bye-bye. martha: thanks, everybody. must♪ ♪ jon: ferguson, missouri, explodes in violence overnight after the announcement that a grand jury would not indict police officer darren wilson in the shooting death of unarmed teenager michael brown. welcome to "happening now," i'm jon scott. heather: and i'm heather in for jenna lee today. the streets of ferguson, missouri, mostly clear, the sidewalks covered in shattered glass that tells the story of last night's fury there. protesters torching buildings and police cars, looters leaving more than two dozen hiss damaged or destroyed -- businesses damaged or destroyed. in the meantime, police responding with smoke, tear gas and also bean bags, arresting more than 80 people there altogether. and now police are stepping up their efforts to contain the violence. >> the plan that we had with the national guard to deploy them

throughout the city at about 45 locations, i believe, did have a positive impact. we're going to continue to see the presence of the police department at organized events just as we have seen. but you're going to see more of them. and very early on, was we know what's capable -- because we know what's capable of happening in these crowds, you will see an intervention when we see criminal activity. we do not tolerate criminal activity. heather: let's go to mike tobin live in ferguson, missouri. mike, you were out there last night and again today. when you talk with folks out there, how do they feel about all the destruction in their town? >> reporter: well, largely they feel sad, and that's exactly what you see as you look behind me. you can see a business that was probably someone's life goal in one night now burnt to the ground. as we pan off in this direction can, please, we can look over at that mobil store to. we saw kids busting in the front door, runs out with as much as they could put in their arms. the police would show up, they'd

scatter. as soon as the police left, they went back inside and started looting again. as we look south, you can see the smoke coming up. it's my observation particularly from being back there last night that every business sustained some kind of damage. just about all that we could see in the immediate vicinity had some kind of fire burning last night. the auto zone store was entirely engulfed, the title business was engulfed in friends. that area now is a mile and a half crime scene. it's all shut down. back there is canfield drive where michael brown was shot, that was also where the concentration of the gunfire was last night. when we were back there, it was 360 degrees of mayhem. kids running in every direction smashing everything they could. given the amount of mayhem we saw, the number of arrests is relatively low. 61 people arrested. most of them from the ferguson, st. louis or immediate area in illinois.

therefore, captain ron johnson of the state a police says the community here needs to own this destruction. >> in august we talked about the out of towners came in and tore up our community. well, our community's got to take some responsibility for what happened tonight, for what happened tonight as far as tearing our community apart. >> reporter: and we also heard from chief john belmar of the st. louis county police in the wee, small hours of the morning. sadly, what he said is he doubts now this community behind me will ever be able to rebuild. heather? heather: unbelievable. mike tobin, thank you. here's a look at some of the sights and sounds from last night in ferguson. [gunfire] >> reporter: multiple shots fired! back now! >> the people that were

committing violence, the people looting, smashing windows, that's not protesting. that's criminal conduct. [gunfire] >> reporter: tear gas. >> i join michael's parents in asking anyone who protests this decision to do so peacefully. let me repeat michael's father's words: hurting others or destroying property is not answer. >> no! no! >> violence doesn't solve anything, and if we're going to have real change in this community, it's going to take all of us working together. jon: for more on this now let's bring in "usa today"'s national breaking news reporter. she is live in ferguson, missouri. i know you spent a lot of time with michael brown's family. have they commented to you about how they feel about all of this destruction in their town?

>> reporter: no, i haven't talked to them about what happened last night, but i imagine that they're heartbroken because they asked over and over and over again for peace and, obviously, last night there was a lot of violence. so i think that the family is probably very disappointed because, again, in all the conversations i've had with them, they've urged for peace. jon: yeah. you had some heart-rending descriptions of the reaction of the family when they find -- found out there was not going to be an indictment, but they have been very profound in asking that people channel their energies into some positive way and not the kind of destruction we saw last night. >> reporter: that's exactly right. i was in the, i was in the hotel room when leslie mcfadden got the news that officer darren wilson was not going to be facing any charges. no matter how you sit on this issue, i think a mother's pain is something that's very relatable to a lot of people, and this was a mother who was screaming and crying and who

left the room very quickly after hearing that. so she was very, very upset. it was very heartbreaking to watch her. so either way whatever you think about this decision, this mother is really heart broken, and i think she's probably even more heart broken at the fact that people are now -- people were violent in her son's name in some way. jon: yeah. the prosecutor, when he announced the results, the grand jury's decision not to indict, you know, made it very clear that there was evidence of a struggle inside the police car, that shots were fired inside the police car, that michael brown's blood was found inside the police car. what does michael's mother have to say about that? >> reporter: i think michael's mother really wanted this to go through the criminal justice process. i think those facts that you named, the fact that there was a struggle in the car, the fact that his blood was found in the car, those were things we knew through the autopsy report, so those were not things that we learned last night. i think the mother really wanted

the criminal justice system to go through and not to have no chargings. uh-uh think she really wanted a jury to decide she really wanted a trial where people could really look at this evidence, where people could testify in open court. so i think while that evidence is there, i think this mother is saying she needs to know more, and she's maintained that her son was shot with his hands up. she says that he was murdered. jon: yeah. but, again, the prosecutor said that the most credible, the most credible witnesses didn't see it that way, didn't see michael brown with his hands up, that he was apparently attacking the police officer, at least that was the decision of the grand jury. but given the violence, given the strong emotion that has come out in ferguson as a result of all this, is anyone surprised that there would be people who wouldn't want to testify in open court? >> reporter: i think people are surprised because even

though, you know, fear is not a reason not to get on the stand, it's not something you can say i'm scared to get on the stand, especially in this community where this case means so much to so many people. and i think while people are burning down stores and people were looting in some ways, people weren't attacking people from what i could see. i didn't see anybody that was punch ped in the face. i was on the street as a lone reporter, as a female all night. no one attacked me, no one -- i didn't feel in danger at all. so i think while people may have had concerns about testifying in open court, i think that, you know, this mother really wanted her day in court. jon: but there are, there are people, you know, demanding justice, but it seems like only if justice means criminal charges filed against the police officer. you know? what if that was -- go ahead. >> reporter: i agree. i think that justice for this community meant that there was going to be charges against that police officer and that then there was going to be a trial and that then people would be able to say, okay, well, people saw all the evidence in open

court, and now we can say at least there was a trial. but i agree with you, there were people here that that's the only justice they understand. of course, as you know, there are people that support darren wilson, people that say justice was served because the system worked as it should have in this case. so there are people who also agree with darren wilson's family and are having really a sigh of relief in some ways because they think that justice was served last night. jon: well, we thank you very much for sharing your thoughts as well as your photos with us. we know you spent some time with mike l brown's -- michael brown's family last night. we appreciate your time today, thanks. heather: well, another big story that we are covering right now, the weather. things are beginning to thaw out in buffalo, new york, after a historic seven-plus feet of snow there, but that area is not free from disaster just yet. rick leventhal is reporting live from eden, new york. hi there, rick. looks a little bit cooler today than yesterday, but i how are things looking overall? >> reporter: right, earth

heather. -- heather. flood warnings still in effect through this afternoon, but concerns have eased because the temperatures have dropped so dramatically. we're down into the 30s now, and that's given time to begin the rebuilding process, and that includes the folks here which sumped millions of dollars in -- suffered millions of dollars in damages. they had a number of greenhouses heavily damaged or destroyed in that snowstorm last week. just take a look at this room back here, this entire area just devastated. several greenhouses really, really hit hard. they've dealt with major snowstorms in the past, but never one this heavy and this fast, up to 6 inches an hour for hours on end. the snow collected on the glass and plastic roofs which finally gave way. they grew flowers and vegetables, thousands of plants, started seedling in these greenhouses over the winter, and when it's warm enough, they move

them outside filling hundreds of acres, but this year it's nearly a total loss and will cost the family millions. >> it's the worst time of year to try to build a greenhouse, we've always built them in july and august around our vegetable season. it's sad timing. >> reporter: but you don't have a choice. >> no, there's no choice. but like i said, i'll also see the sun come up tomorrow. i can fix or rebuild a greenhouse and rebuild the business. >> reporter: mark says insurance will cover some of their losses, heather, but definitely not all. heather: boy, how tough for that family, rick, and i imagine you see that story echoed all across that area with the devastation of businesses. boy, he's sure keeping it in perspective, isn't he? >> reporter: yeah, he is. a lot of farms were heavily hit in this area. heather: all right. rick leventhal, thank you so much. jon: rick out there in shirt sleeves yesterday and today in a

parka zipped up. police fear the worst in the search for a missing mother of three. jessica padgett left her job at a daycare center friday afternoon, and she hasn't been seen since. now her family is making a desperate plea for answers. plus, rioters directing their rage at reporters in ferguson amid questions over the media coverage of this dangerous situation. @oyu0x?hy@x@8p

heather: right now some new information on crime stories that we're following. the search intensifies for the missing mother of three in pennsylvania. jessica padgett disappeared last friday after she left her job at a daycare center. now police say the case is being treated as a criminal matter. in michigan final arguments set to begin in the case of a former high school tutor who's accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old student. abigail simon took the stand in

her own defense testifying that the alleged victim forced himself on her and that she was controlled by him. and lawyers for ex-nfl player aaron hernandez due in court to talk about evidence sharing with prosecutors in the murder of two boston men in 2012. prosecutors say that they were killed after a chance encounter with hernandez earlier in the evening at a nightclub. the former patriots' player is also charged with the murder of an acquaintance last year. jon that. jon: back to that firestorm in ferguson, missouri, after the grand jury decision with the media caught in the middle of violent protests. take a look, a protester or breaking a fox news camera last night. we watched it live as demonstrators directed their rage at reporters on air. meantime, president obama calling on the media to shift its coverage. >> and i think the media's going to have a responsibility as well to make sure that we focus on

michael brown's parents and the clergy and the community leaders and the civil rights leaders and law enforcement officials who have been working very hard to try to find better solutions, long-term solutions to this issue. jon: joining us now, alan colmes, host of the alan colmes show, cal thomas, sindhuated columnist and -- syndicated columnist and fox news contributor and juan williams. welcome to all three of you. juan, the president said, you know, let's look at the long-term actions here. you wrote very eloquently on foxnews.com -- and for those who haven't seen it, i would steer them to look at your report -- but you wrote about the actions of some of the black leaders or maybe nonactions in this case. elaborate on that. >> well, you know, just as we're talking about media having some responsibility, think of the two black leaders that the media pays most attention to, and that

would be al sharpton and jesse jackson. well, last night in the aftermath of the grand jury's decision not to indict, where's al sharpton? where's jesse jackson? as things are getting out of control, where are they? instead you have these provocateurs who i think are playing to the cameras in some cases when they're not destroying the cameras, setting the tone for what's to come which was violence and rioting. and i just think this is so self-destructive. the real leadership has come from the brown family that said we want this to be a call to action, not a call to riot, and they have concrete steps, you know, like police wearing body cameras that people could invest energy and time in trying to achieve rather than destroying the black community where we live. jon: yeah. alan, what about it? i mean, the media are blamed, some it is -- the term riot porn was used. the media blamed for being in a position to cover whatever

happened, a lot of bad stuff happened, and the media covered it. are the media to blame? >> no. the media is covering the news. the news is that bad stuff happens. however, i think everything juan said is right on. but there were also a bunch of peaceful demonstrations all over the country, in philadelphia and oakland and new york and chicago, here in this city where i live in, new york, peaceful demonstrations in union square and all over the upper west side, east village, west village. that was not covered because you going to go where the flames are. and when you see a police car on fire -- and by the way, a lot of those businesses that were looted were black businesses. so the people doing this didn't care about michael brown, they were not concerned at all about michael brown, they just wanted an excuse to behave in a tragic and terrible manner. jon: yeah, cal, that's the irony here. some people seem to think a terrible crime was visited upon michael brown, and they respond to it with terrible crimes. >> well, i want you to save this sound bite, jon, because i agree with alan colmes and juan

williams, i even agree with president obama up to a point where he said we need to shift the focus. we do, indeed. but we need to shift the focus beyond the focus that he wants to put on what has happened in ferguson. i've been around long enough, i saw the riots here in washington in 1968. i was flying back from atlanta right after the assassination of martin luther king watching my hometown burn beneath. i saw the riots in watts, in los angeles, in detroit in the '60s and '70s, but nothing changes. we could replay the tapes over and over again there these things, the same grievances. what the real problems are are failing schools where the liberal democrats won't let these children escape from, families that are never created or that are dissolved, and an attitude of victimhood. now, the head of this network, roger ailes, has brilliantly said if you see yourself as a victim, then you become a victim. but if you see yourself as a winner, you'll eventually win. that's the attitude that needs to be inculcated in every poor person whether they are black,

hispanic or white in this country, and that's what we're not getting. and the media reinforce this stereotype of rioting and looting, and we get more of it as a result. jon: well, the country is taking a hard look at itself this morning. we want to ask you guys a few more questions about all of this. it is the big story of the day. we'll be back with more coverage and our panel's thoughts on the ferguson verdict and the aftermath in just a moment. i'm an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. so my buddy here is going to help me find it. here we go. woo who, woah, woah, woah. it's out there somewhere spreading the word about america's favorite potatoes: heart healthy idaho potatoes and the american heart association's go red for women campaign. if you see it i hope you'll let us know. always look for the grown in idaho seal.

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>> sorry, i just got hit by a rock. >> tear gas. >> there's tower gas just dropped -- tear gas that just dropped near us. it's going to be very bad if we don't have masks. >> they're throwing it back. >> those watching at home, this is live television. what about all the people that have these masks on like that guy? jon: that guy in the mask destroyed steve harrigan's camera although steve and his crew were okay. let's get back to our media panel, alan colmes, cal thomas and juan williams. both of them fox news contributors. juan, you know, this grand jury -- 12 people, 3 of them african-americans -- heard testimony for weeks. they could have charged with first or second-degree murder, they could have charged manslaughter. they heard all of the evidence. everybody who was invited, you know, who said they knew

anything about this case and knew what happened in the street that day testified, and the grand jury decided not to issue ap indictment. an indictment. do you think the media has adequately informed people what the process was all about? >> you know, i think it's a very difficult task to inform people because, clearly, this was an extended grand jury, three month period, jon, and in many cases people have the instinct -- and i think this is what you heard earlier from the reporter talking about the brown family -- that they would like this to be a transparent transaction so that people could hear and see for themselves and reach some independent judgment. instead it was a closed process. so even though i think people may have heard, oh, it's a grand jury and we know that's the process, there's a sense of, you know, it was the establishment in st. louis protecting the interests of the police officer. and i think that that leads to some question. but the process is the process. i don't think people are going

to say that it's somehow illegitimate, it's just i think given we're in america people want to know exactly what took place, and they wish in some cases there was the opportunity for cross-examination. jon: well, alan, we're in america where in this particular case haven't the flames been fanned by the media talking about an unarmed black teen shot by a white police officer? >> well, that's what happened. jon: it is what happened, but we don't know the sequence of events. >> that's true, but we also have, if you go to the fbi statistics, time after time after time the percentage of black teens that are shot and killed by white power establishment far outweighs the converse. that's just a fact. the numbers are out there. and also i don't understand why the prosecutors decide to do this at 8:00 central time at night. knowing you don't have daylight, you're going to have more trouble at night, it's going to be harder to contain, you won't have as good vision. why would they have done this the way they did it? that's an important question, i wish they'd tell us.

jon: that is an important question. cal, what about the idea of releasing these grand jury transcripts? apparently, we're going to see or read the testimony that the grand jury heard. >> yeah. i think it's a great idea. the u.k. daily mail today -- which does an excellent job, incidentally, reporting on things that are happening in america -- has pictures of the evidence and summation of that. but we all come at this as we used to say, jon, with our own templates. white people look at the looting, the liquor store, the people bringing out all the booze and laughing it up and attacking reporters, african-american people look at it with a different template. there were people interviewed on this network over several nights who were asked by bill o'reilly, sean hannity and others, okay, well, what about the evidence? many of them said, well, everybody looks at the evidence in a different way. well, the evidence is the evidence. facts are facts. blood is blood. dna is dna. we've got to cut through the templates, and i think releasing this evidence to the media is a good way to do it.

jon: cal thomas, alan colmes, juan williams, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, jon. heather: some other stories we are covering this morning, new rules coming out from the fda will soon require many restaurants and other places to post calorie counts. so what this will mean for you, we'll explain. and media from around the world descending on ferguson as we learn the grand jury's decision. howard kurtz will break it down, how news organizations handled the case and why the prosecutor called the 24-hour news cycle the, quote, most significant challenge. ♪ ♪

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jon: the fda rolling out new rules ty as part of obamacare, requiring a number of restaurants along with other places that sell food to post calorie counts. here to explain from the fox business network, lori rothman. lori? >> hi, jon. so new york city and seattle already do it, now the rest of the country will too. under the obama administration the food and drug administration unveiled new food labeling rules today that require all restaurants, convenience stores, even amusement parks, movie theaters and vending machine operators to clearly display the calories of every food item and alcoholic purchases. if you know how many calories

are packed into a slice of pepperoni pizza or bag of doritos, you may make a healthier choice and lower the costs of costly diseases. now, these labeling rules had been delayed several years as food retailers pushed back, many asking to be exempt saying the cost of as much as a billion dollars industry wide would add the cost of hundreds of millions to maintain this labeling. the grocery store chain kroger told the fda these regulations would mean job losses and higher grocery store bills for customers. bottom line, does food labeling force consumers to eat fewer calories? well, "the wall street journal" points to a 2011 study by stanford university that found starbucks' customers in new york city order just 6% fewer calories since calories were posted. food retailers have one year now to get onboard with these calorie guidelines.

vending machine operators have two years. jon, back over to you. jon: so we are paying to find out what's in our foot or at least how many -- in our food or at least how many calories. >> good way to put it, absolutely. jon: don't miss lori on fox business network. the if you're not sure where to find it in your area, log on to foxbusiness.com/channelfinder. heather: the prosecutor in the michael brown shooting talked about last night how the media coverage impacted the investigation. listen to this. >> the most significant challenge encountered in this investigation has been the 24-hour news cycle and its insatiable appetite for something, for anything to talk about. heather: howard kurtz is the host of "media buzz" every weekend here on the fox news channel and also a fox news media analyst. boy, when i heard that last night, my jaw dropped. do you believe the media covered this responsibly, the entire story? >> in a word, no. the media set a narrative from the outset based on fragmentary

evidence -- heather: well, there was a whole lot of speculation. >> some eyewitnesses changed their stories. so many things turned out to be wrong. an unarmed young black man shot by an overzealous cop. in fairness, officer wilson, the department were not putting out his side, so it was a one-sided narrative, but we should have been more cautious, more responsible. heather: it seemed like some networks really wanted to draw parallels between this and the trayvon martin story down in florida which, by the way, rated well for them. >> oh, yeah. this was the hot story when it happened, and i think also, obviously, the rioting that broke out and the presence of tv cameras which i think enflamed and attracted outside agitators. all of this added up to turning into a national melodrama that got away e from the fact that this was a local crime story where a grand jury was going to hear evidence. we did not know the evidence, but that didn't stop people from fanning the flames.

heather: could prosecutors have done a better job to give the media something so there's less speculation and so that more facts were out there? without damaging the case? because that's the most important part. >> of course. but the fact that this was shrouded in such secrecy drove me crazy. we didn't know until late in the game that there'd been a struggle in the car, that the gun had gone off. i don't see why some of that could have been put out early. that doesn't let us off the hook. we went with one-sided narrative largely -- not everybody, a lot of journalists did this -- and it turns out that account was wrong, and that helps explain, even if you believe that officer wilson acted recklessly, why there was no indictment. heather: the prosecutor also saying social media was a huge problem because a lot of rumor was put on social media. that was then repeated. this stuff was false, plain false information that was put out there, and it seems like that really affected not just the coverage, but how people felt about the story. >> i love social media, but it can be a place where irresponsible speculation gets

broadcast really. and i watched last night as soon as the announcement came down, a lot of hate on twitter and elsewhere before people even had a chance to hear what the evidence was and why that grand jury didn't return an indictment. heather: you just ask folks on the street, and many of them repeat falsehoods that were first heard on social media. there's not a way to stop this. >> it's very hard to change the story. it kind of gets hard ped into -- hardened into cement. heather: you have got a lot of stuff to talk about. >> no shortage. heather: jon? jon: protests erupted across the country last night after the michael brown grand jury announcement including right here in new york city where the police commissioner ended up doused in fake blood. the latest on the protests in a live report coming up. plus, the sister of one victim in last week's shooting at florida state university speaks out about her brother's condition and a life forever changed by a senseless act of violence.

heather: let's check out what's ahead on "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. hi, ladies. >> great to see you, thank you. after the riots in ferguson, missouri, and protests nationwide, michael brown's parents are due to speak at the top of the hour. what will they say about the decision not to charge the officer who killed their son and about their calls for peaceful protests which clearly are going ignored? >> plus, with defense secretary chuck hagel on the way out, is the white house tightening its grip on national security, and is that a good thing? >> and the obamacare architect, remember him? jonathan gruber? >> how could i forget? >> he called americans stupid. now he's set to testify before congress amid new word he warned years ago that the law would send premiums soaring.

>> and opposition to obamacare helped push our hashtag one lucky guy into the national spotlight, former senator scott brown is here, and he's outnumbered at the top of the hour. >> yes, we'll see you then. heather: thanks so much, ladies, we'll be watching. jon: one of three people shot when that gunman opened fire at florida state university was left paralyzed. 31-year-old student -- 21-year-old student was shot three times, one bullet severely damaging his spine leaving him paralyzed from the waist down. >> ronnie was studying for his finals when he was shot three times in front of the strozier library. one of the first bullets struck his spine, and it's left him paralyzed from the waist down. despite his injuries, he's alive, and we're so grateful that he's here with us, and his condition has been updated from critical to serious. jon: the only person still hospitalized after last week's

shooting. his friends have begun raising money to try to help with medical expenses. ronnie is from orlando, he is studying to be a biomedical engineer. heather: well, new fallout from the decision to extend nuclear talks with iran for another seven months. secretary of state john kerry defending it as the best way forward saying, quoted: we would be fools to walk away. but iran's supreme leader deannouncing the extension, saying that it shows the west failed to bring his country to its knees. joining us now, mark dubielewicz, executive director at the foundation for the defense of democracy. so is there something to what the supreme leader in iran said, or is that just more talk from them? >> i think the supreme leader is right. i mean, i think that the west has been finding ways to try and accommodate his red lines. he has only demonstrated nuclear intransigence, and he has demanded more and more flexibility from us. and we have provided more flexibility, more concessions and have moved away from our fundamental negotiating

positions over the past 12-18 months. so he's staying firm. heather: well, we sure did, and john kerry basically justifying that delay of seven months. he said that iran held up its end of the bargain. doesn't really seem like it did. what do you think about that? >> that's completely wrong. iran has been cheating on its obligations. it's been stonewalling the international atomic energy agency and denying iaea requests for information on iran's weaponization activities. these are the years and years of activities iran has undertaken to build a nuclear warhead, and they refuse to come clean. if that's not a violation of their obligations, i don't know what is. heather: all right. then why are we rewarding that kind of double dealing? >> well, because the administration continues to believe they can incentivize iran to come to a compromise by providing more and more sanctions relief, birdie minishing -- by diminishing sanctions relief.

unfortunately, what we know from iranian history is the only thing that's going to get the supreme leader to bend is more and more pressure. it's the only thing that gets the iranians to take us seriously, and we're moving in the other direction. heather: well, "the wall street journal" puts it this way in an editorial from brett stevens, he's talking about the united states here. quote: heather: so is the is the united states accepting a nuclear iran, in your view? >> i think the united states is trying to negotiate a deal that will con train iran's nuclear weapons -- constrain iran's nuclear weapons breakout. i think the problem is they fundamentally stepped away from their insistence that randies mantle its -- iran displanting its program. we've gone to all of these new technical ideas about disconnecting centrifuges and

deferring questions and providing more economic incentive. we fundamentally moved away from these tough negotiating positions, and the iranians have our number, and now they're playing for time with another seven months and tens of billions of dollars in more direct and indirect economic relief. heather: secretary of state john kerry, of course, is the one that is negotiating this, but now that secretary chuck hagel is out, how does that factor into all this? >> i think it's going to be important that the new secretary of defense is somebody not only respected by republicans and democrats, but is also feared by the supreme leader. we've got to reestablish the credibility of our military threat. the iranians are only going to move if they believe that they're going to face a tuesdayal wave of sanctions and the -- tidal wave of sanctions and the potential of military force to blitz rate their -- to obliterates their facilities. we just have to force the supreme leader away from his position of nuclear intransigence. heather: mark, there are some

here in the united states who say the united states can contain a nuclear iran, we can allow them to become a nuclear nation but, rather, we can contain them like the united states did with russia. do you agree with that? is that possible? is that the a good idea? >> fundamentally disagree with that. if iran acquires nuclear weapons capability, the saudis, the turks, the egyptians, the algerians have already made it clear in a variety of ways that they, too, will also move towards threshold capability. you'll have five nuclear-armed middle eastern states all on a hair trigger, and we could see a nuclear catastrophe whether by intention or by accident. i think the president's going to have a hard time dealing with that one from behind. heather: boy, a domino effect. mark dubielewicz from the foundation for defense for democracy, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. jon: we are watching a major storm that could disrupt thanksgiving travel plans for millions. the latest forecast just moments away. ♪ ♪ i'm an idaho potato farmer

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demonstrator was arrested after getting in an altercation with police after he was seen throwing a bottle into a crowd. the demonstrators took to the streets starting in new york's union square and then marched up to times square, and then they made their way to harlem. a handful tried to block traffic on a couple of bridges, many of those who took to the streets were not only upset about the lack of an indictment in ferguson, but recent events in new york involving the police. the protesters say they feel let down by the justice system. >> it tells me that the black men can just get shot down like dogs. i mean, it's just unbelievable. >> i think it's a catastrophe. it goes against everything as far as justice is concerned, and i think it's a complete embarrassment to american justice. >> reporter: the most disruptive protest took place in oakland, california, demonstrators carrying signs reading "the people say guilty,"

blocked traffic on i-580, there were numerous arrests. and in philadelphia a crowd gathered in anticipation of the announcement of the grand jury's decision when they heard there would not be an indictment, reaction was instantaneous and resulted in a march through the city. >> they've determined that no probable cause exists to file charges against officer wilson. >> overall, i'm not okay with the verdict. i'm not going to do anything reactionary, most folks won't. we do need to get more organized behind people including black people, poor people and whatever else because it's clearly socially, institutionally, prettily and economically racist -- politically and economically racist. >> reporter: demonstrations also took place in seattle, denver, boston, l.a., but there was little violence, and we just got word that activists in chicago say they will not leave the fifth floor of city hall

outside the mayor's office. they say in protest, they are going to remain there for the next 28 hourings. hours. other protests are also planned throughout the country for later today. jon? jon: david lee miller keeping tabs on it for us, thank you. heather: well, we are on the eve of the busiest travel day of the year, but now there is a winter storm that is brewing that could threaten the plans for millions of americans. our meteorologist, maria molina, has the latest from the fox weather center. as jon and i were just talking about our thanksgiving plans. >> reporter: bad timing, huh, on this storm system. we have a nor'easter, it's going to be producing all kinds of travel headaches across not only parts of the northeast and new england, but even as far south as parts of the mid atlantic, virginia could be picking up some snowfall especially along higher elevations. for today and as we head into tonight, the storm system will start to develop across parts of

the southeast, and that'll cross parts of florida. the rain will continue out there not only today, but even into tomorrow. then the storm starts to track up the east coast, and this is when it intensifies. we're going to see the wind really picking up across the mid atlantic and new england, and along interior areas, that precipitation should remain mostly as snow. it's those coastal areas and cities along the i-95 corridor where it's going to be very tricky in terms of the forecast. we're going to start out as rain, then a bit of a mix, then a transition eventually by the afternoon hours to all snow, and this is why we do have winter storm watches and warnings currently in effect from as far south as parts of virginia to the state of maine as much as a foot of snow or even higher amounts are possible. a little less along coastal areas. gonna be a mess. heather: affecting a lot of flights and peep who are driving too -- people who are driving too. maria, thanks, and we hope

you're wrong. [laughter] thank you. jon: defense secretary chuck hagel calls it quits. what this means for the president and the effort to fill a key national security post.

>> heather and i will see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. we're live in ferguson, missouri where we expect to hear from michael brown's family at any moment. this is the first time they've spoken publicly since a grand jury declined to indict police officer darrell wilson in the shooting death of their son. here with us today -- hashtag one lucky guy, former senator from massachusetts, scott brown and we welcome him back to the fox news family as a contributor but we remind the senator that da