the al qaeda affiliates say we'll adopt the approach you have. when you see isis being successful. you see a group that has taken ground forces off the table in any form really. up join the group that appears to having a lot of success. leland: isis had a lot of success against the iraqi army. we heard chairman dempsey say he's not recommending it but he's considering it. the chairman trying to push

president obama publicly towards break that no boots on the ground pledge? >> the chairman is a great guy, he understands what's need to defeat an enemy, you don't get to that range if you don't. but he's a loyal soldier and he works for the commander in chief. for him to skirt the line and say it may take boots on the ground. the president has said my red line is boots on the ground. we want to destroy isis until it takes american boots in which case that becomes worse. he will have to back out of thin people are sitting around saying what's the president doing? what's his strategy. this is the big issue, the loss of confidence right now. leland: we have seen the government-backed rebels who are effective on the battlefield.

you flew missions over iraq and afghanistan, reporting down to folks. what is the value of good intelligence of folks like yourself risking your lives to fly these missions if there are not good troops on ought ground. >> that's the big point. when we were gathering target locations data we were communicating with folks on the ground who could do what they had to do. airstrikes are good and airstrikes are effective if you have good intelligence. the problem is in a city like mosul, which by the way americans spent a lot of blood to get and to free. you don't have assets on the ground that can lase the target and they are not just a bunch of bad guys with things that look leak guns, you have more difficulty. leland: we'll see if considering turns into recommending.

martha? martha: a knife-wielding man tries to storm the front gate at a naval base with another attempt at lone wolf attack. leland: another video from the obamacare architect jonathon gruber. why he says he scammed the american people. >> it many emblematic of a nanny state government. you are too stoop i'd to know how to educate your own children or what to put in your mouth and eat.

leland: a man with a knife tried to storm the gate at a naval base in connecticut.

two civilian police officers were wound. one sliced in the leg by a suspect and another by a ricochet of bullets after they returned fire. no explanation of who was. officials say this was not an act of terror. the navy, state and local police investigate. martha: some new cutting-edge technology to try to protect schools from mass shooters. jonathon hunt has more on this from our newsroom. sounds like very interesting technology. >> reporter: think it as a smoke or fire alarm system. wait does is put sensors throughout the school. those sensors pick up the sound or indeed the muzzle flash of gunfire to help guide cops by sending them instant signals as to where the short is in that school or any other kind of

building. the police chief where this training drill took place thinks this could make a real difference. listen. >> it changes the whole game mere. without that shot protection system no one would know what was going none the school. police response would be delayed by several minutes. >> reporter: those minutes as we have seen so often before could make a difference in terms of lives saved. martha: so i guess another big question for school systems is how much it costs. >> reporter: in a large school where this was tested, it could cost as much as $100,000. in a smaller building, smaller school as low as $20,000. but the school district superintendent in massachusetts believes that if this can prey vent any deaths it's worth every penny. listen here.

>> once someone -- it's hard to swallow, so absolutely. the taxpayers need to think about something like this. >> reporter: if you think of a shooting like we saw in washington state, this might not make a huge difference. that shooting took place in one room the cafeteria. it was over within a matter of minutes. but if you think of a shooting like a newtown, connecticut where a short is prowling the halls, this could save children's lives. martha: it could be money well spent fourth excuse systems if it works. leland: a new patient with ebola, now he's heading to the united states. we'll tell you where this american doctor is heading after working to save lives in west africa. martha: sean hannity sits down with a father and son who both

happen to be former presidents of the united states. they talk about family the moments -- >> he leans over and rubs jenna's pregnant study and says there is death and the beauty of life. i gave him a kiss and i was convinced it would be the last time i would see him. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine for 9 straight years. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.

leland: an american surgeon who contracted ebola while treating patients in west africa is make his way back to the u.s. for care. >> reporter: they haven't yet made that decision to bring him back or not. he is medevaced back he will be

theth to treated. these are pictures of him in the hospital in the o.r. provide to us by the united methodist church. he came down with ebola three days ago. it's fairly well along. the team from phoenix air which brings back everybody from west africa. the phoenix medical team will examine him to see if he's well enough to travel. if he is he will be brought to the nebraska bio containment unit. he will be the third patient to be treated in nebraska. rick a contract is back with his families. he will be the first non-citizen

to be treated in the u.s. leland: you think of the medical professionals who can stay in the united states and risk their lives to help people suffering from ebola. this isn't the first person in sierra leone to be infected. >> reporter: five others have including that country's foremost expert on the ebola virus, all of them have died from the disease. you can beth everybody from the phoenix air teams and the folks in the nebraska medical center want to make sure he can do everything to -- they can do everything to make sure he gets back to his patients. he does not treat ebola patients so it's a mystery how he contracted the virus. leland: you feel for his family

as they watch and worry and wait to see if he will be able to come back and make a recovery. martha: there is yet another video that has emerged of obamacare architect jonathon gruber talking about the state the healthcare law is in massachusetts which was cite as a model for obamacare. listen how he talks how ted kennedy was able to scam the federal government out of a lot of money to pay for the state's law. the dirty secret in massachusetts is the feds paid for our bill. we had a powerful senator named ted kennedy. he basically figured out to way to relationship off the feds of $400 million a year. martha: congressman aaron schock

sits on the ways and means committee. there is such an arrogant attitude in these video. if you are really smart you can manipulate the people. he says he did it successfully in massachusetts and he's proud of it. >> it's the emblematic of the remember ralls in washington. they think they are the ruling class, and it's up to them, and the federal government because the american people are too stupid, they have to tell them what kind of healthcare to buy, what kind of food to eat, what kind of schools for their children. it's emblematic of the nanny state. i think it's what the american people pushed back from in house and senate and why people are so taken aback by the liberalism of the obama administration. martha: the bigger part of all of this is not that he seems smug as he's talking about how the wool is pulled over the eyes

in people'size. but the fact that the wool is pulled over people's eyes. does he have to go before congress, does he have to explain why it was okay to misrepresent this bill? >> the shame should be put on the atlantic layer toes. this was legislative malpractice on the part of democrats who ran the house and senate at the time. they are the ones who refused to read the bill or have a hearing to find out what was in the bill, they were the ones who refused to let the american people find out what was in it before they passed it. so they are the ones who are at fault. this idiot took $500 million from the people po who was willing to pay him. i don't know how many videos we need to show he's full of

nonsense. but somebody in the obama administration those was so brilliant they should hire him to help draft this law. martha: you are saying democratic law makers should be held responsible for misrepresenting this bill to the american people. so i'm asking what will you do to that end? republicans are in power in both houses. is this part of a reform-repeal move -- that you think is actual evidence that will help if you that goal? >> absolutely. believe it or not when i was in congress in my freshman year i was 434 out of 435 in seniority when the congress voted on obamacare. today i'm 230 out of 435. that means half of the congressmen have lost in the

house and senate. there will and repeal bill in the house and senate and members will have an didn't to vote on that. there is speculation on whether the senate will get to 0 votes. and whether the president will veto. if he does not sign a repeal fan it doesn't happen we'll put forward bills that passed the house overwhelmingly saying let people buy healthcare that fits the families' needs and business needs and not what the hhs secretary says you have to buy. i'm confident if mitch mcconnell puts it on the floor of the senate you will have overwhelming support. let the president veto a law that says americans should be able to buy the healthcare they want, not the healthcare the government says they have to buy. martha: congressman schock, thank you very much. leland: who among us does not

have our cell phone near by? the government might be using it to track you. a new report says the government is using secret flights to do it. martha: "the man who killed usama bin laden," former navy seal robert o'neill sits down to explain why he decided to come forward. >> when a woman says you closed a chapter on my entire life. this is so much bigger than me.

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the top most. they are $5.5 billion in the red this year alone. that's not even considering the cost of stamps has gone up. the number of days for deliveries and post offices being open has gone down. martha: the former navy seal who shot and killed usama bin laden is telling us yes came forward. the reason was meeting face to face the families of the victims who were killed september 11. >> that's the reason that we went, accepting death the way we did. because it wasn't for ourselves to get the big mission and have bragging rights. the reason that we left on the mission knowing we are probably going to die and more than

likely not come home was for the single mom that went to work on tuesday morning and later that morning she made a conscious chief significance to jump to her death because it's better than burning alive. martha: joining me is robert o'neill. it's great to meet you. i was amazed when you made the documentary. when you walked into that room at the 9/11 museum. you didn't intend to tell those people you were the one who fired that shot that day. take me through that moment of decision in that room. >> my intention was to semi anonymous lido nate something that was in the house. i knew a shirt with an american flag would be personal and i wanted the inscriptions to say this shirt was worn by a navy seal who was present when usama bin laden was killed. then i walked into a room just to meet with some colleagues and

a few families and there was 20-25 families. i didn't intend on speaking. i found myself in front of them on sort after stage and i started talking and looking out into the crowd. some women put their heads thank their hands. there were tears on every face in there. the jat who lost his son. he said his granddaughter always asked him why did god do this. he said god didn't do this, the devil did this, and you killed the devil. to hear that -- i had gotten to a spot because of so many great people, the analysts and the helicopter pilots who flew us in, just to realize i was part of that great team that brought closure. when a woman told me you closed a chapter and the entire book on the worst time of my life. i'm not afraid any more. this is so much bigger than me.

it's so historical. if i can help these 25 people, i can help the thousands and thousands affected by the tragedy on 9/11. martha: you knew you were opening up a box for your own life as well that would change thing dramatically. you thought maybe some day you would share that story but in that moment what made you say i want to do it. >> i did open a box and i knew it, it's just not a historical tact. historical -- fact. walking through the 9/11 museum it takes you back to 9/11. themes people who lost someone live 9/11 every single day. martha: let's go back to the third floor of that building. when i watched the documentary, i wondered just as a human being as you are walking up those stairs, is it going fast, are

you in slow motion? when you are in that moment again, what did it feel like? >> it's going faster than you realize because it's in slow motion. being one of the last two people to go -- our team, because everyone else has taken different roles doing our job. going up there knowing based on what we were told that he would be in that room, it wasn't the end of the story, it's more he's going to blow up so let many get it over with. we know the ends is coming for 9/11. martha: were you surprised he is defenseless. that he didn't blow up? >> there was defense and shots fired on both ends. i was surprised there weren't more. going in we said it was a one-way mission. if anyone would have booby traps and something that can martyr his entire family it would be this guy. so that did surprise me. martha: really incredible.

all of his stories. robert o'neill will talk about how president george w. bush's words moments after the planes hit the towers on 9/11 stayed with him and affected him on the day of that raid. what this disclosure means for his family. we talked about the controversy over him telling his story, and i think parts of it is he felt like so much of the story had already come out. the white house put out a lot more information than the pentagon wanted out in the early days. i think he felt it was coming out. that more and more people knew and he might as well embrace it in that moment, and he did provide a lot of comfort to those families in that. leland: it's incredible to know and hear and see some of the things he's talking about. about. what's he like as a guy just to

sit there. martha: just a normal guy. he's relaxed and smiles all the time. he's not a larger than life superhero. he's the first to say he was trained and trained and trained. they are so well trained that their muscle memory kicks in and it's almost bigger than them because they are putting into work the force of the u.s. military and everything that has gone into that. i gave him a couple of notes from two friends of mine who lost people on 9/11 and i know from their experience that seeing him and hearing him talk has been really big for them. and i'm not a family who lost someone so i can't explain that but i know it's true. leland: president george w. bush is opening up to sean hannity, talking about his dad and his relationship with president obama. and also why he will never speak about his successor. >> i don't think it's good for

country to have a former president undermine a former president. i think it's bad for the presidency for that matter. secondly i have had all the fame secondly i have had all the fame i want.

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leland: president george w. bush sitting down for an exclusive interview with our own sean hannity last night. much of it focused on his relationship with his father george hw bush. here is the president 43 talking about what he thought would be his final moments with his dad who was battling pneumonia. >> i said i don't want the last image of us weeping around him. his last image. we get over there and it's in an

icu unit. barbara and jenna are rubbing his head and cooing and he leaned over and rubs jenna's pregnant stomach and said there is the beauty of life. i gave him a kiss and thought it would, the last time i would see him and i underestimated him. leland: president bush also spoke about his brother jeb bush and whether he will run for president in 2016. >> i don't know if he's going to run. i hope he does because he would be a great president. he's weighing it out. he's going to take a deliberate decision. the idea of being a second, one of two brothers being brothers is not going to weigh in his decision.

what's important to him, he's going to make sure this is okay with his family. martha: they talk in the book "41" about faith, family, country and hard work, the bush family motto. there is an interesting and great example for men who are very expressive about their feeling and love for each other. leland: you watch during that interview go around together, pushing president bush in the wheelchair and the hug. of -- and the hug -- and the hue younger has for his father. we'll see if there is a brother in there. that would be the first of its kind. martha: a showdown on the keystone pipeline. if you heard about the update on

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martha: we are back and the lame duck session of congress is turning into quite a battleground. it's looking like something might be hitting the fan over the course of the next couple weeks before the republicans take control of the senate. welcome, everybody, i'm martha

maccallum and this is "america's newsroom." leland: i'm leland vittert in for bill hemmer. president obama's threat of executive action to shield millions of illegal immigrants from deportation is sparking a dire warning. john boehner is saying he will fight the president tooth and nail and all options are on the table if he continues down that path. >> if he wants to go off on his own, there are things he's just not going to get. martha: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. if the president goes forward with this executive action ... >> reporter: the house appropriations chairman is warning it will be like a bomb going off on capitol hill.

a border state republican senator blasted the plan. >> we are a nation of legal immigrants. how unfair could it be for the president to issuer this order and bump those folks who have been waiting patiently and trying to play by the rules and do it the right way. >> reporter: he said language should be included to take away money from the president to keep him from carrying out his executive order. >> at a time when the president said let's work together. i think it would be a bad way to start a new session of congress and continue the lame duck session. >> reporter: uncertainties about timing, whether they do it next week pore wait until after congress passes a government

funding extension which is due to run out in mid-december. martha: talk about the keystone pipeline. it sat on harry reid's desk for years. now it appears the senate mayen ready to move forward with it. >> the senate will likely vote next week. a lot of this has to do with the louisiana senate race. marchy landrieu trying get it through. she is running against republican congressman bill cassidy. a top republican with this sudden interest in keystone. >> if the democrats had been half as concerned about creating jobs for the american people as they are about saving the job of one politician in louisiana, this would have been done years ago. >> reporter: expect the house to vote around midday today.

leland: there is a brand-new report surfacing on a secret you ar --a secret surveillance plan targeting cell phones. the government is allegedly using airplanes to snatch the data out of your phones. unbelievable story. >> reporter: this technology was developed in the 90s by the intelligence community for oversaves to gather foreign communications. the "wall street journal" is reporting and fox's contacts are not denying the service using a cleanup aircraft to pick up phone data on criminals, but in the pro versus picking up phone data information on american citizens. in this case the tower is controlled by a government

agency. and has the ability to collect all of the data going through this third party. >> this was actually developed during the 90s for military intelligence purposes. what's significant is that this is military-grade technology being adapted for use against criminal elements within the united states. >> reporter: the aclu told the "wall street journal" that the program is another example of drag met technology now being turned domestic. leland: we heard your sources aren't denying it. what's the official response from the justice department? >> there was no on the record statement for reporters. but a justice department official said the following to fox news. discussion of sensitive law enforcement equipment and techniques would allow criminal defendants, criminal end prior

foreign powers to determine our capabilities and limitations in this area. deploying any such equipment or tactic, our agencies comply with federal law, including seeking court approval. the program in the view of the department of justice meets the required legal standard. leland: thanks, catherine. martha: accused police killer eric frein is being charged with two counts of terrorism after police say he carried out the attack to in his words wake people up and change the government. he's accused of ambushing two state troopers in september. he killed one of them and injured the other. he was finally captured october 30 after a 7-week man hunt. the military losing track of hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment in afghanistan.

more than 15,000 pieces of equipment disappeared in 2013, including weapons, weapon systems and sensitive items. the tab, about $420 million. the military is leaving behind tons of equipment on purpose as more of our troops pull out of the country. >> there is a new and dangerous threat emerging in syria. isis and the al qaeda affiliate known as the al-nusra front are joining forces. the two groups have been at war with each other for a year. now they agreed to stop fighting each other and attack u.s.-backed rebels in syria. the u.s.-backed rebels has not been all that great on the battlefield to begin with. now rather than facing al qaeda individually, the al-nusra front separately, they face them

together. what does it mean on the ground? >> it means a decided shift. we'll see that play out on the battlefield. it's a decided shift towards the vicious barbarian forces which are al-nusra and isis. we need to look back on their history. they were once one. they were cleaved from what was al qaeda in iraq and split into two separate groups after the iraqis or the died folks said, no, isis is too violent for us. that's how bad isis is. with al-nusra deciding they are not going to fight each other they are free to combine forces or go their separate ways against the syrian regime or against the so-called moderate syrians. leland: the moderate syrians haven't been doing so well on the battlefield, but president

assad's troops have been doing better. if you have isis and al-nusra combined in this stronger fighting force, a very successful one at that. what does that mean for president assad if all of a sudden assad gets knocked back, doesn't that mean an isis-al qaeda front state takes over syria? >> it could. but they have to deal with the kurds. and it may take some pressure hoff assad. the reason why i say that, if they turn all of their efforts into iraq, and connecticut consolidate al -- -- andconsoli. that will make things more difficult for the iraqis and the coalition and you will see the iranians get in and play with a heavy hand. none of this is good but there

may be a silver lining in that cloud for him. leland: we heard chairman martin dempsey say they are considering ground forces to help fight isis and this al-nusra front, this new combined group. martha: we want to show you this news conference that's about to get underway. these are the window washers who were dangling halfway up the freedom tower, holding on for dear life. one of them called his wife saying i don't think we are going to make it. take care of our children. it was a harrowing time for them. they were rescued by firefighters who broke through a window to help them get out. they threw ropes down for them to attach to their belts. we'll bring you a bit of that. nancy pelosi is lashing out when asked whether she considered stepping down after the

democrats' crushing defeat in the mid-terms. she did not like that question. who what was the day any of you said to mitch mcconnell when they lost the senate three times in a row, making progress and taking back the senate three times in a row, aren't you getting a little old, shouldn't you step aside? martha: she goes on further man that and it gets interesting. is that treatment of her sexist? our panel debates coming up. leland: the president is getting alone on immigration. bill o'reilly says the president is mock can the constitution and has declared war on republicans. we'll talk with a top republican senator about what he thinks. martha: we'll talk with "the man who killed usama bin laden." he reveals something president bush said early on that morning of 9/11 and stayed with him on

that fateful night in pakistan. >> i thought how did i remember those words. and i said that's better than counting. i will realized the as the door was opening and i could see pakistan. this is it and we are on this police and we are going to dohi this. that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates.

martha: house democratic leaders are running for their posts. when a reporter asked minority

leadered nancy pelosi if in the wake of these wills she had given any thought to stepping down from her leadership position she called out the media for sexism. >> when was the lay day when any of you said toy mitch mcconnell when they lost the senate three times in a row, aren't you getting a little old niche? shouldn't you step aside in have you ever asked him that question? have of any you ever asked him that question? i don't understand why that question should even come up. but it's just as interesting as a woman to see how many times that question is asked of a woman and how many times that ask is never asked of mitch mcconnell. when we won the house and that was largely an initiative i started around 2000 to take us to a place where we would win the house, that was a big thing.

i was the first woman to do it. wasn't that a curiosity. boehner is on the front of "time" magazine. is there a pattern here? my -- i don't depend on that. but as a woman, is there a message here? martha: there is the time * magazine cover pelosi was referring to'. there is a picture of mitch mcconnell and it's harkening back to the hope picture of president obama when he won in 2008. mary katharine ham, this interchange caught my eye this morning because i thought it was quite interesting that she went on and on and on about that

point. what do you make of it, juan? >> i think you hurt her feeling. from her perspective, i think she has been dismissed and not treated with the seriousness she would like for herself, knowing her, and feels there is a clear distinction not on in terms of age, but in terms of being a woman. i think she feels she made history as the first female speaker of the house but didn't get sufficient attention. martha: i remember quite a bit of attention being given to that moment and to nancy pelosi and all of the women ushered in during that moment and how proud they all were standing with nancy pelosi. i wonder, you can take stock of a lot of things, when the people of the country speak. but i wonder if there shunne --e shouldn't be more focus on

policy. i don't know if this is about a woman or being too old for anything. >> i'm not somebody who denied there are double standards. her caucus experience is a significant loss for a second time. a normal question to ask, do you think you will be in leadership because there was a significant loss? and the idea that john boehner mass never been asked that question and mitch mcconnell has never been asked that question is crazy. on the age thing i think the question is are you going to be in leadership. not are you too old to be in leadership and she turned it into that. martha: they might have and we didn't harper it. she says she has been asked that question several times. i didn't hear anything that would signal you are getting too old. >> the other thing is mitch mcconnell with all due respect to him is referred quite

literally as an old white man quite frequently. i believe alison grimes ran on that. martha: there is an ignoring of the under lying policies. we heard over and over in the exit polls on why people wanted a change of power. it goes back to the valerie jarrett argument as well. and that turned into a sexism discussion as well for some reason. >> i think in the aftermath of the election there is an argument in d.c. about the old nature of the democratic leadership. we are talking not only about pelosi and harry reid and whether they are sitting on you a new gemration of democrats trying to come up and are being stuntsd. this is not a game for spring

chickens. there are young republican guns out there making their park in terms of trying to reach the republican nomination in 2016. people in their early 40s. martha: are you saying you think the democratic party needs to move on from some of these leaders and need newer leadership? >> what you have on the democratic side, a lot of younger minority voices who are not rising up. what you heard from mary katharine, older white, there is an old cohort of older white republicans. i think they are capable of leadership and good ideas on energy. but on the democratic side they have the large cohort on the

younger end and they have not risen up in terms of public policy. but you don't see them challenging nancy pelosi. martha: i think it's about ideas. i can name plenty of older people in business in this country coming up with lots of brand-new ideas on how to do things. i think it's about ideas, not about age or sex. >> i think they ignore the actual policy implications of the law at their own peril. if you don't deal with those issues the age of our leaderrship won't -- the leadership. the rise of the democratic party and the youth cohort that pushed obama to power put a premium on youth. now that this group of republicans has couple they want to make it off limits to talk about age. martha: good to see you both. leland: some scary moments as a

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martha: an explosion at a concrete plant outside houston leaving two workers seriously injured. heavy flames and black smoke pouring from that facility, it took crews about an hour to put the fire out. no word on the condition of the victims this morning, the cause is under investigation. ♪ ♪ leland: in a rare moment, israeli and arab leaders are agreeing to work together to try and calm running street battles over holy sites in jerusalem, this comes after a meeting between secretary of state john kerry, israeli prime minister netanyahu and king abdullah of

jordan. violent demonstrations and deadly attacks in recent weeksing in and -- weeks in and around jerusalem. friday prayers let out a i few hours ago so, john, do we see a repeat of the violence, or did those talks help? >> reporter: well, the talks seem to have helped. things are much calmer, leland, than they have been for the last couple days and weeks for that matter. but, look, there's still tension because the terror attacks earlier this week, the stabbings and then those vehicle attacks last week are still fresh in people's minds. but again, at this point things have calmed down. having said that, earlier today there were some clashes between israeli police and groups of palestinians in the west bank at one of the major border crossings, but no major rioting, no widespread violence since then and no terror attacks. and also helping ease the tension and calm things down at this point, israel has lifted the age restrictions at the temple mount or noble sanctuary

as it's known by muslims because of rioting there the past few weeks, pretty intense fighting. police restricted access to only men over 50 and women. again, that restriction has been lifted. there was concern that after friday powers today, leland, as you mentioned, there were going to be more problems, but so far we haven't seen that happen. leland? leland: well, you're going all the way back to earlier this summer when hamas operatives kidnapped and killed those three israeli teenagers. there'd been all this talk that israel was truly on the brink of another uprising by the palestinians. are we still at that point, or has the steam been let out and the water ceasing to boil? >> reporter: well, we'll see. i mean, the talks have helped, but there is the possibility and concern that the issue, if not resolved, could lead to a possible third intifada. israel and jordan committed to taking a series of, quote-unquote, specific and

practical steps to calm the tension, and palestinian leaders likewise promised to try and stop the violence and change the overall tense atmosphere here as much as possible. but again, leland, if the waves of violence continue and the issues that are fueling the fighting -- namely israeli expansion into the west bank and lack of a political process towards a palestinian state -- if these issues are not resolved, it could very well, according to many people here, the concern is anyway, it could lead to a third intifada. leland? leland: such a dangerous time in a dangerous part of the world. martha? martha: bill o'reilly believes the president is effectively going to war already over the issue of immigration. >> mr. obama makes no distinction, appealing to his left-wing base on humanitarian grounds. but by initiating an executive order that changes federal law with a signature, barack obama mocks the founding fathers and

the republican party. martha: president obama says that republicans have fallen short on this issue, but is he being too impatient? we'll talk about it. leland: then, the man who killed osama bin laden reveals to martha whether he believes in fate and if he thinks it was his destiny to be the man who pulled the trigger. >> i joined the navy, and she was worried about me going to seal training which is the hardest training in the world, and i would say, mom, don't worry about me, i'm here to do something special. then the war started and finally i did call her in early may of 2011, and i said, all right, mom, i think that special thing, i just did it. óqoqúúñ@

♪ ♪ leland: the showdown over immigration continues. president obama's getting set to take executive action with the stroke of a pen that leaves capitol hill completely on the sidelines. bill o'reilly says the president is, quote: declaring war on the

republican party and making a joke of the constitution. >> the ten-point immigration plan the president would impose on the nation is, essentially, an amnesty for millions of people. some of them deserve a break. some of them do not. but mr. obama makes no distinction, appealing to his left-wing base on humanitarian grounds. but by initiating an executive order that changes federal law with a signature, barack obama mocks the founding fathers and the republican party. if he does this, the president will pay a heavy price now with government chaos and later on the pages of history. leland: senator john barrasso of wyoming is chairman of the senate republican policy committee, joins us now from capitol hill. senator, is bill right? is this war? >> well, my concern is that the president is ignoring the american people, he's rejecting what the voters said just a little over a week ago, and it's

not an executive order, it's executive amnesty. that's my concern. we need to do immigration reform. we have just, though, had this election. we have all these new members coming in. i think it's important that we work together to actually modernize our immigration laws. to me, that starts with border security and enforcement. leland: it seems like the president's willing to go alone on this in terms of actually what the republicans are able to do, we've heard a lot of statements, things like toxic, things like war, things like poisoning the well, all these kinds of words. what really are republicans prepared to do to take the fight back to the president? are we going to see something like a government shutdown? is there going to be showdowns on other things in terms of this, or is the only option the republicans have continuing to talk? >> well, i would have wished that the president and the cooler heads had prevailed at the white house. it doesn't appear to be the case. we'll take every legislative approach we can to reverse what the president may be trying to

do here. but it may be not number that people just voted -- not enough that people just voted last week. they may need to do more; calling the white house, calling your senator's office and saying you oppose this level of executive action which is executive amnesty. >> speaking of this, is there any common ground between the republicans and the democrats that could have gotten passed? for years we've been hearing um gration reform, immigration reform. it hasn't happened. what are the points in president obama's executive action if it comes out that you all could have agreed on, if any? >> well, i don't think anybody has seen the whole action plan of executive amnesty by the president, but there are things we need to do with border security and enforcement, number one, issues of e-verify, issues of merit-based, skills-based visas. there are a number of things that can be done. the president's not going to be able to get everything he wants, but i think the american voter said we want you to cooperate, work together, find common

ground. there is common ground there that i think we can pass in the new house and senate once the new members are actually sworn many. so i think that the president is premature in his actions right now. leland: if you just look at the optics of what's going on here, right after the election president obama invites leadership up to the white house for a lunch. they talk about bipartisan cooperation, all of that. and then all of a sudden we have this on immigration which is clearly a nuclear bomb, if you will, in terms of politics in washington. what does this mean for the next couple of years in terms of any type of working relationship between a house and a senate controlled by the republicans, heavy republican majorities at least in the house and then, obviously, a white house now with a very lame duck president? >> well, i was at that white house lunch last friday, and as i said then, the tone that the president sets for the next two months before the new congress takes over does set the tone for the next two years. i'm looking for areas of bills

that have already passed the house in bipartisan support where a number of democrats have voted for those on jobs, on the economy, on education, on affordable energy, affordable health care. and i want to get those to the president's desk. that's what we want to do come january. now, the president's going to have to decide what he's going to veto and what he's going to sign, but he ought to sign the laws into law things that have been blocked in the harry reid-controlled senate that actually get our country moving ahead, getting people back to work and helping our economy. leland: we'll see if you on capitol hill and the president live up to bipartisan cooperation or not. obviously, an a interesting couple of weeks, couple of months coming up. >> thanks, leland. i'm a lot less concerned about the president trying to do an end run around congress than i am about it around the american people. leland: an interesting point, more sure, and one that -- for sure, and one that a lot of

folks spoke about in the election. >> thank you. martha: so mid november, much of the country experiencing its first snowfall of the season. a winter storm earlier this week moved into the northeast delivering anywhere from a dusting of snow to a foot in parts of new england. creating hazardous conditions from tennessee to maine. maria molina joining us with our first real brush with old man winter. >> reporter: hi, martha. looks like he's going to be tick thing around -- sticking around for at least another week. temperatures 40 degrees below average for this time of year, so a little bit early on winter conditions across the country. here we are. as you've seen the past 12 hours, producing snow across portions of new england, most areas along the coast picking up some rain and seeing mixed with snow. off to the great lakes, you have that very cold air moving over the relatively warmer great lakes and that's producing some

showers, so we're seeing accumulation from that. and part off towards the -- farther off towards the west we have a storm system that's been producing very heavy snowfall amounts across portions of the northwestern united states and also across parts of the oregon cascades. significant accumulation out there, exceeding a foot in some areas. temperature wise, take a look at how cold the lower 48 is right now. you're currently at 19 below zero for your wind chill in rapid city, that's what it feels like when people head outdoors. texas, current wind chill temperatures in the 30s. 30 all the way down to the city of new orleans. so we're not just looking at northern areas experiencing cold conditions, but even down through parts of texas and even the southeastern united states. as we head into this weekend, that storm system out west is going to be moving eastward, and take a look at what happens by noon saturday. this is snow across places like kansas, missouri, iowa and even into parts of nebraska and then eventually that system impacts

parts of the great lakes as we head into sunday morning. significant snowfall accumulation expected across the rockies, especially the higher elevations could get more than a foot. but out here across the plains, martha, maybe an inch, three inches of snow out here. but a part of the country that really doesn't see it especially this early. martha: yeah, a little bit early, pre-thanksgiving. ma ya, thank you so much. leland: a police officer shoots out the driver's window of an suv. here it is. and now dash cam video that's just coming to light is putting a whole new spin on the case. martha: and part two of my interview with retired navy seal rob to kneel, is he worried about his safety, his family's safety now that he has come forward with his story? we're going to talk about that. stay tuned, it's next. >> i've assumed a lot of risk before, and because the, you know, after assessing the risk, like we say, the squeeze is worth the juice. this is bigger than me, it's more important than my safety, so i'm willing to risk it to

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re re a woman claims police used excessive force while she was driving drunk. take a look. [gunfire] leland: they shot her when officers say they were in fear for their lives. the driver survived, she lost her left eye. it happened about two years ago in utah. the video is just surfacing now in a trial where the driver is now suing police after they say she refused orders to stop. martha: last hour we played part one of my interview with the man who killed osama bin laden, robert o'neill. i also asked him, though, about his family who he is very close to. most of them were in the studio with us as we had our discussion, and we asked him about how the words of president bush stuck with him and impacted him at the most important moment of his life. watch this. we talked about the flight into pakistan over afghanistan and how you were counting up and

back from a thousand -- >> yes. martha: -- that you had trained yourself to do as a sniper, and that words came into your head from president bush, and i want to play those and talk to you about that. let's listen. >> freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward. freedom will be defended. martha: we all remember those words that president bush said just shortly after it happened. were those words that had gone through your head in the time since then, or did they pop into your head on that flight? >> i had heard that quote, obviously, before, and i thought it was very, very fitting. but to have it pop in at, you know, ten minutes before we're going to go into osama bin laden's compound was, to me, almost surreal. i took a moment to say how did i remember these word, and then i decided, okay, that's better than counting. so i kept saying that over and over. and i realized as the door was opening and i could see pakistan, i was like, wow, this is it. we are going to do this. martha: did you ever have a chance to tell plush those words

inspired you? -- president bush those words inspired you? >> i haven't yet. i did get a handwritten letter. i have something i wore on the mission specifically for him because this war started on his watch, and i wanted to make sure he had a piece of that. martha: are you going to share that with him someday? >> oh, absolutely. i can't wait. martha: and you have that quota tood on my arm as i understand it. >> i did. we sat there and he did it, and i said how much do i owe you? and he said, i think you already paid for this one. [laughter] martha: i wonder, do you feel that -- some of us, you think you're born to do something, and i know that you give can credit to everybody along the way including the firefighters and everybody who was on the scene that day at 9/11. but do you feel like you were put on this earth to be standing in that room at that moment? >> well, no. but i did joke about that. when i was growing up, i'd always tell my mother, to ease her mind, don't worry, mom, i'm

here to do something special. and it's tongue in cheek. then i joined the navy, and she was worried about me going through seal training. i would say, mom, don't worry about me, i'm here to do something special. then i deployed, the war started, and finally i did call her in early may of 2011, and i said, all right, mom, you can start worrying, that special thing, i just did it. martha: your dad's emotion was so palpable in terms of how he felt when he learned what you had done. what has his support -- >> well, always been the most supportive. his support means everything to me. he and i, i grew up playing basketball with him, he taught me about how to be a team, he played college basketball. we were always doing that stuff together. you know, he did little stuff. somehow he snuck his way on to the compound with my mother after i finished hell week, and he's saying you're not dreaming, i didn't believe he was real because i'd been awake for five days, but he's always been my number one fan.

martha: one of the questions that a lot of people asked me is the question about your family's safety now that you've come out and explained what you are and who you are. what do you think about that? >> i'm concerned with it. i think we definitely have stuff in place that i'm not going to get into, and i'm in touch with law enforcement which is good. for my own safety, yeah. i've assumed risk before in my life, a lot of risk before. because the, you know, after assessing the risk, like we say, the squeeze is worth the juice. this is bigger than me, it's more important than my safety, so i'm willing to risk it to help these people that went through hell. martha: i know you've been criticized by some and hailed as a huge hero by most all, and i want to thank you for what you did for this country and the peace that you did bring to those families, some of which i know myself. >> of course. martha: and on behalf of them, i thank you so much for what you did, rob, and i thank you very much for telling your story and giving us all a moment of real patriotism and deep feeling for you and for our country because

of it. thank you very much. >> thank you so much for having me, martha. martha: great to meet you. >> great to meet you too. leland: incredible interview. martha: he's a nice guy. it's very interesting to sit next to somebody who will walk through the rest of his life with that on him. and i wonder, you know, he has a lot of plans for helping veterans transition, being an inspirational speaker which he's very good at. leland: you can imagine. martha: he's a great speaker. so it'll be interesting to watch him, you know, sort of move into the next stage of his life after all this. leland: i don't think he'll ever have to buy a beer again. martha: i don't think so so either. people said just say thank you and buy him a beer. leland: anytime. we're all waiting. martha: absolutely. leland: all right. well, you know, there's not much more relaxing than heading out kayaking in the ocean. beautiful day, couple of friends, and then comes that terrible feeling that you are being followed by right there, jaws. a hammerhead shark getting way too close for comfort.

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leland: the shark was this big. [laughter] oil fields are gushing all across america, now making the u.s. the world's largest oil producer, and the energy boom is leading to calls to lift the ban on exporting some of that black gold overseas. remember, that ban's been in place now for 40 years. adam houseley is live in l.a., so, adam, take us through this argument now for exporting the oil. >> reporter: yeah. well, simply put, the u.s. should be allowed to compete, that's what a lot of different companies, of course, in the oil industry are saying, and outsiders saying the same thing. this whole idea the u.s. shouldn't be allowed to sell oil overseas is obsolete. it all heark pes back, of course, to the gas lines in the '70s and the arab crisis back then. the u.s. is now the world's largest oil producer s and there are calls at home and awe broad to change that policy. mexico and south korea, two countries that very much want u.s. crude. they say it's more, it's more consistent, they don't have to worry about the problems in the middle east, it'll close a gap

they need, and the question comes against free trade versus protectionism. and a lot of people say overall it'll really help on the global stage. >> we need to get out of that mindset of scarcity and move to the reality of rich abundance and treat energy just like we do other commodities and look to find global markets to put our product out there, put our people to work at home, and it'll benefit everyone. >> reporter: people say that putting the product out there also potentially could lower prices here in the u.s., leland, but pitting more oil -- putting more oil on the stage and driving prices down. leland: take us through what folks who want to keep all the crude here say. >> reporter: well, they say right now things may be going good, but that could always change. it might be the situation where the country is safe and it's secure, but what happens if we have another oil crisis? that's really the argument they will make and say we really need to make sure we keep our oil here at home. the obama administration has shown little interest in opening the spigot, but a recent study

by brookings concluded it would be in the country's best interest. again, people say things are good now, but that could all change. >> how can it possibly be in our interest to export crude oil that can be processed, in essence, manufactured here in the united states? why don't we concentrate on the security of the country? >> reporter: whether you're in favor of it or not, most analysts agree it's not a matter of if, but when the u.s. will be allowed to compete. leland: thanks, adam houseley, live in l.a.6789 martha? martha: the battle lines are drawn as president obama gets ready to announce sweeping executive orders on the issue of immigration. the latest on his agenda and the coming showdown on the hill. we'll be right back. (receptionist) gunderman group.

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