eric: we'll see you back in a hour. heather: outnumbered starts now. >> right now we are awaiting a vote to approve the coestone -- keystone oil pipeline. so this is setting the stage potentially for something big to happen, because for the first time in the six-year fight over the pipeline, there will be a bicameral vote. today is the ninth attempt by the house to get approval for the pipeline which has been repeatedly delayed, as you know, by environmental reviews, legal challenges and politics, as we've opinion reporting to you. but this week senate democrats dropped their opposition in hopes of helping out one of their own, louisiana senator mary landrieu. but note this: the white house has just hinted at a possible presidential veto. so even if it got to his desk,

he may still stamp no on the pipeline. we're watching for this vote as it happens. we'll bring you the news right off the hill. ♪ ♪ >> this is "outnumbered," i'm ann andrea tantaros, and here with us today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, kirsten powers, and actor/producer kirk cameron. as much as we love him, kirk, you are outnumbered. >> i am so outnumbered, i know. i know. but i'm excited to be here. [laughter] >> thrilled to have you. >> thank you for having me. >> do you get sick and tired of women coming up to you telling you they had a poster in their room of you when they were a child? >> no, i think it's adorable. [laughter] i really do. just the other day i lieu on a mike -- threw on a mike siever wig -- >> you mean that hair wasn't

real? >> oh, man! i thought the mullet was real. [laughter] >> were you really? >> show me that smile, ooh, show me that smile -- ♪ ♪ >> you knew this was going to happen, right? >> yeah, yeah. we're big fans. >> are you sick of it? >> i'm not. if it weren't for mike siever, i wouldn't be sitting with you four. >> we're not going to bore you with got growing pains," we're going to talk about your new movie. the administration pulling the wool over the american public's eyes four times now we've heard mit's jonathan gruber calling the american stupid. the latest gruber talking about the health care law in massachusetts which has been cited as a model for obamacare and how the late senator ted kennedy and other smart people scammed the federal government into paying for it. here now some of describer's greatest -- gruber's greatest

hits. >> call it the stupidity of the american voter -- >> too stupid to understand it. basic exploitation of the economic understanding of the voter. the dirty secret in massachusetts is the feds pay for our bill. ted kennedy and other people have figured out a way to rib up the -- rip off the feds. >> the reaction in washington and beyond has been furious. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer says gruber's candor may set the stage for obamacare's eventual fall. >> there is no mistake. he said it again and again and again. i think it will set the mood for repeal of these elements. >> meantime, n journal's ron fournier says the gruber fiasco is a big blow to more than just the president and his legislation. >> it undermines the president's credibility even further, it undermines the central element of the democratic party that a government is honest and

transparent and get things done well, it undermines their faith, frankly, in the media which to a large degree has been giving this whole issue a pass. >> the controversy over gruber's stupid american remarks overshadowing what could be a shining moment for the white house. tomorrow's kickoff for obamacare enrollment. as the administration promises a new and improved web site and a new and improved sign-up experience. all right, kirk. your thoughts when you saw the first, then the second, then the third, then the fourth -- we get it. he thinks that we're stupid, that he has ripped off the american people and that obama's administration was complicit in this. >> well, as an american, i'll be honest, this isn't the first time a liberal's called me stupid. this isn't my first rodeo. [laughter] and what's interesting, i think, though is it really wasn't directed at people like me. this is really, i think, something that's particularly offensive to the people who actually trusted that everything was on the up and up, and they're the ones who are feeling

deceived. hey, we thought that thing was above board, and they're the ones who are feeling so disrespected. >> kirsten, you mentioned yesterday the lack of media coverage finish for this story. what's been the response from your friends? >> i don't think they even know that it happened. a couple senators were asked about it, you know, coming off of the floor, and they said, oh, i haven't heard about it, i don't know what you're talking about. so i suspect, you know, i'll have to check in with my family. i bet they don't even know that it happened because it's not being covered by the networks. i think cnn and jake tapper, of course, at cnn is the only person outside of fox who's talked about it. >> i think they did mention that nancy pelosi doesn't even know who he is -- >> right. >> after she originally was touting the guy and his work on the bill. >> which "the washington post" said was a lie, she knows exactly who he is. so she thinks we're stupid. >> you know where i'm going with all this, and that's our

taxpayer dollars went into this guy's pocket for designing this bill. we now know that he earned almost $400,000 from the obama administration, okay? so senator john barrasso is actually calling for him to give back that money based on the revelations of these recent videos. what i also want to know is who was in the room, and why did it take years for us to find out he was making these comments? >> yeah. >> you know, there's some red flags here as a journalist that i see, and i hear kirsten talking about, you know, this man's background and who knew him and who didn't. i'm telling you, if you are on the hill right now, you might want to see what comments you made about mr. gruber, you might want to see if there's any other tape. former senator max baucus says most people believe gruber is one of the best outside experts. he said that. senator harry reid, nevada, currently the house leader until the end of the year, called gruber, quote: one of the most respected economists in the world. so there's some people who had him on their radar at one point

at the exception of obamacare. so that's a red flag to me because he called him an outside expert. as sandra just pointed out, he wasn't so outside. he was hired as a consultant by the hhs. >> helped set up romneycare. >> right. they wanted access to his model that he set up for romney care, and they paid $360,000 that we've been able to source to have access. we don't know how many total dollars they paid for him. >> the real way to sink obamacare through this is, remember, the first tape that surfaced -- and we discussed this yesterday -- was him saying that it was intentional, that they set up the law so that you had to, if you were a state and you wanted those subsidies, set up an exchange. remember, the supreme court is going to hear this case. if you want to unravel obamacare, you haul gruber up. forget asking him about the stupidity of those comments to the american people, ask him if it was intentional. get him to say that under oath because that will unravel the bill. the supreme court justices will say, oh, so it wasn't a drafting

error. got it. if that's how you want to unravel obamacare, that's the way to do it. >> can you imagine being those people at home who are about to enroll and wondering, what's going on in washington? we're covering it, people, keep watching. we're going to move on. a new report has found major faults with the secret service. i'm not sure if that's breaking news. >> shocker. >> the department of homeland security review outlines the missteps and failures that allowed a man to allegedly climb a fence and barge into the white house armed with a knife. out happened in september. that suspect, omar gonzalez, was eventually caught, but the report finds he could have been caught much sooner. alarm systems and radios failed to respond properly. many officers just didn't see him. dude, what ya doing? [laughter] delayed their response as well. an officer who was supposed to be stationed on the north lawn with an attack dog at the ready was in his van, people, talking on his personal cell phone.

that officer did not have his radio earpiece in. well, no, because he was on the phone, you know? and the second radio he was supposed to have was in his locker. kirsten, you cannot make this up. >> yeah. i don't -- and the thing is, it's one thing, i think, if you're working, i don't know, on some other job where it doesn't involve life and death and protecting the president and you do things like this. but it's your job to be there protecting the white house. to be so cavalier, i don't understand it. it's not like you're just making someone wait in a line a little longer to get their sandwich, you know what i mean? you are supposed to be protecting the president of the united states. >> you know, kirk, i'm wondering -- and i loved how you started today "as an american," if we don't protect our president, what are we interested in protecting? >> yeah. you know what it makes me think about is i think of my own family. my wife and i have six kids. i need to protect my family, and this is my responsibility. you know, looking at the secret service, i'm not a security

professional, and so i can't tell anyone how to run a security agency, but i know that as a father of six kids and a small business owner, you can't run anything without responsibility and accountability. >> do you feel like -- i don't think there's been any accountability here. >> right. >> there really hasn't, as the record shows. when you look at the report that was just released from the committee on homeland security, they acknowledged major failures in in communications, confusion about protocols, gaps in training. the next line, andrea, while some of these problems can be attributed to a lack of resources, how many -- how much of this are they going to say, well, we didn't have enough money to properly protect the president of the united states. >> we know what our government's been spending money on. [laughter] we know they spend money on crazier things. let's hope they wouldn't scrimp on keeping the president safe. i'm reading this report that sandra just mentioned, kirk. they saw this man, mr. gonzalez, numerous times before he actually jumped the fence. they found him with a rifle,

rifles in his vehicle, they -- >> [inaudible] >> they said he had hunting gear, four hatchets, empty firearms cases, a folding knife, and each time they let him go -- >> those are red flags. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> flying everywhere. >> and add in a map of d.c., the white house circled with the rifles in the car. >> yeah. i wouldn't have expected that. i was with my sons, and we were visiting some friends in louisiana, came back home, and the, you know, tsa was there, and you feel so safe on the plane, right? we went through, my son had a necklace that was a bullet shell. it was filled with, like, mustard seeds of faith, this great little souvenir. but you couldn't get through there. even though it was nothing, you couldn't get through because of the security. i never would have expected that the white house would have less security going on than -- >> good point. >> -- what i'm feeling when i get on the plane. >> someone carrying a mustard seed of faith. >> yeah.

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progress in taking back the senate three times in a row, aren't you getting a little old, mitch? shouldn't you step aside? have you ever asked him that question? have you ever -- have any of you ever asked him that question? >> congressman pelosi's not stopping there. she goes on about how such questions are demeaning to women, how she has to stick up for women on this issue and making this comparison when mentioning her time as speaker of the house. >> everyone kind of "time" magazine was the first woman. wasn't that a curiosity, that the republicans win, boehner's on the cover of "time" magazine, isn't there a pattern here? now, as i said, my -- who i am does not depend on any of that, with all due respect to all of you. but as a woman, it's like is there a message here? >> oh, man. >> preach, sister, that's what i say. >> really? >> when i was -- when she first started, i thought, oh, no, here

we go. and then i thought she raised some good points. why wasn't she on the cover of "time" magazine when she was the first woman speaker of the house and the men were? why wasn't mitch mcconnell -- >> nancy pelosi has garnered so much positive press, she's received the glamour magazine woman of the year award -- >> that's not the same. >> and by the way, when republicans were drubbed in 2006, i was on the hill. the male leaders got those exact questions about -- >> thank you. >> this is so ridiculous. she's whining, she sounds crazy, by the way. >> i don't think she sounds crazy at all. i think she sounds perfectly reasonable. >> you know why it's deceptive? because she says would you ever ask a man if he's too old, and that's not what the reporter asked. people think that, but no one was implying that. >> as a mom, and sandra and i exchanged those glowing mother looks, because when your child is disappointed, this is what they do.

when their team has lost, this is what they do. they try to deflect. they say, no, it must be because of this. no, your team lost. that's all. and the question is, do you still want to lead that team in any capacity, even if it's a diminished one? >> i don't remember anyone saying mitch mcconnell -- >> whoa, whoa, wait. allison grimes referred to -- >> but a reporter. that's an opponent in a race. of course she's's going to do that. she said have you guys, reporters in front of me, done the same thing to mitch mcconnell? >> and they have. >> no, they haven't. >> they did it to hastert, delay, all of them, kirsten. i would be sitting in the room. they asked them the same question. >> it did not happen to mitch mcconnell. >> so when your kids don't agree, what do you do? >> may i put it this way? i just think it's funny that when someone wants to be treated equally with men, like one of the guys, not differently, and then they're treated the way men

treat other men which tends to be kind of rough, it's just a little awkward when they then complain that someone threw an elbow. >> interesting. >> oh, wow. >> i think she's more than capable of playing with the boys, and she throws a lot of elbows. what she was saying was directed at the media, and i think it was a fair point. and i don't think she was being chiewldish or anything like that -- childish or anything like that. >> well, i think -- >> and i'm outnumbered. [laughter] >> i don't think she believes those words in her heart. >> i do. >> i don't. i think she knows that she's tough, she eats men on capitol hill for breakfast. >> she is tough. >> and i think she knows she's been celebrated, and if she doesn't think that, then her ego is way bigger than i ever thought. >> i don't think -- >> okay. if you're sitting there, perhaps the follow-up question would have been, congresswoman pelosi, if it's, you know, okay with you, can we talk about this issue and not talk about your age and not talk about your gender and just get to the brass tacks? you have been on the hill a very long time, your team just lost.

in adiminished capacity, do you still want to lead them? it's basically the same question as andrea pointed out, but maybe -- >> you've been this since world war ii. it's a fair question, right? [laughter] i guess we can't ask her any questions because she's a woman. our one lucky guy is sparking lots of conversation over his views on family values. his advice for bringing more joy into your home and just six weeks after chelsea clinton gave birth, a new interview that's raising the question, is the media love fest with the clintons beginning anew? ♪ ♪ the holiday season is here,

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." it looks like the media's

already buttering up the clintons, and hillary hasn't even declared a presidential run for 2016 yet. in an interview, yahoo! global news anchor katie couric showered compliments on former first daughter chelsea clinton including when she asked chelsea about being a new mom to six-week-old charlotte. >> a woman of the year, and i think it's safe to say probably a mom of the year -- >> oh, i hope charlotte thinks so. she's only six weeks old, so i don't know what she thinks. >> how are you enjoying motherhood? >> i'm so happy, katie. >> and then the interview turned to the difficulty of having parents who are so celebrated. listen. >> to have parents who are so accomplished, i'm wondering, was it difficult for you, chelsea, harder perhaps to find your own way to make your own mark when you have parents that are as celebrated or as well known as yours are? >> i don't know how to answer that question because i only lived my own life. i certainly spent my 20s

rebelling, for me, by working in the private sector. >> i don't know, kirk, maybe this is just my take on it, but chelsea even seems uncomfortable with the flattery from katie couric, at one point saying my daughter's only six weeks old. [laughter] what did you make of this there. >> oh, boy. [laughter] i want to support all moms everywhere. >> good answer. >> when it come toss the mom of the year award, i agree, chelsea cameron wins the award. she's got six kids. she's been, you know, raising them for 18 years, and our kids are 18, 16, 15, 14, 13 and 11. >> wow. >> so in my book, she wins the award. >> wow. good for you. >> good, solid answer, kirk. very safe too. >> but, andrea, should we expect more of this? iwe don't even have an announced presidential run by hillary clinton yet, but already look at katie couric showering the first daughter, the former first daughter with compliments. >> yeah. cue the sucking sounds. okay, we get it.

[laughter] we saw the president, right, president obama get the nobel peace prize before he did anything, her daughter's only six weeks old. i'm sure she's a good mom -- >> yeah. >> but she could be the worst in the world. should we nominate you, sandra, for being the best mom in the world, and you haven't even given birth? >> she has a 17-month-old who's amazing. >> wow, thank you. what do you want, harris? [laughter] >> it does feel like a little bit too much, key -- kirsten. your talk on it. >> it seems strange. i was trying to figure out why she would even say something like that. did chelsea do something we didn't hear about? it's tine to say if you want -- fine to say if you want to focus on the work she's doing for the foundation or globally, but that just seemed so gratuitous, and i think you're right, chelsea did seem a little uncomfortable. >> you know, hillary clinton's really owning the new grandmother role and, in fact, at one point before the birth of her new granddaughter she said it is really going to depend on how she feels in this new state

of grandmotherhood, whether or not she's going to run for president. so we still have yet to find that out. >> i feel so, i don't know, i'm dialing up my cynicism right now on the couch. >> uh-oh. >> and i don't want to think this, i really don't, but i wondered, you know, maybe she's thinking if i grease up this interview, then i'll have a conduit down the road. >> maybe hillary will announce the run to me, interesting. >> i want to think she was genuine in her comments and just from one mother to another putting off as how she saw her. but when you say things like that, you wonder, okay, does that mean i'm going to have a little bit better stead with this person in the future? >> and i think there's always the desire to find the new royalty, and for a lot of liberals, this is the royalty. the clintons, chelsea, new baby charlotte, so maybe she's looking at them like that, like will and kate, you know? >> why don't you just say, chelsea, is it hard being so amazing? [laughter] >> what's that perfume you're

wearing? is it awesome? is it awesome sauce? [laughter] is that perfume awesome sauce? okay, our hashtag one lucky guy is giving families something to talk about this holiday season, sparking a renewed conversation on family values. kirk recently took his girls to 19 kids and counting jesse dug garre's wedding in an effort to show them the kind of, quote, moral excellence and purity that is rare today, end quote. also on facebook and twitter he reminded moms about their important role in the home, and he just told you about his wife. watch. >> let your children, your family see your joy in the way that you decorate your home this christmas. in the food that you cook, the songs you sing, the stories you tell and the traditions that you keep. >> all right. so -- [laughter] you've been telling us, kirk, chelsea, your wife -- >> yes. >> six chirp. family values -- six children. first of all, tell me about the wedding because there were some things that caught your eye. >> this is the duggar wedding.

i went there because my daughter anna said, dad, we are so going when we got an invitation. and i thought, well, i'm going to arkansas? i live in california, we're busy, a lot of stuff going on, but i thought to myself as a father you've got to grab moments that you want to be etched into your children's minds because you don't have that many of them. 18 years has gone by like that for me already, and i knew this wedding was going to be unique and special. my daughters so looked up to this family that not only looed god, but loved each other to the point that they decided -- this was their choice -- to save their first kiss for their wedding day. and i'm going, when am i ever going to see this again in my lifetime? >> and they ended up -- >> they ran out of the church to go make out in private. and my daughters were just there, and i wanted to be able to have that conversation with them about purity, about, you know, what kind of -- who are you and what are you going to be all about, and what do you want to offer to your husband. >> but, kirk, your recent comments about the woman in the

home and the christmas season were perceived not exactly how you intended. a lot of women perceive this as you should be at home taking care of your kids. i know what you meant by it, and i believe in what you said, but when i first read it, i wanted to ask you what you were going to think about in eight months, a person sitting on this couch at work eight months pregnant and holding a career. do you have a problem with that? [laughter] >> no, no. my wife and i make movies together. we met working on the set. my favorite headline was kirk cameron says women need to get back home and put on a happy face. [laughter] why didn't you add barefoot and pregnant too? >> what did you mean? >> what i mean is i see how hard my wife works, and she has chosen to reserve her time, her energy, everything at this chapter in her life to pour into six kids which is a huge job. and i know that it is not a little offensive to millions of moms out there who have chosen to do the same thing and sacrifice so much to be at home when they scrape their knee and

to have the house the way that they want, for someone to imply that that is somehow less than carrying a briefcase and having a job professionally. >> stay-at-home moms do get host in the conversation. >> they feel underappreciated. thank you for saying -- >> i was reading some of the media clips on your comment, and organizations that are supposed to be straight news -- yahoo! news -- the way that they wrote about your comment, it was like they were editorializing -- >> yeah. >> you think? [laughter] >> and they would go after your religion. how do you feel when they go after your religion and they call you those names? >> well, again, you know, so i've been called stupid recently, gruber, and then with, you know, ex-former teen guy now activist, religious -- [laughter] >> you've got a lot of titles. >> my thought is lean into all that stuff. and i put on the mullet wig and lean into it and say, look, i'm making a movie all about putting christ back into christmas

because this is who i am and try not to shy away from it. >> do you think it's intention intentional or misunderstanding? do you think it's possible people see what you say because their cultural context so different. >> i'll let you answer, but i read the headline, i was like, oh, my gosh, and then when i read what you said and listened to what you said, it could not be misinterpreted. >> uh-huh. >> so the tenet of my faith says love your enemies, treat others the way you want to be treated. that's the bottom line. i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it's really hard. [laughter] people repeating the same kind of twisted editorial. >> before we move on, i do want to real quickly ask you if your idea about how you want to work in hollywood and the type of film you want to do is informed by the life that you're living at home. >> absolutely. i want my kids to be able to say, hey, let's turn on the tv and see what dad's doing today. hey, this is an awesome conversation he's having with those ladies, or there's a movie

they want to go see. it does inform what i do. everyone's core convictions inform what they do whether it's in politics, business, entertainment or what you do in terms of your family or your faith. >> all right. wow, we are glad you're here. boy. we're learning more about a brand new report on surveillance, secret surveillance plans, that is, targeting americans' cell phonings. how the justice department is using airplanes to snatch data right out of the air. and the images painted over this mural causing an uproar in one school district. we'll show you who they put up to replace mother teresa, albert einstein and others. stay with us. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night,nd. and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. talk to your doctor about your symptoms and learn more by calling 844-824-2424.

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american and global heroes from the astronauts killed in the space shuttle columbia explosion ross, albert einstein and jackie robinson. but those paintings were replaced with oprah, or president obama, j.k. rowling and walt disney. foxnews.com's todd sterns first reported the story and got reactions from angry parents. they describe the new hall as depicting successful celebrities instead of actual heroes. so, harris, first of all, what do you think about this? >> well, i think it's a sad state of affairs that we want to have revisionist history on what important roles in community really mean. celebrities play a role, and i say we're in the grand age of infotainment. i think in that sense it's a sad state of affairs, that history

isn't allowed to have its place in our hearts and minds, that in order to sell it to the next generation, we've got to put a new face on it. >> i feel like maybe what they're trying to do is make it -- they've discovered maybe the only way to inspire kids today is through this, that maybe mother teresa just doesn't mean anything to them. what do you think? >> how about a mix of both? how about a mix of modern day heroes that can inspire our kids. they look up to basketball players, and they want to know their world view because they want to be like them. the thing that i see as problematic though is that today celebrity hero status can be bought, right? twitter popularity can rocket you to the top of that whereas back then they didn't have that option. it needed to be world class character and courage that really was culture changing just by the nature of who they were and what they did. and so i'd like to see both, but i'd like to see them be the people that really embody the values we want our kids -- >> so for me, i don't want to

judge who they put up there because, you know, if the kids decided this were the hall of heroes or the parents got together or the school decides, problem i have with this is the principal hand picked four staffers to decide because the wall, they said, was deteriorating, i don't get why they didn't just repaint mother teresa -- >> you'd think everyone would agree with mother teresa being a hero. >> i think we can all agree on that. but why did they not educate the children on these people, let them decide who made the hall of heroes? to have four staffers dictate what these kids are going to perceive as heroes, like oprah winfrey. >> probably kids would have gone with what they chose, don't you think? >> or it would have been lady gaga or miley cyrus. [laughter] >> i don't know. i mean, i understand kind of where they were going. you have a first black president, you had jackie robinson, but they played very different roles in our history. one does not supplant the other. >> isn't the jury still out on

president obama? >> well, he'll always be the first -- >> well, i can understand maya angelou and walt disney, i think, is probably a very important -- >> influential business leaders other mother teresa though. >> if you wipe away the past, which a lot of schools are doing, a lot of these kids don't and will never know who these people are. >> that's the fault of the teachers. >> it's too much about focusing on the right now. and as kirk mentioned, that celebrity worship which our culture does just fine. we don't need murals in our schools. >> that's our responsibility as parents and that's the responsibility of teachers, to teach real history. >> who needs 'em? >> and also steve jobs shows the children integrity? ingenuity, okay. do we know how he was in his perm life? >> i was going to say, i have a few things to say about that. [laughter] >> when it comes to box office successes, you aren't used to thinking about christian-based films, and our hashtag one lucky

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>> this is not what christmas is al about. >> someone will pull down every manger scene and tell us why our favorite christmas traditions are wrong. >> news flash, not in the bible. jesus was not born in december. >> exactly what the druids did. >> it's a car carjacking of our religion. >> isn't it time somebody spoke up? [laughter] >> i love your face. [laughter] your expression. that's so awesome. >> that was awesome. >> hilarious. >> that's a clip from "saving christmas," and as the movie tagline says, he's putting the christ back in christmas. his film is the latest edition to the growing ranks of christian-themed movies, and they're pulling audiences into theaters and raking in the money at the box office, big money. heaven is for real last spring

earned more than $90 million, and "god's not dead" making more than 60 million. meantime, some of hollywood's biggest stars like matthew mcconaughey and shia labeouf are speaking publicly about their christian faith. kirk, you have been very courageous speak out about this, and it is -- speaking out about this, and it is courageous. your film fireproof broke records, and i think it was because people were so excited to have something that celebrated marriages staying together and monogamy which is not celebrated or cherished in modern culture. >> >> i think you're right. it's a humorous irony when we see this stuff now, because i remember not too long ago when a lot of people were coming out of the closet in hollywood while a lot of the christians were running into the closet to hide because of their faith. they didn't want to be marginalized. and now you see all of these christians coming out of the closet because of their faith and because it's making bank at

the box office. i just came out of the closet early, you know, back in the day with my faith. and i think that people are understanding that those biblical themes that you see even with noah and with exodus coming out and god's not dead and these things, it's always resonated with people. all the -- >> why -- >> kill the dragon, get the girl, all the hero movies, all the movies that people are thrilled by ultimately stem back to some of those ancient stories that you find in scriptures. >> uh-huh. >> it still, like, shocks people. matthew mcconaughey's been one of the big actors who's recently publicly made his faith very clear, gwen stefani talking about praying. it still seems like it shocks people when they go there, wouldn't you say? >> it may shock people because it was so politically incorrect, but when you finally realize that, you know, movies that the whole family can go see and movie ises i think, again, naturally thrill the human heart, that's why we love those

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things happen to good people, that's the kind of stuff that keeps me going. at the end of my life if i can say, you know what? i helped somebody and i made the world a better place, and if i can point people in the right direction, i'm blessed. >> yeah. you like that more than my rendition of "growing pains'" theme song and the poster i had of you in my room. [laughter] i'm kidding. >> i love what you're saying because they connect. without that, i wouldn't be doing these movies about faith that i love. >> do you feel like gwen stefani and these other celebrities, they've reached big success. do you think that's why they wait to come out as christians? >> maybe. i don't know. i don't know, what do youfies think? >> well, i want to see your movie because i just love that you're bringing the faith back into christmas. >> and joy back into christmas. that's the biggest thing. a lot of people have lost their joy at christmas, and i want to amplify it. >> love it. now i can take my kids. >> and faith back into our culture. a scientist who knows how to

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>> this is the vote watched for in the house. the co stone pipeline, they have fought over it six years. it has passed the house. we didn't expect it wont. but this is interesting. 255 to 261 x. 31 democrats voted for the key stone pipeline. the flip side of this, in the other house of congress is the senate. we'll consider voting for this as well because we want to help out our candidate mary landrou who is in a senate run off in december. and in order to help her out because her pitch was based on energy. and they would vote for the co stone pipeline. there would be historic in a sense. and the house trying to get it on down the rod.

31 democrats crossing the line. and of course, we'll cover this and if it passes there, what would the president do. the vote you got it on outnumbered. >> a scientist participated in a space mission. he has a lot to learn about life. showing a probe landing on a comet for the first time. dr. matt taylor with images of scandily scad woman. who say it is reflects a culture that women have to break into. even the way he describes it raises questions. >> it is the sexiest mission. i said she was never easy.

>> excuse me. did i say. >> the racest shirt is peta shirt. >> does this detract from what was happening in the accomplishment? >> no. everyone is looking at pictures of kim kardashian's bare butt. >> they are cartoonish. >> it is like the mud slap on the truck drivers 18 wheeler and the eight line of the girl. >> and watching the live space feed. i love this sort of thing. i saw the guys from the european space agency counting down to the comet landing. why didn't they tell the dude to change his shirt. >> we all agree we don't care for the shirt. kurt came ron. when do we so it?

>> it is opening this woke week and take your family. >> saving christmas. run out and get it. starts "happening now". >> fox news alert. the house voted to approve the controversusial key stone pipeline. ndemocrats are now on board and the senate could take up the vote on tuesday. will president obama sign off on it? >> this is "happening now". >> understand what this project is, providing the ability of canada to pump their oil. the president weighing in on the the key stone pipeline debate. and republicans make a legislative move on a project they say will bring america jobs and secretary. and likely a show down. the president is set to announce