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kelly we'll be with you all night long. >> breaking tonight an increasingly ugly scene in ferguson, missouri. violence breaking out after a grand jury decides it will not indict police officer darrin wilson for the shooting death of 18-year-old michael brown. the officer is white and the 18-year-old was black. welcome to a live midnight edition of "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. over the past few hours we have witnessed disturbing scenes on the straits of missouri. the crews are witnessing shots being fired and windows being smashed and stores being looted. a police car torched. look at that. smoke deployed in an attempt to break up the crowds. even a fox gnaws camera smashed -- fox news camera smashed to the ground. and now the anger is
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spreading. from coast to coast we are seeing angry crowds gathering. in new york city protesters in time square chanting "we are doing this for mike brown." one man in the mix dragged out of the crowd bloody. large crowds marching through the streets of philadelphia. it is hours after president obama acknowledges emotions are running high while also appealing for calm. and the moment he says that is the very moment violence really starts to erupt in ferguson. watch this. there are issues in which the law too often feels as if it is being applied in a discriminatory fashion. i don't think that's the norm. i don't think that's true for the majority of communities or the vast majority of law enforcement officials. but these are real issues. 1k3 we have to lift them up and not deny them or try to clamp them down, but what we
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need to do is understand them and figure out how do way make more progress. that can be done. that won't be done by throwing bottles. that won't be done by smashing car windows. that won't be done by using this as an excuse to vandalize property. and it certainly won't be done by hurting anybody. so to those in ferguson there are ways of channeling your concerns constructively and there are ways of channeling your concerns destructively. >> it is unbelievable. is it not? >> steve reports from ferguson, missouri where you say there is steadily gunfire near your location. >> more than a under h shots fired as three to four buildings have gone up in flames. tremendous smoke all the way around. it has cleared out most of the demonstrators.
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24 is the first time we have seen the tactile assault vehicles go in. the heavy forces are now beginning and we have seen the foot patrol and the riot police trying to pull back the smoke. and now the heavier armor is going in there. it is probably to try and shutdown the gunfire that has been going on for the past 45 minutes, megyn. >> earlier you reported that somebody shot a gun up in the air, but not at anybody. do we have reason to believe these guns are being fired at anybody? >> we have no official reports of casualties. but the amount of the gunfire, the way it was fired doesn't seem like celebratory gunfire. it seems like there were shots and shots returned. it has been steady from several is directions and more than a hundred shots fired. so there is a lot of gunfire down the street. secondly the presence of these tactile units with the heavy armor makes me believe they
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will try and get to the root of that problem which is a half mile down the road in ferguson. they have been protecting the firefighters from looters and from attackers and now they will try and get to the source it seems to me of the gunfire, megqn. >> we can see the firefighters show up and the police officers with the gas masks on, and we can see you lacking one, steve, are you breathing in smoke right now? is it teargas? >> it is some gas, but i think it is mainly from the fires. we have pretty much four independent buildings and here is more fire engines arriving and they are certainly needed as this is a complete cloud here. this street is entirely going up in flames. we have seen earlier looting of cell phone stores, electricker stores and a mcdonalds. people smashed the window and a big crowd would ride through. that deteriorated to buildings being set on fire and after
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that it de deteriorated to gunshots. we have seen an escalation on the part of lawen -- law enforcement. rye rete police are moving out on to the road and now riot police are marching forward. oh boy. >> i don't mean this in a judgmental way, but what has taken so long? they held back for awhile. we saw when the riots took place a few months ago they were ultimately several days in and instructed to stand back. do you think that's why we saw fires actually get to this level? with that much police and fire presence? >> i have to say a lot about the way this has been organized as an amateur, completely puzzles me why this road which was obviously the scene of major protests in august was not blocked off to traffic, vehicle traffic and foot traffic. that's baffling. why guns have been firing for 40 minutes is baffling. we have seen a step by step escalation.
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in three months of preparation by the protesters and by lawen rs to meant we are not seeing a lot of improvement here. it is a situation that initially is far worse than what we saw in august. we are seeing buildings going up in flames and we are hearing gunshots. that is not what we saw in august. we saw rocks and bottles and angry chapts. chants. this is something different now, megyn. >> who is on will scene? did the protesters disburse after the police threw the teargas are on smoke bombs, whatever they were? >> the teargas and the smoke and the fires have created an atmosphere. in addition to the cold where no one wants to be. you cannot see a protestor or a demonstrator out on the street at all, but we can still hear gunshots in the distance. 1k3 it looks like what we are going to see is the march forward to try and find the source and try to clear it out. >> and now it is the aftermath. we will continue to check in with you, steve, as this
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situation does not look good. we are hearing disturbing reports about the protest happening in other parts of the country including here in time square which we are looking to confirm and we will bring to you if we have an update. we will keep the pictures on the board while we bring in trial attorney and nationally syndicated radio host who is live in ferguson. richard, let me start with you as you are live in ferguson and ask you for your reaction. let's start with the most recent news which is the aftermath to the grand jury's decision and the scenes right now in ferguson, missouri. >> listen, things are happening, megyn. there is no question that this situation stabilized quickly. destabilized quickly. there are a lot of people angry that the grand jury did not come down with an indictment tonight. and no matter what sign you are on, at the end of the day there are mixed stories here. there are two sides of the story that should have been heard by a jury.
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we can't speak to that. >> they were. both sides were heard. i am talking about there should have been an official jury trial. there is different evidence and different stories and it could have went to a real jury and had a full trial. that's neither here nor there, megyn. the mood here is heavy and while there was effort for peaceful protests it has gotten out of control. >> the reason that the anger has gotten out of control many would say is because the fires have been stoked by people who refuse to trust in the system. the grand jury system which is the way our country works. and that grand jury met for three months one time a week and 12 people in good faith and they looked at all of the evidence. 60 witnesses they listened to and they disagreed with you. they know more than you do and they said there is no probable cause for any of these charges. who are you to second guess them? >> listen, megyn, i have to
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respect the rule of law here, but i have to tell you it took 110 days to come down with any type of decision. if this home said were to happen in new york city it would have gone automatically to a real jury and a real trial. clearly this prosecutor made huge blunders and that's why the people are angry. that's why people are angry whether we agree or disagree, but that's why the people are angry. >> the people are misinformed richard. arthur was just saying that nine cases out of 10 there wouldn't have been a grand jury proceeding where it is an officer involved shooting nine times out of 10 the cop would not have been put thraw this because nine times out of 10 they believe the law enforcement officers and their test mown y'alls, but in this case it went to another level and it was another level of review. >> i hear that, but the reason that it got to that point is the frustration that happened on the ground. people demanded there be a grand jury hearing here. at the end of the day you know as well as i do as an
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attorney, a prosecutor can get charges for a ham sandwich. >> but he has to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. jay i think it can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. at the end of a day that was unarmed and shot and killed in the streets of ferguson. >> i realize that. >> and that's why the people are angry. all across this country. it is not just me. but it is millions of people across the country. >> but you are ignoring the fact that what the prosecutor told us was there was testimony that a, that man who wound up shot dead attacked a police officer after he had just committed a robbery and attacked a police officer sitting in his car and punched his face. and then -- let may finish and then i will give you thed then d and charged the officer. that prosecutor said that several -- several african-american witnesses came forward to say they saw the african-american 18-year-old coming toward the police officer. the police officer had his gun
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drawn. i'm sorry, but that is the testimony. >> michael brown had his hands up in the sign of universal surrender. beyond that point if you lack at the evidence, this prosecutor didn't even give the grand jury clear charges they would charge him for. at the end of the day this prosecutor who was so connected with the police department he could not have an independent view and at the beginning of the trial he said he wasn't going to a grand jury to begin with. it was the people that forced him there. >> and if that grand jury wanted to return an indictment they would have. great to see you, richard. >> this prosecutor didn't have to take it to a grand jury, but the 12 people met and should we or should we not live with that decision? >> well, we have to live with it at this point, megyn. the issue why people are angry and suspicious from the process is they believe from the beginning there was deep disrespect and disregard for the humanity of mike brown. his body was left in the
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street for four hours and then uncare pone yously -- unceremoniously loaded into the back of an suv. >> that insensed a lot of people and the police department apologized for it and there is no getting around it. >> which they should have. >> but that is a frnt question. >> the people september a loud and clear message that we do not have respect for this individual. when the community sees that, they believe the state told them you are not going to get any justice here. months go by and they are getting conflicting statements from the chief of police and self-serving information. there is nothing that changes their mind-set. >> what do you make of the violence we are seeing tonight? what do you make of the violence we are seeing tonight? >> you touched on it earlier, megyn. it is a powder keg that exploded and the flames have been stoked little bay little by the events that have occurred in ferguson. from the beginning of the lack of transparency by the ferguson police department to the heavy handed response to
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the protesters to the fact that this grand jury, even though we as lawyers understand it, many people view it as we went in the room and we had a secret process and we can't tell you what it is about, but we decided nothing is wrong here. >> don't the folks who are thinking that way need people to come out and tell them, look, you have to trust in the system. there was a full and fair hearing. the grand jurors heard all of the evidence. you can't listen to al sharpton who is out there saying this boy was murdered by a white police officer who wasn't in fear of his life. >> people are not listening to al sharpton. they are looking with their own two eyes and seeing what is going on here. they see someone who was shot at at least 10 times being unarmed after the alleged altercation was over. >> it wasn't over. he was coming toward the police officer. that was the testimony. >> he was shot at 10 times by an officer. >> the officer has no obligation to lose his own life in the line of duty.
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that is what they say. >> and he does have an obligation to not take the life of someone unless it is necessary. >> and he said it was. i have five seconds. up next after the break mark ferman. we will be right back.
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live pictures of violent protest from ferguson, missouri. it comes as we have new pictures of officer darren wilson taken on the day of the confrontation of michael brown. you can see -- well you can't see much here. the close up photos show what he claims are his injuries. if you look at the medical reports they speak about facial bruising. now we have officer wilson's account as told to the grand jury. way understand he told authorities michael brown shut his own police door on him and started swinging and punching at him. mark ferman is a former lapd,
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homicide detective and fox contributor. first i want you to react to the discussion i just had with andel and richard. >> i don't think there is anything, megyn that you will say to anybody on the other side of this issue about michael brown being the aggressor. michael grown is the success -- brown is the suspect and the the prosecutor didn't use those words, but he described michael brown's conduct from the very beginning at the convenience store to the very end of his life as being the aggressor and the suspect. and that is why there is not an indictment. when you hear an exchange as we just did, completely irrational, dilutional and completely incapable of absorbing facts that are forensic in nature and that are eyewitness in nature and that are from the very person that was getting attacked in the car. so there is really no way you are going to get any reasonable dialogue from
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somebody that has decided that michael brown was murdered. >> as we watched the protesters on the streets and the fires that were set and the looting that was taking place, we speak with mark ferman and the evidence released in this case including the testimony from officer wilson. i have the transcript rate here of his actual police statement. he talks about the moment michael brown left the car and started running away. he says i was yelling at him to stop and get on the ground. he kept running and then eventually stopped. hay stopped and looked at me and made a grunting noise and had the most intense aggressive face i have seen on a person. when he looked at me he did the hop like people do to start running. he started running at me. he took his right hand and put it under his waist band. i said to stop and i fired multiple shots. after i fired multiple shots and i paused and yelled at him to get on the ground again and he was still in the same state and still charging and hands
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still in the waist band and hadn't slowed down and i fired another set of shots. still running at me. president h slowed down. hadn't slowed down and hands in the waist band. he was eight to 10 feet away and he was coming at me and i fired more shots. that was the end of it. mark? >> you know something, you and i talked about this for months. we have gone over this scenario and it has gone down exactly like we thought it would go down. why? you have little tidbits of information and you can see how you go from one square to the next square and you can see what is going on with the suspect and the officer. these statements from officer wilson are so important because he articulates every little thing an officer is thinking in those split seconds. he knows both of these suspects have not been searched. he knows the conduct of this man when he attacked him in
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the car was so violent and he knew he could not overcome this man on the street if he closed the distance. when he reached inside his shirt he saw he might have a weapon. completely an in policy shooting. when i listen to these commentators on some of the other networks, they are talking about well the grand jury isn't a body that actually is seen the way a regular jury would. you're right. a regular jury would be interrupted by the defendant's attorney and they would be challenged and the jury wouldn't get the evidence until the end. this jury had you will of the evidence and was not interrupted whatsoever. the other thing they went into such articulate detail. he didn't have to do this. when he gave this case to the grand jury he did something that most people don't understand. he could have simply reviewed the shooting, all of the
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statements of officer wilson, the investigation and then cay have simply said i am not filing any charges. in policy shooting, within the state law, it is done. but he gave it to the grand jury. >> right. and the people refuse, some of them, to abide by the system as it has been set up. under the hands of a prosecutor who they put in office who handled plenty of cases involving black defendants, white defendants, you name it, and yet tonight they riot on the streets of ferguson because they say this system they do not trust. mark, thank you for being here. up next, a look at officer wilson's injure rays and his -- injuries and his statement. we'll play it for you. '?
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we are seeing looting in
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ferguson. there are calls for calm, but we are also hearing officer wilson's side and seeing new photos of injuries he suffered that fate fled -- that fateful day. trace? >> the brown family knew hours before we did that officer darren wilson will be indicted and they scheduled a press conference at 11:00 a.m. saint sash sash st. louis time. they released a statement saying we are profoundly disappointed the killer of our child will not face the consequence of his actions. while we understand that many share our pain, we ask that you channel your frustration in ways that will make a positive change. the browns go on to ask that every police officer in this country wears a body camera to record their every move and then they called for calm saying, quote, we respectfully ask you please keep your protests peacefullence aing violence for violence is not
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the appropriate violence. lawyers for darren wilson say wilson did what he was trained to do saying, quote, we have maintained and the grand jury agreed that officer wilson's actions on august 9th were in accordance with the laws and regulations that govern the procedures of an officer. going on to say, quote, we recognize that many people will want to second guess the grand jury's decision. officer wilson also called for calm and then went on to thank those who supported him. and we are now getting a first up close look at the injuries that darren wilson suffered during his fight with michael brown we were told weeks and weeks ago he fractured his eye socket when brown punched him, but wilson didn't confirm that. the pictures only appear to show a facial injury and no eye socket injury and that's probably why it was never confirmed in the first place. >> that's interesting to know. there qas a dot -- there was a
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dot-com report that said a fractured socket as well. before this decision went down the kelly file got a statement from officer darren wilson. it was read by one of his supporters. take a listen. >> to all of the pro-officer wilson supporters. i would like to thank you all for standing up for me during this stressful time. your support and dedication is amazing and it is still hard to believe that all of these people that i have never met are doing so much for me. i wish i could attend and meet you and hug you and personally thank you for all of your continued support. however, due to my and my family's safety, i am unable to. thank you from the bought temperature of my heart and know that i would do the same for any of you. >> this as we watch new video. look at the fires burning. fires burning, shots fired, stores looted as we saw people running out of the liquor store with bottles of booze and running out of the mcdonalds with food and
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running out of other stores that have now been set on fire. we have spoken with local business owners through their representatives and they are angry and they are nervous and they are asking why they have to pay a price. protests coming in from outside the white house as well. just hours after president obama made a statement calling for calm after the ferguson decision these protesters did not hear that calm. i do want to tell the folks at home that at least in one case as somebody tried to loot -- asç a group of people tried to loot the store some of the protesters lined up around them and tried to stop them from getting away with it. that's what it has been like in ferguson, the highs and the lows. some dreadful behavior and some lawed believe a. laudable. we will have a live report on what is happening next.
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breaking tonight complete chaos in ferguson, missouri. the same streets that saw violent protests this summer are being rocked by a level of destruction we have not yet seen. police cars torched and turned over. the st. louis county prosecutor was asked about the testimony in particular from african-american witnesses. listen. >> were there any african-american witnesses who testified that michael brown was coming toward the officer when brown was shot? >> yes. all of the -- the ones i mentioned specifically -- the ones i mentioned specifically were all african-americans. the one who indicated that he came at him at a full charge and that as officer wilson fired shots at him mr. brown stopped and officer wilson stopped shooting. as mr. brown started charging
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at him again, those are his words, his testimony, mr. wilson started shooting again. the others who had consistant stories with not just each other -- or not just their stories or their testimony throughout, but they were consistent with several others and are all african-american. >> joining me now is prosecutor. it is not going anywhere and they will not play that for the protestor where they say it was a racial thing and the fix is in. >> there are two sets of people. there are protesters and rioters. those people who are rioting, they don't even know the name of the prosecutor. they are using this as an excuse. >> i agree with that. but what about the protesters? i see the protesters and i see some who have a legitimate gripe about relations with law enforcement in cities across the country where those relations can be improved. but both sides working together. both sides. i don't know whether those people know what the actual
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testimony was or whether they believe the representations of a guy like al sharpton who just went out there and stoked the fires by giving them misinformation after misinformation and never to be corrected. >> how about this, the people who are currently protesting are doing this whole hands up thing and i believe one of the things the prosecutor said was there is no evidence that he had his hands up in the air like he was about to surrender when he was shot. that is a whole myth. he said so many people who have testified were shown to be lying, absolutely lying. they weren't even there. they hadn't even seen the shooting. >> they got caught when the forensic evidence came in after the testimony. >> and all of those grand jurors because they were not sequestered they knew the potential ramifications of the decision not to indict. all that shows me is that the evidence must have been so bad , so shabby, that they couldn't even indict on the lowest count, the involuntary manslaughter that would have
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had a maximum four years in jail and they couldn't even do that because there wasn't strong enough evidence to show the police officer committed a criminal act. not a tragedy or mistake or something went wrong, a crime. >> you have to look at this officer's state of mind. all along supporters of michael brown said, well, this cop, he reversed -- he told him get off the street. then he reversed his car when he realized these are probably the guys involved in the strong arm robbery. he reversed his car and got mix to them. michael brown's friend said the officer opened his door and hit michael brown and that he intentionally began a confrontation with michael brown. here is just two of the witness testimonies. this is witness 40. michael brown first approached the cop car. quote. the cop tried getting out and the big 1 hit the door and the cop looked po-ed. he tried to open it again and the big kid hit it with the gut and the little one punched the mirror.
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the little one told the story about how it was all the cop being the aggressor. something gold fell on the ground and the big one is half in the window or slash door. but i swear the little one had the cop's leg. the next person says, and this is witness 44 question, okay so you are saying he charged, meaning the big guy? yeah. and he jerked his head forward. just like instantly the car pulled backwards and he, meaning the big guy instantly ran to the window like he had something to say to him, meaning officer wilson. and from what you can tell he appeared to be mad? yes. >> so going to exactly what you read, the other thing the prosecutor told us today was you know the video that's been out there of michael brown stealing the cigars? i was never sure that the grand jury heard that the police officer knew this person had just committed a robbery. he is a suspect. he is not just a kid walking down the street. he is a guy who matches the description of a robbery that took just place.
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just took place. that's why he is confronting this man. that is a fact. in the police officer's mind this is not just two kids walking. one matches the description of someone who just committed a robbery. >> and according to the eyewitness he's begins a violent confrontation with the police officer which we didn't get to the ultimate part that resulted in the police officer struggling with that man over his own firearm which he then fired off two times hitting michael brown on the hand. there is no question that they struggled over the officer's gun in that car. >> what the cousin of michael brown is saying now is that because of that struggle in the carmichael then walked away and -- car michael then walked away. the cousin's argument was the police officer is now enraged and he is not acting to protect himself. he is not acting as a police officer. he is acting as a guy who is pissed off. >> why can't that be possible?
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>> well, the police officer -- >> let me just tell you something. the part of this case that has always troubled me is -- i get everything we have talked about thus far. the kid and they had the confrontation and the car and now the officer feels for his safety and his life is in danger, but then the kid runs away. he is not a kid. he is an 18-year-old. he runs away. it has always been hard to believe that somebody fleeing for his life, from an armed officer would then make the decision to stop and turn around and then charge the officer knowing -- officer wilson doesn't know if michael brown doesn't have a gun. michael brown know he's doesn't have a gun. that's part of the cop story that smelled to me. and yet what this prosecute are told us is that the witnesses who were credible including the african-american witnesses describe michael brown as making a, quote, full charge at the officer. >> correct. and that is a huge point that came out. it was a great great question.
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it was a specific answer. going become to the fact that this is a police officer now who has been assaulted and a weapon has been discharged in his vehicle and he also has to have in the front of his mind he is wanted for robbery. there are three things that are going on here. it gives the police officer -- a reasonable belief that a criminal activity is afoot and he can now pursue him. missouri law is liberal regarding police officers' actions and what actions they can take to pursue somebody who they believe has committed a crime. >> ferman made a point if we got this case before a real jury, what would happen is officer wilson would have an attorney present who cross-examine minute the witnesses. it wouldn't go better for michael brown's side. it would go worse for michael brown's side. >> somebody cayed me on facebook, if you were the prosecutor would you have got an indictment. the truth is, megyn, after i saw the evidence and i am the chief prosecutor, i don't want
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an indictment. i have to live with this case. i need to be confident as a prosecutor that i can prove this case beyond -- correct. i have to say to a judge i know i con prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. they couldn't even get a preponderance of the evidence which is 51%. it is not beyond a reasonable doubt which is a higher standard. this is a case riddled with inconsistencies and riddled with lies. 9 of the 12 people knowing that town was going to blow up and all of these other cities that are having issues, they still couldn't say -- they couldn't find enough evidence to even come up with the lowest charge which means it was not there. >> the media has an obligation to let folks know what the grand jury based its decision on. that's all. you don't have to take a position on it if you don't like the result. but you have an obligation to let them know what the grand juries -- jurors based their decision on.
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>> this is a horrible thing that is going on. >> it is incredible to watch the pictures of the burning and the looting 3 and the -- and the shots fired and our own reporters finding themselves in the midst of a dangerous situation and we will continue to check in. throughout the past few hours we have witnessed horrifying scenes of violence. how are the police going to get things back under control and how does the community move forward? we will speak with a former fbi assistant director and a former civil rights leader and we will tell you what eric holder is now saying, next.
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there is breaking news in ferguson, missouri. look at this fire. we are now seeing a business in flames and more looting on the streets of perking son. the streets of ferguson. i think there is an auto zone which is a national chain and this is not the first, not nearly the first fire we have seen tonight. mike tobin is there live of the mike? >> the auto zone burned and i am about a mile north of harrigan's position. you can see a lot of people walking up the streets. you can see the people hanging out of the cars. it is very much a celebratory move hanging out of the cars and honking the horns. across the street i can show you an auto tire store. i wouldn't say the place is being looted as much as it is being vandalized.
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bobbie, can you zoom through the front door? people are in there right now and they are throwing things against the front of the window trying to smash the other -- do you see the kids coming out of the auto tire store? they are in there throwing things around and looks like they are trying to break the window from the inside out. someone is behind me saying this is justice. so this is their vision of justice. we have people in front of the store. as we look up the street here more people are hanging out and turning this into a bit of a party, if you will, megyn. >> where are the police? >> we saw a large -- we saw a large concentration of police in different locations, but it seems the police are letting it play out. we have seen them over toward chambers avenue a quarter mile away to the north. i don't see them here in the immediate location. >> mike, we will check back in with you momentarily. >> we are joined by the president of the law
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enforcement legal defense fund and former assistant of the fbi and joe hicks, the vice president of community advocates. let me sta looting and the fires being set tonight as an expression of frustration with the system. >> you heard somebody behind the camera say this is justice. this is an overuse, but dr. king has to be spinning in his grave. if that is what justice looks like it tramples over the martyrs of the civil rights movement that struggled for real things, real racism and real issue these were trying to overcome. you have thugs and punks and hoodems in the street and -- hood lemes and they are saying this 1 justice. this is what i remember in 1992 and 1965 when l.a. went through the big riots. similar high school --
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hooliganism and frankly people acting like idiot. >> as a police officer and somebody who worked in law enforcement your whole life, the people say they don't believe in the system. they say that the blacks are targeted more than the whites are in ferguson and they have documentary evidence to prove it, in particular with respect to traffic stops. 24r have been one, two, a couple of incidents in the past of questionable police behavior cited in the media to the build up of the case. they say they just don't believe this prosecutor tried his hardest. your thoughts? >> i think we need some leadership to emerge from this situation people who can talk to the mainstream you within the african-american community and can discuss the facts like the prosecutor did. i thought he gave a great lesson to the listeners and the viewers. you need someone who will
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listen to that. that's the challenge is to find the leaders who can emerge and who can have this conversation. law enforcent in leaders as well well -- law enforcement leaders who can regain the trust and start the conversation and start over fresh. >> they say our own investigation at the doj is on going. it remains on going to the police officer. the president is talking about how this is a stress between the law enforcement and community of color. your thoughts on that message? jay so when you get leadership that buys into this kind of stuff that we are seeing on the screen and in a certain way where they say we need police departments it will reflect the racial make up of the community. what is he saying? do we need asian cops to police asian neighborhoods and jewish cops to police jewish neighborhoods and black cops
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for -- this is a ludicrous notion obama presents as well as buying into the anger we are seeing saying we have to understand the anger of the rioters and the looters and people who felt as if they didn't, quote, get scwus ties. that's not helpful. we hear from mr. hosks we need leadership. we need leadership, but we are not getting it from the administration, like holder and obama and we are not getting it from major national civil rights figures figures who utilize this in terms of their agenda. mike brown hillary appear -- will reappear in civil rights. he will be installed by people like rosa parks and martin luther king greats. imagine that, trayvon martin is now a civil rights hero. spoken of as emma till. >> trayvon martin wasn't doing anything wrong and michael brown was. >> he wasn't performing any courageous acts and that's
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what others did. trayvon martin did nothing to be say she a civil rights leader or heroic leader, not like michael brown stealing cigarettes did. >> back with more from ferguson. the conference call.
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up and had a few standing out 234 front of the century auto store about eight gays who >> there are about 8 guys looking inside. people are driving and pealing out their tires. i want to look at the taco bell. did you get a look at that? the taco bell has been broken into. there is a gas station and we watched that being looted. the kids running in the front door and coming out of arm loads of what they can carry. and we are right across from the auto zone you talked about which is now pretty much fully involved in flames. the fire department is no where to be seen, megyn. >> it is unbelievable as building after building ignites. the police, the national guard we were told was going to be on scene, where are they? where is the fire department? mike, we will stay with it and stay with you as the evening goes on. thank you for score reporting. it has been fantastic. we just got a statement from the f.a.a. the beginning reads as follows, due to reports from law enforcement of gunshots
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fired into the sky, the f.a.a. activated a temporary flight restriction over ferguson, missouri. only law enforcement aircraft permitted to fly in this area and it goes on from there. we heard reports that at least a hundred gunshots were heard and we didn't know whom or where they were fired. you can see the chaos in the streets of ferguson. as michael brown's family calls for calm and nonviolence in the wake of the grand jury doing what it is supposed to do listening to the evidence and rendering its decision. we will have much more tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. we hope you will join us. go to facebook.com/the kelly file. thanks for watching. i'm may again kelly. i'm megyn kelly. =4fwae7q)17bl2a[vé"ú?4oineéífm;é
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