spree. >> but 1,000 did attend a concert in devlin's honor last night. >> and a lot of people on facebook, he finally was trending on facebook. >> as he should be. if you're enraged about one, you should be enrages by the other. i'm kimberly, along with bob, eric, dana and greg. this is "the five." hewe hope you all had a nic thanksgiving weekend. and today in washington, president obama held three meetings in the wake of the unrest in ferguson. he met with his own cabinet and civil rights leaders and they called for bigger spending to better equip police. one person in attendance in the white house today, reverend al sharpton who was pretty fired up over the weekend. >> we lost the round, but the

fight ain't over. and you don't judge the fight on one round, even if we get knocked down, we get up and go to the corner and come out fighting to the next round. you won the first round, mr. prosecutor. but don't cut your gloves off. because the fight's not over. justice will come to ferguson. >> charles barkley has a very different take on the ferguson decision, he's standing up for the cop and is lashing out against some of the protesters. >> them [ bleep ] who are looting, those aren't real black people, those are scum bags. we have to be really careful with the cops, man, because if it wasn't for the cops, we would be living in the wild, wild west in our neighborhoods, we can't pick out certain incidents that don't go our way and act like the cops are all bad. you know how bad some of these

neighborhoods would be if it wasn't for the cops? >> i like what he's saying, i think it's important. you have to have the courage to have a voice to come forward to tell the truth. especially because he knows about these communities, if you've had experience in amer a america. >> he speaks his mind and he's coming from right here and he means it. can i go back to the reverend al sharpton. talk about a flames thrower, there were 70 witnesses and hours of testimony, and al sharpton is still staying that justice wasn't served in ferguson. he's inciting more racial tension. the weekend started well for president obama, he took $263 million for law enforcement officers to get body cameras for up to 50,000 officers. great idea. fantastic, that was obama's morning.

then he had lunch with sharpton. the guy who adds 40 million for the taxpayers, and then meets with a guy who does nothing to -- maybe he wants more attention, or there's some ulterior motive here. stay away from that guy. >> why does president obama continue to give audience to al sharpton? >> it's like the good cop, bad cop of race relations, the president tries to be the sophisticated, the calm, articulate voice to unite america, and he lets sharpton do all the other stuff. if i wanted to take the fight against obesity, partnering with crisco. it makes no sense. partnering with a man who spent the most decades creating

division and pain and suffering, he has yet to face justice for freddie's fashion mart or tuwanna brawly. it does call what you're doing, your legitimate actions into question. which is a shame, because i think president obama's extremely sincere about what he wants and i think so far he's been doing a pretty good job of it. i think -- there is a reason -- that's his bad cop. every good cop has a bad cop. >> from the white house communications perspective, how i tend to look at this, is it muddies his story line. president obama all the things he might say or do and the symbolism of having these meetings get clouded by continually having al sharpton at the white house. i understand that sharpton speaks to a certain part of the public, but when that becomes your whole story, if the people you're surrounded with become

the message and the president's voice is basically diminished because the president is at the white house, that's something i would rethink if i were in the house. it is a fair point, bob. >> the problem is that sharpton was outside the gates screaming at him. i want to say one thing about charles barkley, he has not seen a poor neighborhood in 20 years. >> you don't like his politics, that's your problem. >> you say he knows something about poor neighborhoods. this guy hasn't seen a poor neighborhood in -- >> has al sharpton? >> barkley is not a republican. >> he said he was going to run for the republican nomination. >> he's all over the place politically, which is why you've got to trust him. there's no ideology whatsoever in barkley. >> i think his message was very good, i just think that other people besides barkley should

say it. >> who else would it be? >> why did you mention charles barkley's commentary? don't you have a question of where charles barkley came from? do you question his blackness? >> he makes a good point, reverend al sharpton has -- i'm shush he lives in the upper west side in a very nice apartment over there. >> i'm not worried about-i said back then, he would make life impossible. dan made a good point, let him make life impossible. there's something about charles barkley, every time i see him talking black, it bothers me. >> he has never been on one side, he moves from one side to the other, which is why i trust him. but president obama, he should go to ferguson. and when he goes, he should

visit every single damaged business to show his allegiance to the community, not to the activists, not the ideologues. he's got to go to the communities. >> would you give him a pass to go or jump out and said it's politics? >> from day one, after the verdict, after the decision not to indict officer wilson, i said president obama and eric holder should come out and stay this is the justice system, we should accept it and move on. i think ferguson would be a lot calmer if he did. and if he did it from ferguson, great. >> but the risk is what if you go and the violence is exacerbated. i do think the white house is in a tough spot because they have made bad decisions where to go and where not to go. for example on benghazi, he went to las vegas, and that's what followed him. the statement about the beheading in august, the

golfing, they have made some bad communication decisions, they don't want to run around -- but if he doesn't go and the violence is exacerbated, in that the scenario, he's also in trouble. >> i think he should zpa out of ferguson, i don't think it's a good idea. there's a lot of unrest there and tempers are flying. if you want to make a statement, you need to do it elsewhere. you don't meet to go into that environment. >> if you go into hurricane sandy, where there's people suffering and the victims, you know, there are victims that own buildings, there are two dozen offices and buildings that have been either destroyed or seriously hurt. he s should go and -- >> i like greg's idea about this, i think he should underscore the cost of the businesses who are minorities. it does make a statement. i like the idea. >> what's he going to say? if he goes to ferguson, what's

he going to verbalize? is he has to say we stand by the grand jury's decision, does he not. >> sure. >> another -- he's a lawyer, he should say that. >> another consideration the white house might have in mind is how much it takes from a local police, the state and local police north to support a presidential visit because of the protection that he needs. if you take those officers dealing with the situation and have him protected, instead, then you run the risk of causing even more problems. >> good point because that is the import, that's what's going to happen, if they go there, then they're going to take the officers off. they could use social media a little bit more. i mean people in this protest are communicating through their cell phones on twitter, facebook and instagram. i think that the president actually could utilize that. >> i think if the president used social media on events like this, we would be making fun of

him for using social media. >> i would. let's talk about the bigger issue, it's race relations in america. the question is, is ferguson an example and basically just sort of the focal point of a discussion in this country that we are not as far along as you would like to think, in terms of race relations and there's some the commentary coming out of it from harvard law school, take a listen to the reaction. >> i think about what my father and grand father told me about ration relations way back when i was a young kid. and it's worse now, when you think of people who don't have jobs, who can't go to school, who can't get health care, we are in a situation right now that will create ferguson over and over and over again. it's not just in ferguson, missouri, it's going to be around the country. >> i don't think he's correct. i think there's a heightened focus on his incidents for a number of factors, one, we have lowered crime rates, combined

with an insatiable news cycle that makes these isolated incidents more ease city for the media to focus on, because there aren't as many of them. meanwhile you have the nature of other crimes, like gang crimes, which is boring by comparison. you can't focus on anything with gang crime, but here you have a teen victim and a police officer, you combine that with what i call a race aquarium, they don't even know they're seeing everything through race. that never ends. the combination of the in fact positive, a lower crime rate across the country, with a news cycle that has to fill the bucket, you put those together, that's what you v. >> if you add to that, the civil rights leaders from the 60s who are trading on former glorys and trying to make this case their new cause celebs. ogle tree might be right in terms of talking about the

symptoms, but nobody is allowed to talk about why are things like that? because if you do talk about two parents families, school choice, even tax reform. economic growth, threaten the risk of being called a racist, based on those types of comments basically makes people shrink and not come to the table with solutions. >> it actually does more harm than good is what you're saying, isn't this more about jobs and opportunity? >> he makes a very good point, there's where the discontent is happening within the black community, because unemployment rates are so high, the opportunity may be a little bit more difficult for african-americans in certain communities, but why are they taking it out on law enforcement. they have made that issue and pointed the finger at law enforcement saying here's the big problem in america, it's law enforcement, treating african-americans differently than they do white americans. and therein lies part of the

problem. you want to fix these things, fix the problem with jobs in the african-american community, and president obama, this is not trashing obama on the economy, but the reality is the -- unemployment among blacks has not gotten any better. >> focus on jobs for young african-american men. hey, apply, they're hiring. >> you don't want to fight this current situation with what was a righteous sfrugal. the civil rights movement was a righteous struggle for righteous people. as a matter of fact when i hear it, the people who were in the civil rights movement, these were people that went down and got beat up, went across bridges when al sharpton was barely a gleam in his father's eye. there was a subtle under the

surface sense among some people in the white house community, not the police, but in the white community that makes it uncomfortable to be black. you talk about some of the symptoms of it. if you're a republican, you're in a hell of a spot. we're going to have to have that conversation at some point and it's going to get to the heart of families. >> there is a lie going on ntha we don't have this conversation, if you took the topic of race out of the equation, they would have to have the lockup 24/7. >> i think we'll leave it right there. next on "the five" a protesters who are stopping others from getting to work. stay with us. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it.

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expectations, there are protesters expectations of police and a nation's expectations of its citizens. on a sunday show, these two p perspectives butt heads. >> the real epidemic is not police violence against black men, the real epidemic is young black men killing other black men, the homicide being committed against black men, predominantly against black men. seven black men are killed every day in this country. >> our community still being gunned down by the police. >> the black liberal explains that the police's actions are worse because u you expect more from the police to protect and serve. the black conservative however says police action would rarely be an issue if bad behavior didn't require it.

the better you act, the les you see of the police. again, it's about expectations from both sides about the other. you can blame the cops, but you must also blame yourself, the solution is to admit that we can all do better. then you can tell the truly annoying jerks where to go. listen, not to the activist, but to the working man who cares for his family, who doesn't change conflict because it makes him feel special. like tyree landrieu, he spoke truth to their power loudly. >> [ bleep ]. >> i got to go ros right now. i got six kids to feed. >> no wonder those activists look kind of scared, reality just hit them square in the face.

does it encourage dialogue, kimberly when you block, say, hospital workers or guys trying to get to work, to pay for their kids dinner? does it actually help p your cause? >> i don't think it helps your cause at all. it in fact shows that you're the problem, that you don't get it, that you want to stir up trouble, you're not even caring whatsoever about the community in ferguson, or about families that are frying to pay bills and put food on the table. this guy spoke the truth, but they didn't handle the truth. they don't want to deal with it. it's an inconveniently truth. if u you're upset because you don't have a job get one. if you're upset because the -- i'm so tired of the people that just want to point blame and make it everybody else's problem and that's where this guy is coming from. >> yeah, bob, there is a belief

that a protest, if a protest doesn't create discomfort or kicks people off, then it fails. like this is the only way to get any action done is to upset the public. >> when i was protesting the war in vietnam, i laid down in the road and the guy ran over me. >> how did his car fare? >> not very well. but there is a legitimate form of protester. but what these people don't want to see is ferguson go off the dialogue. what you don't do is block highways for people trying to get a legitimate job. the worst part of it from my stand point thinking about ferguson, this kind of video is exactly the wrong thing to have if you want to have a discussion about what went on in ferguson. >> guess what? they should be arrested. get out of the way, they're creating a public safety issue, they're impeding traffic and they got to go, beat it. >> and they create incidents like this, that's not the man's

fault. eric, i think they were hauled off but they weren't arrested. >> that's what they want to do, that's what terrorists want to do, they want to disrupt your way of life. that's what protesters want to do, disrupt your way of life. >> not all protesters. >> but that's what happens, there's collateral damage, like this guy with six kids trying to get to work, at risk of losing hiss job, that's collateral damage to these idiots like sharpton and the new black panther party. these protests are happening across the country, not just ferguson. there's one in l.a., there's one in philadelphia, there's one in washington. >> all over the place. so people who are legitimately trying to get to their jobs are being held back, at the risk of being fired for what? we get the point, ferguson is there, we understand it, they're going to fix things and greg is right, you want to really fix

ferguson? get more black cops. more black men and women apply for those jobs. >> then you have men and women from outside of ferguson, going there and what was it a new york college communist group? come on. >> i know there's people that defend the rioting, but none of their businesses get torched because they're bloggers, they have nothing to get torched. >> looking at tyree, they actually care. i think they would have tried to stay to him, but we want to help you, that is why we are are out here protesting. but what tyree lays bare is economic anxiety of so many americans, it's not just black . and it's that people that we seem to be papering over. there's so many big things going on in the country. but that economic an anxiety of making sure that your kids have enough to eat and the chance to go to school and the chance for him to make a better life.

if they want to do something big at the white house, bring people like him, to fall on the president's very good program, my brother's keeper. you don't hear about it, but i'm sure they're doing wonderful things. >> did you actually equate these people with isis terrorists? >> they're being disruptive, you want another fantastic african-american real true leader, there's a sheriff in baltimore, i think, his last name is clarke. listen to him, google him. this guy is amazing. really, he calls the shot, he points out what's really going on in ferguson. that's the type of voice we really need. >> up next, a warning from the fbi to our troops about an isis threat against them here at home. [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking. feet...tiptoeing. better things than the pain, stiffness, and joint damage of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. before you and your rheumatologist decide on a biologic, ask if xeljanz is right for you.

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homeland security have issued a joint bulletin warning our military members about possible attacks against them here at home. it advises our troops to review their online social media accounts for something that would make them a target. all of this comes as two of the agencies charged with protecting americans are about to undergo leadership transition lgs. bob, that could also include if they decide that jay johnson, secretary of homeland security security would have the three major johns responses for respe americans. >> those are the three cabinet level positions that the congress probably would not turn their back on. i could see them playing around with agriculture, but this is serious stuff. it is ---i don't remember a

time, ten years ago, but do you remember a time with this many people, of cabinet level? >> i think it is unusual. on this point, greg, let me ask you about the tactics, because it's a similar war, it's the war on terror, it's a war of ideology, but this is not necessarily the jv rag tag team, this is a new tactic in order to attack our troops here at home, based on our first amendment rights of true expression. >> why ask this risk elevated? because british jihadists are returning from fighting with isis. so how in the hell are they returning? once they left, shouldn't they have been followed and evaporateded? i don't understand how they can still come back, also their western converts. >> exactly, then you have the fact that they're western converts, they're female, they white, they're blond haired, blue eyed, they're dana parino.

u. >> there is a military overwhelming response and for the shock and awe to deal. what about the fight against ideology? i just don't see it? if it's not the messenger, if it's not us, who is it going to be? >> maybe it's time for the muslim community to step up and say, to condemn what's going on, the terrorism and the isis threats and say all muslims aren't isis, isis doesn't represent all muslims. and epidemic within the whole muslim community, maybe it is something like pope francis. i think we need to talk a little bit about the five airplanes that they discovered there was some intel, elevated intel that they wanted attack five -- >> why do they call it

spectacular? >> i think it's spectacular. >> i think what he did was very, very good on this? >> kimberly, i find this curious, why this isn't leading the news, i understand ferguson is an issue, an important one, but we have threats against our military from known terrorists. >> this should have been the lead. maybe we should have made this the a-block. i'm serious, because this is something we should take seriously, it's very important, the situation is not getting better, it's pretty specific and they have credible threats, for them actually to go on the record like this, i'm worried for our military families and our veterans. and i hope they take heed, they're not invincible, take it very seriously. >> there might be a little bit of progress with an apparent agreement to work with, turkey, that might be something. >> we have got to do better against isis. >> i agree. ahead on the five, do not try this on your next safari.

a man who dares to cuddle with the king of the jungle, the lion whisperer coming up on the fastest seven.

welcome back. time for -- the fastest 7 minutes on television. three stirring stories, seven swift minutes. first up, did you catch what the st. louis rams put up yesterday. five players stopped, held up what has become the -- immediately provoked a response from the law enforcement when an association police officer demanded an apology from the

land. free speech or did they go too far? >> nonverbal, but an interesting legal point. this has been disproved with the evidence that came out in the grand jury. i have an issue with this, because i really think they have to be careful not to endanger people, not to provoke an already fragile situation in ferguson. if you want to help ferguson, why would you do this? it's not helping the police department, or the residents of ferguson. >> law enforcement is pretty ticked off got that. >> these guys got a right to say it and do it. i was actually belittling them, but in 1968 when two blacks held their hands up in solidarity like this. >> the nhl dfl did they say're going to discipline the rams or the players for this display.

>> i think the police department has a right to be frustrated. these five guys get to have a great living. the police have to go out there and try to calm the situation that is based on a myth. it's actually prettier responsible. i did not like the police department's little press statement. they said somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. if you're going to put out a serious statement, just be serious. >> not only that, greg, that was the st. louis rams, the st. louis police department got ticked off. but if that's a metaphor for police brutality to african-americans, aren't all cops thrown under the bus with that. >> it just reflects the idea that symbolism -- probably the most interesting fact that gets glossed over, people keep talking about how 93% of blacks are killed by blacks. but 85% of whites are killed by whites. but the most interesting statistic is from 2005 in which

almost 8,000 blacks were killed. 8,000 whites, homicide victims, but blacks are 12.6% of the population. so you can throw out all the other black on white crime. what you can look at is 12.6% of the population has the same amount of homicide as 72% of the population. >> check out this dude, he loves the big cats, he loves them back in multiples. >> you had a long day today, hey? it's been who rim. you're very heavy, my boy, can you get off me? >> you don't get nervous when she's licking your face like that? >> you got to have trust that she's not going to do that.

it's an amazing thing to suddenly be able to turn your back on a full grown lion and not worry that he's going to come and grab you in the back of the neck. >> that was kevin richardson, a self-taught animal whisperer. >> they have this mistaken belief that animals have human qualities, they don't. i also dislike adding whisperer to the etched of something. a dog whisperer, a cat whisperer. >> a unicorn. >> don't even bring that up. >> you know what make this is work for him? it's all about british accecena. >> >> imagine that some of you get that close to a big cat like

that. >> it reminds me of the last big date. >> i told you to stop trolling the zoo. >> okay, you're right. >> final thought on this? >> speaking of dates, that would be a really bad idea to go to david this guy. what would excite him after all that. >> all right, finally, local tv often provides us with some whacky moments, and this report from our affiliate in michigan is no exception. take a look at some very enthusiastic football players before their high school championship game. >> we're ready to go out there and hit them. every play, right now, baby. do you know we can? >> he hasn't slept in probably seven p days. >> if you're not nervous, you're not ready. these kids are ready. >> i think i got my swagger back. >> we have been on the line. we are the best team to ever play on this field. >> i always love local news, i

grew up in denver which has some of the very best, i don't know how it is now. i think it's very good. you get a real sense of the community and the people that work for local news are usually the most trusted people in any city or town that you go to in america. >> i thought it was us. >> besides us. >> greg. spent a lot of times in locker rooms like that until i was asked to leave. you got to watch this whole video because it is absolutely perfect. it's almost like a perfect piece of art. it's actually very uplifting. it's a nice pallid cleanser we have had in two weeks. >> football players. >> you know what? go to hell. >> okay my gosh, you're so mean, take it back. apologize to dana. >> i take it back. >> dana, he's sorry.

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>> the life of former baltimore raven ray rice--after video surfaced of her elevator knockout. an arbitrator just ruled that right can return to the nfl. but can the team sign him? >> at the end of the day, he's a football player and that's what they should really be focused on because he's proven himself as a football player for seven years. there's never been a question of what he can do on the field. >> you think an owner or the fans can get that image of that elevator tape out of their minds? >> with time, we know it's going to take some work. >> she also claims that nfl commissioner roj -- >> a starkly different sequence of events, is the commissioner

lying? >> i can't say it's not the truth. i know for a truth that ray told the honest truth. >> you know, eric, i'm going to ask you this question, but one thing i have to pause here about, this woman will lose a whole lot of money if he's not playing football, right? >> yes, yeah, well, seasonably, i don't know if she has a prenup or what. but she said there's no question of what ray rice can do on the field. there is a lot of question of what ray rice can do on the field. as far as that's concerned, i can't imagine a team picking him up, he's not that good, and the stigma of picking up ray rice after this whole mess, can't be good for their fan base. why would the judge do this, why would the judge reinstate ray rice after the nfl said he's on indefinite suspension, it makes absolutely no sense. >> it's sort of like i heard

that statement, it's like double jeopardy, you gave him a suspension and then you came back and gave him another one on top of it. >> you actually sprained it well, it doesn't seem to make sense that she would go ahead and do it. the reason that she came up with, i find it curious and a little bit of suspect. we're not inside their family. i see a lot of women in the domestic violence, there's physical, psych lodge come and emotional abuse, we don't know what preceded this situation. what i do hope is an incident like that doesn't just come out of the blue. there's some issues there, i hope he's getting help and countiseling and jenae as well. >> i found her very sincere, i didn't think that had anything to do with the financial desire on her behalf. i think that it was very genuine, and i believed her. >> greg, do you care about this?

>> i'm finding myself less and les interest in the this story. the victim married him, so that has always been kind of like a problem for me. what about her family, what about her mom and dad. i don't get how a dad can be okay with this. when she said he's a football player, it's almost like that trumps all behavior. >> what about those who are being abused by their spouse, saying, really? you're going to defend the guy? >> you would be amazed, domestic abuse shelters, there's one in baltimore that i have been to, they get abused and they go back. >> one more thing is up next.

>> it's time now for one more thing with dana parino. >> i thought i would really make bob happy with three pictures of my weekend in south carolina. isn't that gorgeous? and you know who the next one is? >> whose boat is that? >> we have three pictures. look at this, this is an amazing picture. jasper's reflection is in the ornament. and i didn't even know it was there until after i had already taken the picture. the last win is jasper, with

louise, she is my neighbor's grandchild and beautiful. >> not as beautiful as jasper. that baby is homely compared to the dog. >> could babies be more beautiful than jasper? >> that's why i like babies more than you do, dana. this is a weird show. >> bob? >> that was sweet, telling this dog's story. honestly, it's just going crazy. i'm going nuts at the end of the year. can we stop, please? >> please, my legs, you're bluzing the table. >> at the airport on sunday, they had a line for security that was 1-point-some-odd miles long at midway airport, it took 25 minutes to get to the front of the line. and the airport security says sometimes things like this happen. >> how about another line or two.

>> that is my version of hell right there. >> it's time for, i haven't done this in a while -- i hate these people. >> you're wearing the same outfit. look at my unicorn mug. good camera angle, champ. there you go. i have the do it this way. what are you trying to do? these people are -- >> what's wrong with the unicorn. >> there's no horns, somebody broke it off and didn't tell me. have the zbut us to come forward, and maybe, maybe i'll forgive you, but for right know, i'm going to hunt you down and kill you. >> i think your dog did it. >> i have a couple of pictures from the weekend, the family, adrian and i went to las vegas, we served a thanksgiving meal at the las vegas rescue mission. they served 400,000 meals a year from that place, no taxpayer

money, all privately-funded. the food was amazing. and a lot of the restaurants in the hotels in the area donate the food. then he had a couple of minutes the next day, look what he did. 108 floors up, watch this video. >> no, no, no. that's his son. >> eric chase, the stratosphers, really, really cool stuff. >> you di't get child abuse for that? okay, the show's going off the rails, but talk about off the rails, maybe the rails were safer than flying this weekend, after the bomb threat at oklahomat -- an illegal flight situation, for two hours on the far mack, he

put a glove on his head and said i love the five. so y "special report" is next. authorized funding for the federal government runs out in ten days. how will both parties month forward in the wake of the president's immigration moves. this is special report. good evening, i'm bret baier, a congress reviled by the public as fractured and do nothing, will try to come together to get a lot of things done before the clock runs out in less than two weeks. and the dissension on capitol hill is amplified by president obama's go it alone action on immigration, the environment and other issues. we begin tonight with chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on capitol hill. >> reporter: with the