showing of the mom who gave birth to 19 puppies. i got tweets from people who want to adopt them. bill: the problem is they are in england. martha: we will see you in an hour. >> "outnumbered" starts next. >> this is "outnumbered." i am andrea tantaros. here with us today, sandra smith, harris faulkner, kennedy and our hashtag one lucky guy, tommy chong, with cheech and chong and now "dancing with the stars" star. you are outnumbered. >> i am used to being outnumbered. >> sander was asking "dancing with the stars" questions. >> you were amazing on there. >> thank you. >> how was that? >> it was incredible. not hard to do things that a

beautiful lady tells you to do. >> you are perfect for this show. >> you are great for fox television. >> what is your favorite dance? >> my favorite dance? the tango until we did the rum rumba. >> are going to show us "outnumbered" overtime? >> i knew my partner. >> she was there to support you day one. >> oh, yes. >> i like that new term. >> that is what professional dancers, women use. >> i look at whether or not you

still trust healthcare.gov. chief technology officer todd park. could not give or no answer when asked if the obamacare website is safe and secure. >> do you consider it safe and secure today? >> i my understanding, i would use it. >> do you think the website is secure today? do you advise the american people to use the website? >> despite all these, you still think it is. >> the best course of information about that is yes. >> i feel relieved, do you? a key official, using threads and resorted to tantrums for the

websites launch. despite healthcare.gov not being ready. from the number two months before the launch. deciding in january we would do no matter what the really cruel and uncaring remarks that have occurred since january when she threatened me a demotion or retirement if i didn't take this on. remember that healthcare.gov launch, $500 million they could not get people to sign-up and said just be patient. now we are a year later, almost a billion dollars for a website and he still can't tell us if the website is secure with the personal information. >> websites are so new. there is no guarantee in websites. to me it seems normal it would

be delayed, but my thing about the whole obamacare is it is better than bush's obamacare. he never had one. speak a lot of people say we should not have touched the health care system at all because of the launch of healthcare.gov. he couldn't even say whether or not it was secure. seems like get something done woman, why didn't she channel that? >> you are talking about why they want him on the hill and wife it is so important. he received the whistleblower e-mails. says look, this website is not

ready. asked if it is sure, he said no. it is a risk to go forward. i would ask first of all what were you thinking with that. >> when todd was their boss, he was the chief involved in all of this, it was up to him to brief the white house on this process and he has since distanced himself from many of the problems they had. the problem was they did not force stability. he essentially said it should be delayed, they went forward with it. there were major risks in doing so. they would have been delighted for delaying the launch of it. opponents would have said i told you so but this is some of your

most sacred information are putting on the websites. you are putting in their your most important health information. anything that is easy to hack. he looks almost exactly like lois lerner. >> even though the risk had been made clear. that is what they're asking todd park. where was the pressure coming from? it is not going to work. the risk of putting personal information out there. who was trying to push it through anyway? >> everybody. >> they wanted the perception it was successful and seamless. >> look at all of the recalls. everything is being recalled

because things are not working. that is with any industry. get it started. >> the white house still trying to downplay his role in creating obamacare after he was caught on camera many times you have seen it having to mislead what he calls stupid americans to make sure the law passed. the white house secretary josh earnest is criticizing the g.o.p. take a listen. >> some who do think this fans the flames of the political arguments because it is politically advantageous to do so. my suspicion is they do so because it is easier to talk about six and eight-year-old videos then to talk about how smoothly the opening of the

second enrollment has gone so far for the health care as a result of a formal cataract. it is inconvenient for people who oppose the law. there certainly welcomed to do do that. i don't think there is a particularly large audience. >> one republican lawmaker fac s this is a pattern. >> in the inner circle in the oval office with barack obama, nancy pelosi crafting a law, now that they are being exposed trying to do jeremiah wright. when we look at the law and what he said, they matchup. no distinction between the lies that were told. that is what is video was so powerful. >> how can he write this off and blame republicans for what

gruber said about how stupid they are and how the law was set up? how can he do this? >> he can do what he wants be ed it is going to be hard for him, did you know the university are now starting to pull their videos? the university of pennsylvania is where we first heard about the voter stupidity. they took down the video. now they are being forced to put it back up. this is take medications director has opened an investigation as to why these universities are taking these videos down of jonathan gruber. i find that fascinating. but if the school that hosted him has a problem with what he says and they are looking into it, what will they teach us? >> what i will say, he is going on all of these speaking engagements. i will say don't lie about it.

be forthcoming. if the president denies knowing jonathan gruber and josh earnest as well, people are going to go back and look for those connections because they know they quoted him. >> he is trying to downplay it for the g.o.p. who wants to play these videos six and eight years old, they are not six and eight years old to the american people because this is the first time i have been exposed to the work. >> it is just another attack on obamacare. it seems like benghazi all over again. >> it is an attack the american people for how stupid we are. i want to play a clip because jon stewart, who we all know and love has decided to take them to

task for this. let's get him to respond. >> they have complained about how the bill was sold and his involvement in that process, or. >> i don't know who he is. [laughter] >> can you ever not not disappoint us? >> so whether you like obamacare or not, you have to admit it is not good to lie and do not you know somebody when there is footage claiming you know them. >> med rummy said something about 47%. >> stay on topic. is it okay to lie and try to get away with it? >> it is politics, of course. >> i understand because i was

one of those people who couldn't get insurance for over a year because of pre-existing conditions. i was really frustrated and i'm one of those people who knew we needed a change. the problem with obamacare. my parents are democrats, and look at this stuff and even they are disgusted by it. they are at the age they can now take medicare. but if you look at the attacks, it is not political and it is not okay to play with people's basic health especially for people who really need it and the problem is they are not being served by the health care law. maybe there is something flawed with it. >> there is a law that it did not exist with the other administration. so we have a little bit. >> i totally agree with that. >> josh earnest tried to dismiss

this as this is old news. to your point, this isn't old news. this is what people suspected would have enough was happening behind the scenes and now we have it confirmed from a key advisor. >> he deserves to be asked an open-ended question, why do you think jonathan gruber said this administration preyed on the american people to pass the health care law? because otherwise it would not have passed, correct? >> you have to define what stupidity is. if you are opposing universal health care based on rumors and lies, that is stupid. let's define what part of the stupidity he is talking about. >> i would love to hear from him directly. >> wouldn't we albeit >> okay,

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u.s. ranked number nine back then. the lowest ranking in safety security in hong kong, i sent and finland with the top ranks 31st after spain and france. do you feel less free now at 76 years old then you did when you were in your 30s or 40s? why are we less free now than five years ago? >> the world trade center terrorist attack changed everything. before the terrorist attacks you could ride in the cockpit. >> maybe you could, but he. >> you could talk with them and they would come out and sit with you, and now they have armed guards keeping you from doinghi. you go to the airport and get searched with shoes off, the whole thing.

>> do you tie our lack or less freedoms to what has happened in the last 4-6 years under president obama? we have seen surveillance creep up to an alarming rate right now. james rosen' was looked at by te administration for doing his job as a reporter. anything you see change in? >> i think it has gotten worse. edward snowden has showed us how much freedoms we have lost. >> what would you tell the president? >> i would tell him he is doing as good a job as he can do. on this particular issue it is tough to second guess. they know more than we do,

national security advisors. we just get third hand information. we don't know what threats or anything else. >> maybe that is the problem, they know too much. it doesn't necessarily make us safe. let's talk about economic freedom. limited by things like regulations. when you don't have economic mobility, you are naturally less free. >> they come here to start the businesses. the family businesses pride and joy, that has tried significantly because of regulations and added cost including obamacare for many of these companies. part of the scoring involves

tolerance of immigration which is obviously a hot topic right now waiting to see what happens next. you didn't become legalized citizen until the late 80s. >> reagan had an amnesty program that they would die if he had it today. issuing an amnesty program, and i was one of the recipients. i cashed in on that. >> where are we with the tolerance of immigration? >> we are being forced into the truth. this whole world is full of immigrants, everybody is an immigrant when you think about it. they offer the freedoms that we

are being curtailed. compared to everywhere else economically the united states is still the mecca. >> what is your take on immigration out in california? >> it depends on who you talk to. they think it should be more liberal. you talk to the republicans, they think it should be more strict. >> i do you think this immigration came up? it sounds like you benefited a lot. >> not just me, but everybody in this room. we all benefit from it from being an american. every time i came down here i had to do it illegally. >> that is why we need a fence on the border. >> put people to work.

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we sure have come quite a long ways since then. the decriminalization goes into effect today instead of making arrests, city cops will just to get anyone found in possession of less than 25 grams of pot. showing how much it would actually look like. marijuana is legal for recreation use in four states. chong shaking his head. oregon, washington state, colorado, district of colombia be at the transition has not been without some problems including drunk driving. more access for kids and marijuana related incidents at the school. emergency room visits after people ate food infused with marijuana. transportation of pot and to neighboring states and public smoking. going mainstream with bob marley family launching a new brand on

the today show no less marketed by the same agency that branded starbucks. it looks like the progression and availability of marijuana is picking up a rapid pace in this country, something you have made it very public you are a fan of. >> i am an example of the good parts of marijuana. i am the oldest person to be on "dancing with the stars" and to the semifinals. >> and you think pot for that? >> absolutely. you know how we have medical marijuana? all marijuana use his medical if you think about it. it is medical for this reason. we have medical and we have recreational be at recreation is a medical term used during the war.

rest and recreation. doctors will tell you you need more rest, you need more recreation. so think about it. >> i support legalization may be for different reasons. your basic right. so you use cannabis. i will tell you why to use cannabis. my people were hemp farmers in romania. they have their farm take away from them by the commies. >> what we're seeing here is the cell phone, educating us on marijuana because up until we had the cell phone, we had people putting out lies about

marijuana, going to the hospital, the emergency rooms and people dying. >> do you think it is a lot stronger? >> it hasn't changed. it is still the same plant. has become more powerful? you smoke mexican weed, people say this a lot stronger now than it was back in the days. >it is the same plant. you grow rice with chemically treated fertilizer, you will get more with the organic treatment. >> this is attracting a lot of other people and one article said people missed out on

facebook, they missed out on starbucks, now they will try to make money on this green rush. the ceo of a big marijuana product company, we're talking about bob marley. do you have a stake in one of these? >> i had been in a movie, nice dreams. because of the topic itself. marijuana as a business kept northern california through the recession kept them alive. no one lost their car or their jobs because of the marijuana industry. >> he was writing some of the universities, but this president has been awful. >> they still are. this president has been

hypocritical. but what president hasn't? >> we might have to have you back but what about this thing sandra mentioned? getting their hands on this, coming into their teenage years and how dangerous that becomes. >> drunk driving has killed more people than anything. how many people have been killed with marijuana? >> do you think it will happen more often? >> i will tell you why. a lot of people are getting high on marijuana when they worked. it is a lot cheaper and a lot healthier than alcohol. >> new york city, caught with up to 25 grams, about 60 joints. the expert is telling me i am

wrong or something. nearly a ticket. >> it is still a racist law. it is still a racist law. >> one vote short. the measure to get the keystone pipeline built failed in the senate but they plan to make the pipeline and the jobs that come with it a reality when they control the senate a few weeks from now. big changes to children's classic. what will be different in the new production of peter pan with concern words could be considered third?

>> welcome back to "outnumbered." when nbc errors next month may

notice some can just one of the classic songs. number for peter pan and tigerlily with the brave noble redskin and of course made up native american, but no more. it now has a new name, true blood brothers replaced nonsense words with nursery rhymes. says they are taking out things that were silly and offensive today. are you offended by that song, tommy? >> i can be. >> do you think it is necessary? >> i'm a great believer washington redskins should change their name. i think it is a very offense of maine the redskins. it did not mean the color of their skin. the redskins store clement bloody, the blood skin.

they were bloody red. it wasn't because the native indians looked red, because they were brown. i think that is a good step ahead. do you remember that? those restaurants went, i think that is a good thing. >> too much pc running rampant? >> don't know that you'll find so much time to be outraged about every single thing. i don't know where the outrage was, it is like the washington redskins, it is more white liberals upset about this than everybody else. if they want to change it, i am all for it. it is their decision like the redskins position. keep it consistent. maybe it is time. if there are genuine communities

offended, i would not want anybody to be offended, but it is the decision of nbc they want to do that. it is a tradition that offends people, get rid of it. but i don't feel that passionately about this one. >> i am sure you could look back over books and music, songs from your childhood and find plenty of offensive things if you wanted to. >> i like what tommy started with. said i could. anything could potentially offend you. i think you have to pick your battles, find out what is important to you. there are some 300 plus organizations and growing since the name change thing came about. it has changed about since the first group took exception to it tonight has become more of a communitywide type thing. i am raising the kids, i'm not

going to be revisionist about it. if there are certain things thei don't want them to listen to come there are present-day lyrics i would like to skip that are far more offensive than some of the stuff in the past. >> heaven to think this is a choice nbc is making because it affects their bottom dollar. if that is the case, find, change them, death. i don't have a problem with that, but i do have a problem with everybody being so offended by every little thing. i read books to my daughter where i could find reason to be offended. why is the mom in the kitchen making dinner? why is every mom dead in disney movies? why do they live in a shoe? >> it is stereotyping women as

shoe lovers, and we know that is true. >> maybe they wouldn't be offended if everybody was stoned all the time. >> how about ring around the rosie? if you have the history of ring around the rosie, they're talking about dead people. it was to keep the smell away. >> does that offend you? >> not at all. it is interesting. words and labels can offend. teach your kids something, teach proper grammar. >> i want to keep talking, but that is not going to happen. record snowfall slamming the second straight day, some participated to get 6 feet of the white stuff by this afternoon. do you know the street value of

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>> more "outnumbered" just a moment but first something else we cannot wait for. what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> we are waiting the timing of the discussion with president obama on immigration. is the president going to announce actions that could change the legal status of 5 million illegal immigrants? most of the united states suffering under a freeze. under five to 6 feet of snow. and a close eye on the market, the dow down slightly after new record high yesterday for the dow and s&p. new housing data for the

economy. we expect that this afternoon. >> little known fact, can sing as well as he handles it. >> contrary to popular belief, it may not be kids that hold back high achieving women, but the husband. the women failed because they let the husband's career take precedence over their own. while younger men were more than their older peers, half of the youngest men still think their career is more important than two-thirds assuming their wives will do the majority of child care. you have had a very busy career, and actor, comedian, activist, has your career taken precedence

over your work? >> my career was because of my wife. she is my advisor. my first wife, i was married twice, i first wife, her career helped my career. >> from what you see in your field in hollywood and such, is not the norm? >> i don't think there is a norm in hollywood. >> somebody has got to commit themselves to more even if they hold more at home. >> people who grew up in traditional homes, they feel the more nurturing parent is going to take charge and do that. women's brains change when they

have babies. they are able to multitask and able to take care of kids and a remember school functions and what to put in lunches and all of that. there is a new crop of dad's who are so hands-on these nontraditional circumstances are able to come to the floor so women are able to have part-time work, work for a few years and take time off, that is the future of employment, solving some of these problems. >> i probably have a less kind way of saying it, i think men are trainable. so we have a very strong partnership but even my husband will say i kind of had to get into the lane and go down the road. >> it is a partnership.

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