jon: fascinating story about the discovery of richard iii's remains. heather: that has implications for the royal family today. see you back here in an hour. jon: "outnumbered" starts now. ♪ >> this is "outnumbered." i'm andrea tantaros. here with us, maris faulkner, sandra smith, host of "the independents" on sister network, fox business, kennedy, and #oneluckyguy, he played twelve season with them, the legendary quarterback, joe theismann. we remind joe, you're outnumbered today. >> i don't want anybody telling me to break a leg. you can say break the other one but no break a leg. >> all caught on video. tough still for everybody to watch that, joe. but great to have you here.

>> almost 30 years ago. >> unbelievable. >> how did it heal? do you feel the repercussions of that today. >> yeah, i do as a matter of fact. residual effect the of knee, hip, back, all affected by it. i'm very lucky. guys that have much more complicated situations when it comes to complications when you go to broken leg when you expose to dirt and fear for infection. >> you reach out to the players especially in college. >> i try to very much. i feel for these nice. the physical therapists will take care of them. they will get them okay. there is the mental part not being able to be quite what you were in thinking that you can be what you were. that's what i want to help them through. >> you look great. we have a number of topics we can't wait for you to weigh in on, concussions, redskins, the name change. let's get right to it. >> okay. >> we begin with gruber? gruber who? add kathleen sebelius to growing list of administration officials distancing themselves from obamacare architect jonathan

gruber. sebelius who was the making first remarks since gruber came under fire saying stupidity of the american voter helped get obamacare passed. sebelius, calling gruber's remarks ludicrous. she never met with the mit economist. to she concedes he could have been seated in a room with a bunch of people, sebelius disputes any motion that gruber is the architect of obamacare. listen. >> dr. gruber i think could be regard the as the architect of romneycare but he was a consultant, one of many on the issues around how to frame the subsidies. he was not an author of the bill itself. he didn't influence the members of congress who actually wrote the legislation. and i think that, you know, he is making some headlines which is unfortunate. >> sebelius's remarks come as gruber is once again making headlines over comments he made

in 2012 when he described what it would take to kill off obamacare. he said if republicans went on to win the white house that year, that they could simply ignore the law's implementation. listen. >> you don't need active repeal. you just need ignoring the law and let it wither on the vine. that may be enough. that is the real threat. that is the major threat i think, the law faces. >> another gruber tape. joe, before we get into whether or not we believe kathleen sebelius if she knew him, what do you they have gruber's remarks and how he said they relied on the stupidity of the american voter to get this law passed. >> i think the choice of his words probably has incited, you know, made a lot of people angry incite ad lot of anger, when you call americans stupid, nobody likes that, no matter which side of the fence you sit on. if he couched it a little bit different. if he presented it a little bit different, american people were ignorant what was there, nobody

read it, nobody understood it anyway. i would say i think he really knows what he is talking about. he was part of it. whether he was in the room or not, even though she didn't meet him he was still in the room which meant he was there. so you have to take to a degree the credibility of what he is saying there has to be some credence to it. there has to be something there makes sense for him to make these kind of statements at this point. we know problems that existed with obamacare. >> yeah, that's right. sandra, he was paid almost $4 million when you crunch the numbers. >> by the federal government. >> if you're kathleen sebelius claim not to know him, should your response be, i'm outraged that nobody knows was paid four million bucks! >> the facts spell this all out. in 2009, one month after president obama took office, the department of, her department, hhs, put out a sole-source solicitation titled, technical assistance in evaluating options for health reform. that contract, andrea, was with gruber, okay? in that contract, they

specifically said he was the only person, and i quote, reasonably available, satisfying agency requirements. andrea, there is no disputing this. for sebelius to say she doesn't know who he is, after her agency paid him nearly $400,000 just on obamacare alone and nearly $4 million since the year 2000? somebody should be asking some questions. >> harris, i thought of you when i watched interview. >> really. >> you do tough interviews and ask fair questions, do research. there was no follow-up when sebelius said. that i thought, harris faulkner would never let sebelius get away with out follow-up and presenting facts sand draw just did. >> thank you for that. i think it requires that she 6 we suspend our memories. wants us to go on worldwide forgetful tour all the democrats singing this map's praises for years, including harry reid, nancy pelosi, max baucus out of montana. they have all said glowing things about him but i am sitting perched, ready for next

tuesday, december 9th, when gruber goes before that house oversight committee hearing. that is all what we've really been waiting for. we know he likes to say things like the american people are too stupid to understand obamacare. writing bill lacked transparency that is huge political advantage. he claimed passing the law was very clever, exploitation of the american voter, and he said president obama was in the room when discussing the law. they all know this guy. they know his value. >> so bombs could be going off next tuesday, because, kennedy my sense, jonathan gruber is very arrogant. you watch videos. if i'm sitting in in the white house i don't think gruber will go down without a fight. what he says under oath is telling but implicate all the people who not to know him. >> he is already profited off it. he is not trying to protect himself politically. he is obviously arrogant person who knows his work is done. he created model. he profited off several states and federal government to the tune of millions of dollars.

if this guy didn't know anyone and made this much money, the people who were actually the architects, how did they profit? did they just take wheelbarrows of rosland capital gold to their houses? >> real quick what is scary about that, you always think about who is the smartest person in the room when hearing on december 9th shows up. we know who the smartest guy in the room how will you ask questions to the smartest person in the room. he has no agenda. >> i bet throws the administration under the bus in a big way. >> who knew jonathan gruber is bipartisan. now he sees helping republicans what he is telling us about how to take it apart. so there is more. stay tuned, december 9th, 9:30 a.m. eastern for that oversight hearing. >> gruber, i don't even know her. thanks, kathleen. >> just a few hours from now. speaking of meetings and hearings all that kind of stuff, a major meet something set to take place at the white house, one which could set the tone for

the next two years. president obama is expected to sit down with incoming senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. first one-on-one since republicans took control of the senate. on the agenda, new spending bill to replace the one that expires next week. some republicans said they want to use that bill to fight the president's executive action on immigration, but house speaker john boehner is already indicating he is not willing to risk another government shutdown. let's start there. let's start with where we are with boehner because i'm really curious. some people think he is capitulated by backing off and taking the shutdown off the table. what are your thoughts? >> i think what he is basically saying to the american people, he is talking to the american people, not to any administrator or any branch of government, to the american people, we don't want to shut doesn't government. we understand the government's vital nature is to stay alive and be able to take care of you. that's what we want to do. as far as the republicans that don't agree with him on it, i think he is placing his priorities in the right place right now. the fact that mitch mcconnell

and the president are going to sit downs, i think that is monumental in itself. do we expect anything to come out of it with contentious nature that existed between the white house and everybody on the republican side? i don't necessarily see anything coming out of it. >> president and leader mcconnell, they actively dislike each other. >> that's what i want to talk about just in terms of some of the rhetoric that has bonn just since november 4th. executive action, executive action, if you do that you will really implode the relationship we're working on. you have two men sending out barbs in the media. frosty or warm and tender in this meeting? >> i think it will be very, very frosty. john boehner knows politically in the republicans threaten to shut down the government like they did last year akin to walking into a buzzsaw face first. it is right thing to do to try to get action because this is not constitutional on immigration. politically it is not that shrewd. boehner knows he has a large

majority in the house, historic majority. mcconnell knows he has senate chamber, they can do a lot of good with the majorities than with the government shut down. >> think of what the republican party has student to build on after the elections where they are -- has the opportunity. it is more important to lay the foundation for 2016. because if you set a limit and you say, okay, fine we're going to bankrupt the nation again, they will take that and just throw it in the face of the republicans, here you are again, hurting the american people. i think this is a very, very sensitive meeting. >> about this plan that boehner says that they haven't decided on yet but might be able to put forth is that it would defund portions of dhs, department of homeland security which would allow republicans to come to revisit issue. >> smart way of doing it. people are sick of stunts. executive action was stunt. shutting down the government is a stunt. people don't want to see that. they don't want to see gridlock anymore. they want to see people working.

that is a more shrewd plan that could hopefully serve the american people. >> we have a new mama on the couch, we know that sandra. why am i saying that? the supreme court is taking on a case that could off affect woman across the nation who want to keep working while they're pregnant. should they have to provide accomodations like they do for people with disabilities? >> joe theismann is here. one lawmaker's push to ban the name once and for all with public high schools across his state. meanwhile right after the show here on tv catch more from the couch on the web. join us for "outnumbered overtime," foxnews.com/outnumbered. click on overtime tab. it opens up shortly. go there or hit us up on twitter to chime in. >> asking joe questions.

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lifts because she was working for ups. had a note from a doctor. ups refused. she had to leave work. didn't return until two months after she gave birth. the supreme court is deciding whether the company's actions violate the fed pregnancy requirement act and it gave assignments to some workers hurt on the job or had a condition covered by the americans with disabilities act. of course, sandra, i'm going to go to you first because you are with child. you have a bun in the oven. i don't know if you know this but there is human who is going to sprout from your loins imminently. therefore you have more skin in this game than anyone i know. >> literally. >> i will be the first to say being pregnant is not a disability. >> thank you. >> she was not injured on the job, yes. while i will sympathize with her in that she went through a very difficult thing, lifting 70-pound packages when you're

pregnant is not on top of one's list, she should have known the rules of the company and the, those of the pregnancy discrimination act of 1978 did not include paying her to not do her job, which the requirements of her job were to lift packages up to 70 pounds. her doctor said nothing over 20 pounds. this will not be good for your pregnancy. ups did not respond while paying her off her leave and she is fighting that. so,-ups is just issued me a response of the i was on the phone with them moments ago. this was result of our union negotiated labor contract and was consistent with state law and federal law. joe, you and i were just talking. bottom line, ups is saying we followed the rules. >> they followed the rules and rules that the union negotiated. i think they could have handle it better, probably, if they made the move politically would have been better for them, perceptionwise would have been better for them. >> obviously. >> obviously. but the question is if you go by letter of the law, go by rules

laid out they really didn't err in that regard although if you look at it, what would have been the harm in just reassigning her. >> a big company like ups. they can handle it. they can take one worker and put her on lighter duty where she is still able to draw a salary and complete her pregnancy and still be employed. then they don't have, you know, a supreme court case for the rest of eternity which is going to force, if the supreme court rules in her favor, now businesses large and small, and as you point out, smaller businesses might not be able to afford to create a position that is low intensity or low impact. i do agree with you joe, i think ups could have handle it a little better. now they're saying in january they will offer pregnant women light duty. they could have done that. >> that was my question too. have they ever done this sort of thing in the past for groups of people who could not sue? what you listed with the americans disability act protected people and those injured on the job, those are two groups of people definitely

can sue the company if they don't do the right thing? have they done this with other pregnant women and didn't they feel threatened by a pushback? with the pushback it will force change which it already is. >> i don't see pregnancy as a medical condition or a condition. >> it's a medical condition. >> i mean it's not. >> it is not a disability. >> it is not like being in a coma or being infirmed and seattle they have special parking for pregnant women. you know what? walk the extra 20 feet. it is actually good for to you get circulation while you're pregnant. >> can't wait for you to open your emails. >> i'm not going there. >> joe is smart. >> very active pregnancies. i encourage women, of course with their doctor's supervision to be active. of course they are not, that's why you have to work with your employer without a federal mandate that could bankrupt other companies. it could be a new worry for parents when it comes to their sons playing football, or their daughters in some states. the disturbing findings of a

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♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered." it may be one of the first legal actions of its kind. a former high school quarterback behind a class-action lawsuit against the illinois high school association claiming the governing body is not doing enough to protect football players and calling on school officials to tighten their head injury protocols. this comes on the heels of a new wake forest study that looking

at young players and found head impacts can cause changes in the brain. even when there are no outward signs or stops of a concussion. i wish we had an nfl super bowl champ to ask about this. >> let me see if i can find one for you. [laughing] somewhere around. it is one of the first things and the lawsuit will change a lot of the way people looked at it but i think there has been a groundswell by parents when they think about their kids participating in sports. for example, pop warner football lost 10% of their enrollment over last year or two. parents are much more reluctant having kids do. that they point them to soccer. i ask parents, what do you get hit with a soccer ball? you hit with your head. what is the occurrence of concussions. what i think you ought to do, if you have your child participate, this is something that may need to be fund, there should be a baseline study done of every child participates in football. you have a baseline of the as the child moves on to high school, college, so on, you have

understanding what is happening inside of the brain a little more. you have a little scientific information to go on. i had the opportunity, to be a, consultant to a company called unequal. we make an inset that goes inside of the helmets to try to help protect against concussions. nothing is 100%. this is such a tragedy to see this young man die. >> you know i have read about you and now i can fact check with you in the couch, you never liked to wear the cross -- >> no, i wore a single bar. >> wasn't that more dangerous. >> it wasn't the face, although seven broken noses aploss of front teeth. >> you took fantastic. >> cosmetic surgery is amazing. i wore a single boar from visual standpoint to see easier to hand off. inside of the helmets, rawhide band around our heads and strings, running down, rubber stopper at top of my helmet. that was it. >> is it helmet technology or penalizing harder hits in pop warner and high school? what will protect these brains?

either you have to have something that insulates the head, or you have to have less trauma on the field. where do you go? >> it's a great question. i think it has to be combination of both. i encourage parents out there, research the technology that's available. take the time to look at the stud chase have been done, all the research that has been done, the difficult tests that have been run. he take time to look at. that is responsibility to our kids. i think at high school level, this is where we're seeing more issues. not necessarily younger level, they're so small. high school level maybe equipment isn't as good. antiquated, passed down from one class to another class, to another class. that probably needs to be upgraded. >> why isn't that happening? why aren't high schools, is it a cost issue? >> a lot of cases it is a cost issue. maybe you have fund-raisers, bake sales, whatever. whatever you do, whatever you need to do to raise money to make the game safer at that level. here's the thing, i would hate to see football abandoned

completely because it creates such a foundation to teach young men and now young women who participate what it is like to be part of a team. what it is like to win. what is it like to lose. taking authority and direction from someone other than your parents. teaches you to watch your diet. teaches you exercise. makes you mentally become sharper because you have to learn all these plays. >> joe, your buddy, terry bradshaw sat in that seat a couple months ago. >> yeah. >> he enjoyed it, by the way. he told us he does believe that he has lasting impacts of his years of football. >> i do too. >> obviously to your leg. took you out of the game. do you believe, he said he had memory loss. >> no question, i do. i have had multiple concussions. i know. that i've been knocked out. i was knocked out to a point in a game where i went out first three minutes of the game, woke up with two minutes of the half and thought it was next play. you do suffer that. when you play this game at our level as professionals there is

a risk. the nf-l has done i think a great job trying to protect their players. hopefully it will trickle down into youth football to a point where we have classes play 60. teach kids how to hit. teach kids how to tackle. teach kids how to protect themselves as well. it isn't just the person hitting you, if you're being hit how can you protect yourself in such a way. >> something we have to ask you about, joe theismann, the redskins name controversy, trickling down to public schools in california. one lawmaker there wants to end the use of the name for good by introducing the california racial mascots act. there are just four schools across the state still use the name but the assemblyman says it is time to phase out the derogatory term and show respect for native americans. of course this comes after months of national debate over the name of the nfl's redskins, washington redskins. so who better to ask about this than legendary redskins quarterback himself, joe theismann.

>> somebody on the set can talk about that. 12 years. >> only if you tell us what to say. >> the thing is i played for the washington redskins. i will always be a washington redskin. that will not change for me. i was very proud to wore the uniform. i was very proud to represent native americans in this country. i can tell you about personal experience, all i want to speak about, native americans i've spoken to not one come up to me like to see the name changed. when i played, i feel this way today, it honors native americans of this country. everybody has an opinion and they vary and differ. my feeling it will ultimately be decided by dan snyder. mr. snyder will make that decision. the political pressures coming on, it is a the past politics. i find it interesting that of the letter that was written, for example to roger goodell, i think 49 senators, they all happen to be democrats. now we have another liberal saying we ought to do this. i'm not, this is a fact. i'm not making this, this is just observation i made but i really feel it will be up to dan

and political pressure -- >> said adamantly. >> he has said no. >> you know dan snyder well enough to know if he would ever change his mind? how far does the needle have to move, do you think. >> i think it has to move within the native-american nation. i look at it this way. i don't know dan that well i could say he might do this or he might do that. wouldn't assume that but i do know that i think in every situation good comes out of. for example, with the name coming up, here we are discussing it right now, is we're finding out that on the reservations, the native americans, they need better schools, they need better playgrounds. there are things that they need to improve the quality of their life. this is has brought it to light. hopefully that is the positive. >> what about other teams like the atlanta braves, cleveland indians, notre dame fighting irish, these could all be -- where do you draw the line. >> where does it stop, that is the question that has to come up? where does it end regarding mascot names and mascot. >> your point dan snyder, contribute ad ton of money in

light of this to native americans. >> been criticized for night been criticized for it. you mentioned congress and turning to this partisan issue. joe, what do you think when congress sticks its those into football with a name change, probing through nfl locker rooms looking for prescription medicine. >> with their hands up in the air over different >> when football becomes politicized and we cover these stories every day here on "outnumbered." >> i feel some issues are some bigger than what is going on in sports and the world i played in that need to be addressed. the budget, for example. what we'll do on immigration. obamacare. all the things we talked about before. are all issues that the government, i would hope would spend time and focus on trying to fix the mass problems that exist outside of the world of athletics. we can fix the world of athletics. give us a chance to be able to do what we need to do without your intervention. >> by the way specifically regarding that since 1990 we were showing full screens while you were talking, at least 28

high schools across the country changed their nickname from redskins to something else. since 1990, six universities changed their name away from that. there is action. >> there is movement. >> college level. >> not because pool ticks dictated and awareness and somebody says we need to change. >> interesting with the trademark registration wiped away by the patent office, appealed by the office, when you wear your number 7 jersey, you had it in the super bowl, there investment in value. >> there is investment, harris, in that regard. if you take away the registration, registration patent office did, took away rights, that means anybody out there, it doesn't, you have taken away from dan snyder. >> there will be more of it. >> we can make our own. >> you can make your own. what have you really accomplished my question. >> devalue what is out there. >> government getting in the way. >> great to get your personal insight on that, joe.

showdown on capitol hill over defective airbags after auto partsmaker ignores a deadline to expand a recall nationwide. lawmakers want answer. >> a soap opera producer is now ambassador to hungary, a country that could soon align itself with russia's president vladmir putin. the questions about her experience or lack thereof. whether it is time to end such appointments once and for all. head to "outnumbered overtime," foxnews.com/outnumbered. joe theismann will sit with us. ask him questions, and what topic you liked on the couch today that you want to hear more about. twitter, facebook, jump on live chat, swirling around his former team.

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>> there is no us. you made that very clear. >> that was a clip from the soap opera, "the bold and the beautiful." the produce other of that show is now our ambassador, yes to hungary. the senate confirming colleen bradley bell to the position yesterday not without white house drama. how press secretary josh earnest handled being questioned on his qualification. >> where did the president get that confidence? in her confirmation she couldn't name a single strategic interest the united states had with hungary? >> she is certainly somebody has had her own distinguished private sector career. >> as a soap opera producer, right. >> somebody who obviously has succeeded in, you know in the business world. >> republican senator john mccain of arizona tried to put the brakes on her confirmation. >> i am not against political appointees. i'm not against, i understand how the game is played. but here we are, a nation that

is on the verge of ceding its sovereignty to a neofascist dictator, getting in bed with vladmir putin and we're going to send the producer of "the bold and the beautiful" as our ambassador. i urge my colleagues to put a stop this foolishness. >> can not make it up. now watch how democratic senator barbara boxer of california defended bell. >> classic. >> she is an intelligent woman. she knows how to be successful. she will do a good job and she will do very well i think in this position because i know her well and she knows how to make friend. >> oh. >> andrea, can she find hungary on a map. >> she couldn't. you would at least read about the country by the hearing, they asked her about hungary. she said no thanks, i've already had lunch. >> i'm half hungarian. >> look at that.

>> that is all i know. >> after loud calls and ebola in the united states, and it is encroaching problems, named an ebola response coordinator who is nor a doctor or anyone who is even familiar with ebola that we've since learned or knew before. >> ron claim knows how to make friends, that is really important when battling a deadly virus. we all know this. >> kennedy, it is, it is tough to write these different plot lines every single day. >> how dare you? how dare you sleep with my husband! oh! i love you. >> but i'm not her husband. >> wow, you're good. >> her twin brother who has been brought back to life. >> it is my brother. it is not me. you thought it was me but it wasn't. i swear. take back that hit. >> i can defend him on that. i saw it. i saw it all. i always do, somehow, even when it is not happening. >> behind the numbers, on

"outnumbered." >> we're making jokes about this. john mccain said look, strategically, hungary is very important country. in a region that vladmir putin is trying to take over and dominate. this is serious stuff. >> i just have one bit of advice for all of you, keep your day jobs. how dare you. >> how dare you. >> do it too. >> i still want to know your response to the u.s. ambassador to hungary being a soap opera star and you're hungarian. >> my grandmother was. i guess i still am half hungarian. i find it sort of typical of the appointees that we have seen through the administration. they're nice people. they're good people. they're wonderful people. >> they're rich people. >> but how qualified, good donors. but how qualified are they for the position? >> senator barbara boxer says, that she is intelligent and she knows how to make friend, kennedy. >> she knows how to be successful. >> will she be friends with

vlad? >> watch rest of that, see follow-up questions that come, spent x-amount of money, members about press corps really pressing in as the press corps should be and josh ernest is, but we like her. but we like her. >> you give a lot of money to political campaigns, you get appointments. >> that is the way it works. >> republicans do it too. you would at least think you prepare for that hearing sandra. >> google. >> know a little bit about hungary to be prepared to answer questions. she made a fool of herself. i think josh ernest made a fool of himself in front of the washington press corpse and. >> did not point out one qualification. >> the other question you have to ask, when did she find out she would receive the appointment. >> maybe 15 minutes before. >> the google machine is fast. >> being intelligent young lady you say, okay, i'm going to, three weeks from now, going to appoint you ambassador to hungary. >> right. >> why don't you spend a little time finding out what is going on in that the past world, the

relationship. >> i'm not saying it is not possible for a television actress to be -- sorry, producer. a likeable one. >> thank you. >> i'm not saying it is not possible but if she doesn't have the qualifications, she doesn't have the qualifications. >> we shall see. >> they think foreign policy is a bit of a joke. like sand through the hourglass and so are minutes on "outnumbered." after months of drought, california may be getting rain it needs, could be too fast and too much. residents like kennedy fear mudslides and flooding. we'll have a live report. think you could pass a u.s. civics exam. my schoolers in one state may soon have to if they want to graduate. we'll debate whether this should be a requirement for students nationwide. ♪

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to jon scott with what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon: thank you. president obama speaking at a business roundtable right now in washington of the president says his priorities are tax reform, immigration reform and infrastructure spending. the president also suggesting a gas tax increase might be a good thing.

speculation on hillary clinton's possible entry into the 2016 race is heating up. new report today suggests that the hillary team might be a bit worried about a few of the other democrats considering a run. we'll explain. plus california gets some much-needed rain and snow but it is too much too fast. that is leading to flooding and concerns about mudslides. rick reichmuth has the forecast and my personal favorite, the story about richard iii. being found buried under a parking lot in england. fascinating stuff. talk about. "happening now." >> we'll be watching, jon. well, do you think you could pass a u.s. civics exam? high school students in north dakota may soon have to or else they will not be able to graduate. it is similar to the test immigrants must pass to become a u.s. citizen. questions like, who wrote the declaration of independence? >> tom clancy. [laughter] >> kennedy, you know you know the real answer. >> okay. >> wasn't that the real answer?

>> joe, come on. what were the original 13 states. >> new york. >> delaware, connect you cut, new hampshire. >> we're killing harris. >> south carolina, north carolina. >> i'm here all week. who is one of your state's is senators right now. >> useless. [laughing] >> oh, god. >> backers say the goal is for students to learn more about how american government works. seven other states are considering similar bills on that list, utah, arizona, south carolina, missouri, oklahomawe're all kind of jokin, what do you think of this idea, seriously. >> i don't think it should be mandatory when it comes to graduation. should be part of the educational process. i studied government while in high school and part of the history we have in this country. i think they ought to commit to it. so many things are now in the world of cyberspace and technology and internet, that we forget about history and where this country came from. i think it is a good idea to find out about our founding

fathers but not necessarily make it mandatory to get a diploma. >> when you put it that way i can't imagine there wouldn't be onslaught of amen. there are people who don't agree with that, kennedy. >> i don't think this is necessary. what is this going to do? you have kids going to college who can't show up without their moms because they don't know how to do basic things like wash and fold clothes. expand home ec drastically and teach critical thinking. if they only taught home ec and philosophy in high school we would be essentially fine. >> not everyone is good at home ec. sometimes they sew pants inside out, don't pass the class. just saying, some people have trouble with a sewing machine, kennedy. >> what gave you that idea, joe? >> i do, i disagree respectfully on this one. i do think is a food idea. if schools want to make it mandatory, what would be downside of kids knowing history of founding fathers? >> knowing about balancing your checkbook? why can't you know it all?

>> why isn't a case of more is more? >> we covered part of it. >> a the past it, government or civics or polly sci class. >> we covered a story on this program where the average high school student or high school graduate doesn't even know how to read a paycheck. so there is like, definitely deficiencies and people are coming out of high school, not knowing basic things this is one of them. >> we have guys come into professional football after four years of college can't write a check. >> wow. do they know how to cash it? >> they know how to cash it. go direct deposit. we do have issues like that. >> some argument has been over whether you're making american citizens have to pass some sort of litmus test as you would immigrants and that somehow or another that enters the conversation. what is your thought on that, andrea? >> why shouldn't american students be required to know the history? i mean i can see why they do it for immigrants. i don't see why this is so controversial. if we don't know the history of our country, if we don't know what makes us great, what is

there to fight for? if we don't understand how we got here and freedoms we have. >> of course you but i think having a basic civics test will not do it. what we get into more centralized curriculum and common core. >> don't you think a civics test is better than some of the propaganda and nonsense shoving down our kids throats. >> i do not want to be emperor of the universe requiring everyone in north dakota or -- >> you know who wants you to be the emporess of the universe, tom clancy because you picked i am. what if your partner doesn't text you for an entire day would you freak out? a new study find that technology could be turning us into a bunch of clingy lovers. ♪

♪ ♪ >> all right. step away from the phone. modern technology is making us a nation of cleaning. constant contact one in six people are so needy, hello? dow still love me? >> i do. >> i love you so much and i miss you even though you sit next to

me. >> this is really awkward. >> your partner every hour of the day doesn'ts inially call you and yet we are reli apt on technology for the affirmation, joe, you shake your head? >> i broke my phone a couple of sundays ago. phone fell out of my hand and cracked it. i love my wife, robin andy love to hear from her, i had two days i didn't have a phone and not necessarily from your partner but in life in general to step away and not have to answer and respond was a nice respite. it was a nice opportunity to put technology on the side and put it on the shelf and step away without managing so many things. >> i know you are very active on twitter. i tweeted out that picture of us

wearing the shirt. and you find yourself tweeting and texting in general when your phone is not broken. >> texting is a easier way of communitying. and i say it to everybody out there. please do not text while driving. >> and you are too valuable as human beings, to the world, to be able to put yourself in that situation. >> it can wait. >> you can. >> and how different is texting and technology now like it was 15 years for dating? >> i was thinking about this. it is literally rounding relationship. is there si lepser do i text him? is he mad the at me and does he think i am mad at him? you have to be witty and responsive. >> he didn't write xo or lol or ha.

>> note to self. i sign off my e-mails and texting with a xo. >> pick up the phone and call me. >> we are staying out here for overtime. click on the overtime tab. >> we begin with a fox news alert. a popular automaker expanding the recall to all 50 states. honda giving in to pressure from federal regulators over a potentially deadly air bag defect. we are covering all of the news. >> iran is joining in the fight against isis. should we trust teheran as an ally against the terrorist? >> plus. >> she talked about how much she hated him. >> damaging testimony in a twisted murder for hiefr case. will the background of the man