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place can you go tonight. so if you're not interested in your money, you're not interested in your country's future, by all means watch tupperware commercials on another station. but if you are, well, i'll see you tonight. hello, everyone. i'm greg gutfeld, along with eric bolling, kimberly guifoyle, bob beck el and andrea tantaros and we're "the five." >> they ignore the fact that 11 previous presidents have done exactly the same thing. >> the president has great
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authority in the law to take these actions and great precedent of so many presidents. we have the business communities, the bibles and we have the badges, law enforcement saying let's do this right. >> please. this isn't about what's right, it's about power. democrats would grant a bag of che cheetohs amnesty if it won them an election. the media loves executive action when it's their guy. we know immigration helps america, good, honest people, please come. the problem, saying stay to millions without closing the doors after leads to repeat business. who knows, maybe if we enforced our laws, mexico might ask why their citizens are fleeing.
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if i was their president, i'd wonder why i only see my citizens from behind. so hooray for dreamers but what of the doers, those legal immigrants who stood in line, filled out papers, wrote checked. so who speaks for those people? not obama. he only acts on two things, a phony crisis when he claims something's broken and a real crisis when he inevitably breaks something. no wonder he doesn't mind being called emperor. >> we've heard this kind of rhetoric about lawlessness from the house republicans, i know the most recent statements where the president was referred to emperor obama. >> he wears it with a badge of honor maybe because it's all he's wearing, america. emperor without clothes.
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>> nobody could tell him? >> the audience understood the joke. >> you know what, forget it. this segment's over. >> you were acting it out? >> you know, the emperor has no clothes. don't tell the emperor -- >> i think that's a crazy statement. >> i played that role in a play once. >> that wasn't a play. that was a weekend at somebody's house. >> that was someone's worst nightmare. >> weekend at beckel's been. >> dana, you were saying what a redick also a comment. >> no, i said a crazy comment. is that the same thing? it may be. when you're standing at the podium, maybe that was supposed to be a flip comment. maybe they don't take themselves that seriously. i would never have said that! i'm speechless. >> you are. and that is rare. >> which is not good because i'm supposed to be on a tv show. >> yeah, you're paid to talk so
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you're fired. >> i feel like they are on craze oo -- crazy town today. >> what makes you think president obama can grant amnesty to 5 million people? and i'm holds the constitution. it's article 2 section 1, executive power shall be vested in the president of the united states of america. that's the extent at which president obama is now using the constitution to say he can do this. i don't see where it says he can change a law, where he can legislate, he can unilaterally say i want 5 million people to be legal, even though they're already broken the law. what if he decides 20 million? why stop at five? >> all immigration is funded by fees, because republicans are
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specifically getting out front -- >> just show me where -- >> he has the right to pardon anybody. anybody. >> pardon. so he's going to have a blanket pardoning. now we're going to call it what it is. it's pardoning 5 million people. >> yesterday you all came back with a very weak response about the republicans saying reagan and bush did not do this. when were talking about 11 different presidents in a row. what bush did and what reagan did was to say we missed it, the congress missed it -- >> but they were working with congress. >> what obama did was in the same vein was to take these people and put them in because the congress of the united states is dysfunctional, of course it's in the hands of republicans, that's an oxymoron. >> oh, my god. >> who was in charge in the
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beginning when we got obamacare? >> passed it, passed it, passed it, republicans refused to pass it. >> president obama is a lone wolf litigator. >> at certain points you have to say when you're trying to work with congress, you look at this congress, you can't work with them, that manse you have to try everything within the law to go around them. >> as the president of the united states, why is he doing this? what's the reason behind this? >> because he's got the right to do it. >> but is it supported by the will. american people? is he listening to the voters, the taxpayers? >> if you ask the american people yesterday, the poll said 48% of the people opposed executive action. if you put on that poll that these people would stay who have got kids who are here, who are on the dream group or kids who were born here, i think that the support would go way, way up.
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the underlying poll numbers here said that people support the idea of immigration. >> yeah, of course. but that's not immigration, that's granting amnesty to people who came here illegally. >> your rap on the monologue said what about the poor people -- these people get behind them. >> no, they don't. because they're not being deported. they're absolutely not being deported now. >> they will not getting to citizens before the others. >> my wife had to do all of this stuff before she came to the united states, had to do it all. and marry me. >> somebody is granting them the right to stay in this country. >> you have to call it pardon because if you say amnesty, he's breaking the law. >> why is he breaking the law? >> then why wasn't reagan breaking the law? >> he was. doesn't make it right now. >> as long as you admitted those reagan and bush -- >> we don't admit that.
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you're not listening to us. i don't know why i'm not agreeing with them. >> i want to throw it to the thought of some angry conservatives and i want to catch your take on what republicans should do next. let's roll this tape, please. >> do it. >> he has to remember who he works for. it looks more like a dictatorship when the president is making unilateral decisions for the american people. >> we are unfortunately witnessing a constitutional crisis. >> it's incumbent on republicans in congress to use every single constitutional tool we have to defend the rule of law, to rein in the president so that the president does not become an unaccountable monarch. >> this president went from once talking about the audacity of hope to the audacity -- >> i might be an outlier on this
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one but i think the republicans are really boxed in. >> really? >> i do. i don't think we'll have the answer to the constitutional question for years. i prt the president has the prosecutorial discretion to do what he's doing. they'll figure out a way, they're lawyers. by the time it gets to the court, who is going to be the person that is going to stand up and say we're going to take away this from the 5 million people. >> that's what he's counting on. >> when president obama came back the day after the election he said the that washington must work together. i agree, it's a strange way to react when your first action is to do something that is absolutely poisoning the well to get a lot of other good things done. what i do think that republicans will do is to keep their heads, there's a lot of other legislation that needs to get done dpr a jobs perspective, jobs, jobs, jobs.
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i don't understand why the administration is going ahead and just doing the 12 million. once you do 5, why not do 12? maybe they'll figure out a way to do an end run around that. i do think that the republicans -- you cannot stop the president from doing this. >> i was curious about -- i forget the guy's name who do that, the czar was obamacare. anyway, the first 42 members of congress that were invited down to the white house when obama was elected with republicans and he wanted to work with them. for six years they did nothing. >> oh, baloney. bob, that's -- >> you're in a parallel universe. >> u a lot moyou're a lot more than that. >> he invited them down to work with him. >> and gave them the you know what when they got there. >> it doesn't matter what you .
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it matters what gets legislated. >> come on, you are smarter and more thoughtful and more well aware than that. >> wait a second, i believe firmly that the president of the united states made an of the to everybody that watched -- most presidents get a second term. it's very rare that they don't. but in the mid-term elections, that answer, the central lesson of that mid term is not washington must work together, it was stop president obama from doing things that we do not -- >> come on! >> it's just like banging your head against the wall. the reason you can't work with people is because they have this notion that president obama was
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stymied -- president obama absolutely could have changed the way that washington worked. he could have done it. he was so popular and he chose not to. >> it's not in his dna. this whole thing is going the whole way, it's supposed to -- >> you're baffling. baffling bob beckel. >> i want to ask kimberly. he's emptied the basket of a certain -- of a group. what have we done to make sure that doesn't get rebuilt? >> nothing. >> no, nothing because our borders aren't going to be -- it's just going to be rinse and repeat. it's rewarding people who are breaking the law. this is not the right way to do it. you have to respect the laws of this country. >> what would you do with the 5 million people? >> there's a better way to do it than the president with the stroke of a pen saying i'm going
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to put in some kind of phony amnesty. >> answer my question. take the cue like the deli line. >> no r, i would make sure we don't have this problem, repetitive, like a cron beingiliness. we need to make sure that it was shut down and so i'm telling you this is not the time or the approach, period. >> maybe you cou. >> that's a very interesting point. could you do that, though? >> i don't know. i just thought of it now. >> i mean, if you were an emr r
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the rnc is out with a devastating new ad. >> with respect to the notion that i can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case. >> anybody who tells you that it's going to be easier, that i can wave a magic wand and make it happen has not been paying attention to how this city works. >> i wish some wish i could just bypass congress and change the law myself, but that's not how democracy works. >> what i'm going to be laying out are some things i can do with my lawful authority as president. >> does the president still stand by what he said last year when he said, "i am not the emperor of the united states, my job is to execute laws that are
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pass passed"? does that still hold? >> absolutely. >> they're going to go nuts because they're going to see it outside the authority of the president. it's going to be a very dangerous situation. you're going to see -- hopefully not but could you see instances of in,anarchy, you could see violence. >> one thing is for sure, with respect to the president, he has a certain freedom with how he acts and then he'll mind erase it, mind eraser, and something he was aghast about is perfectly okay. >> we talked about whether he has the power to do it, the right to do it. i still can't find it in here,
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they're going to have to figure out a way to make it appear in here. he for years has said -- >> he'll write it in. >> i'm not allowed to do this, i can't do this, i'm not the emperor. but then he's doing it. can i be a little conspiracy theorist for a minute? he's going to do it because he promised his base it would get done. why now? what's coming down the pike very soon, within hours? >>. >> the latin grammys? >> no. >> good answer. >> he does this and something happens in ferguson, everyone goes, uh-oh, forget the amnesty thing, let's see what's going on in ferguson. and then we go did he just slip amnesty in without thinking about it too much? i don't know. maybe i'm crazy. >> i think you might be a little crazy. i think amnesty had more to do
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with the latin grammys than anything else. >> what are the latin grammys? >> they're elderly women that take care of their grammys. did he predict there was going to be this kind of problem after 8 -- >> i don't think that was a particularly wise thing to say. we live in an era where patriotsism is mocked by their beliefs. we champion every identity but the american one. so if we have a lot of new people coming here whacks do we tell them about america? what is the american identity? i would feel more comfortable about anyone coming here if we
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actually championed our own selves. president obama talks about how great america is when we're welcoming the illegal immigrants into this country, but he doesn't really talk about patriotism about us, about this country, which i find problematic. >> i think the biggest problem for president obama is the fact that he for so long, for many years emphatically said he did not have the power or the right to do what he is actually doing. and if i were in the immediate. >> that was quite -- very good, i have to say. and i think it's right. when you do this sort of thing and you say it over and over and a art. >> but they don't really need an explanation because the mainstream media doesn't require them to have pun take, for
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example, dreamers, which reason about but they were called dreamers. so if you illegal immigrate, that's dreaming. but i don't think tom was dreaming when he went into mexico. >> when she gets on the street, he ought to say bilingual education will stop after two years. >> he'll never say that. >> the republicans can seasoned president obama all sorts of religious that we'll have to make a decision on. tax reform, yrgs policy and make him make a decision on whether or not to veto it or not. >> governor christie, harkening to 2016, this will come back on them. next, he's hollywood's most infamous hot head. >> the blond? i do want to press charges
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against her. she assaulted my wife yesterday. >> now alec baldwin is seeking to soft i don't know his image by becoming a love counselor in new york city. and eric's got the tape next. ♪ always something there to remind me ♪
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welcome back. time for the very fastest seven minutes on television. three vexing stories, seven vigorous minutes, one vivacious host. >> can we retire this? >> no. >> can you ban it? >> and he vowed never to get in front of a camera again after this mess, remember? >> you're the one who almost hit my wife in the face -- i asked you a question, i asked you a question. okay, you get the [ bleep ] out
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of here. >> it appears baldwin reneged on that promise. he's giving relationship advice. >> you may not know this but i am an internationally recognized relationshipexpert. if you look him right in the eye and say "i love you more than anything" every day, he will be a slave the rest of your life. >> what's your sign? >> i'm a taurus. >> we're the same, i'm an aries. . >> he does say one thing i think would work, "i love you more than anything," i agree. >> pointing it out that he is that good at this makes us look kind of stupid because this is the point of the joke. >> is it? >> he's a relationship expert,
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it's alec baldwin. that's the joke. >> i like it. i thought that's why we were doing this. >> is that what we're doing? >> i got it. >> i thought it was funny. >> i'd take advice from him. >> you need some relationship advice. >> i know. >> bob doesn't believe in relationships. >> by the way, relationship experts are terrible. why shouldn't he be one? all those matchmakers on tv are single. >> you know it's true. >> we all know russians hate to lose. think vad putin. check this kid off put after losing a ping-pong match in russia, dimitri -- watch. here it is. he loses right here. he loses. he shakes the hand of the opponent and watch what happens right now. after that, boom! he hits the umpire, threw the umpire off his chair. watch the umpire, much bigger
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than him. >> oh. >> amazing. >> amazing? that's not very sportsman-like. >> i'd have gotten up and jammed his paddle down his throat. that would have given him some thoughts. >> it's the most exciting thing that ever happened in ping-pong. it's like we don't call football thud thud or hockey whack whack or golf snore, it's like ping-pong. it sounds just like what it is. >> i like it. >> and did you like that? >> no, i hate to see people get angry. i don't like violence of any kind. >> that's not true. >> that's all i got. i mean, ping-pong's fun. >> we're going to have to dig deeper into the video library for the "fastest 7." >> happy birthday wishes go out to vice president joe biden.
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in honor of the veep's b-day, we put together a stroll down memory lane. listen, try not to get to emotion. >> three-letter word, jobs, j s j-o-b j-o-b-s. >> thank you, dr. pepper, thank you, chancellor or dr. paper. >> god rest her soul. your mom is still alive. it's your dad passed. god bless her soul. >> i promise you, the president has a big stick. i promise you. >> my favorite ever. it should lead bartlett's, the new bartlett's quotation book, the best. >> the best birthday gift we can give him is to impeach president obama so he gets to be president for a year or two. >> he may get a few years. he's going to run, right? >> he's very personable, everybody likes him in d.c., he's able to work with both
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side, he has an honest approach. he's adorable. >> he got elected from the senate, he wasn't old enough to be elected to the senate so he couldn't be sworn. >> just one of the world's terrific guys. yeah, he makes gaffes like that. >> if there was a democrat that you said who would you want to have a drink with, spend the night hangs out with, that's the one. >> definitely. >> i don't think he drinks. >> oh, yeah, he drinks. >> and he swims naked. >> only o-- oh, well, there you go. >> is that true? >> you told me you did. >> can me make this the fastest
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6? we're about two and a half hours away from president obama's executive announcement on immigration. we're going to check in with ed henry. he was live with tonight's controversial address. stick around. ♪ ♪
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tonight is the night president obama will unveil his plan to overhaul our country's immigration system with the use of executive action. henry is here to tell us what he's going to say. ed, did you get a special preview or certainly? >> they're giving us little tidbits here and there. i think a lot of what you've been talking about is the central thrust of this, expanding the number of illegal immigrants, who can get some temporary legal status in the country. i think one of the maybe surprises is that the president is going to also try to talk about executive action he's taking on bored are security.
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republicans are going to be skeptical of that saying he's had six years to get more serious about securing the border. i think it's about trying to reach out to the gop and saying i'm taking this action you're not happy about but part of this is about securing the borders and doing more come january. i think it will be beyond keeping folks here in this country, it's also going to be about talking border security as well. that's clearly a political move to try to get some republican support. >> how do they answer their biggest vulnerability that the president has said for so many years that he does not have the power to do this? >> part of what they claim is when the president said "i'm not emperor" was the fact that he could stop all deportations, or some have said why don't you take the senate bill and throw
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it into an executive order. i've been on the road with him and protesters were just saying do something, anything, takes executive action and he kept saying i'm not an emperor, i can't do that. that's a flip now what he's doing tonight and that's a political problem for him. >> they made a pretty compelling argument that they're spending more money on borders. are they much on the defensive on bored are security since they built hundreds and hundreds of miles for the fence and the budget has gone up 400% for border patrol? >> i think the bottom line for both parties is it's not been a short and of fund going to the border, it hasn't been a shortage of let's throw money at the problem but a think a vast majority of our audience doesn't believe that the money has been necessarily well spent over the years because we still see people getting over the border, regardless of how many miles are built or not built, regardless
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of how many agents we hire, we still have a crisis at the border. that is a challenge for the president as he makes this case. >> i threw a theory out here, dana told me i was on the crazy town express. why tonight? why november 20th? >> i think a very simple answer, which is that there were some advisers urging the president wait until december. my sense is he decided in the end from talking to his advisers that republicans are going to criticize this whether he waits a month or not. time to just get it out there, pieces of it have already leaked out and he's been playing a lot of defense on this. he finally wants to try, under line the world try, to go on offense. it may back fire on him but he wants to try to define this on his own. >> good luck to you. >> i'm ready. >> so what happens? do they get a temporary stay in
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do they go to the back of the line, as bob says, do they get benefits? what do we know happens next after they're allowed to stay? >> what we know for some of the people who have to stay is they're going to have to go through a lot of paperwork. my understanding is some of that is not going to be processed for a few months. so this is not something that's going to happen tomorrow. they hope people start coming out of the shadows over the next few months and a lot of the illegal immigrants who are not paying taxes right now will start paying into the system. one of the parts of the process is the folks who will get temporary status, we believe it will be for about three years. this is not long term, it's not forever, but then they would have to go to the back of the line, pay the taxes you're talking about. also important, this would get a social security number and again start paying into the system, which is something these illegal immigrants are not doing. and in terms of whether they get health care benefits or something like that, they will not until they become citizens. they're not becoming citizens in
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the short term. do they actually have path to citizenship? >> if they pay into social security, they would get social security? >> they would get it if they pay into it. they're not paying into medicare but if they get sick, they go to the emergency room and you and i pay for it anyway. >> exactly. they're not fooling anybody. >> executive action, what's giving him the right to do it? >> well, his lawyers claim privately, the white house attorneys do, that the president is merely sort of instructing some of his cabinet secretaries to take existing law and apply it a bit differently and refocus the priorities, if you will. for example, down at the border, on the border security piece i talked about, try to kind of repurpose the way border patrol agents are supposed to do their job. whether that works or not or whether it's just bureaucratic nonsense, we'll find out in the weeks and months ahead. republicans are not buying that
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argument and they're saying this is rewriting the laws, not just reinterpreting things. that's why i think you're going to see a ferocious response on capitol hill saying they're going to try to defund all of this. >> i wanted to ask you one more question, ed, but maybe i'll save it for a private e-mail. how do you know if someone is really your true end like ed henry is our true friend here at "the five." stay tuned because bob has the answer coming up. >> you got to love bob. ♪ ♪
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♪ i got friends in low places >> now there's a song. a lot of people have a lot of friends on facebook, but can social media friends really be considered true ones? new studies reveal what determines a true friendship, at least eight phone calls and two meetings a month. by contrast most speak to only one out of nine of their facebook friends on a regular basis. i contend the whole social media thing is not about friendships, it's about an easy way to talk. what do you think, gary? >> i can only consider someone a friend if i spoke to them eight times on the phone and two e-mails? >> two meetings. >> two meetings? we don't have a lot of friends, do we.
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i engage on facebook and twitter -- >> how many do you meet? >> i can't say. >> what do you think? >> do you know what i think a true friend is, bob? >> who? >> somebody who sees her friend lose his pants in the airport and doesn't tell anybody. >> and tell the world. >> no, i didn't tell anybody. he told the world. >> somebody who will take the shots and put them in his back pocket. greg, what's friendship to you or that's a foreign concept in. >> the guy who did this study obviously has no friend. i have a theory friends are genetically similar. i find out i'm a lot like the friends i like. which says friendship is an exercise in self-love. when you actually find somebody that you like, there's no hormones and there's no genetic component like you're related to them. so friendship is actually more
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valuable than love. >> you thought a lot about that. >> i do. >> i was ripped out of maryland to come here for to months to do this show and now it turns out to be which we are delight about. this town, new york, is a tough place to learn to make friends. it is a very lonely place. i made friends at fox. but it is difficult to make new friends in this town. >> oh. >> but your friends -- i have long-term friends back in maryland who i rarely see because i'm here all the time. >> if you don't drink in new york -- >> you're in trouble, right? >> imagine if you move to new york, you're young, like a 30-year-old, i don't know, bachelor. you come here and you don't drink. >> you think people would invite me to their parties? about it. they would invite me afterwards. this town is funny that way.
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>> you get invited to stuff. you go to dana's house. >> i've been your partner. >> none of us have been to her apartment. get in the back of the dreamer's line. >> that's a whole lot of dreaming. >>. >> how many, out of curiosity? >> none. >> andrea was there. >> anybody else back there? >> lost her sarong there. >> you can invite us to the house you bought. >> bob, you're losing. >> i see. you're probably right. are we ready to get out of here now? because my friends up in the control booth who do -- bleep me.
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time for one more thing. eric? >> okay. i just tweeted @b back seat williams. air ball on jonathan gruber. if you want nbc to start covering a story important to
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america, twet >> at tweet @bwilliams. this is a big story, brian williams. cover the big story. right? >> interesting. >> yeah. we'll find out if it makes the nightly news tonight. >> i don't think he is persuaded by twitter. >> maybe. let's try. >> okay. all right. well, nbc "today" show had jay leno on, who you know i love. this is a great thing that he was doing for a soldier and his corporal. on patrol in afghanistan when a suicide bomber exploded nearby and severely injured. many surgeries, shrapnel, et cetera, and traumatic brain injury. he is going on this ride with jay leno. super cool carement and take a listen to this. >> what did you think? >> that was awesome. >> it was a lot of fun, wasn't it. >> yeah.
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i wouldn't mind having one of these. >> it's yours. >> really? >> it's yours. >> oh, man. >> awesome. thank you thank you, man. america loves you. thank you, buddy. >> we need a million more of jay leno. >> this is a better version of oprah. remember she would give away cars. >> jay leno, we love you. you're amazing. >> i like to drink. i make no secret. but i don't like public drunks. i don't like people outside who act like idiots, drunk or stoned. santacon. if you were walking around the city wasted, urinating, vomiting and fighting, you would be arrested. and somehow you put on a santa suit and you're excused. bars are boycotting santacon.
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i urge everyone to put up a sign and say no. santacon is for charity. it doesn't excuse bad behavior. just give the money to the charity and don't follow these -- >> don't drink it all. >> the guy was so drunk and got in my face. >> they are so disgusting. >> this is a war on christmas. >> i'm all for the charity. give the money and don't be a jerk. >> weren't you a mall santa claus? >> mall santa claus. >> go ahead. >> dana? >> okay. i'm going to use something of greg's. ban phrase. do we have it? greg's word ban. >> what is going on here? today's word is ping. not as in ping pong. you know in an e-mail where
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someone says i'll ping you later. the people who don't turn off their phone in a doctor's office. that bothers me. i borrowed your one more idea. ping. hate it. >> i want to talk about this 800,000 people who were allowed in in this testimony rather a amnesty by president obama. carlos martinez, who enrolled in the university of arizona. graduated with a bachelor of science, minors in computer science. graduated first in his class. and he has received job offers virtually at every high-tech firm in the country. rina diaz graduate with an a bachelor's in sociology. 11,000 students in chicago schools that sign up for rotc,
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10% are undocumented people who are here in the country. they are patriotic people. they deserve to be here. great contribution. >> that's it. special report is next. i think. i hope. >> lots of tweets coming. going to the people about going it alone. president obama prepares to explain to the nation why he is side-stepping congress on immigration reform. this is "special report." good evening. bret baier is on assignment. we will hear from him shortly. first, we are two hours away from president obama's upcoming use on executive authority. to legalize illegal immigrants. we have fox team coverage at the capital looking at one of the key arguments democrats are making for the president's bold move. john rockets in

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